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Stephgirl
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Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 12:35 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Why does the racist mainstream media keeps on harping on black womens' supposed hostility toward Interracial relationships? I'm tired of hearing and reading such things on the internet, newspapers. Whites are the worse offenders. They consistantly harped on the supposed opposition of black women while ignoring their own oppostion to it. They don't show white men and white women being angry when in fact they are. Statistics show that whites are still more opposed to IRs than any other group.

Steve Sailer is good at divisive rhetoric. He wants to prove that whites and blacks are different and that black women are just to angry. What this s.o.b. needs to do is to mind his own business and stop being obsess about us because he doesn't know anything about us to make judgements.

What I'm saying is that I'm so sick and tired of the mainstream media harping on a tired subject.

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Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 02:46 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

My feelings are different than yours Steph.

#1---I think that black women should be far more outraged than they are...not at Interracial relationships...but at the betrayal of black men, and the subsequent scapegoating and stereotyping by black men.

And instead of bitching to each other on a constant (as we do)---they should speak up.

Truly, we've got nothing else to lose and "false pride" is just a form of insincerity. I despise the way that Black women DO NOT fight for themselves and do not HONOR themselves, which is the reason that all this is happening in the first place.

Only black women are called "chickenheads", "skanks" and "golddiggers"---bitches and Ho's----by their own sons, fathers and men folk. And only black women, particularly the authentic black ones, are invisible (in films and t.v., the biracial or mixed black woman is too often PASSED OFF as a black woman, which reiterates "white looks"--not blackness). Nobody looks at the beauty of Halle Berry, Mariah Carey or Alicia Keys and credits the black race--they give whites credit for those women's beauty.

Because there is not enough cohesive reaction by black women--because they are not organizing and plotting strategies to combat their invisibility in the social fabric and to combat the "prejudice" that Black men have developed towards black women....things are going to get much worse.

We should really stop caring what White people and Black men think.

We really, really should.


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Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 02:57 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Don't you see? It fits right in with the black bitch stereotype....

Black women are evil hateful bitches for opposing something as "peaceful," and "revolutionary" as interracial 'love'. We're impeding the progress of "racial harmony," multiculturalism, and the end of oppression as we know it--people being viewed as unequals. And, of course, we're interfering with one's "freedom to love."

Meanwhile, whites are chopping at the thought of such a refreshing.. beautiful.. loving means to ending white supremacy because... well... because they don't need white supremacy anyway....

Now, only if them black bitches will move out the way and "let freedom ring!"

...Brilliant!!!

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Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 03:08 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola..

***We should really stop caring what White people and Black men think. We really, really should.***

You hit the hammer right on the head.. we should. But how is that possible when everything we do get dismissed as us just being "bitter" and "evil bitches." Some of us don't care what people think. But that doesn't stop what we say from being dismissed, because of the ongoing stereotypes.

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Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 03:10 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No I don't see.......why black women don't speak up.

It's "Betrayal" and "Erasure", not "interracial love" that Black women are upset about, and rightfully so.

There is a MONUMENTAL difference.

But Black women never seem to be able to articulate their pain or speak up for themselves. They get a heat spot on the brain and can't think.

They get on my fucking nerves.

Whether its EMINEM or whoever it is, they care so much about what White People and Black Men think....that they allow it to silence them.

I say BE a black bitch. That's what America deserves.










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Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 03:16 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tonya,

When Marita Golden wrote "Don't Play In the Sun", she was creating MEDIA for black women.

They can only fight back by supporting that media.

Otherwise, the White media will define them.

I have written so thoroughly and so powerfully about black women's pain and their real experience in my autobiography. I especially focus on the stereotypes of black women being "bitter"---and I rip the stereotypes apart.

But lets see how many sisters will support me and keep me from being silenced....once the MEN take a switch to my ass.

Black women DO NOT support women like YOU, Tonya, who speak truth to power.

That is their downfall.

They're so fucking scared and weak and PRETENTIOUS.

