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     Kola_boof "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Kola_boof Post Number: 466 Registered: 02-2005 Rating: N/A |
First of all, Public Enemy--- You WILL NOT...use the term "negro" as a negative alternative to Black People. The word "nigger" is what you are referring to---NOT "negro". In Africa, we have 3 main races...The Nilotic, The Negro and the Pygmy. The Negro people (West Africans) are the first child of the Nilotic (East Africans). Nilotics are Charcoal black, extremely tall with long faces (elongated skulls). The Negro is a deep ebony black (not charcoal), the majority of them are a deep Chocolate fudge color...they have think rind lips, flat wide noses and are known for a Muscular Body. The female are World Famous for their Dukan cake (high plump BOOTY). ONCE the slave trade began, the Negro people were forced or sold by their own Kings into Slavery and brought to the Western Hemisphere. The Europeans forced them to become "NIGGERS"---and a whole new "slave mentality" was created. Niggerish and niggardly behavior (such as COLORISM) was set in motion and became PART of the "culture" of these people in the United States. A Negro, in his natural African state, is a noble and very impressive human being. By hating the word "Negro"---you are immediately making it OK to hate "negroid facial features", "negroid hair", "negroid languages and cultures"-----which are different from East African cultures and looks. And because I am a Nilotic African, the mother of the Africa Negro race, I am especially offended. So you will NOT be allowed by Kola Boof to use the word "Negro" as a negative slur in relation to the term "Black People". They are one in the same. "Niggers" Vs. "Black People" is what will be acceptable terminology on this BOARD. _____________ If you use the other terms---I will delete them from this board.  Second of all......COLORISM has been a defining factor in my life. My Egyptian grandmother, Najet Kolbookek, put me up for adoption--her own granddaughter--after my birth parents were killed, because she couldn't have the people in her Kom Ombo neighborhood realizing that she had "black" in her. Coming to America and being adopted by Black Americans.....I grew up and became even more attuned to the "sickness" of Colorism (which is the root activator of Racism)....and as an adult, I have realized that this is one Issue that God wants me in particular to speak about and crusade against....mainly because the reality of it has permeated my life. Therefore, for those of us here who are Black, African, Darkskinned or Lightskinned who CARE about this most grave issue.....we will discuss it as much as we like and to the degree of our personal truths. What you experience in your life....is not what everyone else experiences in their lives. In my novel "Flesh and the Devil"---I used a High yellow woman with green eyes to tell the story of Colorism. In the book...her "yellow" mother (who adored and idolized very dark chocolate people)...hates and abuses RooAmber for being "lightskinned" with green eyes. Whether YOU want to acknowledge it or not....there are SOME yellow women who have actually experienced this treatment. On the one hand--they are idolized by very dark skinned men who think anything light-brite is BETTER....but on the other hand, they receive hate and rejection from Black women, even FAMILY MEMBERS, and very often......Yellow women can't stand OTHER yellow men, because they want to emerse themselves in Darker people. No matter which side it is---it's COLORISM. So I advise RIGHT NOW to be aware that you will either offer your two cents like anybody else....or shut the fuck up. This issue is one of the most prevalent in the African American community and it has been for 200 years now. Welcome  | ||
| Kola Moderator Username: Kola Post Number: 2059 Registered: 02-2005 Rating: |
Let's look at the NILOTIC RACE ....and then, their child....the NEGRO RACE. NILOTICS:   In the beginning...the continent of AFRICA was called by OUTSIDERS Aithiop or "Ethiopia"......those, however who LIVED WITHIN AFRICA, "us, the blacks"....called it The Kiss of God's Wife. Both "Egypt" and "Sudan" means literally----LAND OF THE BLACKS. The word "Ethiopia" refers to Aithiop, a Greek nature goddess with deep BLACK skin.  BEFORE "Rah" the Sun God....the Nilotics worshipped his grandmother, "Asli Nalla", the first human being who is Cushitic, the first HEBREW language being Cushitic and was Semetic and was "Charcoal". Our own board member---Nyibol-- who posts as "African Queen"... is a PURE CUSHITE woman from the Dinka tribe.  CUSH and NUBIA are "both" within the borders of SUDAN. In ancient times---Sudan was part of Ethiopia, which was the continent back then---not the country. Today's Ethiopia was called "Axum Empire" back then. HERE ARE MORE NILOTICS (before we look at the Negroes:   A PURE "Nilotic" woman", unfortunately the Europeans pose her with a white man.    NILOTIC PEOPLE...wear BOLD, SOLID COLORS, they are "skinny people" with long faces---very very tall    The model IMAN is Nilotic ---notice the LONG FACE  Now let's look at the children of the Nilotics. THE WEST AFRICANS, Central Africans (CONGO) and South Africans ....who are called "NEGROES". THE NEGRO PEOPLE       King of Ghana with Son      The ASHANTI King and Queen  The Ashanti Royal Prince  QUEEN KaipKire         TAKE PRIDE...in the NEGRO PEOPLE  | ||
| Blkamericanking Regular Poster Username: Blkamericanking Post Number: 48 Registered: 08-2005 Rating: N/A |
Kola, All of those pics were very beautiful. Thanks for sharing. | ||
| Somali_boy Newbie Poster Username: Somali_boy Post Number: 7 Registered: 08-2005 Rating: N/A |
mothafucka africa is not only negro and nilotic what about berbers and horn africans and khoisans | ||
| Yahoo First Time Poster Username: Yahoo Post Number: 1 Registered: 08-2005 Rating: N/A |
how do you post picture's? | ||
| Kola Moderator Username: Kola Post Number: 2073 Registered: 02-2005 Rating: N/A |
NOTE FROM KOLA: I have NO PROBLEM with posters (1) disagreeing with me (2) calling me names like "bitch", "African bootyscratcher", etc. THAT IS FINE....but let's relate it to the TOPIC being discussed and not make it a part of the I HATE KOLA type threads that attack my mother, origins, etc. Everyone here has FREEDOM to tell me off, totally disagree...Cynique, Moonsigns and others have done so for YEARS. But please---"cuss me out" regarding the TOPIC being discussed. | ||
| Afroamerican Newbie Poster Username: Afroamerican Post Number: 12 Registered: 08-2005 Rating: N/A |
