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Posted on Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 10:30 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So it seems sports and white women don't mix
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Posted on Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 07:52 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

They do mix. The scandal train is speeding down the tracks. I really like Tiger's game but why would anyone think Tiger would deal with anyone but a white woman? He after all is a "cableasian"LOL

Rumor has it Tiger's wife went off because of his affair with this woman:


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Posted on Monday, November 30, 2009 - 08:56 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh well, at least he has taste for decent looking women. Can't hate on him for that.....
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Posted on Tuesday, December 01, 2009 - 10:36 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh well, at least he has taste for decent looking women. Can't hate on him for that.....

"She looks like a skank.

What a dope-- getting ready to lose millions in endorsements in addition to possibly losing his golf mojo--imagine having to pull out of his own tournament in embarassment.

Is this the end of the Obama of Golf?"

They do mix.

"Ask OJ Simpson and Steve McNair"

He after all is a "cableasian

"He couldn't find an Asian? Or a Cableasian? He's getting ready to fork over big time"
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Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 06:33 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No Chris, she looks like a wrinkled snake skank, with fake lips and fake eyelashes and fake ass hair. Check out her wrist. On that wrinkled mess, there appears to be a serpant.

Can we talk about one man's GARBAGE is another man's....!?
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Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 09:37 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrityn...ng-you-2009212

stupid stupid stupid
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Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 10:36 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Can we talk about one man's GARBAGE is another man's....!?

(Either that or how One Man's Leftovers is another man's feast--wasn't that a song?)

I knew a gal who looked like the broad in the picture once. I found out she didn't wash her hands after she did the #2--habitually.

I guess we can add that to the list of Uncle Chrissies turnoffs.

By the way, have any of you heard the phone messsage that Tiger left with his main squeeze about how she should quit leaving her name on the phone messages because his wife found it?

This shows the drawbacks of a narrow education--his daddy should have told him something about women while he was teaching him golf--or he should have consulted some experienced playa--like CAREY! (he has replaced Rabbit as my playa guru)
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Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 02:02 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This is a lesson learned from his colorstruck daddy. The "nasty" half breed minions of these self-loathing Negroes(like Nels) are now starting to learn a "hard lesson". BTW didn't 'ole' pops have a White mistress that he kept on the side himself for 25 years while married to his Asian mother??

I guess these "Black men" just won't learn. Kobe, Tiger etc. Notice the marriages between these rich Black men and there blonde trophy wives are always a disaster. I guess these black men aren't fooling anyone but themselves.

And it is always with these stripperish looking White women.

SHAME ON YOU TIGER, KOBE!!
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Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 03:17 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

But then again this is what happens when a Black multimillionaire marries a NANNY and screws around on her with a stripper.

Or when a multimillionaire Black men marries a high school dropout and screws around on her with a prostitute.
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Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 03:42 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ouch! Serenasailor is bringing it today. This really tore me up... "The "nasty" half breed minions of these self-loathing Negroes(like"


Ouuuuuweeeee, Serenasailor is on today!
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Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 09:21 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Serenasailor, your last post was interesting. But the issue is really one of class and the standards you have.

Your average middle class, Brother with common sense would actually marry a woman of a higher caliber than a Tiger Woods.

It is not like a Brother gets some money and then starts trolling the trailer park for babies... It is where Toger was when here started. The same goes for his predilection for white meat. Tiger's taste preceeded his money; the money was not the cause (in case you were making that implication).
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Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 09:32 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Tiger's taste preceeded his money; the money was not the cause"

Troy, I am so proud of you. Although we don't want to go there today (I don't think), your comment is right down the alley of drug & alcohol addiction. The substance is not the cause of the problem.

I knew sooner or later you were going to agree with me. *LOL*
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Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 10:43 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Carey we were bound to agree on something sooner or later. But, if you like, I can change my position and agrue with if that will make you feel more confortable.



Someone emailed this too me a few moments ago. I actually gasped the first instant I saw the photo before relaizing it was a joke.
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Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 10:45 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LOL @ Ntfs_encryption. Man, I don't think anyone got your joke about; "taste for decent looking women". You were joking... right?
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Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 10:46 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Notice the marriages between these rich Black men and there blonde trophy wives are always a disaster.

(There was this old undertaker I knew who I really hated because he was running the church I went to (good source of bodies and funerals--I mean you are right there)and he was a hypocrite and a gangster and evil man but I remember he told me--with some relish as he did when he was shattering someone's youthful illusions) that down south when a black man was successful the white folks would force him to marry a white ex prostitute and take care of her--hmm.