Anytime a black woman tries to create MEDIA that is positive about us...sisters go buy a Jay-Z cd instead. They hate themselves and seek out people who hate them.












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Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 03:32 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

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Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 04:44 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

We should also stop caring about what denizens of the psych ward--such as Kooky Kola and Tonya Two-Face--have to say concerning any sort of relationship, because it's always very difficult for barely passable shemales to find a sustaining relationship with any straight male.
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Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 04:50 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

In general, I think that black men and women are more openly hostile to interracial relationships than whites. Blacks are more likely to confront, verbally or physically, interracial couples in public. Mainstream black media is MUCH MUCH more likely to air opinions critical of interracial relationships than white media. In fact, it's almost unthinkable for white media to criticize interracial relationships in the same manner then black media regularly do (i.e. it's not good for us).

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Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 04:51 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You obviously don't know about Kola's life.

Asswipe.

Just because you don't give a shit about black women or their inner feelings and experiences, doesn't mean they don't have any.

Now step the fuck off before I bite your dick off and eat it,

bitch.


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Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 04:55 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It's "Betrayal" and "Erasure", not "interracial love" that Black women are upset about, and rightfully so.

Explain this.
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Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 04:59 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

That was directed to Shakspir.

This is to you Snotfilledlungs:


I don't agree that Black men and Black women are necessarily HOSTILE to interracial relationships.

I myself lived with a white man for five years. I had other interracial relationships as well.

When a black man (like rapper Common) speaks out "against" it---he's coming from what he KNOWS about black people and their "fetish" and "self-hatred". Not against love.

He, too, has been involved with Non-black women. But as he said---his true love is for his own reflection.

Ditto me. I have only loved one man--the wonderful black man who fathered my children and takes care of us.

The vast majority of these relationships have nothing to do with love, and that's what you see people like myself and others commenting on.

I speak very truthfully (embarrassingly so) about my involvements with White men in my autob. I do that to demonstrate that the playing field is not even. As a young girl, I and my brother both suffered from "confusion".

Whites don't speak out for fear of being branded "racists" and also because---only 2% of them date out of their race. There are 211 million WHITES in this country and only 43 million BLACKS (15% date out of the race). So they aren't losing anything like we are.





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Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 05:11 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The betrayal is from history.

If you don't know the history of black men and women in this country, and before that in Africa, then there's nothing to explain.

Black women feel betrayed, and THEY SHOULD feel betrayed.

And do not.....do not.....set your mouth to compare the mass RAPE of black slave women by white men to the phenomenon of free black men consistently choosing and celebrating white women while calling black women "bitches 'n Ho's" and degrading the IMAGE of their own mother in public discourse.

Black women have been defiled by all men....and never protected by their own.

That shit goes back to Africa.

The institution of slavery was started by BLACK MEN in the year 700 when they sold "black women" to Arabs and Persians....and for hundreds of years, the East African slave trade was WOMEN ONLY. No men were sold.

Black women have been RAPED,not loved, not affirmed.

When the Black Power Movement started in the late 1950's in both the U.S. and all over AFRICA...the Black Man made a vow to protect and cherish his black woman.

There are thousands of books and documentaries and images of Black men and Black Women vowing to ressurect the black race.

Because the whites FEARED the "unity" of the black man and black woman-----they decided to allow black men to have white women. And the truth about our men came out....although, the "colorism" in Black men has always been apparent since the end of slavery.

So you're goddamned right it's a betrayal when a black millionaire can marry a white WAITRESS or NANNY....but dismiss a hardworking single black mother as a "hoodrat chickenhead"----in other words, the White Man's mother is treated as SUPERIOR and the Black Man's mother is "inferior".

Only Halle Berry types are celebrated by Black men, and it's because LIGHT skin represents Whiteness.

It's an enormous betrayal of our entire race. The black man constantly choosing WHITE sends the message that his own race is inferior. That Black Children are inferior.




