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     Troy AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Troy Post Number: 1999 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
Comedian Katt Williams Arrested For Alleged Burglary by The Associated Press  http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=120270080 Comedian and rapper Katt Williams was released on bond Monday after police said they arrested the entertainer for breaking into a home southwest of Atlanta and stealing thousands of dollars worth of jewelry and coins. | ||
| Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption Post Number: 3732 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: |
No surprise. Just your average coon thug getting caught. Moving on....... | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2382 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
Stop it Ntsf. Why does he have to be your average coon thug? Okay, we're moving on but why you got to talk so nasty? | ||
| Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption Post Number: 3734 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: N/A |
Carey -he is what he is. Stop taking other peoples pathology and individual failures personal..... | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2383 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: |
"Carey -he is what he is" But Ntsf, that's the question, what is he? The last time I heard someone say "coon" it came from the same person that called a black man "colored". Really, what is a coon? Seriously, is it a black person? Over the last 5 years I have not heard a black person call another black person a coon. I am around black people every day. Also, what offense does a person have to commit before he becomes a thug? I mean, Kat Williams probably makes more money (in a day) than most of us make in a year. What? Does any felony land someone in the role of a thug. Or, is that part reserved for blacks that commit a crime? Are you a coon? You're black - right? Is it possible that Kat Williams is a rich brotha that is alleged to have committed a crime. I'll help you with the first part... he is not a coon. | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 14289 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
Wasn't it in the news a year or so ago that Katt Williams, who is supposedly a foster father to 7 homeless children, had a nervous breakdown and was briefly institutionalized, much to the shock of his family members. This man is nothing, if not erratic. Not that it proves anything, but I've never heard him rap. I thought he was just a stand up comedian who occasionally appeared in hip hop movies. | ||
| Chrishayden "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Chrishayden Post Number: 8285 Registered: 03-2004 Rating: N/A |
He done lost his mind. And this is a guy who had a SUCCESSFUL showbiz career. Keep serving up your kids to Moloch, Negroes. The people in the board rooms love it. | ||
| Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption Post Number: 3736 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: N/A |
"But Ntsf, that's the question, what is he? A thug and a coon. Just like I preciously said….. The last time I heard someone say "coon" it came from the same person that called a black man "colored". Really, what is a coon? Seriously, is it a black person?" Let me explain something to you my friend because you and I obviously live in two different realities. Actually -he is a zip coon. And updated version of the original coon. Why a coon you ask? Because he exemplifies the most negative stereotype and self disfiguring image of a black person. He plays into all the pernicious widespread beliefs that whites (and every other race and ethnicity) have of blacks. Buffoonery and coonery are interchangeable. What? You didn’t know this? Carey, do you have any qualms about a black man who promotes himself as a pimp and pimping as an acceptable behavior? Yes, I know it’s a prevaricating stage act but it does not matter. Would it be ok if I pawned myself as a crack dealer? Would it be ok if I made jokes about selling crack? Why would pimping, a vile and destructive behavior that does nothing but degrade and destroy the lives of young women be ok? Is recruiting and encouraging black women to be prostitutes something you approve of? If not -then why would I see humor in a man who makes a living making people laugh about being a pimp? So, when you make a living portraying yourself as a pimp and then illegally break into someone’s home (also known as burglary) with the criminal intent of theft, you are a conscious and deliberate purveyor of a widely held malignant negative image that plagues black men. It’s called coonery. ”Over the last 5 years I have not heard a black person call another black person a coon. I am around black people every day.” Carey, by you not hearing -does not mean it does not exist. Next…. ”Also, what offense does a person have to commit before he becomes a thug?” Well, if you break into someone’s home to rob them of their personal property, that qualifies you as a thug to me. Look, I’m not going to play the politically