"The same goes for his predilection for white meat. Tiger's taste preceeded his money; the money was not the cause (in case you were making that implication)."

I think you are right on this. The money just made it possible for him to engage his prediliction. This is gonna cost him plenty--which is the thing--Iguess being a "mature" brother--some might say "over the hill" I can look at these situations and ask--wonder why the brothers can't see how much MONEY they messing up--but then I can't honestly say what I might have done when I was a young buck.

Oh well. He's an athlete. They are usually pretty stupid.)
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Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 11:20 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tiger never lived in a trailer park. His upbringing was solidly "middle class."
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Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 02:59 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Man, I don't think anyone got your joke about; "taste for decent looking women". You were joking... right?"

Thanks Troy. Yeah, they didn't get it. But it boils down to personal taste and preference. I have been very clear about this since my first post in this forum. What he or she does in their personal lives is no ones damn business….PERIOD! I could care less what someone chooses in their private lives. And race or money has nothing to do with it. People flirt and have affairs outside their marriage all the time. There is nothing new about this behavior. All the mindless drivel and toxic hate carries no weight nor meaningful significance. It's human behavior whether one approves or not. Tiger is no exception. It is what it is.

Look at Eliot Spitzer. He was the poster boy for hard core persecution of the moral-less and the pinnacle of being straight as an arrow. Look what he did. No exceptions. Again, black men, white men, black women, white women (or any other ethnicity or race) plays no role in the behavior. Not condoning it but it has nothing to do with class or race. Negroes need to move on past their tired and petty race baiting. End of subject......
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Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 04:07 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ahhhh Troy, don't ask that question anymore. *LOL*

"Negroes need to move on past their tired and petty race baiting"???
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"Negroes need to move on past their tired and petty race baiting"???

Yep......
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Robynmarie, I never said Tiger grew up in a trailer park. The trailer park metaphor was used to illustrate the caliber of women apparently looks for.

Clearly Tiger's actions reflect a low class behavior. The whole situation is text book ghetto or trailer park...

Despite how Tiger is protrayed in the media and by Nike; he is a pretty low class Brother.

I'm saying Tiger had a low class mentality before he because rich and famous. Further, Tigers wealth and fame does not improve his low class mentality, indeed it fosters it.

Carey I'm afraid you might be right about Tiger having to get up off some major moola. I hope he can correct that situation, it will not be easy.

Ntfs_encryption, I agree with you. But I have little hope that we will ever get past the "tired and petty race baiting". Anywhere you have a society where the vast majority of the wealth power is controlled by a few people. Everyone else will look for excuses why they are left out in the cold. Race is the easiest thing for folks (Black and white) to use as an excuse.
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Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 10:52 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have been very clear about this since my first post in this forum. What he or she does in their personal lives is no ones damn business….PERIOD

(Bullshit. Once you are in the public eye it is EVERYBODY'S business, especially when you are going around trying to portray yourself as Mr. Clean.

I love it. You love it. The people with the sports talk shows love it. White men love it. Black women love it. What more can you ask?)


"Negroes need to move on past their tired and petty race baiting"???

Yep......

(Ain't you the MF who was getting down on Latinos a while back? So its okay for Rush Limbaugh but not for us.

Au contraire--race baiting is the American way. I love it. It keeps me focus. Bring it on, as GWB used to say)
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Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 11:10 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By the way Ntfs--didn't you tell me "Precious" was made BY blacks FOR Blacks?

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Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 03:54 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Ntfs_encryption, I agree with you. But I have little hope that we will ever get past the "tired and petty race baiting". Anywhere you have a society where the vast majority of the wealth power is controlled by a few people. Everyone else will look for excuses why they are left out in the cold. Race is the easiest thing for folks (Black and white) to use as an excuse."

Agreed. Tragically, the race baiting will never go away. It’s easier for people to make self serving pathetic faux pas arguments, rumors, innuendos, accusations and finger pointing vice problem solving and open minded objectivity based on the facts. Interjecting their bigotry, biases and misinformation into arguments is a cathartic blood sport for them. I see it all the time. Reality and individuality is not allowed nor will it be tolerated. Cheap race baiting, name calling, personal attacks on peoples private lives and caustic blather is preferred and encouraged. It’s sad and unfortunately there is not much a sane and honest person can do about it…..
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"Bullshit. Once you are in the public eye it is EVERYBODY'S business, especially when you are going around trying to portray yourself as Mr. Clean."