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Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 05:58 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Because the whites FEARED the "unity" of the black man and black woman-----they decided to allow black men to have white women. And the truth about our men came out....although, the "colorism" in Black men has always been apparent since the end of slavery.

So you're goddamned right it's a betrayal when a black millionaire can marry a white WAITRESS or NANNY....but dismiss a hardworking single black mother as a "hoodrat chickenhead"----in other words, the White Man's mother is treated as SUPERIOR and the Black Man's mother is "inferior".

Only Halle Berry types are celebrated by Black men, and it's because LIGHT skin represents Whiteness.

It's an enormous betrayal of our entire race. The black man constantly choosing WHITE sends the message that his own race is inferior. That Black Children are inferior."

My suggestion is that you leave California; that place is a zoo, anyway.

Another thing that doesn't rub the right way: if blacks are so opposed to interracial dating, why is it so hard for Kola to find a black man who isn't an ignorant darkie?
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Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 07:26 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

***it's always very difficult for barely passable shemales to find a sustaining relationship with any straight male.***

Is that your way of telling us how much you adore us???

I mean.. coming to a board to PICK A FIGHT WITH TWO WOMEN shows just how sweet you really are... sugar....

Well you're in the right place -- you won't be getting punked -- but Kola and I are very sensitive to the plight of gay men; in fact, if we weren't too busy fighting our own struggles, we'd be on the picket line alongside you and your..

"HOMEBOYS." (*Wink-wink*)

But, for right now.. we take issue with being PUSHED AROUND, BULLIED, and VERBALLY ASSAULTED by some grown ass man; cuz, gay or not,

YOUR FAGGOT ASS STILL HIT LIKE A MAN....

So... why don't you pick on someone your own size..

Pussy???

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Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 09:03 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Shakspir,

You obviously can't read.

KOLA has a man.

In fact, due to the fact that Kola Boof is semi-famous, she's got more than a dozen pursuing her.

That's not the point.

My WORK is my work.





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Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 09:07 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

How quickly women cry rape when unpleasant facts are revealed. The reality is that slave owners rarely had to rape their female slaves because these women COMPETED for their masters' attention and considered it an HONOR to bear their (or their sons') mulattoes.

Even after slavery, throughout Jim Crow, there were 100 liasons between black women and white men
for every 1 between black men and white women. And black women were eager and willing partcipants.


Snotfilledlungs,

That's the end for me.

Do not speak to me and I will never speak to you again either.

And make sure you heed my words, or I'll ban you from my board.

I'm through with you.


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Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 10:00 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm sure that when black men are accused of raping white women, that's also not true, considering how many of them are rushing to marry black men.

Oh, I'm sorry, only BLACK women are whores and liars.

I. HATE. FUCKING. STUPID. PEOPLE.

And Tonya, it's mindsets like snotfilledlung's that made sexual harassment an issue ONLY when white women told their stories. Keep in mind that black women have been working outside the home since the twenties when white women stayed home.
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Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 10:00 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

God... It is so PAINFUL to hear black men (of all people) define the rape and sexual assult of black women that way.

So ALL black women and female slaves were in line to bear mullatto children for white men, huh....??

And just how many of us do you think are out seeking sperm donors...?? that's laughable.

Let me asked you a question. Do you think sexual harassment, an issue brought forth mainly by white women, is real.

Because if you can understand that, how on earth can you not understand what powerless black women go through at the hands of white men.

I, myself, have been repeatedly harassed by four different powerful white men in my life, none of whom I knew personally, and one incident resulted in a sexual assault. These guys were my bosses, one was my high school Principal, and the one who assaulted me was a Doctor, who I worked for and trusted, at a medical facility where I was employed. Looking back, I know now that I should have said something, but, back then, I felt powerless. I figured, who is going to take my word, a young working-class black women, over these powerful affluent white men? Even if they were black, it would have still been an uphill battle... so I said, "F it" and I forced myself to forget about it. Now that I'm a little older, I understand that I should have said something, regardless of the outcome.... But I know a lot more now, therefore, I'm not powerless.... What about those who still are?

