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VanillaVixen
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Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 03:59 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hate light skinned women but will date/ marry white men??

This seems wo be a strong trend among dark skinned women.

What's up with that? Do you not realize that your children (especially you daughters) will be in the same image that you hate so much??
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Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 04:16 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I think they can't find a black man.

Because they're dark with black features.

It depends a lot on what part of the country they are in.

I have three girlfriends like that and I used to think they were making excuses, but the more I watched how brothers acted towards them, the more I saw it was true.

They have to go with white and other men or go gay.

Just telling it like I've seen it. You have a few who are convinced they're ugly. I know a girl whose brothers used to tell her she was ugly growing up because she's so black.







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Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 05:27 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I agree with Medusa, this sounds one of many women who's never been told that her dark skin is ugly. Women like that often transfer their torment in two ways: First they show open contempt for the women who have what they don't. Then they are subconciously attracted man who will give them a child that will have the features they wish they had. I'd worry for the CHILD of such a tortured soul.

A cycle of psychological abuse, that's what it is.
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Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 05:28 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Exuse me:
this sounds one of many women who's ALWAYS BEEN told that her dark skin is ugly.
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You guys are saying a whole lot of bullshit that simply isn't true. #1. Most darkskinned females don't "hate" lightskinned females, or anyone for that matter. They despise a system of hatred towards darkskinned women, which supports white supremacy and lightskinned women, while demonizing, minimizing & dispariging the darker ones. They're fed up with vindictive, conniving, backstabbing women (like y'all); most of whom are lightskinned, and are primary cohorts of this system, because it supports and benifits them & women like them. It's a system in which light, mixed, white women, and perhaps y'all are nothing without. #2. Most darkskinned women with African features aren't with, nor are they looking to be with, white men. Don't forget, white men are colorist, as well. Most of the black women who are with white men are either lightskinned, mixed, or darskinned with keen features; and most darkskinned black women are with black men. #3. A very small percentage of darkskinned women "go gay" for reasons involving colorism. The ones who do are usually the darkest of the dark; and beause of our ass backwards self-hatred towards black skin, some of them opt to do that as a last resort. Through no fault of their own, these women are made to suffer, someting many of us should be ahamed of. #4. Most darksinned women do not think they are ugly -- instead they think women like y'all are the prime examples of in-side-out, shit on a dookie stick, rotten to the core, fugly!

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Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 01:31 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I totally agree Tonya.

Not that I think Roxie is any type of bad person, I don't. And I don't know Vanilla Vixen. I don't know if her name is supposed to be an indication that she's "white"?

But the dark skinned black woman---who is actually THE black woman...is greatly stereotyped and misunderstood by lighter women and Roxie's post, to be frank, wounded me.

The CONTEMPT they feel "Roxie"---is for the racism that "OTHER" women benefit from and deny exists. Believe it or not, a great majority of dark skinned females do not think they're ugly....what they think (and get angry about)...is that their type of beauty is being overlooked, because of a racist society.

And they're right.

And I would agree that women who look like Whoopi Goldberg and Alfre Woodard end up with WHITE MEN because of the black community's "colorism" and rejection of those type of women---both women have said as much (hell, even IMAN has complained that she couldn't get dates with Black American men of her "stature/class") before settling on David Bowie.

Tonya, if you go to Belgium, Denmark or France...you will see TONS of White Men who are married to West African women with total African features and short hair. Colorism is far more an "AMERICAN" thing---although it exists globally and is CATCHING ON amongst Africans.

I have always been told by black men that I was beautiful (I think "Cynique" pointed out that I have a big nose)---but I've always had plenty of attention and love from BLACK MEN, and "all" races of men have considered me desirable and pursued me.

And I have DOUBTED my looks and I doubt them right now--because of age.


But I never disliked my color or features. I always KNEW that I was pretty and had a killer body.

So what would explain my "Confrontational resentments" towards SOME light women politically?