As usual, you missed the point and distorted what I said. I said; IT’S NO ONES BUSINESS WHAT SOME DOES IN THEIR PRIVATE LIVES. That’s my opinion. But you believe you have a right to know what a person does in their private lives. I don’t agree with that. Why do you have a right to know their personal business? Because they are celebrities? Do they have aright to know your business? No one has aright to any one’s personal business as long as they are not running afoul of the law. Sadly, I will concede this a silly argument that some will maintain but I will never agree to it. Why? Very simple my friend –if you have a personal life you would not concern yourself with what someone else is doing. End of subject….

"I love it. You love it."

Wrong! Get it right. YOU LOVE IT! Unlike you, I have a busy life and I have no need, interest nor desire to know what someone else is doing in their private lives. That’s your thing, not mine…..

"Ain't you the MF who was getting down on Latinos a while back?"

Sigh....Still skipping your meds, huh? I never said anything negative about Latinos other than them having an exponential birth rate (which is true and if you consider it a negative statement). I did not agree with the racist comments against them. You have me confused (as usual) with someone else. You or no one else can produce a thread or comment where I was deriding or haranguing on Latinos. Get it right…..if you can….

"So its okay for Rush Limbaugh but not for us."

Not in my book. Phuck Rush Limbaugh. Next…..

"Au contraire--race baiting is the American way. I love it. It keeps me focus."

Oh, I’m sure it does. Speaks to the 25 brain cell syndrome. Again, next…..

"By the way Ntfs--didn't you tell me "Precious" was made BY blacks FOR Blacks?"

Duhhhhhh? And your point is??? What in the hell does that have to do with this discussion? It’s true. Just like Chris Rocks movies about black women’s hair is directed to a black audience. Do you have a problem with this?
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Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 09:43 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Troy, are you saying because Tiger cheated on his wife, he is "low class"?

Do you say the same thing about Prince Charles, Bill Clinton, and Martin Luther King?
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"Troy, are you saying because Tiger cheated on his wife, he is "low class"?

Do you say the same thing about Prince Charles, Bill Clinton, and Martin Luther King?"


Wow! Good question. And no, I don't agree with Tiger being "low class". There is nothing in his personal history that remotely suggests such. What he did is exactly what countless millions of people do -rich, poor, somewhere in the middle, famous, obscure, black, white, Latin Asian, Indian, Christian, Islamic, etc, etc etc.... It's human behavior that is not restricted to any specific demographic, race or class. Subject closed.....
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...well I beg to differ, NTFS

Just because "countless millions of people" do something does not preclude it from being "low class". There are many low class people.

It is also human behavior to steal, murder, and rape little children. Just because "millions of people do it" and it is not "restricted any specific demongraphic" does not prevent it from being "low class".

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Robynmarie to answer your question: On balance I would not put Tiger (or "Cheetah" as he is now being called) in the same room with MLK.

Thanks to our government we pretty much know every bad thing MLK ever did. If you take all of that and compare it with his contributions to society, under constant threat and ultimate loss of life -- I can, in no way shape or form, consider MLK "low class" despite his infidelity.

I can not however at this stage say the same for "Tiger".

From what I've read about Bill Clinton his behavior was pretty "low class" too -- even when compared to the rest of his contribtions. He gets busted for having some young, low level intern blow him in the oval office!? I could go on, but it does not get much lower than that.

Sure he is a nice charismatic and friendly guy, but he is capable of some pretty low class behavior. Don't you agree?

Lack of discretion is a low class characteristic exhibited in volumes by both Tiger and Bill.

I don't know anything about Prince Charles.
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”..well I beg to differ, NTFS

Just because "countless millions of people" do something does not preclude it from being "low class". There are many low class people.

It is also human behavior to steal, murder, and rape little children. Just because "millions of people do it" and it is not "restricted any specific demongraphic" does not prevent it from being "low class".”


Bro Troy, perhaps we can work with this. Here is my spin. When you said “low class”, the immediate connation and thought that comes to mind, is the socioeconomic model (rich, wealthy, upper class, middle class, lower class, underclass, etc, etc…). But what you are referring to is a behavior. This particular unsavory behavior (infidelity) is independent of class, race, gender, religion or nationality. Bill Clinton was a former POTUS, Tiger Woods is a celebrated and beloved international figure, Eliot Spitzer was a governor and a former tenacious prosecutor and Prince Charles is British Royalty and Mike (a neighbor) is an unemployed, SSI recipient. All have extreme class differences but yet all shared one common "behavior" –they cheated on their spouses. Is it class or behavior? I would say behavior. Now, if you want to define the behavior as a class, well….I guess you can do that.