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Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 10:09 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tonya, your post was before mine, now it's after...how'd that happen?

Anyways, Tonya, that's part of the problem.

Just like Kola said, black women aren't PROTECTED. Instead of black men being angry when their women say they're raped, he instead makes it his point to (in a sense) DEFEND the white man, and make the BLACK woman look like a whore and a liar for mentioning it at all.

If a white woman said a black man raped her, there's NO WAY IN HELL that a white man will think that maybe she consented to it.
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Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 10:09 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

***And Tonya, it's mindsets like snotfilledlung's that made sexual harassment an issue ONLY when white women told their stories. Keep in mind that black women have been working outside the home since the twenties when white women stayed home.***

Gotchu, Reneta.... I uderstand that your post was a response to mine. I had to repost it cuz I mispelled a few words.

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Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 10:14 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


God... It is so PAINFUL to hear black men (of all people) define the rape and sexual assult of black women that way.


Well, I dont think it was rape or sexual assault in the vast majority of cases. I do remember reading of a case where a black woman slave killed her master who attempted to rape her...but she was fresh off the boat from Africa, if I recall correctly.

So ALL black women and female slaves were in line to bear mullatto children for white men, huh....??

Of course not. But women are attracted to powerful men, and slave owners had absolute power over their slaves. It's funny, I was reading a thread (on another forum) about black men's opposition to black women dating/marrying white men. Several black women made comments to the effect that black men really hated to see BW/WM relationships because it showed that the most powerful men on earth appreciated the black woman's strength and beauty. LOL, many black women are really flattered by attention from white men. Imagine how much more so when whites' status relative to blacks was 100X what it is today.

And then there's the way many black women til this day fawn over light skinned babies and males, or those with "good hair." This aint rocket science, ladies.
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Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 10:19 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And I'm sure the white man murdering their sons, fathers, and brothers must have been a real turn on.

I. HATE. STUPID. PEOPLE.
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Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 10:19 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

***Instead of black men being angry when their women say they're raped, he instead makes it his point to (in a sense) DEFEND the white man...***

Reneta that is so true. The facility where I was assaulted was OWNED by a black man (a doctor as well) and it was ran by mostly black people, yet I still did not think I would be believed or defended after speaking up, in fact, I honesty believed I'd be blamed for it and that scared more than anyting else. I wasn't even afraid of loosing my job. I was afraid of being blamed and that they would talk bad about me.

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Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 10:21 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'll talk to you later, Tonya.

To Snot, I have neither the time nor the patience....
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Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 11:07 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

My sisters,

I know that I'm being too sensitive.

But as an African woman who has endured having her vagina circumcised all my life--because genital mutilation of females is what BLACK MEN require in Africa....and as a woman who has been raped several times....and as a woman who knows the history of both Africa (where BLACK MEN dominate our societies with an iron fist and SOLD black women to Arabs and Persians to build their empires) and THIS country....

I cannot tolerate this man on my board.

I just can't.

Fredrick Douglass and every black male writer and black male speaker from the slave era say "emphatically" that black women were RAPED.

Sally Hemmings, who had 6 children by President Thomas Jefferson...had her first baby by him at the age of 12.

Does 12 years old sound like consent to you?

Every black slave narrative...male and female...describes in detail how the slave women were raped, beaten and mutilated whenever white men felt like it.

In the Jim Crow era...black men continued to write about their women being raped and having no Recourse with the LAW.

Marcus Garvey, W.E.B. DuBois and countless other Black men of that era DETAIL their eye witness accounts of black women being raped at white men's leisure.

I cannot tolerate this poster. He is EVERYTHING that I would never want to give birth to.

And I will not host this disrespect.




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Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 10:19 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I guess if a black man is unwilling to preserve and protect his woman he is not worthy of being protected and preserved himself.
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"but Kola and I are very sensitive to the plight of gay men"

"YOUR FAGGOT ASS STILL HIT LIKE A MAN...."