Those people Kola posted are descedants of the Bantu and not "Negro"! Negro is the SPANISH word for Black and is a very insultive term to Afro-Americans! Lastly (although I enjoy reading the posters go back and forth on the "colorism" and "who's African" issue) but these discussions are truly is FRUITLESS! ***MOST people believe "African" means a person indeginous to Africa with a tribe, family, customs, etc ***Some believe "African" means anyone born in Africa (arabs, whites, indians included) ***Others like Kola believe anyone NAPPY HEADED or that you can see some African features on them is "African". I think "Blackness" and "Africaness" is more of an opinion than Fact: (here's some example of some of the confusion) -------------------------------------- KOLA: T-Boz is African (despite her light skinn) because she still has her African hair! ANOTHER POSTER: Blacks are anybody with the right ATTITUDE no matter if they are creamy white/high yells to blue black. As long as they respect their African ancestry! KOLA: Blacks don't come in all colors! That's Multiracial bullshit! That's just an excuse to breed out African blood! Blacks are fudge brown to black skinned! ME: then how are nappy headed light skinned women still Blacks? What about the Yam Yam Africans? What about all the light skinned Africans that look like T-boz and Red fox and Jill Scott kola has spoke about??? ------------------------------------- ANOTHER POSTER: I see Halle Berry and Mariah Carey as Black! They got Black blood like me and nobody's pure anything. If they consider themselves Black I have no problem with it! KOLA: These people aint' Black! Black Americans are raised on the slave masters' One Drop rule system. I take offense that these folks can get the same privelges my Black children get! They are the White woman's children. They are not my Babies. They are not African children like Black Americans. African women still see Black American as their "lost" children. ME: Why would Black Americans NOT have the same LOVE for Halle Berry or Mariah Carey (2 women with their blood) that African women have for them?? Halle Berry is 1 generation REMOVED from her AA parent. Afro-Americans are what, like 300 years REMOVED FROM AFRICA? Do Black Americans not also have MOTHERING instincts and "bloodberries" in which all of her offspring (no matter their complexion or hair texture) she will always recognize them as HER'S (B/C they comem from her)? Is this "mothering feeling" EXCLUSIVE to the African woman only??? Heck I often hear fellow Afro-Americans telling me all the time that they can see the "Black" in Mariah Carey! ........Just like MY EYES see Halle Berry, Tiger Woods, etc looking "all Black", the African woman sees me as look "completely African". This is unavoidable. Black Americans have the standard of "ancestry/HISTORY" to measure their "own" just like Africans have the standard of "hair texture". AA's will not shoe Mariah Carey away as non-Black simply because her hair is straight just like the African woman will not shoe Beyonce or Tisha Campbell away because of a yellow compelxion! This is a mothering instinct! (I hope was clear enough about the CONFUSION we are having between African vs. Black standards). | ||
| Tonya "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Tonya Post Number: 189 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
My opinion Some African Americans try to pass anything off as being black because they believe that real black people are ugly and less than human. There is no way that a black person who is happy with blackness would consider somebody like Mariah Carey as black. You have to hate blackness in order to do that. The reason why I say this is simply because she’s not black. I’m not making it up, SHE’S NOT BLACK. So why would people try to make her into something she’s not? That’s the question that should be asked. In addition, Halle Berry, Jasmine Guy and people like them are not black and people like Vanessa Williams and Beyounce are far from authentic blackness. Some people just want them to be considered full black because they feel that these people are an improvement to true blackness. I believe that those blacks and African Americans who are authentic and have a HEALTHY OUT-LOOK on blackness, should be the ones who determine what’s black. It should NOT be left to those who hate blackness. That’s worse than leaving it to those who aren’t black at all. I would trust a white person first--- a racist one at that, because we all know that there is no one worse than one who hates his/her self. My opinion Tonya | ||
| Tonya "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Tonya Post Number: 190 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
Some people just want them to be considered full black because they feel that these people are an improvement to true blackness. Improvement to true blackness---better looking and more human. Tonya | ||
| Tonya "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Tonya Post Number: 191 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
Anotherthing: If I sound like Kola Boof then please forgive me because it's not intentional. Kola Boof echoes my thoughts....I don't echo hers. This women speaks what every day black people think. We feel EXACTLY as she does about many of the issues concerning black people. The ONLY difference between Kola Boof and every day black people is that she had the courage to say it first. But I swear on my grandmother's grave that I felt this way loooong before I even heard of Kola Boof. It's honestly my opinion. Tonya | ||
| Afroamerican Newbie Poster Username: Afroamerican Post Number: 14 Registered: 08-2005 Rating: N/A |
Yes, I do believe this is more of a matter of opinion. For example I find myself seeing Halle Berry or Mariah Carey as BLACKER than Thandie Newton. Not because of their skin color but because they do have SOME kind of roots/hertiage in the Afro-American experience! Listening to Thandie Newton with an English accent sometimes makes me forget her African apperance! Either way, Black people do seem to have a hard time of "letting go" of "lost children". And if they do "let go" it seems to be because of some REJECTION and not appearance, differences, time, etc. my .02cent | ||
| Tonya "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Tonya Post Number: 192 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
