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     Imtiredowaiting Regular Poster Username: Imtiredowaiting Post Number: 35 Registered: 09-2007 Rating: N/A |
according to the people i have been studying the bible with, there are at present over 7 million practicing Christians more commonly known as "Jehovah's witnesses" that's a lot isn't it! my question to you is would you be willing to join them? they believe they are on the verge of deliverance from the present oppressive and corrupt system of things. either they will indeed have cause to rejoice when Jehovah releases them from this system or they will end up disillusioned if it all turns out to be a lie and that as many people believe that there is no god? there is no doubt that mankind is in desperate need of help...people are and have long suffered under the rule of corrupt and wicked men and women in positions of government...when will a generation be ruled by good government that does not oppress its people? Jehovah witnesses believe that government will be gods government headed by no other than his own beloved son the means by which the human family was given the hope of one day being released from sin and death...Jesus Christ. when he was on earth he proved that he is qualified to govern the human family...because he taught the people how to worship god and also shared the good news that Jehovah's people continue to share with those of us who decide to at least listen. its not an easy thing worshiping god because his standards are very high in what he requires from his human subjects...but as the apostle john said, this is what the love of god means...that we observe his commandments...and yet his commandments are not burdensome...meaning that the load he asks us to carry is not too heavy for humans to bear during our lifetime. for example loving our neighbor as we love ourselves...is that a heavy burden like commandment? if the human family applied that commandment the result would be that we would enjoy a measure of peace and security that few people have enjoyed now or in the past simply because we have not applied it. the American government applied a policy in which hating ones neighbor became law and one nation oppressed another and yet the one that was oppressing would have claimed to be Christians but yet how could they be if they were not loving the alien residents who were only in America because their forefathers and mothers were shipped there to work and die as slaves but instead of being welcomed warmly they were oppressed and hounded even killed...and if the ones doing the killing and oppressing were asked what religion they belong to? they would surely say they are Christians...the apostle Paul was a Christian but he was also at first an oppressor of Christians but he changed...that alone proves without a doubt that as Jesus said by this all will know you are my disciples if you have love among yourselves...so you see love is the hallmark of true Christians, just as police and firemen were uniforms according to their profession, true Christians "uniform" is love. and just as Jesus showed loved to people, his followers do likewise, so you can therefore be sure that the people that oppressed and hated their neighbor and alien residents, were not true Christians, just as anyone can purchase a policemen's uniform and pretend to be one and fool many people, however when faced with a true policemen that impostor would flee because he does not want to be exposed and punished accordingly. one more thing, playing the lottery is a gamble, you could win or lose...if you win it changes your life...if you lose you still have your life but without major change...the prize awaiting Jehovah witnesses that endure till the end and serve Jehovah faithfully is something more valuable that money...forgiveness of sin and the prospect of life everlasting under perfect conditions right here on earth. that is something no amount of gold can buy...but it is a prize that everyone of us can win...everyday is a opportunity to learn the truth about god and his purposes for people and the earth. so much lies have been spread about things like hell and the trinity,contacting the dead and evolution. all those false teachings have mislead mankind and misrepresents god. this is why Jesus said you will know the truth and the truth will set you free. that is why 7 million people that previously practiced all kinds of sins have now been set free from them and now they practice things that belong to the truth. think about it...you know it makes sense. | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 14368 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
Your post is too long to read in its entirety but from what I was able to discern, your are proseltyzing for the Jehovah's Witnesses and in answer to your question, I say "No, I would not become a JH." As far as I'm concerned Jehovah Witnesses are a religious cult practicing mind-control. Like all Christian denominations they are fanatical in thinking their way is the only way, in spite of the fact that their end-of-the world predictions have been debunked down throught the years when the dates they calculated for this time came and went amidst a sea of excuses about why the Apocalypse didn't occur. And any religion that attracts a weirdo like Prince has to be suspect. Me, I reject anything that regards the Bible as infallible. Any book which was originally hand-written by Men claiming they were inspired by "God" reeks of a self-serving recruiting campaign with a good marketing strategy. The fact that there are so many different interpretation of the Scriptures, which in turn, have spun off the conflicting tenets of different religious sects does not impress me, either. I prefer the Unitarian philosophy, grounded in the simple golden rule. I also have an affinity for the Eastern religions which are much more grounded in inner peace as opposed to the external wrist-slapping "thou-shall-nots" of Christianity. Soo don't come knocking on my door selling Watch Towers. | ||
