Africa's TOP Movie Star! Log Out | Topics | Search
Moderators | Register | Edit Profile

Email This Page

  AddThis Social Bookmark Button

AALBC.com's Thumper's Corner Discussion Board » The Kool Room - Hosted by Kola Boof » Africa's TOP Movie Star! « Previous Next »

Author Message
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Kola
Moderator
Username: Kola

Post Number: 2642
Registered: 02-2005

Rating: 
Votes: 2 (Vote!)

Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 03:55 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It's been so long since I appeared in a film, that watching the success of Nigeria's Genevieve Nnaji actually makes me miss it.

G

GG

Of course, my experiences in Arabic films were nothing like hers today...

NIGERIA has created its own thriving movie industry...NOLLYWOOD...and is quickly dominating South Africa, Senegal, Ethiopia, Egypt and Cameroon for box-office dominance. For instance, in KENYA--the top 5 hit films last year were all made in NIGERIA!!!


Gen

Genevieve has now starred in over 35 films and was just recently in NEW YORK CITY to receive the African Film Award for TOP BOX OFFICE STAR. She is the first "female" to be the continent's #1 box office grosser. Her 6 films from last year earned $10 million for NOLLYWOOD.

Gen


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Kola
Moderator
Username: Kola

Post Number: 2644
Registered: 02-2005

Rating: 
Votes: 3 (Vote!)

Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 04:09 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Now for the absolute DOWNER.

As Genevieve strives to look like a "Black American" woman....

....another Nigerian actress, OMOTALA, strives to look like a White Woman.




It's very sad that this is engulfing Africa now.

Here is a photo of OMOTALA as her natural dark self in public:


Omotala

Here is the film "OMOTALA" who starred in 9 films last year and is part of the reason that young African girls want to bleach their skin.

Omo

Omotala1

I just despise this image so much and the fact that NO ONE...no one cares about African children being exposed to all this "artifical light" and fake hair. Even Genevieve and Oluchi, who strive to look like Black American women, are guilty of this. But I especially hate Omotala. She is no better than the women who circumcise innocent girls....for the MEN.

Here is OLUCHI arriving and looking stunning.

Oluchi

This is my new favorite model---Jamaica's beautiful NADINE WILLIS.

Nadine
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Renata
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Renata

Post Number: 313
Registered: 08-2005

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 04:54 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm so glad that you told me about the problems with colorism in Africa. I seriously was thinking about trying to get into African films (as an actress), because I wanted to do more "art" than "commercial" films. After reading your posts, I'd still be interested, but was thinking that I don't want to try to pass myself off as what authentic Africans should look like, and wondered if I should try to get into roles that may be considered "mixed". However, I'm NOT mixed and don't want to lie there, either. I'm kind of torn. I want to do African films, but don't want to make a lighter image "the face of Africa".

What would you recommend?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Kola
Moderator
Username: Kola

Post Number: 2646
Registered: 02-2005

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 05:18 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, Renata there's no way for you to do African films and not be considered "mixed". You'll always be cast as that, because the African "audiences" are so pure black. For instance, Genevieve Nnaji is considered "ligh skinned" by most Nigerians.

But at least you can knock Omotala out of her "impersonation" of mixed women. And look like a real one.

I hate most African films, because the women look NOTHING like African women. Unlike the white woman, the "majority" is never represented.

Senegal is the only country that truly captures Africa and the African women in their films.

Here are Senegal's two top movie actresses:



Fatou Ndiaye

F

Ft

Fatou movie






and my favorite...

the great actress, the Meryl Streep
of Africa...

Rokhaya Niang


R

Rok

ROKa

Rty

m






Yukio never seems to read these threads where
I talk about colorism in Africa.

Which I ALWAYS do.




Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Renata
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Renata

Post Number: 316
Registered: 08-2005

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 05:31 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Rokhaya Niang is beautiful. Was she a model once? She looks long and "limby" enough to have been one.

Well, another question: if I were to do African films, how SHOULD I be typecast, without harming the image of Africa, without harming Africans' image of themselves, yet without trying to whiten myself (as far as roles go)?