Since I clearly don't value light skin, it's not jealousy. It's about INJUSTICE and them claiming to be "BLACK" women---but despising and dishonoring the blackness of a black woman and making excuses for why they HELP to denigrate and marginalize authentic black women.

They really don't see what's coming.

And it's a good thing that they underestimate the black woman.











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Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 06:02 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola,

I'm sorry if you cannot accept what I said there. It's the truth, whether you like it or not.

I've known women as You and Tonya describe (dark women who know the value of their skin) and I know women as I've described( those who have fully fallen victim to life-long conditioning of white beauty as a standard.) For some of those women, "I am Asli Nala" or "I am a true black woman" is not playing through their heads. Some of these women have only the television as their resource and a long family history of insults thrown at their appearance. I've seen enough suicide attempts and roomed with enough self-mutilated dark girls to know that not everyone is as lucky as Tonya and Kola (and me)!

(Plus it didn't help matters either that their Psychlogists/Psychiatrists where mostly white and asian. I worry about those girls to this very day.)

You may assume I'm straddling a fence, go ahead, but just because I can see two psychological types in dark women and you two can't, don't gang together and attack me.
Come over where I live and see you may get a whole different picture.

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Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 06:24 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola,
You be the mother of the women who love their skin. Meanwhile, I will continue looking out for the women who, to this day, have missed the message. I SWEAR I've said this before, but THEY need to be reached the most. The more self-confident dark women we can bring up, the more recruits we have for your base.
You tell me that I am in no place to speak for dark women's feelings (aren't YOU brown too?),but I CAN relate to their childhood of psychological abuse where one's well-being, self-image and overall confidence was impaired at childhood and most of these adults have to use assistance (if that luxury's available) to start building up their damaged well-being at a time when most adults are already psychologically prepared for the world.

It this all sounds like an attack it's not, but I'm just telling you (and everyone else that I'm trying to look out for the one group EVERYONE on this damn board seems to overlook: the PSYCHOLOGICALY AND EMOTIONALLY DAMAGED. Not every woman is like me and is strong enough to REPAIR THEMSELVES, you know!
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Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 07:06 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Women who look like Alfre Woodard or Whoopi Goldberg are suffering from self hate and just straight up WEAK.They need a white man on their arms to feel good about themselves.

As a Black American male, i can understand why Iman couldn't get a date with a Black American. Iman is cute but i don't find her Caucasian features attractive with her beautiful dark skin and i am sure a lot of other AA brothas feel the same. And she doesn't have a nice body. She's like a white girl with dark skin.
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Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 11:06 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Honesty, I'm SICK of this topic. :-)




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Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 02:42 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So am I. :-\

Can we please agree to disagree without giving one another THE SECOND DEGREE?
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Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 03:58 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

We can change the subject; but the only point I want to make to you, Roxie, is.. don't you think that it's disingenuous to speak as if the vast majority of darkskinned girls are like the suicidal, self-mutilating, PSYCHOLOGICALY & EMOTIONALLY DAMAGED, Not strong enough to REPAIR THEMSELVES, females you "know"? :-)

There are many white girls, for example, who are seriously damaged due to anorexia; but that doesn't mean that white girls in general are in that dire of a condition regarding weight. So wouldn't it be absurd to refer to them as if they were? :-)

I understand where you are coming from, though. Colorisim does effect most darksinned females very deeply. But I doubt if it effects most of them in the ways you mentioned.

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Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 04:15 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oops. This might be one of those occassions when I should've used the word "affect" instead of "effect". Could that be the case, Cynnique?
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Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 04:32 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tonya,

Spare me for being emotional here ,I have a right to be. You'd get riled up too if you were haunted by the memories of a roomate with skin so damaged from constantly immersing herself in peroxide and clorox bleach, and everyone tells you youre LYING and EXAGGERATING! Knowing what I know, it's REALLY hard to keep a moderate perpective in this area, even though I try hard.