correct race game with you nor am I going to debate your personal eristic text book definition of a thug. The man was arrested before for carrying three guns in a car which were confiscated by New York City police even though he somehow wiggled out of that case (you guessed it –good lawyer) but he was previously arrested (2006) for carrying a concealed gun. And recently, he was also arrested at the Los Angeles International Airport for carrying a gun in suit case WTF?? NOW HE WAS ARRESTED FOR A TOTALLY INDEFINSIBLE CRIMINAL ACT OF BURGLARY? HE’S A THUG! What do you not understand??!! ”I mean, Kat Williams probably makes more money (in a day) than most of us make in a year. “ Oh really? Then why in the f@%k was he arrested for stealing jewelry and valuable coins? ”What? Does any felony land someone in the role of a thug.” If you are convicted of a felony crime –you are a thug. Now, to be fair, that does not mean that you have to remain a thug for the rest of your life. Some people change. I recognize this. But again, I’m not going to debate this with you and I will tell you why. First of all, let me say in all honesty Carey, I do like you. I like the way you like to conjole and ignite the debate. Your role as the thought provocateur is appreciated. Trust me. But you and I have very divergent views. You seem to be thug and criminal friendly. I’m not. You will make excuses and rationalize coonery and criminality. I will not. Why? Because black people, as a group, suffer horrendously from criminal acts. No other group in this nation suffers from whole communities being under siege, intimidation and fear of being robbed, beaten, shot and murdered than black Americans. And who is perpetrating these acts of violence and intimidation on black people –OTHER BLACK PEOPLE! Just pick up any major metropolitan news paper (Atlanta, Washington D.C., Newark, Detroit, Philadelphia, St. Louis, et al) and read the weekly hospitalizations and body counts in the morgues from virulent violent acts. I did a stint with the Military Police and I was a corrections officer before -so there is absolutely nothing you are going to tell me about criminality, thugs and felons. As I have previously stated, you and I have two totally different views about crime and race. ”Or, is that part reserved for blacks that commit a crime?” Black, white, Latino, Eskimo or Pigmy, don’t matter to me –a thug is a thug! I don’t attach deleterious racial sentimentality to criminality as you do. I carry “one ruler” in my back pocket and I measure everyone by the same standard! Bottom line: NO EXCUSES!!!!!!! ”Are you a coon? You're black - right?” Am I a coon? Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! That’s funny. But let me answer your question. Since I don’t make a living robbing people, not a career criminal, not into pimping, selling drugs, sexually or physically harassing women, I don’t assault or threaten other black people (or any other race), not into stealing, doing drive bys -wounding and killing innocent people, illegally carrying concealed weapons, not in a violent parasitic street gang, indulge in impulsive and senseless violence, bringing disgrace to my race by consciously playing to the worst negative perceptions, expectations and stereotypes of black people, indulging in offensive and inexcusable antisocial behavior and I’m don’t burglarize and rob homes (hint…hint….), no, I am not a coon. ”Is it possible that Katt Williams is a rich brotha that is alleged to have committed a crime. Tell ya what, I’ll concede this. Since he has not been convicted yet, legally at this point, it is technically –an alleged crime. But answer this, how in the hell can he convincingly explain why he was arrested in a home that was not his and without the permission of the owner (even though his lawyers are trying to claim he was a guest)? ”I'll help you with the first part... he is not a coon.” Yeah he is. You’re in denial my friend……. | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2397 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: |
Oh my dear man, Ntsf. On one hand you said you don't want to debate this and then you wrote 2 pages defending your position. Sorry, not today my brother. First, You can have your definition of a thug, that's yours. It's very Obvious that you seem to have taken his profession and twisted into his life. I mean come on Ntsf, we can stop that arguement right here. Denzel played the part of a dope snorting evil cop AND won and Oscar. Should we continue? Hallie played the part of a crack head and a ho. AND won an Oscar. Please Ntsf. Terrence Howard played the part of A PIMP! You're losing your rep with that arguement. They are all coon thug - right? NOT! But let me continue.... On one hand you say you are a law abiding citizen - right. Then you admitted Kat Williams was accused of a crime (carrying a weapon) that he was found not guilty - right. But noooo, it had to be a good lawyer. Ntsf, do you see how you are blinded by your own thinking pattern. I mean, I can see it and I am sure other can as well. Yet again, you seemed to dodge this... (what's a coon?). The point you convenently sidestepped: Is that reserved for blacks? I never heard you call a white man a coon. "He plays into all the pernicious widespread beliefs that whites (and every other race and ethnicity) have of blacks. Buffoonery and coonery are interchangeable. What? You didn’t know this?" Slow your roll. Just who are you talking for? I think you should be talking in first person. No, I didn't know it, because only you have shown it. As I said, I've haven't heard the phrase "zip coon" in 30 years. ”(Are you a coon? You're black - right?)” "Am I a coon? Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! That’s funny. Carey, by you not hearing -does not mean it does not exist" Now we are talking, my brother. It exists in your mind and you can't help but let it seep out. Remember, you said it, NOT me. NTST, it's obvious you are an intelligent man, but you should know that you are playing on the wrong battle field? If one followed your line of thinking they wouldn't be a Black American, they'd be a damn fool. Look ...black = coon = anyone that gets arrested for carrying a gun = anyone that plays a villian in a movie = Thug. No Ntsf, I asked you if you were a black man and you laughed. I think what you are speaks so loudly, I can't hear what you say. You, my friend are the one in denial. Look Ntsf, You conceded the fact that the man has only been accused of a crime. Then, you brushed off the fact that the man DOES make more money in one day than most of us make in a year, by implying that he doesn't BECAUSE HE BURGLARIZED THAT HOUSE. Come on NTSF, that's weak and you know it. No, you don't want to debate. You want to do what you do and that's call black people coons... whenever your heart desires. Again, I've only heard you say it! | ||
| Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm Post Number: 10425 Registered: 04-2004 Rating: N/A |
Has anyone ever seen Katt William and Prince in the same room together? Because I swear I can't help thinking that Katt is some evil manifestation of The Artist.... | ||
| Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption Post Number: 3741 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: |
”Oh my dear man, Ntsf. On one hand you said you don't want to debate this and then you wrote 2 pages defending your position. Sorry, not today my brother.” Uh huh, and I was very clear about what I believe and where I stand. There was nothing to defend…PERIOD! I just told you what I believe. ”First, You can have your definition of a thug, that's yours. It's very Obvious that you seem to have taken his profession and twisted into his life. I mean come on Ntsf, we can stop that arguement right here. Denzel played the part of a dope snorting evil cop ………….arguement. They are all coon thug - right? NOT! But let me continue...." Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! That’s funny. Denzel, Hallie and Terence played roles in a movie. All three have played numerous other roles before. They’re actors! That is not who they are. I have no idea how you attempted to twist what I said into such grandiose pretentious drivel. Carey, I’m somewhat surprised you would attempt such a desperate faux pas counter argument. ”On one hand you say you are a law abiding citizen - right. Then you admitted Kat Williams was accused of a crime (carrying a weapon) that he was found not guilty - right.” Your dyslexia is showing my friend. I said he was not convicted but the guns (in the NYC case) were confiscated. That’s not the same thing as saying he was not guilty. People may not be convicted of crimes for various reasons. And it’s not because they didn’t do it. Just ask OJ and those who helped him. The cases of him (Katt) carrying or transporting firearms are documented. I told no lies. Your attempt to use “he was not found guilty” means nothing. HE STILL DID IT!! ”Yet again, you seemed to dodge this... (what's a coon?).” First of all, I dodged nothing. Secondly, I guess you’re pretending illiteracy now –GO BACK AND READ WHAT I SAID! Not going to explain it again….. ”The point you convenently sidestepped: Is that reserved for blacks? I never heard you call a white man a coon.” Let me explain this since you seem to struggle with reading and comprehension: Is it reserved for blacks? Yep! I SAID IT!! Ya got that??!! And I was very clear about why I use the term (go back and read what I said –again!) And as far as me calling a white man a coon –I have other descriptions for them when they provoke my ire. And they aren’t pretty either. I have used them before but since you’ve never read all my posts, you wouldn’t know about it. Your failed attempt to interject whites and what names I call them for bad behavior into this discussion speaks to your invective desperation and inability to refrain from your tedious efforts for race baiting. Read this: WHITE PEOPLE DON’T HAVE A DAMN THING TO DO WITH THIS SUBJECT!!! Next….. ”Slow your roll. Just who are you talking for? I think you should be talking in first person. No, I didn't know it,…..” Wow! I…I…I really don’t know what to say now. Are you that dense or are you playing a role? I say that not to be harsh or nasty either. I’m very serious. What is that you do not believe or understand? You didn’t know whites (and other groups) have negative beliefs about black people? You were not aware that poor and antisocial behavior by Negroes plays directly into the negative stereotypes others have of black people? You knew nothing about this? Ummm….Ok….at this point. I believe you…… ”….because only you have shown it.” I’ve show it? Oh really? And you have examples of me indulging in bad and inexcusable behavior that supports negative stereotypes of black people? Ok….List them. Please, I’d like to see it…. ”As I said, I've haven't heard the phrase "zip coon" in 30 years.” Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! And that means what?? Do you know how many terms I could probably list that you have never heard before? Read this (again): Just because you have not heard it does not mean it does not exist! Since when did anything have to be heard or approved by you in order for it to exist? Please explain….. ”NTST, it's obvious you are an intelligent man, but you should know that you are playing on the wrong battle field?” Really? I see….And exactly what is this “wrong battlefield”? Details please….. ”If one followed your line of thinking they wouldn't be a Black American, they'd be a damn fool.” Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ya know, for a minute you had me going. When I read the above statement -I thought to myself is they guy serious???? Is he that f@#king stupid?? Then I realized what you are doing. It worked up until that sentence my friend. Then I realized what you were doing. I know you are not that stupid Carey. I don’t believe it. I know you said that to get a rise and….well…it worked -for about 20 seconds. I have about 30 more minutes before I go to the gym (I missed yesterday) so I’m going to continue on. Nice try though. I can appreciate your role as the provocateur and instigator. I don’t mind it…… ”Look ...black = coon = anyone that gets arrested for carrying a gun = anyone that plays a villian in a movie = Thug.” Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! I’m still laughing. You’re so transparent. But I’ll bite. That is not the logic I used nor implied -and you know it. I’m not to even respond in detail to that twisted nonsense. Next…… ”No Ntsf, I asked you if you were a black man and you laughed.” You did not ask me if I was a black man. Get it right bro. You said: “Are you a coon? You're black – right. Put down the pipe and go back and read what I said?”I responded to that question in great detail. ”Look Ntsf, You conceded the fact that the man has only been accused of a crime.” And? I was being technically correct. Whenever someone is arrested or put on trial, they always preface the crime as “being charged with…” or “alleged…”. That’s the standard. When the person is convicted, then they say he/she was “convicted of…” or “committed such and such.” Again, that’s the standard. But it in no way denotes that the person is being falsely accused or that they did not perpetrate a crime. And you never explained why he was arrested in a home that was not his and charged with stealing $3,555 worth of jewelry and collectible coins. I’m still waiting for your response….. ”Then, you brushed off the fact that the man DOES make more money in one day than most of us make in a year,…” There you go again. You just can’t get it right can you? You said he made more in one day than most people make in a year. I didn’t agree to that. You did. I don’t know what his yearly income is (and neither do you). If someone made only $30000 a year, Williams would make close to $11 million dollars a year (according to your statement). I read somewhere that he made $50 million in one year but that was not substantiated. I doubt very seriously if he makes that kind of money on a yearly basis. And if he made $100 million every year for the past ten years -so what?? What’s you point? Besides, once again, you tap danced around my question: If he made the money you believe does–why was in arrested for burglary and theft? ”….by implying that he doesn't BECAUSE HE BURGLARIZED THAT HOUSE.” Do you read what you write? Or do you just write nonsense in hopes that no one will notice? Which is it?? I never said he did or did not. The statement was moot to me. My question was if he is making the money you believe he does –why has he been charged with burglary and theft? Get it right bro! ”Come on NTSF, that's weak and you know it.” No. What you said (and have been saying) is weak… ”No, you don't want to debate. You want to do what you do and that's call black people coons... whenever your heart desires.” Uhhhhh….Listen….I’m going to try one more time since it went over your head the first time. If you would please refer to what I clearly stated previously about what behavior I consider coonish -you will see what it constitutes. Behavior that is demonstrative of coonery is not indulged in nor practiced by the average black person. So, I don’t call black people coons just because they are black. When I use the term it is always prefaced with some form of inexcusable bad behavior. It’s a behavioral issue my friend –not a matter of just having black skin. You need to understand this before accusing me of stating things I did not say nor imply. ”Again, I've only heard you say it!” So? That means the behavior (third time) does not exist since you have not heard anyone use the word? Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Think again my brother, think again…… You’re forgetting something here Carey. I don’t need nor do I require the approval or the lexicon stamp of legitimacy to use the descriptive adjectives I choose. Maybe you need public approval but I don’t. Besides, I said this before and I’ll say it again; You are thug and criminal friendly. I am not. You condone and approve of coonery. I do not. Thus, we have a conflict of ideology and beliefs. We don’t agree. But the good thing is this; I’m sure there are many issues and subjects that you I do agree on. This subject just happens to be one in which we do not. So, why don’t we be civil and agree to disagree and move on. Hey, I’m a fair guy….. | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2400 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
*LOL* although it hurts me to the tip of my toes to let you have the last word... "This subject just happens to be one in which we do not. So, why don’t we be civil and agree to disagree and move on. Hey, I’m a fair guy….." You're probably right. If we ever go down this road again, we should just post one from the archives. BUT, when you say coon....*wink* | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2401 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
I don't know ABM. Kat Williams plays the part of a pimp, Prince IS a pimpin' MFer *lol*. Yet, an evil manisfestation is very interesting. Have you seen the Micheal Jackson "This is it"? I loved it! | ||
| Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm Post Number: 10426 Registered: 04-2004 Rating: N/A |
Carey, I LOVED "This Is It", as well. It is a wondrous coda to the artistry of the late GREAT Michael Jackson. It was interesting to see how deferrent the White(Hispanic?) director was to MJ. Yet the brotha who directed the music seemed much more comfortable going at MJ. I don't mind saying I sobbed through much of the movie. Especially when at the very beginning they showed the young performers describe how much they loved Michael Jackson. And when MJ sang Human Nature. Btw: I can NOT be the only here who is crackin' the fluk up at Troy's Discover The True African (Booty) Romance! ads. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2402 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
"It was interesting to see how deferrent the White(Hispanic?) director was to MJ. Yet the brotha who directed the music seemed much more comfortable going at MJ" Abm, you know I noticed that. Did you hear the exchange between Michael and the music director. Michael was saying something about the tempo of a song or something, and the brother came back with his idea. Then, if you listen closely Michael says "then you sing it". The other dude was very reserved. Well, his questions to Michael seemed to have a ring of an apology. You better believe it was Michael's show. His genius touched every aspect of his productions. Okay, don't tell nobody, but I also dropped a tear. I got jealous watching my lady cry over Michael Jackson. After I was finished watching it I had to write a post about it. It was short and to the point. I was simply mermerized by the whole video. On a side note, how about the booty of ol'girl who strutted across the stage with Michael in one of the production. GAWDDAMN! | ||
| Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm Post Number: 10430 Registered: 04-2004 Rating: N/A |
Carey: "...if you listen closely Michael says 'then you sing it'." ABM: Hahahaha! I missed that. I am supposed to take my wife to see it sometime soon. I will look for that then. Carey: "The other dude was very reserved. Well, his questions to Michael seemed to have a ring of an apology." ABM: I almost got the impression the director feared that if he disagreed with MJ or got too loud and direct, MJ might FIRE his a$s. Hahahahahahaha!!! Carey: "You better believe it was Michael's show. His genius touched every aspect of his productions… I also dropped a tear. I got jealous watching my lady cry over Michael Jackson. After I was finished watching it I had to write a post about it. It was short and to the point. I was simply mermerized by the whole video.." ABM: It was wonderful to see how much of the consummate ARTIST Michael Jackson was. He had such a great and intimate knowledge of not only how music should sound, but what emotions it should evoke, how it should look and FEEL. Even those who might not have been fans of MJ would likely admire him after seeing that movie. I took my younger daughter (who is almost as much fan of MJ as I am) to see "This Is It. Can you believe that was the FIRST time my kid had ever seen her crusty ol’ daddy cry? Carey: " how about the booty of ol'girl who strutted across the stage with Michael in one of the production. GAWDDAMN!" ABM: Babygirl is carrying some chocolate CAKE behind her. Ain’t she? Good Googalie MOOGALIE! And the Asian-looking girl he sung the duet of I Can’t Stop Loving You is a honey pie too! |
