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Chrishayden
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Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2005 - 02:55 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Most people avoid loneliness. Solitude. Boredom.

The Artist SEEKS loneliness. Solitude. Boredom.

They are the Artists' true canvass. There the Artist finds the space to CREATE!
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Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2005 - 03:24 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The artist seeks to be ALONE because in the quiet of his spirit he can better see his way clear to CREATE.

LONELINESS is too bleek and too desolate an emotion, leaving an artist cut off from the possibilities his creativity might explore.

In his solitude an artist is most at peace, finding comfort in the passions of who he is and what he brings to the table. He is content and when content, seldom bored, because boredom can breed contempt for his surroundings and his lot in life, and render him impotent to his creative self. And without the gratification from and nourishment of his creative spirit, an artist would have no use of any canvas, because he would cease to be an artist.
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Chrishayden
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Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2005 - 03:27 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You do your thang

And I'll do mine
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Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2005 - 03:33 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LOL!

What's up Chris? You're waxing philisophically one minute, pondering dryer lint the next.

Writer's block got you by the finger?
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Chrishayden
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Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2005 - 04:25 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I contradict myself? Very well--I contradict myself.

I contain multitudes!
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Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2005 - 04:56 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Contradict? Not at all. More of a wafting of a restless spirit from point to point, or should I say, post to post or thread to thread?

And to paraphrase DH Lawrence, "you have an air of easy aplomb and good humour which is so becoming to a man, and which he only acquires when he is cock of his own little walk..."
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Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2005 - 05:07 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Babygirl, it was Kola Boof who got Chris Hayden's first book published and they are close friends. You've been Kola's biggest attacker, so I'm sure Hayden's loyalty is to Kola and probably tries to say as little to you as possible.



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Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2005 - 10:46 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I see that I am being censored. Now pray tell, resident She-ro, what could I have possibly said to Slow Poke that got your nipples in a knot this time that would warrent you to push the delete button yet again?
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Roxie
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Posted on Friday, July 22, 2005 - 08:29 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

--Most people avoid loneliness. Solitude. Boredom.

The Artist SEEKS loneliness. Solitude. Boredom.

They are the Artists' true canvass. There the Artist finds the space to CREATE!--


I guess that's YOUR artist. MY artist just wants to do her own thing and resist the usual artist cliche's.
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Chrishayden
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Posted on Friday, July 22, 2005 - 01:30 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Slow Poke:

Not even close. Try again.
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Chrishayden
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Posted on Saturday, July 23, 2005 - 11:37 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I am disappointed--

Nobody recognized the "You do your thang" quote from Clarence Carter's "Mr. Penguin" or the "Multitudes" quote from "Song of Myself" by Whitman.

Review, students! Review! Review!

Babygirl:

Ya gotta suffer.

No pain no gain

Read Dashiell Hammett's first three novels and you are reading the work of a man who was certain he was dying of Tuberculosis.
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Posted on Saturday, July 23, 2005 - 12:01 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

zzzzzzz. Students? Are you a professor? Or an authority? And who says a writer has to suffer? That's a romanticized myth. Hammett's success could've been inspired by the stimulating companionship of Lillian Hellman.
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Posted on Saturday, July 23, 2005 - 01:42 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

As he sat in the library turning pages, stopping now and again to study the illustrations in old encyclopedias, rereading Turgenev's novels from cover to cover, he was able to block out the buzz of the city; he was surrounded by silence, just as he was on trains. Even after dark, when he would go by another route, walking in front of the Jewish Historical museum and the length of the River Main; even on weekends, when he walked from one end of the city to the other, this silence still enveloped him.

"Four years ago these silences took over my entire life. I needed noise -- it was only by shutting out noise that I was able to write poetry," said Ka. "But now I lived in utter silence. I wasn't speaking with any Germans, and my relations with the Turks weren't good either -- they dismissed me as a half-crazed, effete intellectual. I wasn't seeing anyone, I wasn't talking to anyone, and I wasn't writing poems."
-- Orhan Pamuk, Snow

Babygirl mentioned silence and solitude, as in John Wideman's story The Silence of Thelonious Monk -- an introvert's introvert whose life, as in the example above, may have been taken over by silence (although I don't know).
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Posted on Saturday, July 23, 2005 - 08:53 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ChrisHayden: Babygirl, Ya gotta suffer. No pain no gain.

Babygirl: Reminds me of that line from The Five Heartbeats, "Donald Matthews will be a great writer when he has suffered more..."

I would imagine that in some instances, the primary determinant of which sensation is considered which comes from your own value system, and your own interpretations of what is going on around you. There is but a fine line that comes between pleasure and pain, and sometimes your mind will tell you that something is hurting you, even as other parts of your being are thoroughly enjoying what is going on, wherein what you are experiencing is pleasure in its ultimate form and really not pain at all.

With respect to my own artistic endeavors though, I firmly believe, pain will stifle your greatness, while pleasure will lift you up and help you to soar. But then, that's MY thang!

But I look forward to reading Dashiell Hammett and perhaps, changing my mind.
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Posted on Saturday, July 23, 2005 - 09:23 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I didn't know you were an artist Babygirl.

What do you do?

Are you amateur or professionally connected?

Me--I'm a couch potato who likes to live vicariously through others.






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Babygirl
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Posted on Saturday, July 23, 2005 - 09:36 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

There are those who may not agree, Slow Poke, but I consider myself a writer, and although I am published many times over, I am still learning...
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Posted on Saturday, July 23, 2005 - 09:50 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Please don't take offence Babygirl, but I thought you were so much younger and possibly law enforcement or stripper.

Glad to hear that you do writing. That's admirable, but why would people not consider you a writer if you published so many books? Are they not stuck-uppy liter type stuff?





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Posted on Saturday, July 23, 2005 - 10:13 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No offense taken at all, in fact I find your assumptions - that I am either an old bootie-shakin' mama or an ancient pistol-packing gun slinger with a badge, quite amusing. Reinforces the benefits of anonimity...but that stripper-thing might be interesting...I wonder what Big Daddy would think about installing a pole and some mirrors in the bedroom...

And with respect to my writing, there are those who love it and those who hate it, which is the case for all of us who dare to do what we love and then put ourselves out there for public review.

And although I appreciate your questions and interest in my writing, under the guise of "Babygirl", I come to this space NOT to promote myself or to discuss my books but to simply enjoy the challenge of an interesting exchange with those who may share interests similar to my own.
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Blackangel
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Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 07:25 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dearest Chris,
I am an artist and fascinated by what you said about the artist being alone. I read once that solitude is the key to one's soul and in solitude it is where we "the artist" find time to find ourselves. Much luck to you in this life. My family thinks that because I often want to be alone it is due to be being depressed. It's just the opposite though I love it, because I am able to take time out for "me".
Peace
It's good to know that someone else thinks like me.
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Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 08:34 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

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