Going back to bed now.
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Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 04:39 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Affects" is the correct word.
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Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 04:44 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I can't say I disagree with Roxie too much. I've known women in Mississippi who actually add bleach and/or peroxide to their bath water. And men who've had children with different women, and will decide to stay with whichever woman gives him the lightest skinned children. It sounds sick, and I know it isn't the majority, but it happens.
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Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 09:31 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

But, Reneta.. I have roots in the south too. I know of MANY light, medium, and light brown skinned blacks who do things like that; in fact, people may not be aware of this, most of the women who bleach are within the medium and lighter end of the spectrum.... Most aren't darskinned. I know this from experience.. but I also read it somewhere. If I'm not mistaken (I hope I'm not) it was stated in "Dont Play In The Sun" - Marita Golden's book.

Aa for black men opting to have light skinned children... that's an AA phenomenon, not just a black male one. And lightskinned people are just as affected by it. Let's not forget The Blue Vein Society.

I agree, it's all very, very sick. But a lot of what Roxie's talking about are extreme psychopathies.

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Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 04:26 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

There is no such thing as a light skinned black
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Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 05:56 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Why are all of these new people suddenly popping up just in the last week?

Just curious.
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Posted on Thursday, December 01, 2005 - 01:22 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Whoopi Goldberg is just ugly. And I find it hard to believe that Iman was ever hurting for attention from black men.
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Hello everyone,
I have just come across this forum and would like to inject my two pennies worth.

My Mother is black and has a fair complexion, my father is black with a dark complexion. I have very fair skin as do many memebers of my family. up until school age to me black was black no matter what shade we were. Infact i always wished i was darker because every pimple or blemish would show up and boy, i couldn't hide tiredness cus my complexion would look sallow!

Anyway i attended summer school once and got picked on the whole time because the darker kids accused me of not being 'properly black'. I was shoved up against a fence and they held open my mouth - they said my gums were too pink to be black.

During secondary school the other girls presumed i thought i was 'too nice' just because i am light skinned.

I'm 29 years old and have never forgotten it.

Let me tell you i am 'blacker' than alot of dark skinned people - my thoughts and how i have been brought up.

I don't wear weaves, put in colour contact lenses or relax my hair, been out with a white guy, etc etc.

Yet i still see forum's like this and hear dark skinned people going on about light-skinned this and that.

I'm rabbling on but i'm just sick of all this. We have enough rasicm from white people to deal with.

Dark skinned people - most of you need to get over yourselves - its you who have put light skinned women on this stupid pedestal.

As for adverts - all i see is mixed race women - not black women with fair skin AND dark skinned women

Women like me don't really exist on tv. To me Tyra Banks is not fair skinned - she is way darker than me.

thanks for reading my post.

PS Perhaps i should mention i live in London. Most adverts here have these type of women.
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Yours is a familiar story. Dark-skinned people are so self-absorbed they can't see past their resentment. They always want to cast themselves in the sympathetic roles but they are just as "colorist" as those they accuse of it. Their method of coping is to blame the blameless.
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Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 07:08 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LOL, I'm sick of these topics too...

Yes, there is no such thing as a light skinned black person..

Mulatta, you're right...


There's also no such thing as brown being black....

Black should be black when the person is black as in black..

There's also no such thing as a white person..

They're more pink to me than "white" LOL...

Until everything is situated and people are identified by true colors, mixed/light skinned AAs will always be called black by society..
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Sometimes people of different races marry because they actually love each other.
Did that ever occur to any of you?

My Mom is dark Black. My Dad is White. I have a complexion in between the two of them, I am more like Halle Berry.
Neither my Mom or my Dad or myself or my sister is in any way "pschologically damaged" by our skin color. We are all very well-adjusted people.
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Thank God I am a Nigerian..where we have people of all shades and sorts..We've got mad love for every shade of skin colour although it seems america's obsession with colourism is encroaching in on them
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As a Black American male, i can understand why Iman couldn't get a date with a Black American. Iman is cute but i don't find her Caucasian features attractive with her beautiful dark skin and i am sure a lot of other AA brothas feel the same. And she doesn't have a nice body. She's like a white girl with dark skin.

above post was blackamericaking.