It’s somewhat old school because as we all know, our parents and grandparents would refer to obnoxious or unruly behavior as low class. Perhaps this is what you mean. But I’m confident most people would instinctively envision the socioeconomic model if you characterized something as low class. Low class behavior would probably be associated with welfare, crime, illiteracy, illegitimacy, joblessness, antisocial behavior, being uneducated, lacking linguistical and literary skills, gangs, etc. But infidelity trumps class.

I can understand your revulsion and disappointment with high profile blacks for obvious reasons when their behavior is called into question. As a positive role model, father and literary entrepreneur, maybe blacks who put themselves at risk with unacceptable behavior evokes your ire? I respect your definition but I guess we have slightly different interpretations of low class and infidelity.
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Posted on Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 02:31 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Damn Ntfs, that was good and very fair.
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Tiger has as much personality as a dial tone. I don't know what these women see in this man besides his money
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"Damn Ntfs, that was good and very fair."

Thank you...
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Bill Cosby, Muhammed Ali, Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant and the list goes on.

It is not a question of "class" it is a question of character.

Question: If God forbid we learn Pres. Obama is have an extramarital affair. would you still admire him?

I agree with NTFS' analysis. And I might add there seems to be a reemergence of classicism in the Black community nowadays. It is disturbing.
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NTFS, given Tiger's tremendous wealth I assumed you knew I was not talking about his being in a lower socio-economic class. Of course, I was referring to his behavior and how his behavior reflects a "low class" mentality.

A low class mentality is often associated with lack of wealth. This association is made in error as there are people who are dirt poor that exhibit far more class and grace than Tiger would know what to do with. Here NTFS, I suspect we are in complete agreement.

Robymarie, honestly I admire Cynique and Chrishayden more than I admire Obama. I supported Obama 100% simply because he appeared to be a viable Black candidate. I also hoped that he would help all people through his actions. I also thought he would help young Black folks, in particular, by the example he would set just by being president and proving anything is possible. Right now, unfortunately, it looks like I was wrong.

I have not put Obama on a pedestal, I don't think he can walk on water or feed the masses with a single loaf of bread. Were he to be caught in an affair, while in office, I would think he engaged in an astonishingly stupid activity – like Bill Clinton – and his judgment would certainly be in question.

Again, Tiger’s having multiple affairs while married with two little children; then bringing his nonsense into the street with a public display of violence is low class -- at least in my book.

In today's society what constitutes low class behavior is different from person to person. Unfortunately, those differences are so broad we no longer have a foundation for determining what proper behavior is.

The mere fact that we are even sitting around and debating whether sleeping around on your wife is characteristic of "low class" behavior is telling in and of itself.

So Robynmarie, you can list all of the world's prominent people who have had extra-marital affairs -- it will not change my mind about how I feel about the behavior.

In our life time we’ll see an America where extramarital affairs will be as accepted as teenage pregnancy or the failure to graduate from high school.
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Troy, although someone gave your 5 stars for that post, I would like to ask them why?

I will agree with parts of it, yet I was utterly surprised and dismayed at what I thought was an irresponsible statement.

Troy: "Robymarie, honestly I admire Cynique and Chrishayden more than I admire Obama. I supported Obama 100% simply because he appeared to be a viable Black candidate. I also hoped that he would help all people through his actions. I also thought he would help young Black folks, in particular, by the example he would set just by being president and proving anything is possible. Right now, unfortunately, it looks like I was wrong"

Here's why I object to that statement. It's not because you used 2 regular postee's names to compare to Obama. It's because that statement lacked balance. So much so, it has inspired a post.

To a degree, you will be the center of that post but it will not be about you.

If you look at the dynamics of this board or any other board, the strong and fearless voices rule the day. Granted, they may not be "right" or saying anything worth hearing, but they have little fear of sharing their opinions. Some would say they are opinionated individuals. Considering that group of individuals, where does that leave the rest or how would the rest be classified?

Well, without getting to deep into this (here), I believe it's safe to say, many of them would/could be followers. Sure, they may have a mind of their own, but, the average person has a "lynch mob" mentality.

Most would not agree with that last statement, because who will admit they are easily lead or that they are quick to surrender their thinking to someone else. Yet it is true. They are easily lead because thinking is one of the hardest things for man to do. Plus, many individuals feel the most comfort while riding in the arms of popular opinion.