But that's the problem--- as African Americans we allow anybody to be us. These people(Carey and Berry) seem blacker because we've allowed them to be African Americans. Their culturally black---but it doesn't mean that they're black. Emenen is culturally black but we don't allow him to claim blackness and the reason why is because he is a man---black men would not go for that, but they have no problem allowing any woman who wants to claim blackness to do so. Why? Think about it. They worship white female beauty. Tonya | ||
| Tonya "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Tonya Post Number: 193 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
We have a hard time letting go because the men worship white female beauty and the women have no self-esteem and zero self worth. It has nothing to do with a mother letting go of lost children because their not her children to begin with. They're culturally black---not black. | ||
| Africanqueen "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Africanqueen Post Number: 196 Registered: 02-2005 Rating: N/A |
Kola, The negro people are also from the country of Africa called nigger, right? I think that is what it's called. But these are wonderful pictures of west African people. Their women are very muscular compared to the east African women.. how lucky  AfroAmerican, Kola knows her away around Africa. Trust me . | ||
| Africanqueen "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Africanqueen Post Number: 197 Registered: 02-2005 Rating: N/A |
Niger, the country... | ||
| Africanqueen "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Africanqueen Post Number: 198 Registered: 02-2005 Rating: N/A |
Negro is not a bad word. It is a group of people in Africa. The white man had no other word to identify these people, so he called them negros or niggers... I could be wrong, but I've been thinking of the country Niger in west Africa and then the Negro people Kola has mentioned. | ||
| Africanqueen "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Africanqueen Post Number: 199 Registered: 02-2005 Rating: N/A |
Somaliboy: mothafucka africa is not only negro and nilotic what about berbers and horn africans and khoisans Me: Chill boy, damn... Can you say, please? LOL... All you have to do is ask nicely and she will do it for you. But now that you've cursed her out, I don't think she'll have the time to show you your people;). Kola, Good job woman . | ||
| Blkamericanking Veteran Poster Username: Blkamericanking Post Number: 51 Registered: 08-2005 Rating: N/A |
Don't waste time with Somaliboy, he's just a Warlord looking for attention...LOL | ||
| Kola Moderator Username: Kola Post Number: 2078 Registered: 02-2005 Rating: N/A |
I feel insulted hearing all these people claim that "NEGRO" is degrading to African Americans. They need to get over their self hatred. They're transferring their self-hatred onto the word "negro".....sort of like they do when they act as if "charcoal" or "blue black" are derogatory terms. It's truly...truly amazing...how different words like "blue black" sound to Africans who were always free...as oppposed to Africans who have been ENSLAVED. The ENSLAVED Africans place "shame" on anything that describes blackness. Am I the only one who notices this? If the word NEGRO (which is simply Spanish for "black") were a bad word.....there would have been no need for WHITES to invent, "nigger"----which really is the evil word. Egypt is GREEK for "Black". Sudan is Arabic for "Black". Ethiopia is GREEK for "Black". | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Kola: The way I see it: Black folks in America should be able to take on or reject whatever title we please. Here are the reasons why. OUR history (black folks who are currently in America via slavery roots) have such a unique history, whereas names and labels were GIVEN to and FORCED upon us for years and years. We were called colored, negro, black, african american...what next? Personally I call myself black because I think african american is very innacurate for about 90% of ANY black people who has roots in america because whether we like it or not WE ARE NOT PURE AFRICAN. I don't care how dark your skin is. That is why there is so much confusion when you say african american when speaking about a black american and an actual african that has gained citizenship in american. We are two classifications of people! However,we should be able to call ourselves whatever we please (for a change). | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
One more thing... Kola I think there is a disconnect between you and black americans in certain ways. I don't think you were in America during the pre Civil Rights era. I wasn't even born yet, maybe you weren't either. But you should not judge the black american for rejecting the term negro because it was used as the more professional name for nigger. You were not there Kola, so you cannot know. My grandmother tells me about the "old" days in america and believe me it was nothing nice and I think we as a people (over here) want to define ourselves. WE never named ourselves "negro". WE never named ouselves "colored". But we did call ourselves "Black". We did name ourselves "african american",albeit innacurate. You just don't have the frame of reference that people over here have. Although I wasn't even born during this time, I have a mother, father, grands and all who remind me. So, I understand. | ||
| Kola Moderator Username: Kola Post Number: 2079 Registered: 02-2005 Rating: N/A |
We did name ourselves "african american",albeit innacurate. You are created from the blood of more than 200 African tribes that were brought to this country in chains and forced to mix. So how is it innaccurate that you should call yourself African? The Nigerian-American, the Ethiopian-American, the Sudanese-American.......they all know what country they came from. You do not. But you do know that 200 African tribes from Mandinka to Ashanti to Wolof to Zulu are what you are made of. Therefore, you must represent your ancestors by adopting the name African. The word "African"....is far more accurate in describing you......than the word "American" is. Next Up Nobody in America uses the term "Negro" anymore, so it's really a non-issue. Additionally....NO ONE HAS ASKED YOU TO START USING THE TERM AGAIN. What I am fight you about....is destroying the images of those people in history, Langston Hughes, Zora Hurston, the NAACP, Marcus Garvey-----who appreciated the ACTUAL meaning of the word and were PROUD to call themselves Negroes and stood up to symbolize the true meaning of that word. You don't have the right to DEHUMANIZE them all over again---just because you have an inferiority complex. __________ And as for the rest of your claims that I just don't know about "YOUR PEOPLE"---- I'm a historian, Anonymous. And I was raised by Southern Black Americans whose life histories are etched in my mind. And I'm not ASKING PERMISSION to challenge the self-hatred and self-destruction in Black Americans.... ....I'm CHALLENGING and ATTACKING IT----because the reality is---I am also a Black American now. Whatever choices YOUR PEOPLE make and whatever you do you------directly impacts MY PEOPLE in Africa as you have all the influence in the world. Snoop Dogg is teaching millions of young African boys to be Pimps, to hate women and to flaunt their low self-esteem by wearing their pants hanging off their asses. So I will not accept this bastardization of the word "NEGRO". When you say "NEGRO"---you are talking about WEST AFRICA and all those whose PHENOTYPE is "negroid". They are beautiful...not disgraceful. | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