I am so sorry to read such a stupid post by the above mentioned poster. Africa has the most diverse set of people in the whole world over and so cannot be definied in a certain way. IMAN's features are in no way caucasian to me infact most Eastern Africans are like that. In West Africa, you will get people who have features like her and far more lighter skinned than Diana Rosss and no! they are not mixed. They are 100% africans!


Do Read up and converse with people from the Continent
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Posted on Friday, December 23, 2005 - 08:57 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This statement is bullshit:

Thank God I am a Nigerian..where we have people of all shades and sorts..We've got mad love for every shade of skin colour although it seems america's obsession with colourism is encroaching in on them

COLORISM is now invading Nigeria---where the vast MAJORITY (99%) of the people are blue black, Chocolate Fudge, Snicker-bar Chocolate, Dark Brown colored and ...if you're IBO, Pecan Brown.

You can walk the streets of LAGOS for two weeks before you run into a "high yellow" African, and of course, when you do----they are MIXED with Non-African blood.

Fela Kuti's song "Yellow Fever" is just one sign of the problem with Dark Black NIGERIA and its obsession with light skin.....and the fact that so many Nigerian women are now SKIN BLEACHING and wearing fake hair...because the Nigerian men are so colorstruck.

And that's what's REAL.

So don't come in here trying to pretend that COLORISM is a "Black American" problem.

It's a BLACK PEOPLE problem worldwide.

There are THOUSANDS of Nigerian men in the U.S. who will marry any Fat White Skank they can find or try to pursue the Lightest Skin Black American women they chase. So don't lie about the shit.








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Posted on Friday, December 23, 2005 - 08:59 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

In West Africa, you will get people who have features like her and far more lighter skinned than Diana Rosss and no! they are not mixed.


Oh yeah, how often is this?

What percentage of the population is LIGHTER than Diana Ross with features sharper than hers?

And why are you so anxious to put the LIGHTEST face on West Africa that you can?

Why not Toot the Horn of the MAJORITY????




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Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 05:07 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I wish you black people in here can realize that black is beautiful. No matter what it looks like.
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I see that Black people are still weak and totally focused on the unintelligent.

Black people have already fought this battle for you during the 50's, 60's and 70's.

When I go to other minority sites, they offer truly important topics and don't use their sites as a intra-haters/bitter argument board.

They support one another and impart important political, social, educational and business information and helpful articles.

I notice that black boards do not help each other at all, but are constantly bickering about the "school yard" self-hate learned in elementary school.

This is why I go to other minority websites. I want to see where we are going and what is being done to improve and support the race.

Black websites offer a lot of cussing and taunting.

And some of these claim to have higher educations.
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"But I never disliked my color or features. I always KNEW that I was pretty and had a killer body."----So why is your mind always on "lighter skinned" women?

"So what would explain my "Confrontational resentments" towards SOME light women politically?"----That you simply have such deep-seated hatred of yourself (you buy into it), that you must retaliate against every light-skinned girl (not the boys, mind you). It's a very colonial thing.

"Since I clearly don't value light skin, it's not jealousy."--Oh, yes you do! You wish that all light-skinned children would go away. Somehow light-skinned people/children take something away from you.

"It's about INJUSTICE and them claiming to be "BLACK" women" --ALL OF THEM? There were no light-skinned people front and center fighting for Civil Rights? None of these civil rights leaders went on to become judges, congress people, and spokesmen or women for Civil Rights? I wonder if Malcom X, Rosa Parks and Thurgood Marshall knew that they weren't "black" enough to protest and die against white racism

"---but despising and dishonoring the blackness of a black woman"--You personally KNOW what every black woman has thought since the beginning of time? You have PERSONAL knowledge that every dark skinned mother HATES her lighter skinned child or visa versa?