Keep in mind that I'm Lisa Bonet's skin color, but with big, fluffy (texturized nappy) hair that I would NEVER bleach.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Renata
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Renata

Post Number: 317
Registered: 08-2005

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 05:33 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Would I even make a believable American? Or would that, too, be a bad image as the majority of black Americans aren't really my color?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Kola
Moderator
Username: Kola

Post Number: 2647
Registered: 02-2005

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 05:45 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Renata, you can only represent what you are.

If you look like Lisa Bonet's color with puffy hair, then you automatically will symbolize mixed people. You have no control over that.

You can scream all day that you are just as black as Lauryn Hill and that you are repesentative of your Black ancestors's blackness...but the truth is you're not.

You can only represent what you have now become.

In Africa, the women will hate you because you are not their own reflection....and many of the men will worship you because you are the whiteness; the status symbol that they covet.

That's the painful truth, sister.





Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Kola
Moderator
Username: Kola

Post Number: 2648
Registered: 02-2005

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 05:48 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

What is racist and unfair, Renata...is when the majority of the black women in the society look like black women---but the majority of black women in the MEDIA, supposedly representing black women, are mixed and light looking. Then it becomes Supremacist Conditioning that is harmful to our people, because it sends the message that we shouldn't exist.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Eyona
Newbie Poster
Username: Eyona

Post Number: 3
Registered: 12-2005

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 05:57 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

i don't like OMOTALA EITHER I THINK SHE IS GOD DAMN FAKE!!!! looking at this woman she looks nothing european at all.............yet she bleach her skin and wears blond hair.... she has a very beautiful african features and don't seem to appreciate it. ......... this is a epidemic that has spread through africa.... especially west africa......... it is a shame when u go to nigeria and ghana and see all those women bleaching their skin...... to look white all because of those self hating african men!!OMOTALA has kids....... imagine the kind of message she is sending them...
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Renata
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Renata

Post Number: 319
Registered: 08-2005

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 05:59 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"In Africa, the women will hate you because you are not their own reflection....and many of the men will worship you because you are the whiteness; the status symbol that they covet."

That's what I'm afraid of. Thanks for your answers. So, if I ever try to act in an African movie, I'll make sure to not play an authentic African person (that's if I were to ever even be considered).

I must say that you do have a point: even if I think one thing, my image may send another message. Whether I like it or not.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Renata
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Renata

Post Number: 320
Registered: 08-2005

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 06:03 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Maybe I should consider independent American films.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Kola
Moderator
Username: Kola

Post Number: 2650
Registered: 02-2005

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 06:05 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Renata, EXACTLY.

Mary J. Blige thinks that children
look at this image and see what she really
means by it.

Mary

But they don't.

What they is a black woman CONFIRMING what the dominant culture and society says about black people. That black is inferior.

Regardless of what Mary MEANS to symbolize, that is what she symbolizes.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Kola
Moderator
Username: Kola

Post Number: 2651
Registered: 02-2005

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 06:09 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

RENATA,

You should just be yourelf, go wherever you wish and try to spread YOUR BELIEFS (because your beliefs are actually good for our people).

We need the ones who look like you to speak out against "darker folks" and their self-hatred and self-destruction.

If they would learn to love themselves...then they could TRULY love you for who you are.

There is nothing wrong with a black man loving you....what's wrong is when it's for your GENES, your "blood connection" to WHITER FOLKS and not your soul. There is nothing wrong with me idolizing your movies...but it is wrong if my adoration of your looks is because I hate my own.

You need to be yourself and use your knowledge to spread the cure.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Medusa
Unregistered guest

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 06:10 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola this is one brilliant ass thread, girl.

Eye opening.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Medusa
Unregistered guest

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 06:12 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

RENATA,

You should just be yourelf, go wherever you wish and try to spread YOUR BELIEFS (because your beliefs are actually good for our people).

We need the ones who look like you to speak out against "darker folks" and their self-hatred and self-destruction.

If they would learn to love themselves...then they could TRULY love you for who you are.

There is nothing wrong with a black man loving you....what's wrong is when it's for your GENES, your "blood connection" to WHITER FOLKS and not your soul. There is nothing wrong with me idolizing your movies...but it is wrong if my adoration of your looks is because I hate my own.