You Troy, are a leader, and consequently, you are responsible for your words. People will get behind you. Now, of course, that leadership, which can be a conscience endeavor or not, can do harm.

Considering all that I've said, opinionated individuals, followers, passive people, ignorance, lynch mob mentalities, popular opinion, etc,etc,ect, I know you feel me.

I am going to let this stew.
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”NTFS, given Tiger's tremendous wealth I assumed you knew I was not talking about his being in a lower socio-economic class. Of course, I was referring to his behavior and how his behavior reflects a "low class" mentality.”

Uderstood. Your explanantion is fine with me although initiutally your “low class” reference threw me off.

”Robymarie, honestly I admire Cynique and Chrishayden more than I admire Obama. I supported Obama 100% simply because he appeared to be a viable Black candidate. I also hoped that he would help all people through his actions. I also thought he would help young Black folks, in particular, by the example he would set just by being president and proving anything is possible. Right now, unfortunately, it looks like I was wrong.”

Wow! I’m a little surprised at that assessment. It’s somewhat disappointing seeing so many people jumping on the Obama is a failure bandwagon being that the man has been in office for less than a year. Yes, I have admitted to his missteps and I think the man (unfortunately) is learning as he is going. It’s like the awkwardness of riding a bike for the first time and correcting for mistakes as you go along. I personally believe that so much frenzied hyperbole and ecstatic hopes were heaped on this man, people seem intolerant of any mistakes or political gridlock he faces. They seem to believe he should have changed the direction of this country within the first quarter of his presidency. And after coming behind eight laborious years of George W. Bush’s phuck ups and disastrous foreign/military policies, there is not much tolerance for deviating from the expectations and change people were impatiently hoping for. This man is under tremendous pressure from his detractors who despise him for not only political reasons but racial ones as well. They are in an frantic general quarters mode, creating every toxic cacophony possible and hyping any heated political initiative or issue (e.g. national health care, Iran, Afghanistan, etc).

There are many people who had euphoric hopes of him turning around an economy that crashed hard (which he had nothing to do with), the attempts at bail outs for financial entities that were stumbling off the edge of a cliff, an effort to provide affordable health care for the uninsured and Americans in general, the war in Afghanistan and what to do about Iran and Pakistan. All of these issues are being ruthlessly exploited by the Obama haters. So, I really have no idea what people like yourself realistically expected him to accomplish at this early stage (still in the first quarter!). I personally don’t buy into the hate and failure hype so quickly. And for the record, I’m not an Obamaette and I do not believe he is a messiah or the exclusive answer to this country’s pressing issues. And I also don’t believe his circle of advisers are doing him justice. But I still support him.

”So Robynmarie, you can list all of the world's prominent people who have had extra-marital affairs -- it will not change my mind about how I feel about the behavior.

In our life time we’ll see an America where extramarital affairs will be as accepted…….”


Troy, let me add something to your heated disdain for cheaters. Um, you may already be aware of this but I’m going to say it anyway. Contrary to what you may believe, marriage fidelity (as seen by many Americans), is not the litmus test or bar for acceptability in the rest of the world. When I lived in Japan during the Clinton-Lewinsky sex fiasco, the Japanese did not see it the way many hysterical Americans did. They did not understand why Americans were foaming at the mouth and screeching for his head. The Europeans just shrugged their shoulders. It is not uncommon for Europeans of wealth and political prominence to have mistresses or become entangled in sex scandals. No biggie. Culturally, they don’t necessarily see it the same as Americans.

Now, I’m not suggesting that such behavior (infidelity) is ok, but there are countless millions of people in the world who do not attach the “low class” tattoo on the foreheads of the offenders as you do. So I understand your indignation for this so-called “low-class” behavior, but globally, it is not a recognized universal “failure of character” as you believe it should be. Once again, not saying I agree with it but that’s just the way it is. Bro Tigers SUV debacle and all its trappings would be just a shrug of the shoulders and comment of, “Oh well…”, if this happened in Korea, France, Italy or Russia. Why? Culturally, many countries do not judge, punish or make a big deal of it publicly. These are private matters and are dealt in private between the involved parties. Unlike the Americans, adulterous adventures are harshly dealt with publicly, the media creates a forum for public humiliation and punishment for the offender. It’s true, trust me…..
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Agreed. Tragically, the race baiting will never go away etc.

(Damn. This was reasoned. Balanced. Well written. I even wish I had written it myself. I may do so in the future.

Gasp! Could I have (choke) been wrong about Ntfs?)