"and making excuses for why they HELP to denigrate and marginalize authentic black women."--Excuse me, but aren't you helping to denigrate and marginalize YOURSELVES when you continuouslly shake your asses to women-hating raps and hip-hop? It's your own brothers who are going all around the world to tell everybody what bitches and ho's you are. Most of the successful black women today in rap and hip-hop are (gasp!) BLACK! So if there are no dark women in these multi-million dollar women of hip/hop and rap videos-----THAT IS THEIR CALL. That light-skinned little sister or baby out there didn't do it to ya!

"They really don't see what's coming."---And what is coming? More BLACK ON BLACK CRIME? Is that your threat? That the second wave of Civil Rights will be dark skinned women beating the crap out of the lighter skinned babies, young girls, grandmothers and others? What will their husbands, fathers, brothers, uncles, boyfriends say to all of this?

"And it's a good thing that they underestimate the black woman."---You are the one with the problem. And you are the one doing all of the underestimating. You suppose that all light-skinned people have no dark siblings, children, husbands, boyfriends, mothers and fathers. No one is going to submit to your racist and nilistic ravings. You sound just like a racist skin-head.

Your bitterness and self-destructiveness/black self-hatred, speak so very pitifully and sorrowfully for themselves.

You need to understand that world is not against you, trying to fix you, or purposely made you who you are on purpose.

People are called out because they are different, too fat, too tall, too short, have pimply skin, have big noses, are on welfare, practice the wrong religion, are too light, too dark, too pretty, too cool, too dorky, are too popular, are too slow.

I cannot blame the skinny because I am too fat.

I cannot blame the short because I am too tall.

I cannot blame the tall because I am too short.

I cannot blame the cool because I am not popular.

I cannot blame the pretty girl, because I am not considered pretty.

Everybody gets teased for something in life and are left out.

The more secure and intelligent get over it.

They probably have great role models telling them intelligent and supportive things.

You need to thoroughly read your own black history.

And do not pass over the people because they are not the color you wish they would be.





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well im dark skin and it hurts me that every1 has a problem with complexion but when it comes 2 it i say that it depends on features and personality... ive seen both ugly dark skin girls as well as light ones i feel youre look may attract someone but youre personality is what keeps them...im proud of my complexion bcuz GOD gave it to me Everything he makes and touches is beautiful.we are all beautiful.4every person you find that perfers light skin theres someone who prefers dark or doesnt care either or just everybody love yourself and stop stereotyping the whites already do that for us.
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well im dark skin and it hurts me that every1 has a problem with complexion but when it comes 2 it i say that it depends on features and personality... ive seen both ugly dark skin girls as well as light ones i feel youre look may attract someone but youre personality is what keeps them...im proud of my complexion bcuz GOD gave it to me Everything he makes and touches is beautiful.we are all beautiful.4every person you find that perfers light skin theres someone who prefers dark or doesnt care either or just everybody love yourself and stop stereotyping the whites already do that for us.
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One day, I saw some AAs makin fun of an AA girl for being darker than all of them.... and then I looked around and saw a bunch of black people, wether they was light skinned or dark skinned.. all of them seemed to look just like the black girl... and then I thought to myself, "how hypocritic of them" to do such thing to themselves, hate the color black, the most important part of being black. Without the black man, there would be no NFL black stars, nor would have America been full of black NBA stars. Black is beautiful, black is something nobody should try to get rid of, but somehow people hate it as if it was a sin. It breaks my heart..
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Black is strong :-).

Black is sexy..