First off: Africa is a place. No? Why don't you have people in Belize, Jamaica, and other places calling themselves African Jamaicans, etc? I am not saying that we do not have african bloodlines.... We have other bloodlines as well. That's why I prefer to CALL MYSELF Black. Kola, this is just a cultural difference that we have. I am not trying to divorce myself from africa in anyway. You just don't see it, but I understand. As far as you being a historian, I have one better...I have lived the shit all of my life and I have family as living witnesses of the shit I talk about. As far a what MY PEOPLE call themselves impacting africans... Look, Kola. Black Americans has been hung out and left out to dry. ALL BY OUR DAMN SELVES. That that's 100% real. I love anyone with black skin actually, but in order to really break this thing down you have to start with the black american history in this country AFTER slavery. I don't want to be insensitive to africans but black americans see them come to this country, only to treat us like shit. Now, the why's of it all can be answered by you, but all I know is that I've witnessed africans treating blacks like 3rd class citizens as well as just talking about us like we're dogs. So to appeal to us about saving their "reputation" is a bit twisted. There should be more dialogue between the two of us. But that is a whole other converstation. As far as negroid being beautiful, that is not OUR point in us not calling ourselves negro. We already know it's beautiful as evidenced by simply looking in the mirror. | ||
| Tonya "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Tonya Post Number: 208 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
Hi anonymous, A hundred years from now your gr grandchildren will probably be saying the same things about the term "black". How do you feel about that? Just curious. Tonya | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
I said that I prefer to call myself "black". If they want to use another term, so be it. No matter what, they will still be black when it's all said and done. | ||
| Tonya "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Tonya Post Number: 209 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
So you think we will always be black, right? | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Yes. Am I naive? The way I see it is that black americans have been (either willingly or unwillingly) mixing with whites since we got here. And there are STILL black people here because even though it may not seem like it, BLACK FOLKS DATE AND MARRY OTHER BLACK FOLKS MORE THAN THEY DATE OR MARRY OUTSIDE THEIR RACE. And that is a fact. | ||
| Tonya "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Tonya Post Number: 210 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
I don't know if it's naive or not....to be honest with you I don't know the answer to that one myself (smile). I just wanted to get your philosophy, that's all. Tonya | ||
| Blkamericanking Veteran Poster Username: Blkamericanking Post Number: 54 Registered: 08-2005 Rating: N/A |
Anonymous, I am also Black American and i truly understand when you say we have been hung out and left out to dry all by ourselves. It makes me so damn angry when Asians, Arabs, Europeans and Latin people come to America and look down on us. Even Africans come here, get educated by the white man and start looking down on us. And as far as the word "negro", i honestly think it's not an African word and it's a word that was used to describe blacks by the Europeans. Lastly, Anonymous you must understand that Kola truly mean no harm, she really cares about Black Americans. | ||
| Chrishayden "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Chrishayden Post Number: 1388 Registered: 03-2004 Rating: N/A |
Blkamericanking: And who do you think they are learning this from? | ||
| Blkamericanking Veteran Poster Username: Blkamericanking Post Number: 55 Registered: 08-2005 Rating: N/A |
Chrishayden, They are learning it from White Americans and it must be stopped. Those immigrants need to start using their common sense. | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Blkamericanking: I disagree with you about immigrants learning to treat us like shit from whites. First off, from my experiences (and I have many) the immigrants I've encountered say some real fucked up things on their own. A lot of black americans really don't know very much about africans either, but we tend to not say fucked up thing to them. Actually, they get jobs and live amounst us and we don't trip at all. I've heard africans and other black immigrants call us lazy while continuing to brag that they have a "home". I've had to remind a couple of them that black americans "laziness" has enable their asses to even be over here, taking up jobs and going to school. There would be no university to attend had we not fought and got our asses literally kicked so that EVERYONE with black skin could get a fair shake over here. It's just a respect thing. | ||
| Chrishayden "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Chrishayden Post Number: 1391 Registered: 03-2004 Rating: N/A |
Anonymous: Boy you are full of it. Obviously you want bend over backwards to let white people off the hook. Who else would they be learning that from? Would we tell them that on ourselves--I dunno maybe from some of what I've seen on this board. Furthermore even if they didn't it would be obvious to them Black Americans don't let them in the country. White folks let them in the country. All these people want to get on the winning team and when they get here they quickly find out which one it is. | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