You need to be yourself and use your knowledge to spread the cure.




I agree Kola 100%.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Renata
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Renata

Post Number: 321
Registered: 08-2005

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 06:24 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

OK, so I'll still consider doing African cinema (again, if I'm even considered for a role), but won't take the role of an African woman.


Again, thanks.

Now, I'm wondering if there's the height discrimination that there is in the US? I am only 5'2".
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Kola
Moderator
Username: Kola

Post Number: 2652
Registered: 02-2005

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 06:27 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Renata---there's a lot more casting couches in Africa and "no legal recourse" whatsoever.....so as an outsider going over there......that's really the bottom line you should start from.



Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Kola
Moderator
Username: Kola

Post Number: 2653
Registered: 02-2005

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 06:29 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If I were you, I'd take a trip there first and visit the studios.

With your coloring and because you are American--I'm sure you can get some immediate consideration.

I have good friends in Nigeria who will host you and protect you.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Kola
Moderator
Username: Kola

Post Number: 2654
Registered: 02-2005

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 06:31 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And we could send you as Kola Boof's "sister", I would do a letter for you. That would really help with avoiding the couch.

I know a lot of powerful men there.



Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Renata
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Renata

Post Number: 322
Registered: 08-2005

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 06:53 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'll be emailing you soon.

Thanks.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

samia c
Unregistered guest

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 05:56 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Kola and Renata,*
This is my first day visiting the AALBC website, and I came across your discussion. It caught my attention because at home we are currently Nigerian - Nollywood - mad! We get them in the UK, and have been addicted ever since. lots of actors are absolutely amazing nothing compared with the ones you can see in Europe - I'm sure you can appreciate - as it feels so real! My opininion is there are a lot of different type of actress, I have seen light skinned green eyes actresses doing very well but also "dark skin" just as well. I think Renata should give it a try as some of the story lines go so far beyond Nigeria you might just find your space! Good luck - Kola your input on African cinema is very interesting. Take good care
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Roxie
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Roxie

Post Number: 472
Registered: 06-2005

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 11:29 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

my school's international club held a showing of the comedy "osoufiah in london" (courtesy of the nigerian students). Although it's not the first AFRICAN film I've seen, It's my first nigerian film.

Anyone familiar with it?

It was so popular with the students that they plan on showing "osoufiah in london part 2" come next semester.
I can't wait!:-)
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Roxie
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Roxie

Post Number: 474
Registered: 06-2005

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 11:33 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

VIVA LA CINE' AFRIQUE ! :-)
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Renata
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Renata

Post Number: 323
Registered: 08-2005

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 12:36 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola, I can't quite remember your email address. Write to me at mysisters_keeper@yahoo.com

Roxie, I saw that movie, it was hilarious. Before I was pregnant, I used to go to an African restaurant (Queen's Restaurant in Norcross, if anyone's interested), and they had African satellite television, so I'd sit there and eat and watch TV for hours.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Cynnique
Unregistered guest

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 04:43 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

One question: Over and over I keep hearing this "self-hate" catch-all phrase thrown out there as an explanation for anything that smacks of a black woman wanting to emulate the standards of those who are successful and rich and famous. Maybe the question we should ask is if these women really "hate" themsevles. Since you all keep harping on how despised black women are, using your argument, why then would anyone want to be a black woman? Why can't it be not about hating yourself, but instead about loving yourself enough to not want to be despised??? That is a more normal reaction than wallowing in the masochistic state of being "despised". "Vanity, thy name is woman." If females of any color or ethnicity want to do what makes them feel good about themselves then who is to tell them not to? How many natural blonds or red heads are there in the world? Hair coloring products and cosmetics are a billion dollar industry, all because women want to love themselves. Self hate? Gimme a break. Just because all black women don't want to join the misery loves company brigade doesn't mean they hate themselves. That's just an accusation used by malcontents with an agenda who want to stifle free spirits and make them feel guilty. Live and let live, I always say.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