How can someone hate the color black... ?
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Reading all these posts has made me really sad. I think that most of us are missing the point. I am proud to say that I am a beautiful dark-skinned black woman. Although most people, white, black or whatever, can look at me and agree that I have beautiful features, the fact still remains that overall, the fact that my skin is a darker shade of black apparently still means that I am less attractive, regardless. The problem is not that I am mad at or jealous of the lighter-skinned women. I am just saddened to know that a dark skinned woman, no matter how beautiful she may be, is still more likely to be overlooked (especially by black men) just because of her skin tone. I know many lighter skinned women whom, based on features alone, could not possibly be considered more beautiful than I. But if I were to walk down the street beside one of them, who do you think would get noticed? I don't say this because I am jealous of HER, I say it because it makes me sad that someone feels that I am too "dark" to notice. They associate dark with ugly, and decide not to even give me the benefit of the doubt. Who knows, maybe if you took that closer look, you would see that I am just as beautiful. It's hard, even when you have the confidence inside and know that you are beautiful, to come out and face a world that tells you every day that no matter what you do, you are just a bit too dark.

All I ask to you people out there who don't really understand, is to take a closer look. Just try to expand your definition of beauty. The next time you see a dark skinned black woman, don't overlook her. Take a glance. Acknowledge her. Is it really that hard? It does not mean that she has low self-esteem and NEEDS to be affirmed, but it just means that you understand that beauty is diverse - and I feel that even that is a small step to healing the psychological wounds that have been inflicted from years of enslavement.

To my black men, I love you all so much. That's why it hurts so much when you tell me things like "I'm not really into dark skinned women" or "I don't think dark skinned women are as attractive". For me, it's often like you're telling me "You're beautiful you know, BUT..." (But what, the mere color of my skin has somehow lessened this beauty? That is so difficult to swallow). If my own brothers do not find me beautiful, who will? If you teach the white man that your women are only good enough the lighter they are, what kind of message are you really sending to the world?

To my lighter skinned sisters, go on and do your thing. Nobody hates you or is judging or being jealous of you. Nobody blames you for something that you did not bring about yourselves. I just want you to understand that when this issue comes up, when a dark skinned sister is venting about the color complex, realize that she is not attacking or questioning YOUR beauty, but is only asking that HER beauty be acknowledged in the same way yours has for hundreds of years.

To my dark skinned sister, I know you already know, but let me tell you again that you are beautiful. I know it's hard when you wake up and face a world that tries to tell you otherwise but you know what? Don't be afraid to hold your head high. Don't be afraid to be strong. And remember that the only person that can really and truly love you COMPLETELY, just as you are, is...YOU. Learning to love yourself truly is the most amazing gift you can give yourself.
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What a beautiful post, Nikki. I agree with EVERY word. It appears that your experience is strikingly similar to mine because I totally feel you. Knowing that you're beautiful and being told that all of your life, makes colorism all the more real because you know that the only thing that separates you from other women, and makes you invisible by some who are no way near as beautiful... is how your own people perceive the color of your skin. And it has nothing to do with you being jealous. I feel you.

Tonya
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I totally agree with your statement Nikki, I too have had to deal with that kind of bs my whole life and I am still dealing with it.

I have a penpal that I am in contact with on a regular basis we have met once but we live in different counteries, about a month ago he sent me an email saying that I am the most beautiful darkskinned girl he has ever seen and that before he met me he used to prefer light skin. I was really hurt by his statement. For one what was he trying to say that in his whole life he has never seen an attractive dark girl and two by him blatently coming out and saying he prefers light skin shows his ignorance anyway. I sent him an email back and told him that I was offended by his comment and he could not even understand why. I had to really break it down for him. That upset me even more because it just goes to show how much black men do not understand us and that they are responsible for half of the pain we have to go through for being dark. I dont give a damn about what white men think of me (even though I seem to get more compliments from them about my skin tone than from black men)black men are supposed to love us, its natural but they have been conditioned to accept a more european standard of beauty and its a shame.

The person who started this thread about black women hating light skinned women and then dating white have you ever woundered why? White men do not have the colour complex the way black men do, when a white man dates black he usually goes for a darkskinned women and he is enamoured by her complexion. I have seen it and I have had many compliments from white men about my skin tone.

And as for hating light skinned women that too is incorrect. Again Nikki hit the nail on the head their beauty is always put before ours simply because of their european appeal and its not right, we dont hate them we hate the system that has created such a situation and we also hate the fact that black men have refused to acknowledge it.