ChrisyHayden: I am not letting white folks off of the hook. Do you realize the images that whites have put in black americans heads about africans? They told us that they were wild heathens that lived in jungles. But even still, black americans do not insult them as to tell them that dumd shit to hurt them. You can learn whatever you want from the white man, but when you encounter actual situations, you have to stop playing dumb. I already know that WE did not let them in this country, but I don't remember seeing their asses marching in droves along side of Martin Luther King,et al. They didn't want to come over here when we were getting our asses kicked. MY grandfather (along with other black americans) was assulted at voting registration's meetings. MY father was jeered at for being among the first black (although light skinned) person at his high school. Dude...get the fuck out of here and stop playing. As far as them being on the "winning team"....boy are you an unimaginable asshole. The "winning team" are the folks who were partly sold-out by their own and survived the middle passage. The "winning team" are the folks who got killed and bombed for organizing to vote and even attend schools with white folks. So that ALL blacks could have it better. YOU, my friend must have YOUR head up white people's asses. since you condone these immigrants ass kissing and grinning up the white man's butt. But don't let me stop you, carry on. | ||
| Anunaki3600 AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Anunaki3600 Post Number: 79 Registered: 04-2005 Rating: N/A |
Before any immigrant reaches the shores of the U.S.A., they have already been influenced by Hollywood in regards to race relations in the US. Hollywood has reached every town and village globally since the 60's and spread their racist views regarding Blacke people in the US. Whether you come from Romania, Korea, Bhutan, Tibet or the Congo, hollywoods' venom has poisoned the minds of many ignorant people who view Black people in the US as what Hollywood want them to view that as gang-bangers, drug dealers, pimps, etc. This is now being re-enforced by Rap videos globally. Even though ignorance cannot be excused but one must understand that hollywood and media do play a VERY powerfull role in creating false perceptions and attitude among billions of people globally. The main issue is how can WE remove the white KKK HOOD that is covering hollywoods head?????? | ||
| Blkamericanking Veteran Poster Username: Blkamericanking Post Number: 56 Registered: 08-2005 Rating: N/A |
Anunaki3600, I agree with you 100%. Africans know more about Black Americans than we know about them, and unfortunately the media has shown the world the NEGATIVE side of Black America. So, when immigrants come over here they want nothing to do with us. African immigrants must understand that they make themselves look very stupid for disrespecting Black Americans because the media has also shown the world nothing but negativity about Africa. We must be in control of our own image, so that we can show the world the POSITIVE side of Black America. | ||
| Anunaki3600 AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Anunaki3600 Post Number: 81 Registered: 04-2005 Rating: N/A |
Africans and African-Americans are in the same boat. We either sail together or sink together. Both communities, whether in the US or Africa, have to deal with our poor image being described to the rest of the world by the same media. I put the blame right on the elite of our two communities who have the resources to do otherwise. Our elite have totally bought-up white supremacy ideals and are willing to sell the rest of us for "a fist full of dollars", just like Judas. Change in the two communities has always come from the lower middle class and poor who when pushed to the wall have nothing to loose. A-luta-continua........... | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Anunaki3600: >>Whether you come from Romania, Korea, Bhutan, Tibet or the Congo, hollywoods' venom has poisoned the minds of many ignorant people who view Black people in the US as what Hollywood want them to view that as gang-bangers, drug dealers, pimps, etc. >> While this may be true, it is still no excuse to hold on to ignorance once you have lived in this country and rubbed elbows with black who are not pimps, lazy, drug dealers, hoodlums, etc. There is NO excuse for this shit. I am sorry. I cannot blame the white man for ignorance that is continued even AFTER you come to this country and see the GAINS that black americans alone have achieved. Sorry. | ||
| Tonya "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Tonya Post Number: 218 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
My opinion: When I see footage of the civil rights movement I see very African looking negros being hosed dowm, harrassed by the police, and having dogs sikked on them. I know that other negros were involved in the movement, but when it came to the dirty work- the blood sweat and tears- it was the authenticly African looking negros who were getting their asses whoooped. So, when we point out how these "immigrants" benefit from our struggles yet they disrespect us when they come over here, I think it is those negros who are turning over in their graves (the Authenticly African looking ones). Therefore, the AAs who feel a sense of closeness to those deceased negros should be the ones who have the right to complain and feel the most insulted. When I hear a bunch of AAs who have a problem with the word "negro" talk about how they feel insulted by the "immigrants" I wonder if they have the right to feel that way. Also, I don't think it's a coincidence that the AAs who don't have a problem with the word "negro" and feel close to the negro people are the ones most willing to work with our brothers and sisters from Africa--or as some of you choose to call them:"THE IMMIGRANTS". Yeah, whatever--Just like how we are now being refered to as, "THE REFUGEES". And yes, I know the neaning of the word "refugee" I just don't approve of us being called that by white America. Tonya | ||
| Tonya "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Tonya Post Number: 219 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
We built this country -- we should always have a country -- a home! Tonya | ||
| Tonya "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Tonya Post Number: 220 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
And yes, we were "black" during the movement, but many still proudly considered themselves negros. Tonya | ||