You don't sound very sensitive to the plight of gay men, do you?
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"I, myself, have been repeatedly harassed by four different powerful white men in my life, none of whom I knew personally, and one incident resulted in a sexual assault. These guys were my bosses, one was my high school Principal, and the one who assaulted me was a Doctor, who I worked for and trusted, at a medical facility where I was employed. Looking back, I know now that I should have said something, but, back then, I felt powerless."

Assuming that this is true--and judging from your anger I believe that it is--you should have defended yourself in the first place. Self-respect and self-defense come before anything. But now....well, you are projecting all of your rage onto men, especially black men, for something that happened beforehand. I mean, come on. Being assaulted the first time around should have been fair warning. As a man, I was damn near sexually assaulted in high school--by my so-called best friend--and learned from that moment on NEVER to entirely trust anybody who says he's your friend. But since you allowed this thing to happen, you built all this anger up inside you, and now, look at the outcome....
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Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 04:44 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ROXIE:

I guess if a black man is unwilling to preserve and protect his woman he is not worthy of being protected and preserved himself.

KOLA:

You're absolutely right.


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Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 05:13 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Allowed this to happen". Spoken like a true American man.
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Tonya,I feel sorry for you. The same thing happened to my little sister who was sexual harrassed by her boss. But she told someone and as a result her company is running scared. White men have been assaulting black women for centuries and getting away with it. You should have told someone no matter what the cost was.
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Hi Aaron,

***You should have told someone no matter what the cost was.***

That's one of the questions I've been asking myself for years. Sometimes you know the answers but you still keep finding yourself asking the same questions. Anyway, after it happened, I had a gut feeling, and that's why I didn't say anything -- turns out I was sooooo, so, so right. I mean, yeah, I should have said something -- maybe I'm wrong about that. But now I understand that there's a good reason why I didn't. That's a relief in a way. I can't totally explain why.

As for why I didn't fight back.. it actually amazes me that poeple would automatically assume that I didn't. On some level I kinda knew that they would (part of my gut feeling).. but on another level I thought that it was just me. I ask myself that all the time too-- why didn't I fight back. But the difference with me is, I know that I'm being irrational. It's not that I didn't fight back, I couldn't. That's also hard to explain. It's something that you can only understand once it happens to you. People say that they would do this, or they would do that, if they were ever attacked. It doesn't work that way. For the first part of it, you are in so much shock that you are LITERALLY unable to move. And once your mind catches up, it's too late....

I usually don't apologize for anything I've done.. but I wish that people - black, white, male, or whatever - wouldn't think that way. I did not want it, and I fought back the best way that I knew how at the time. It just wasn't good enough.

Tonya
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Why does the racist mainstream media keeps on harping on black womens' supposed hostility toward Interracial relationships? I'm tired of hearing and reading such things on the internet, newspapers. Whites are the worse offenders.

### It has nothing to do with the mainstream media. The media will focus on “anything” that they feel can generate ratings or attention for a buck. THEY DON’T CARE WHAT IT IS! Black women generally are fanatically opposed to relationships between black men and white women. There is no duplicity or manipulation of facts by the media on this particular subject. I see this open hostility all the time and I have nothing to do with the media.

They consistantly harped on the supposed opposition of black women while ignoring their own oppostion to it.

### Well, they may be opposed to it also as you have suggested. But black women show no reticence nor discreteness about their opposition to it. I’m not judging their angst, just stating that as a group, not as an individuals, they “generally” do not bite their tongues nor temper their hostility towards it.

They don't show white men and white women being angry when in fact they are. Statistics show that whites are still more opposed to IRs than any other group.

### This is very true. Most whites are opposed to IR’s. That is a fact. But that has no bearing on an individuals personal preference or behavior. Most men are opposed to dating extremely over weight women. But there is a percentage of men who are attracted to and seek relationships very overweight women. Should they not do so because “most men” are opposed to openly dating obese women?

Steve Sailer is good at divisive rhetoric. He wants to prove that whites and blacks are different and that black women are just to angry.