| Imtiredowaiting Regular Poster Username: Imtiredowaiting Post Number: 38 Registered: 09-2007 Rating: N/A |
well at least your response was frank and honest and i appreciate it. however, time will tell whether jw's are misguided religious fanatics after all it is written that all scripture is inspired of god and beneficial to us. also it is written that god cannot lie in fact it is impossible for him to lie and if you take the time to read your bible(if you own one)? you will see that when god told Adam he would positively die for his disobedience it came true. however, the rebellious angel who made himself Satan the devil, said to eve she positively would not die for her disobedience but she did die. who then was the liar and the reliable one? god has to be the latter because what he said came true...the former proved to be the liar. god has made promises to those that obey him that he will actually give them everlasting life...time proved god to be true and reliable towards two people in the garden of eden...he has 7 million people at present looking to him for deliverance...will he break a habit of a lifetime and let them all down? i doubt it very much but time will tell... | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 14375 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
Well, I don't argue with people who proceed on an assumption that they have a hot-line to God. I would simply repeat that I, personally, don't place a lot of credibility in "what is written" because of who transelated what was written. Drunk monks.  I don't doubt there is a higher power but religion is too full of human corruption for me and I would agree that it is "the opiate of the masses." As someone also once said, "the only thing wrong with Christianity is Christians." | ||
| Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption Post Number: 3751 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: |
"Your post is too long to read in its entirety but from what I was able to discern, your are proseltyzing for the Jehovah's Witnesses and in answer to your question, I say "No, I would not become a JH." As far as I'm concerned Jehovah Witnesses are a religious cult practicing mind-control. Like all Christian denominations they are fanatical in thinking their way is the only way, in spite of the fact that their......religion that attracts a weirdo like Prince has to be suspect. Me, I reject anything that regards the Bible as infallible. Any book which was originally hand-written by Men claiming they were inspired by "God" reeks of a self-serving recruiting campaign with a good marketing strategy. The fact that..........more grounded in inner peace as opposed to the external wrist-slapping "thou-shall-nots" of Christianity. Soo don't come knocking on my door selling Watch Towers."  Thank you! Thank you! Subject now closed......... | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2443 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
Cynique: "Any book which was originally hand-written by Men claiming they were inspired by "God" reeks of a self-serving recruiting campaign with a good marketing strategy" That's very interesting, and let me tell you why. In spite of what some of my post my indicate, I study the Bible. I would like to say I am a Bible Scholar. But hold up, although I may study the Bible does not mean I don't have some indifference about it. I use it as a source of reference, because it's more than stories. For me, it's about a guidence tool. I don't want to go to deep about this, but there are solutions (in the bible) for most of man's falsities/maladies. I am not talking about pies in the sky or rewards through prayer. It's deeper than that. Anyway, I have a bible discussion group in my home. We meet on the same day of every week (not Sunday). First (going along with some of Cynique's thoughts), the word bible comes from the Greek word "Biblia" meaning little books. Although many use the word "bible", it's the Holy Bible they are commonly referring to. But here's my point (riding with Cynique). We have this one guy in the group that refuses to accept the fact that the Bible was written by men. AND! Many of the books have no known author. That's not to say the information is not true, it just requires a little deeper thought. Plus, it has been translated by other men. Moreso, he tries to redefine the word "inspired". I believe his core beliefs has been rocked. He was lead to believe that everything written in the Bible were written by God. I directed him to the dictionary. Even after reading the definition for inspiration/inspired, he has refuse to accept it. Through our weekly discussions, his fondation has been rocked and it's very uncomfortable for him. Now get this, he's a Minister. yeah, go figure. I doubt if he even knew who compiled the Holy Bible and/or the reasons behind them doing so. He wanted to go deep into the bible and in doing so, he's been forced to look deep into himself. To admit one is wrong is hard for most people to do. It requires acceptance and change. Some religions are based on dogmatic doctrines. They can be very dangerous thangs. Yet,they all have good qualities and seek similar goals. |