| Kola_boof "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Kola_boof Post Number: 478 Registered: 02-2005 Rating: N/A |
Here's a shocker, folks: http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus/messages/2152/7071.html?1125507779 | ||
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Tonya: >>but when it came to the dirty work- the blood sweat and tears- it was the authenticly African looking negros who were getting their asses whoooped.>> I am 100% sure that was just the "footage" that you saw. There were not just dark skinned blacks who could not vote and wanted to. There were not just dark skinned blacks whose sons would get pulled out of their homes and hung. There were not just dark skinned folks who could not drink out of the "whites only" fountain. There were not just dark skinned folks who got their asses beat. THIS IS NOT A LIGHT SKIN DARK SKIN ISSUE, HONEY. AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE IT ONE. >>So, when we point out how these "immigrants" benefit from our struggles yet they disrespect us when they come over here, I think it is those negros who are turning over in their graves (the Authenticly African looking ones>> I think they would roll over in their graves at the way africans talk shit about black americans. >>Therefore, the AAs who feel a sense of closeness to those deceased negros should be the ones who have the right to complain and feel the most insulted. >> The ones who "feel" a closeness?? With all due respect, this shit don't make any fucking sense. Oh...let me guess, the "dark skinned, lowely women" are the only ones who should complain. Get the fuck out of here. "Feeling" ain't the issue. It's about whose blood is in this country's soil. And I can tell you for damn sure that my family's (along with other black american's of ALL fucking complexions) blood is. >>When I hear a bunch of AAs who have a problem with the word "negro" talk about how they feel insulted by the "immigrants" I wonder if they have the right to feel that way.>> READ MY KETSTROKES::: Black americans can feel WHATEVER way we damn so please and will call ourselves whatever we damn well please as well. >>Yeah, whatever--Just like how we are now being refered to as, "THE REFUGEES".>> I assume you are referring to the people who are victims of the hurricane....They are indeed REFUGEES!!!! They have been forced out of their homes because of circumstances and trying to relocate for emergency help. | ||
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Kola: I knew this magazine was going to launch. I think the term "new negro" is a term coined by a black american man circa early 1900's. Hence, the word "new". Personally, I wish them the best, but many magazine publications have it really hard and find it difficult to continue publishing. Hopefully they can get subscriptions, which are the life blood of any magazine's lifespan. | ||
| Tonya "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Tonya Post Number: 222 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
Previosly posted: There were not just dark skinned folks who got their asses beat. THIS IS NOT A LIGHT SKIN DARK SKIN ISSUE, HONEY. AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE IT ONE ME: Show me a footage where a bunch of light-skinned/mixed blacks are getting beat-down and it won't be a light skin dark skin issue, OK??? The rest of the shit you posted ain't even worth a response.... So go fuck yourself! Tonya | ||
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To:"Tonya" or whatever alises: >>Show me a footage where a bunch of light-skinned/mixed blacks are getting beat-down and it won't be a light skin dark skin issue, OK???>> Are you from the motherland? You are sounding a little immigrant-ish. LOL If you were indeed from america you would know that what I have said is 100% facts. There is no use trying to further pit us black americans against one another. A black american person, whether dark skinned or light skinned will ALWAYS have more in common and will ALWAYS dwell together. We've been through tooo much shit together in this country. But we still love ya'll though. (LOL). >>The rest of the shit you posted ain't even worth a response.... So go fuck yourself!>> Sorry, I got a man who is taking on that job QUITE WELL. Thanks.LOL | ||
| Tonya "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Tonya Post Number: 223 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
SHOW ME THE F-O-O-T-A-G-E.... And in the words of my friend Snoop Dog, "I don't luv you HO!" Skank-ho-ass-bitch! Tonya | ||
| Tonya "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Tonya Post Number: 224 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
Who do those "REFUGEES" look more like -- you or Africa?? Which brings me back to my origional point: As far as you and I are concerned, WE are not insulted until I say we're insulted. AND THAT'S REAL! Tonya | ||
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"Tonya" >>SHOW ME THE F-O-O-T-A-G-E.... And in the words of my friend Snoop Dog, "I don't luv you HO!" Skank-ho-ass-bitch!>> "Tonya" don't be cross. If you go to the department of immigration and naturalization I'm sure they'll hook you up with some papers... As for me and my black american brothers and sisters, we'll handle out OWN business. Thanks for your help though. Wow, you listen to snoop dog? I thought you were pissed off that he was messing it up for african's reputation? LOL Girl give it up, you are fooling no one...you need to be thinking about your kids. | ||
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>>As far as you and I are concerned, WE are not insulted until I say we're insulted.>> A fucking african is calling shots among black americans now? Girl, girl, girl. You're funny. | ||
| Tonya "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Tonya Post Number: 225 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
SHOW -- ME -- THE -- MUTHA -- FUCKIN-- FOOTAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU GOT MY NUMBER BITCH! TONYA | ||
| Tonya "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Tonya Post Number: 226 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
BTW, BITCH -- YOU'RE RIGHT.... YOU'RE NOT AFRICAN -- BUT I AM... NOW, WHERE'S THE FOOTAGE BITCH??? TONYA | ||
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>>BTW, BITCH -- YOU'RE RIGHT.... YOU'RE NOT AFRICAN -- BUT I AM...>> I figured that you were. And I KNOW that I am not. My black brothers and sisters and I are not african. That's already known. Check the bloodlines, here in america. >>NOW, WHERE'S THE FOOTAGE BITCH???>> Oh, I'll have to email it to you. I archived all the footage of light skinned black people getting their asses beat. Silly hoe. | ||