sean
Unregistered guest

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 07:45 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola i will have to disagree with your statement about Genevie Nnaji being consider a light skinned woman in west africa......... the reason why Genevie Nnaji is so popular among other nigerian actress is because she didn't bleach her skin....... i have heard many nigerians say that they just hope she doesn't bleach her skin...... i am a african american man who is married to a very beautiful dark skin woman from Guinea and she is just the same complexion as Genevieve..... as a united nations representative to west africa i have travel and lived in countries like Guinea( where i met my wife) sierra leone, liberia, ghana, nigeria, and ivory coast..... and most of the dark skin woman i met is just as dark as ms Nnaja...... i haven't gone to east africa yet therefore i don't know much about the women there.... i know that depanding on the equator that is how their complexion look....for example most dark skin people i met in Ghana were darker than the people in liberia, guinean and sierra leone because ghana is closer to the sun.... and i have africans friends who are light skin and they are not mix at all and no bleach... natural light skinned black people....anyway people tell me the reason i love and cherish dark skin women is because i am mix but i don't agree i feel people are entitle to love who ever the hell they want.... it shouldn't be about color!!!
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Kola
Moderator
Username: Kola

Post Number: 2656
Registered: 02-2005

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 08:22 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sean,

#1, I didn't say she was "light skin" (her and I are about the same color; she's slightly darker than me)...I said that to a lot of INDIGENOUS Nigerian people....she is light.

For instance, if you put her on the steets of LAGOS, the capital of Nigeria, she will be far lighter than the majority of Nigerian women walking to and fro---more being "Black" than "Chocolate". No one can deny that and that was my point.

Of course, she is dark chocolate and I'm a huge fan of hers or I wouldn't have started the thread.

#2--If 99% of the people of NIGERIA are dark brown to deep black, which they are, then I think it's unfair that 50% of the people in the videos are light skinned, many Non-Nigerian (imported solely for having light skin) and that BLOND hair and BLUE EYES, white looks, are fettished by people who spend billions on FAKE HAIR from KOREA and SKIN LIGHTENING ointments, which they do. That's a sympton of Colorism plain and simple. I don't care how many light skinned friends that you and I have.

I just offered to help a very lightskinned woman get set up in Nigeria--my friend RENATA (have you been reading the posts?)....so I am always BAFFLED at how few people can separate the "intellectual properties" of the conversation from the personal feelings.

Apparently, I don't HATE Renata for being lightskinned or hate other friends that I've gone out of my way to help for being "light"....otherwise, I wouldn't be offering to help her get started and sending her off as "Kola Boof's sister"....and I'm really sick of people not separating the two.

We have a major PROBLEM in the black race with COLORISM....and I refuse to stop talking about it just to appease light skinned people or people who want to coddle light skinned, mixed and biracial people. I'm so sick of our communities and families being DESTROYED by the preferential treatment that White Supremacy affords these people (like yourself) that I don't know what to do.

And the FACT IS....everything is about color in the world. It doesn't matter what it "shouldn't" be about....IT IS, Sean. And if you really want "love" between us then you are going to have to HELP the darker masses to love themselves and stop worshipping the slave master they miss.





Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Afroamerican
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Afroamerican

Post Number: 168
Registered: 08-2005

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 06:47 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Complexion really IS determined basically by how dark the people are around you! I've heard Sengelese men talk about "light skinned" girls in their countries and when you see a picuture of the girl she's dark brown or medium brown. But its because THEY are so dark, complexionslighter than them really is light skin!

You also can NOT deny Sean that their is TONS of colorism in Nigeria. I've heard Nigerians often make fun of Ghana people because they consider them "darker" Africans than themselves!

Add Your Message Here
Posting is currently disabled in this topic. Contact your discussion moderator for more information.

Topics | Last Day | Last Week | Tree View | Search | Help/Instructions | Program Credits Administration

Advertise | Chat | Books | Fun Stuff | About AALBC.com | Authors | Getting on the AALBC | Reviews | Writer's Resources | Events | Send us Feedback | Privacy Policy | Sign up for our Email Newsletter | Buy Any Book (advanced book search)

Copyright 1997-2008 AALBC.com - http://aalbc.com