Chicago Vs. New York....>America's Be... Log Out | Topics | Search
Moderators | Register | Edit Profile

Email This Page

  AddThis Social Bookmark Button

AALBC.com's Thumper's Corner Discussion Board » The Kool Room - Hosted by Kola Boof » Chicago Vs. New York....>America's Best City « Previous Next »

Author Message
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Anonymous
Unregistered guest

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Friday, January 27, 2006 - 11:14 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

News Article:

The argument erupted again the other day on the Internet: Chicago or New York? Which city is better?


New York has more culture, more energy and better restaurants, lovers of the Big Apple wrote on craigslist.org. Chicago is cleaner, nicer and has better architecture, its fans shot back.


Chicago magazine got into the debate in its February issue with a statistical comparison of the USA's largest cities: New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston and Philadelphia. The bottom line: Chicago has more per-capita murders, burglaries and bars than NYC, cheaper homes, higher property taxes and more golf courses.


"This isn't an exercise in trying to determine the best big city - a futile endeavor, given the vagaries of taste - or to bolster our hometown," the magazine said. "Besides, everyone knows which city can claim a 2005 World Series champion."


The feud began in 1890, when Chicago overtook Philadelphia as the second-largest U.S. city and earned the permanent and much-disputed "Second City" nickname.


King Cormack, 50, a media designer who has lived in both cities and is now in Chicago, prefers the Windy City. He gives New York the advantage when it comes to museums and opera, but wrote on craigslist that Chicago "exceeds NY on so many other quality-of-life issues that there's no contest."


Cormack says in an interview that a lot of New York's energy is generated by "the too many rats in the box theory." Chicagoans are more down to earth, he says, and the city's array of ethnic restaurants matches New York's. "Chicago suffers from the 'Second City' thing," he says. "But that's a legacy, that's not the truth anymore."


Deanna Witkowski, 33, a jazz musician who also has lived in both cities and now makes her home in Manhattan, disagrees. Chicago is more relaxed and manageable and feels smaller, she says. But when she's here, she misses New York's "fast-paced, high energy" and audiences open to "a lot of different kinds of music."


"I have to honestly say that New York is my preferred place to live," Witkowski says.


When it comes to raw numbers, the Chicago-NYC rivalry doesn't quite add up. New York has 8.1 million residents. Los Angeles, which surpassed Chicago to become the second-largest city in the 1990 Census, has 3.8 million. Chicago is third with 2.7 million, and Houston is fourth with 2 million.


New York has about 41 million visitors a year; Chicago has about 10 million fewer. Cristyne Nicholas, CEO and president of NYC & Company, the city's official tourism marketing organization, concedes that Chicago has an edge in the number of conventions it hosts. It's the country's No. 1 destination for business travelers, drawing 13 million in 2004.


"Chicago has a corner on the market when it comes to conventions," Nicholas says. That's because Chicago's McCormick Center, with 2 million square feet of space, surpasses the Javits Center's 815,000 square feet. "But more people want to come to New York," she adds.


Chicago is an increasingly popular destination for corporations and their employees, says Paul O'Connor, executive director of World Business Chicago, a non-profit group that works to attract businesses.


The trend began in 2001, when Boeing Co. moved its headquarters here from Seattle, he says, putting Chicago "on the list" when companies think about relocating.


"New York is New York, and there's no competing with it," O'Connor says. "But what you can get in Chicago that you cannot get in New York is continuous, high quality of life."


Simi Sernaker, 27, moved to Chicago two years ago after a decade in New York City. She's the lead singer for the rock band Suffrajett and admits she misses some things about New York, including bars open until 4 a.m. and all-night delis. She's not crazy about Chicago's all-day traffic jams. "But there's more space here," she says, "and people party harder here."


"There's a real vitality" to New York, Sernaker says, but it "can be so hard-core and feel so cold. I'm really liking Chicago right now."


Nicholas, head of New York's tourism group, agrees that the competition emanates mostly from the Central Time Zone.

"New York looks at Boston as our rival," she says. "We're always duking it out with our sports teams. And back in Colonial days, we probably duked it out for different tea manufacturers." As for Chicago's obsession with matching the Big Apple, she says, "We're flattered."

Francesco, 51, the one-named manager of the New Yorker Styling Salon on Chicago's west side, says the former owners told him to keep the name because it conveys sophistication. "They were from New York," he says.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Abm
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Abm

Post Number: 4061
Registered: 04-2004

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Friday, January 27, 2006 - 11:36 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Chicago is a great city.

It was founded by a Black man.

The foks there work hard. And play hard.

We love our hotdogs, deepdish pizza, our Bears, Oprah...

...and Michael Jordan.

I AM a Chicagoan.