As usual, you missed the point and distorted what I said. I said; IT’S NO ONES BUSINESS WHAT SOME DOES IN THEIR PRIVATE LIVES etc

(Whew! You had me going for a minute and then POW! Right back to form.

You say this, and then you always down people--usually black, usually lower class, for what they do in their private lives.

Hey, at least they ain't all over the tv trying to act like they are Mr. Clean.

It's the white woman thang, ain't it? Another one has come forth to say she is one of Tyger's jumpoffs.

This guy ain't gonna be able to do anything but Malt Liquor commercials in a minute.

Don't let the smooth taste fool you.
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When I lived in Japan during the Clinton-Lewinsky sex fiasco, the Japanese did not see it the way many hysterical Americans did.

(Yeah but they are a heathen people. By the way, this is PEARL HARBOR DAY! REMEMBER PEARL HARBOR AND OUR BOYS ON THE ARIZONA!)

Europeans just shrugged their shoulders

(Did you just compare us to---FRANCE? YOU NEED JESUS!)
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I wonder if you would've gotten as much flak had you used the term "low-life" instead of "low-class", Troy. Once you injected "class" into the equation, you opened up a can of worms.

In my circle, disgraceful behavior is referred to as "low-life", which makes it easier to consider it an equal-opportunity slur.
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"I wonder if you would've gotten as much flak had you used the term "low-life" instead of "low-class", Troy. Once you injected "class" into the equation, you opened up a can of worms.

In my circle, disgraceful behavior is referred to as "low-life", which makes it easier to consider it an equal-opportunity slur."


Good point.....
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”Whew! You had me going for a minute and then POW! Right back to form.”

OK…..I just tell it like it is. No hype, lies or fabrications. Sorry if your feelings are hurt……

”You say this, and then you always down people--usually black, usually lower class, for what they do in their private lives. “

Well, this is a black site so the discussions center around black people. What? You didn’t know that? Lower class people? They are what they are. Not my fault nor am I responsible for how they conduct themselves (referring to the bad behavior). And what are they doing in their private lives that I unfairly criticize or contradict myself about? Coonery is what it is. Drive by shootings, selling drugs, gang banging, having multiple children out of wedlock, rejecting education as a major life option, senseless black on black violence and stupid criminality is the core of the coon culture. What does that have to do with their private lives?

”Hey, at least they ain't all over the tv trying to act like they are Mr. Clean.”

No, they’re all over the TV for antisocial behavior or being arrested or convicted of some bullshit thuggish behavior. You never noticed?
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NTFS you said a lot, much of it I assume was not directed at me because little of what you wrote spoke to how I feel about Tiger, Obama, etc.

To be clear. I did not expect Obama or any man to make significant changes immediately. However Obama has not even changed course – despite HIS promises.

Of course Obama is subject to scrutiny and criticism; what president is not? All presidents take a lot of heat – it is a job requirement. Do you think he is under more pressure than say Lincoln, Kennedy or any of the presidents who served during the depression or the worlds wars? Please!

Next, Obama, I’ve come to realize, was too inexperienced to handle the current job with great skill. Several people on the boards said that years ago, and I see they were right. Even simple things, like getting involved in the Skip Gates incident speaks to his lack of sophistication. It was a juvenile error the average adult would have easily avoided.

Obama still has my support, but come on; the guy is out of his league... Look I always asserted Obama could not be any worse than Dubya. But we should have elected a more seasoned politician.

Regarding Tiger, NTFS, Carey what does the reaction of people in countries like “Korea, France, Italy or Russia” and “Japan” have to do with anything?

At the end of the day, outside of the media scrutiny, here is what matters: Tiger with his multiple concurrent affairs behaved in a malicious and callous manner to his wife, children, both of their families and anyone close to them. There is little that he and all of his millions can do to repair the damage, he caused for no particularly good reason.

I call it "low class", but I don’t care about the terminology so much. What Tiger did was a very bad thing – full stop.

It does not matter if;

There is a media feeding frenzy or
Whether the folks of Russia or Japan care or
Whether Bill Clinton, Elliott Spitzer or OJ Simpson had an affair too or
Whether Tiger is cableasian, or Black or
Whether his mistresses were white or Black

What I am saying is that when adults fail to call the behavior exactly what it is; that characteristic of a “Low Life” and instead say, well it is none of our business they are implicitly condoning the behavior. We are setting up (for breakdown) a society where a Tiger Woods has no compunction stealing time away from his wife and children and spending it other women.

I’m not saying Tiger should be stoned, dealing with his family is punishment enough.