| Tonya "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Tonya Post Number: 227 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
Previously posted: Oh, I'll have to email it to you. I archived all the footage of light skinned black people getting their asses beat. ME: THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.... SO LIKE I SAID: YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO FUCK YOURSELF! TONYA | ||
| Tonya "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Tonya Post Number: 228 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
BTW: MY ANCESTORS CAME HERE IN CHAINS FROM AFRICA.... MY GR-GR-GR GRANDMOTHER WAS A FULL BLOODED SLAVE.... MY MOTHER WAS AN AMERICAN NEGRO.... I AM AFRICAN AMERICAN.... SO YES -- I AM AFRICAN!!! TONYA | ||
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Tonya: >>MY ANCESTORS CAME HERE IN CHAINS FROM AFRICA.... MY GR-GR-GR GRANDMOTHER WAS A FULL BLOODED SLAVE>> Yea, sure she was. (wink, wink). LOL | ||
| Tonya "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Tonya Post Number: 229 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
WE'RE THROUGH, BITCH.... GOOD NIGHT! TONYA | ||
| Tonya "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Tonya Post Number: 230 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
MY BAD -- I MEANT TO SAY -- YOU'RE THROUGH! GOOD NIGHT! | ||
| Tonya "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Tonya Post Number: 234 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
"Check the bloodlines, here in america." Tonya: We do have one drop of "master's" blood but the one drop rule doesn't apply to us--it was made to throw throwaways in our corner. These throwaways are now becoming a nuisance though, because they somehow got it in their minds that the bloodlines are now blurred. A non-throwaway, however, can see how this is nonesence since black America is almost completely dark skinned with nappy heads and full features. They look exactly like what we're currently witnessing in the news...... that is black america...... that's who we are. So, yes, I checked the bloodlines and the lines say that we're more African than anything else. The differences between us and our family in Africa are cultural differences -- the only thing that you and others have in commen with us is our culture. Therefore, when it comes to supporting Africa who do you think we're going to side with; our family (our blood) or someone who we were forced to share our culture with? If it's either them or you -- sorry! I do unerstand your position though...... white people don't want you and black people don't love you like their own...... it must be a tough. So for that reason you can stay with us for as long as we're willing, but just remember that OUR BLOOD will always come first -- you're lucky you're even coming at all. OK....... now you can go fuck yourself....... you really are through this time. Tonya | ||
| Kola Moderator Username: Kola Post Number: 2088 Registered: 02-2005 Rating: N/A |
DAY-UMMMMMmmmmmmmm Tonya you show nO MERCY CHAL. LMBAO!!!! Whew lawd! _______ And U know what else? If so many African Immigrants weren't so "stuck up"----or so many Black Americans weren't so "scared" of their own African reflection... Black Americans would be SHOCKED at how very similar their culture STILL IS to West African Culture. It's amazing. | ||
| Tonya "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Tonya Post Number: 243 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
YOU DAMN RIGHT I HAD NO MERCY. SHE WAS SOUNDING TOO MUCH LIKE ONE OF THEM -- NOT ONE OF US. NOW'S NOT THE TIME FOR THAT -- I WAS MAD. TONYA | ||
| kool Unregistered guest Rating: N/A |
wow...im suprised to see this online....Kola Boof the moderator...is actually the Kola Boof novelist/womanist.....????? please say no.... i found so many flaws on this post ...since im a 2nd yr student at uni studying genetics tech... basic evolution...the OOA theory..out of africa theory ... all humans orginated in Africa....East Africa... And then dispersed throughout africa and then to Asia And lastely EUROPE.... Technically speaking there is no set FACIAL FEATURES... THAT ARE STANDARD NEGROID/AFROCIOD... The West ..19th century pseudo-scientist.. Coons and et al... categorized afrocans based on morphology and classified the skulls and bone structures closest to europeans as racially mixed...WHICH IS FALSE..as we KNOW WITH GENETICS and EVOLUTION (adaption--> desert/jungle ect.) Classiying features as NEGROID because there indignious to a cetain region.....IS THE WESTERN LOGIC...THE SUPPOSIDLY SISTER KOLA IS TRYING TO DIMINISH..... INVASION OF AFRICA AND ENSLAVEMENT IS SO RECENT...1000 yrs.... racial purity is non-existant...HOWEVER AFRICANS CENTRAL EAST WEST SOUTH...ARE THE PURIST Humans CONSIDERING THERE THE FIRST TO EMERGE.... AND WHATS GOING ON IN SUDAN....IS A RESULT OF ARABIZATION...JUST AS LATIN AMERICA IS A RESULT OF THE SPANIORDS COLONIZATION... MANY PPL IN SUDAN NORTH OR SOUTH ARE NOT ETHNIC ARABS....ETHNIC ARABS CONSIST OF 2 tribes FOUND ONLY IN SOUTH ARABIA AND YEMEN..... MOST PPL THAT CONSIDER THEMSELVES ARABS IN SUDAN ARE NOT...THEY ARE EITHER BEJA OR NUER or other local arabised ppl of sudan.... ASIDE FROM....WHO LOOKS AFRICAN...AND WHO GOTS NAP HAIR... AFRICA AS A CONTENTITE IS THE RICHEST BUT YET THE PPL ARE THE POOREST....FORGET ARABS AND WHITES... YOU CAN BLAME THEM FOR SO LONG...HOWEVER THE SAME GOVERNANING BODIES KINGS or so ...THAT SOLD THERE PEOPLE TO EUROS/ARABS ARE THE SAME PEOPLE RIDDING THE WEALTH AND IMPOVERSHING THE PEOPLE....KOLA...YOUR CAMPAIGN FOR DELIBRATION OF BLACKS MUST BEGIN IN AFRICA ASIDE FROM THE ARAB/EURO victimazation reasoning...there so far you can go....BLACK PRESIDENTS AFRICAN PRESIDENTS AND GOVERNMENT PARTIES NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.... | ||
| Kola_boof "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Kola_boof Post Number: 502 Registered: 02-2005 Rating: N/A |