But Chicago AIN'T NEW YORK CITY!
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Cynnique
Unregistered guest

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Saturday, January 28, 2006 - 12:09 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Chicagoans also love their WHITE SOX, their Italian Beef, their classic architecture, their step dancing, their techno "house" music, their Sears Tower and their Picasso-in-the-plaza. No, we are not New York City. We are a good ol midwestern metropolis.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Kola
Moderator
Username: Kola

Post Number: 2738
Registered: 02-2005

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Saturday, January 28, 2006 - 12:19 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Anonymous, this is a great thread! Thank you.

I went to Chicago in 2004 for my tour.

I was saddened by the run down "black" areas...but my friends Gaylon and Nikki took me for a long, long tour of Lakeshore Drive

AT NIGHT

----and THAT blew me away! I really loved it.

But coming from California, Los Angeles, Santa Barbara--

Chicago is like a conservative European city in comparison. It felt very....German.

The hotel there was "OK", but the Chinese food I ordered in was SPECTACULAR!! I've never had better.

I love New York City...mainly Long Island (Huntington, Syosset, Amityville) and Brooklyn. New York is very much like Washington D.C. (where I was raised)--but just more EPIC.

I love the New York Public Library (who actually ordered 60 copies of my books when they found out that local "black" bookstores wouldn't carry them)....

I hated living in London in the 1990's. London is too cold, too white (most the blacks there are niggers) and it's too PLAID.

I would say that the places I lived in Morocco are the most beautiful, awe inspiring places I've ever lived. And I liked Tel-Aviv, Israel A LOT.

There is no best place, though.
No center of the universe.

Anywhere.








Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Kola
Moderator
Username: Kola

Post Number: 2739
Registered: 02-2005

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Saturday, January 28, 2006 - 12:43 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I think people are "nicer" in Chicago than N.Y.

Blacks I met in Chicago were much nicer than either N.Y. or D.C.





Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Renata
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Renata

Post Number: 569
Registered: 08-2005

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Saturday, January 28, 2006 - 01:06 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I've visited Chicago, and I've never seen a cleaner city. The people weren't friendly at all, IMO. My husband has lived in New York, and says it's disgusting, and the people are terribly unnecessarily rude.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Ntfs_encryption
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Ntfs_encryption

Post Number: 152
Registered: 10-2005

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 04:40 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I've lived in both and I loved both. NYC is second to none. But Chicago is the bomb! Never a dual moment in either.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Serenasailor
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Serenasailor

Post Number: 166
Registered: 01-2006

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 04:35 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I think you guys forgot to mention Los Angeles. LOS ANGELES IS THE BOMB!
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Renata
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Renata

Post Number: 579
Registered: 08-2005

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 08:25 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Too hot, too expensive, too superficial, too many palm trees. But I hear Roscoe's House of Chicken and Waffles is the bomb! Have you ever eaten there?

I've never been there myself, though, this is just the impression I get. I should visit there someday to find out what it's really like.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Serenasailor
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Serenasailor

Post Number: 193
Registered: 01-2006

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 04:37 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Too hot, too expensive, too superficial, too many palm trees. But I hear Roscoe's House of Chicken and Waffles is the bomb! Have you ever eaten there?

I've never been there myself, though, this is just the impression I get. I should visit there someday to find out what it's really like

No it is never to hot here in SoCal the weather always stays at about 75%. And yes in eat at Roscoe's House of Chicken and Waffles all the time. It is very expensive to live here but then again so is New York City. It is also superficial but you must remember this is Hollywood. Also, so is New York City(the fashion capital of the world). And, what the hell is wrong Palm Trees?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Renata
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Renata

Post Number: 609
Registered: 08-2005

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 05:58 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LOL....nothing really. I'm just typing junk.

Do you mean 75 Degrees? If so, that's really good.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Ntfs_encryption
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Ntfs_encryption

Post Number: 162
Registered: 10-2005

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2006 - 12:55 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No. He meant 75%. And yes, the weather is incredible. I have had my front door open some days while people are walking around in shorts and T-shits and going to the beach while talking to friends on the phone back East who were being beat down by blizzards and sub zero temperatures. Palm trees are cool but I do miss the basic tress of the Mid West and East. Northern Cal is different. My best friend lives in Sacramento and next to Paris, it probably has the most trees! I love it! Completely different than Southern Cal.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

mony
Unregistered guest

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2006 - 08:51 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Toronto is the best city in North America. Oops wrong topic!
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Anonymous
 

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 04:56 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

poker casino poker 293

Add Your Message Here
Posting is currently disabled in this topic. Contact your discussion moderator for more information.

Topics | Last Day | Last Week | Tree View | Search | Help/Instructions | Program Credits Administration

Advertise | Chat | Books | Fun Stuff | About AALBC.com | Authors | Getting on the AALBC | Reviews | Writer's Resources | Events | Send us Feedback | Privacy Policy | Sign up for our Email Newsletter | Buy Any Book (advanced book search)

Copyright 1997-2008 AALBC.com - http://aalbc.com