The world does not value our beauty unless it is on a white women or a women that looks white. ie angelina jolies big lips and jennifer lopez ass. We have been carrying these features since the begining of time but they are only acceptable when they are not on us.

Everyone talks about the strong black women, why because we look fearless on the outside but we are hurting on the inside but yet some of us still manage to carry ourselves with dignity and pride. We need reassurance from our own men that we are beautiful. But unfortunately I believe the damage has already been done this situation is only going to get worse as long as we are bombarded with european standards of beauty black men will always have that type of preferance. And Im not saying that all black men are like this I have met many that understand how the world has brainwashed us and they are dark skinned and love darkskinned women too. And I am not saying that men should not like light skinned women neither just take a deeper look at the situation and realise that beauty does not just have to be what you see on the tv.

My prediction for the future is that more and more black particularly darksinned women will start to date and marry white men, and no its not because of the money its becuase of the way they love the colour of our skin and will put us on a pedal stool and make us feel like the queens that we are. Noone wants to be second best and everybody needs to be loved. Take a look around its happening already, sad but true!
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nubia, I agreed with mostly what u said but if you honestly think white men love dark skin, you are fooling yourself.
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I dont think Im fooling myself at all, as I have stated I get continuous compliments from white men about my skin complexion and I know of many black women who have white husbands or boyfriends.

Again the media would like us to believe that white men are not attracted to black women as it turns white supremacy on its head. The white man has placed the white woman on a pedal stool as the ideal of beauty, that is why they only highlight the black nba players with white wives to give the impression that indeed white women are the ideal "look even black men are marrying them" when in fact there are more nba players with black wives than white so why does the media not document that?! there are also numerous white stars who have black wives and suprise suprise there is no media coverage.

I am not trying to say that every single white man is attracted to darkskinned women but there are a great number that are as a darkskinned black women who has travelled countless different states in the usa and also numerous european counteries I have had nothing but positive responses from white men no matter where I have been and thats simply my experience.

Might I add I am NOT attracted to white men in any way, my parents are african, I date african men I find that the issue with skin complexion is largely amoungst american and west indian black men. No offense to anyone but thats is just my experience.
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"I dont think Im fooling myself at all, as I have stated I get continuous compliments from white men about my skin complexion and I know of many black women who have white husbands or boyfriends.

Again the media would like us to believe that white men are not attracted to black women as it turns white supremacy on its head. The white man has placed the white woman on a pedal stool as the ideal of beauty, that is why they only highlight the black nba players with white wives to give the impression that indeed white women are the ideal "look even black men are marrying them" when in fact there are more nba players with black wives than white so why does the media not document that?! there are also numerous white stars who have black wives and suprise suprise there is no media coverage.

I am not trying to say that every single white man is attracted to darkskinned women but there are a great number that are as a darkskinned black women who has travelled countless different states in the usa and also numerous european counteries I have had nothing but positive responses from white men no matter where I have been and thats simply my experience.

Might I add I am NOT attracted to white men in any way, my parents are african, I date african men I find that the issue with skin complexion is largely amoungst american and west indian black men. No offense to anyone but thats is just my experience."



wow nubian, your last post sounds almost exactly like a post i made at another messageboard....have you been copying my stuff?...LOL (joking)....but seriously it is a huge coincidence....LOL

anyway...really good points and of course i agree with you whole heartedly...haha

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To Misty:

That is what I have experienced and through logical reasoning I have drawn the stated conclusions. The fact that you and so many other people around the world share the same view only confirms what I believe.

Thanks for your response
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Black men cannot appreciate black women of all shades, especially the dark skinned ones--leaving darker skinned sistas to go where they will be accepted, even if it is outside their race. But this is NOT true of all dark skinned sistas. I still see plenty of them with black men. Just face it, if you are attractive, you will get dates, regardless of your shade!

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