With all due respect, KOOL A ....you sound like a person with a load of history books under his arms....wading into MISSISSIPPI and ALABAMA to "lecture" the Black folks on what THEIR experience and history is. You know...very little.....about Sudan or about indigenous African peoples from the post I just read. Your summations are just that---summations. Some of the generalizations are accurate (well, except that few Black claiming to be Arabs are Nuers---most are Nubians and Hermetics-----and there is a SIZEABLE White Ethnic Arab population in Sudan (my father was one), and more than that---the WHITE Arab nations of the Middle East pull the puppet strings of Sudan, Egypt especially---RULE SUDAN---and are the reason that these people want to be Arab in the first place.) I'm not about to waste my time discussing this issue with you-----mainly because, unless you know the difference between a DINKA and a JIENG (which is the same tribe).....it's a waste of time trying to get you to see that the picture is so much more INTRICATE and has more VARIABLES than what you spelled out. B I'm an AMERICAN citizen...living in California and raising my two BLACK AMERICAN sons. I don't need to do shit for Africa! I have no campaign for "deliberation" OF ANYBODY----I do what the spirit moves me to do at any given moment---for whomever, wherever I like. You really need to READ my books to get a more accurate idea of who I am and what I'm about----because you haven't said anything about African Kings, Rulers, Presidents...that I haven't said AD INFINITUM. It's like you're preaching to the choir. And, of course----the quickest way to affect CHANGE amongst Black people anywhere on earth is to do it from America, which is the planet's chief influence and place of power. My IMMEDIATE home, set of circumstances...is HERE. | ||
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thanxs...for replying kola boof... well im sorry on my part if im just summing up everything...lol i understanding views on some topics... and you not what do what you have to do to make a contribution for the greater good whether for the disporara or the afros in the us...... 1 thing i have a extreme discuss of is ENSLAVEMENT... Obviously is not an element of LIFE TO BE PROUD OF ...OR A SHAME...but embraced... a KEY EXAMPLE ARE THE JEWS....africa/euros/s.americ/n.americ/mid east/asia..ect as 1 commonality.... hebrews...whether from different races come together unit and build a strong nitted cohesive community.... A true example for the afrs in america and elsewhere....??? do you think? it makes me furstrated to see whats going on in the states...IM UP NORTh.... and to see stravation, murder, and rape going on in 1 of the richest nations to a group (blacks) that inhabte in thows states in populis...makes me sick Kanye ..was right...bush doesn't care about blacks... When viewing such an issue of humilation and mascure...RACE PLAYS A HUGE ROLE????would u agree... whats ur take on it...yall | ||
| Kola Moderator Username: Kola Post Number: 2106 Registered: 02-2005 Rating: N/A |
TO ME, "Kool"---you and I are basically on the same page and we just have different ways of expressing the same "basic" principles. The problem with me..is that I can get off topic and go on tangents, making it appear that I'm saying something different. It comes from doing so much RESEARCH as a writer---I tend to "ramble" and bring in 10 different other things. When I write on this board....none of it COMPOSED or reviewed before I post....I just write directly into the board. _________ As for us joining with JEWISH slaves and other Non-Black enslaved people, I don't see any SOLIDARITY that unifies us. I don't recognize Multi-culturalism as a viable LIVING, COMMUNITY FORM----mainly because it's all based on a LIE that there is no "racism", no "sexism" and that humans "naturally" get along with others different from them. As my idol, Arab Egyptian Muslim Feminist writer Nawal el Sadaawi said: "The only thing that diversity does is divides us from our own people." I prefer to live in African-dominated communities with other Black People from similar backgrounds (to include all Blacks and MOST mixed blacks). I am not a Socialist. Coming from the poverty of Africa, I am a Capitalist. As a North African BLACK WOMAN....I don't support Palestine, I support Israel----because the Palestinians supported/purchased Slaves from SUDAN and have sterilized Black women for decades now. I can find a husband in racist White ISRAEL and be accepted into their racist community.....but not in Arab Muslim "brown" Palestine. | ||
| kool Unregistered guest Rating: N/A |
i see your view on certain issues... since your life journey is obviuosly unique as every single person on earth... i could care less about arabs or jews..... since my point is that though the jews in terms of culture and raciality are so different the find a common ground to meet among each other in civil.... which you made a point with the racist israelie and the arab ....i agree with u 100% blacks in the U.S... in profile share the commonality and don't divide...aside from colorism...blacks are united in the States... however...as you stated .....you came from a poor afro nation...and who aint a capitlist in the west..lol blacks should build as a strong community as a which would bring about set term resolutions....the socio-eco gap between them and the whites...WHICH SHOULD NOT EXIST...and IS A MAN MADE PROBLEM and FIXABLE!!!! so i see your take on many topics. as we know females are the back bone of society....and to our advantage...Black females are 1 of the most diverse verstail..females on the planet and could live in extreme....thats the take where the men have to meet the females half way and work on a productive strong unit..... Im pretty sure africans in and out of america would not face poverty.... Since a women cant raise a village.......... Family infrastructure is key to the success of Blacks...!!! | ||
| Aaron Sailor Unregistered guest Rating: N/A |
Tonya I agree with everything you said. However, you can't single these people out and say that just because they have the slave-masters features that they are not black. Halle Berry,and Jasmine Guy are black but Mariah Carey is only black when it is convenient. Light-skinned, dark-skinned we are all black and we need to love one-another. Many black people came out light-skinned because of non-consensual sex during the slave days. It wasn't black womens faults that they were being raped like dogs and as a result had light offspring. | ||
| truth teller Unregistered guest Rating: N/A |
I think somaliboy has a point, africa is more than just the negro people and i also think all african people are beautiful,also somali are africans and i'am african american and black people do come in all colors and to me and other people the people of the world are one race and i you maybe not believe that but to get back to the subject i also have native american blood in me so to you do this mean i can't be black | ||
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