### Well, from what I have seen, it’s true. Why do you feel he is lying? As I stated before, I see this open hostility all the time. All the black women I personally know are opposed to BM/WF relationships. Some are more hostile than others, but nevertheless, none are indifferent or supportive. In fact, one of them will become extremely profane and angry to the point of violence. One day a few years ago, I just stumbled across the subject in a conversation. I had do idea she felt the way she did nor did I have any idea as to the level of emotion the subject would illicit. She exploded in a fury of profanity and anger. The woman’s voice was “cracking” because she was screaming at the top of her lungs! I was stunned. I had to quickly change the subject because I feared she would have a stroke or heart attack. It was that bad. She has done this before when the subject inadvertently came up. Needless to say, I will not discuss BM/WM relationships with her anymore. Now granted, she is an extreme example and I’m not suggesting all black women respond like she did. That is not true. The others just respond with exasperation, frustration and cynicism. But the consensus response is one of negativity and disapproval.

What this s.o.b. needs to do is to mind his own business and stop being obsess about us because he doesn't know anything about us to make judgements.

### I don’t agree. How can you not comment about something when some people will make their personal feelings public? If he states that black women are generally opposed to BM/WF relationships, why would that bother you? It’s true. I have had plenty of black men and white women tell me of personal experiences of black women brazenly commenting and openly confronting them about their relationships. WTF? I can understand your personal objections. I don’t have a problem with that. But when your objections are thrown in the face of people you don’t know simply because you don’t like who they are dating, I think there is a problem there. And to be fair, it is not just black women who will do this. Whites are notorious for doing so also. But generally (and I guess this depends on where you live) their objection is relegated to hostile looks and staring.

What I'm saying is that I'm so sick and tired of the mainstream media harping on a tired subject.

### No harping, just the facts. You seem to be sensitive about the fact that they may be focusing on black women. I can understand your belief that there is a lack of parity on the subject. And you are probably right. But nevertheless, it does not diminish the fact that many black women are openly hostile and negative about BM/FM relationships regardless of their reasoning.
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Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2006 - 12:21 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tonya
----I, myself, have been repeatedly harassed by four different powerful white men in my life, none of whom I knew personally, and one incident resulted in a sexual assault.---

Goddamn. O.O! -_-'

Court-ordered castrations sound more and more appealing every day, doesn't it? ^_^
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the media ignores a more sinister opposition to these relationships, opposition that is more harmful than being cussed out or stared at. It involves interracial couples being thrown out of apartments by white landlords and or being fired by white bosses because they are in interracial relationships. To me this is the real story. I have personally seen these things happen. I also have seen a predominantly white police force harass black males who they know are in interracial relationships with white women. And all the medica can focus on is the black woman's opposition. This is ridiculous.
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I think that we black women should stop focusing on black men and start to care for ourslves. Screw them. If they want white women, so be it. If i thought about this stuff everyday, i would get depressed and that isnt helpful. This country has effectively advertised the idea that white women reign supreme, the more white the better, and everyone on the planet has bought into this crap. I have got to the point where i dont care anymore.
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Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 11:06 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"I think that we black women should stop focusing on black men and start to care for ourslves. Screw them. If they want white women, so be it. If i thought about this stuff everyday, i would get depressed and that isnt helpful. This country has effectively advertised the idea that white women reign supreme, the more white the better, and everyone on the planet has bought into this crap. I have got to the point where i dont care anymore."

Ditto. But don't be sad - be glad. The day of liberation has arrived for you.
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Saddenedblackgirl, keep your head up. You shouldn't give a shyt anymore. You cannot change their minds. The majority of black men would never turn down a white women and that's a fact. Accept it, move on. Focus on you. The reciprocity just isn't there. Black women need to unite together and strengthen ourselves against the negativity spewed by the media, and by those scores of black men who--out of major self-contempt--direct their hatred towards us. If you have to find companionship and love elsewhere, then so be it...

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