And we wonder why we live in a world where people laugh out loud during movies like Precious…

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"Wow! I’m a little surprised at that assessment. It’s somewhat disappointing seeing so many people jumping on the Obama is a failure bandwagon being that the man has been in office for less than a year. Yes, I have admitted to his missteps and I think the man (unfortunately) is learning as he is going"

Thank You, NTSF. That was my exact sentiments. Although I didn't say it as smooth as you, I felt the same way.
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This is my last post before upgrading to Windows 7 Pray for me :-)

LOL!

Dear [Deity-of-Your-Choosing]:

Please see Brother Troy safely through the trials and tribulations of his most recent technological undertaking. Amen.
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Woods' mammy in law has to go to the hospital--his wife is rumored to have purchased a castle on an island in her native Sweden and is about to leave the country widdout Tyger--the hoochie count is up to 8--

He is an official disgrace. Now watch him start claiming black.

NTFS, I guess this is your idea of fine wonderful behavior that should be emulated by the black youth.

The Obama of golf is setting back race relations 500 years.
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It’s somewhat disappointing seeing so many people jumping on the Obama is a failure bandwagon being that the man has been in office for less than a year. Yes, I have admitted to his missteps and I think the man (unfortunately) is learning as he is going"


(Nobody drafted him for the job. Nobody made him do it. He asked for it.

The next three years is going to be pure d hell. As I said, he will be the LAST black President.

For myself, I figured he was taking on quite a lot and, since he was a white folks' Negro, he would be little more than a puppet.

I was willing to give him a pass as long as the cabal that put him in started making meaningful steps toward ending the occupation and at least made meaningful steps toward at least halting the slide.

He has done neither and made a series of further missteps that anybody with the intelligence of a moron could have avoided.

I do not blame the cabal for him shooting his stupid mouth off in so many situations I can't list them all now or for his picking such obvious disasters as the Clinton, Bernacke and Gates--which if he had the slightest backbone he could have vetoed.
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Yvettep, thank you for your pray. I'm sure your deity would have been fine.

I'm working from a laptop, because my desktop is still going through the upgrade process.

I tried to kick it off last night but it just continued to fail. I tried calling Microsoft, but the support they offered that late at night would have cost me money.

I started the prvcess all over again this monting after 1.5 on the phone with the pinheads at Microsoft, we worked around the problem I had. I finally kicked off the upgrade at about 10AM it is still running 3 hours later. It seems to be close to completing.

I just hope the PC works after all this. I'm in the midst of upgrading the web site, one might wonder why I decided to upgrade my operating system now -- in the middle of a website upgrade. Well I just read so much about how much better Windows 7 is compared to Vista I just had to do it. But I digress....


Chris my local "news" says the body count is up to 10.

It would be really interesting if Tiger started claiming Black. I seriously doubt that will happen, plus it will not do him any good...

My upgrade has just finished -- lets see what we have here!
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"Nobody drafted him for the job. Nobody made him do it. He asked for it.

The next three years is going to be pure d hell. As I said, he will be the LAST black President.

For myself, I figured he was taking on quite a lot and, since he was a white folks' Negro, he would be little more than a puppet.

I was willing to give him a pass as long as the cabal that put him .....

....them all now or for his picking such obvious disasters as the Clinton, Bernacke and Gates--which if he had the slightest backbone he could have vetoed."


Ha! Ha! Ha! The Negro mouth piece for Glenn Beck has just regurgitated his meal for today.....
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Troy, there is a notable difference between Windows 7 and Vista, trust me. I've ran both of them extensively. It is an improvement but I would never recommend an upgrade. Too many issues can occur. I suggest a new install with a clean hard drive and the complete OS vice a program upgrade. Two different things. I hope it works for you though.
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Ntfs - too late :-)

So far everything looks good though, but I have not tested everything. Right about now I only care about the software required to upgrade the website.
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"Ha! Ha! Ha! The Negro mouth piece for Glenn Beck has just regurgitated his meal for today....."

That was some funny sh*t. You even hit him with his own sword. That be race bait turned upside down.

Hey Chris, that tops your Buttboy jokes... well, Imo.
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At least he's not boinkin' Oprah. Uugh!
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Ha! Ha! Ha! The Negro mouth piece for Glenn Beck has just regurgitated his meal for today

That was some funny sh*t. You even hit him with his own sword. That be race bait turned upside down.

Hey Chris, that tops your Buttboy jokes... well, Imo.

(He who laughs last, laughs best.

Contemplate that on the tree of woe, gentlemen)
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I voted for Obama, even though it took me three tries and all day to do it. I stood in line out in the cold for an hour.

I defended him on tis list against many attacks.

I didn't expect much or want much--just try to stop the economic slide and bring the boys and girls home.

He is doing none of this. His speech in Oslo might have been given by George Bush. They didn't do him any favors giving him that silly award. It's going to get rubbed in his face month after month as them coffins come home.

White folks in America have been blinded by their experience with us. Those people would rather die than put up with them running all over their country with guns, robbing them and telling them what to do.

They got the time. They got the numbers. We are broke and on the verge of an outright civil war--what was kept out of the news about the teabaggers rally here is that it was heavily attended by military and ex military people. A woman ex colonel stood before the crowd and called on all military, ex military, and police to be ready to form an army and go to Washington and throw Obama out of the White House if need be.

For years I been telling people on this list about these folks out here in the sticks and been getting laughed at--well, this ain't no joke.

Obama is rapidly alienating his base of support. I ate Thanksgiving dinner with the same people I did one year ago. One year ago they could talk of nothing but Obama. His name wasn't even mentioned once this time.

Oh well...
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Just got this email:

"Dear Tiger Woods, we can't help you. Remember you don't consider yourself one of us.

Sincerely, The N*****s".
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WOW!

I guess I am really out of it. I because I cannot for the life of me see all the GLARING mistakes the Obama Administration are alleged to have made in less than 11 months in office.

Rather, I see a president who has absolutely the worst confluence of bvllsheht to deal with since maybe FDR took office +70 years ago and political opponents and allies who (quite HILARIOUSLY) appear to expect him to INSTANTLY solve problems that are DECADES in the making.

Perhaps Obama isn't up to fixing things. But if he isn't it will more because of US, our collective FOOLISHNESS, than it will be because of him.
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Nobody expected Obama to be a miracle worker because of the immensity of the problems he inherited.
But his silly little lapses and his ineffectiveness in placating the segments of the population who got him elected are preventing him from being - a leader who inspires confidence!

And the "collective foolishness" is indeed the fault of nobody's but the "audacious hopers" who were stupid enough to elect this inexperienced duffer to the office of President.
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Posted on Saturday, December 12, 2009 - 11:32 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hater or Hoper?

Cynic or Optimist?

Fence straddler or grounded in convictions?

Witch hunter or supporter?

Short Dog or in for the long haul?

and moan or trying to grow?

Weed layer or seed layer?

Blue eyed contact wearing Nigg* or understanding brotha?

Eat the pie but not help make the pie or realize the pie is still in the oven?

OLD or NEW!

The forks in the road, which way will you go?
Collect the real fool.

"But his silly little lapses and his ineffectiveness in placating the segments of the population who got him elected are preventing him from being - A LEADER WHO INSPIRES CONFIDENCE!"

You can lead some old negroes to water but you can't make them drink. Ain't no fool like an old fool.
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Cynique
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Posted on Saturday, December 12, 2009 - 11:54 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Look who's talkin. Only an old fool like you, Carey, would hang jes keep holdin on, shufflin from foot to foot, convinced if we just keep our eyes lowered everything will be jes fine.

Take your silly little verses and stick em up your dried-up ol azz.
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Carey
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Posted on Saturday, December 12, 2009 - 12:02 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Okay, we have one vote :-)

Yes sir, we have a vote for stick it up the old dried dookie shute.
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Moonsigns
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Posted on Friday, December 25, 2009 - 05:13 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

What Tiger is doing (cheating) is as old as dirt, and for a man, it doesn't matter what color the women is; sex is sex. I happen to think this Rachel woman looks rather androgynous - and whorish, and the other women look plain broke down; but, really, those points are irrelevant. However, what his choices reflect is indicative of the greater culture - men (in general) love to have sex with whorish, broke down, and even androgynous looking women (regardless of color), and Tiger is no different than the average man (black, white, yellow etc.) He's a freakin' man who just happens to be a freakin' billionaire...he likes "it", nothing new here. The only difference is, compared to the average man, he's extremely wealthy. But....a dog, is a dog, is a dog. And half, if not more, of the men on here (aalbc) would "do" the very same thing - so don't act as if your standard is gold (black) pu$$y - a l l t h e t i m e. I'm sure most of you have had plenty of hydrant runs over the years, all colors too.

I just hope Elin seeks a divorce, full custody of the children, and wipes her a$$ with his phuckin' PGA tour money/endorsements.

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