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     Chrishayden "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Chrishayden Post Number: 8258 Registered: 03-2004 Rating: N/A |
Losing both in Virginia and New Jersey was bad juju. It is the Democrats fault, they did not get out the vote. After 2008 they told their fresh, idealistic armies to go home. We'll handle it from here, they smirked. We see how they handled it. A 73 year old Iowan who voted for Obama said she will give no more money or support until she sees real change. Health Care is dead--any meaningful change anyway. All his other initiatives are dead. He better start drawing down in Iraq and Afghanistan fast as possible. Also, raising money. The Democrats are going to need billions and billions of dollars to hold off the coming bloodbath in 2010. And Obama will need billions and billions more--mabye five billion, if he's to be re elected. Better get out there and start raising money now, Barry... | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 14257 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
Is it conceivable that Obama might be encouraged to step down at the end of his term so that another Democrat could run. This move, alone, would garner a couple of million votes. | ||
| Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption Post Number: 3709 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: N/A |
"Is it conceivable that Obama might be encouraged to step down at the end of his term so that another Democrat could run. This move, alone, would garner a couple of million votes." Well, the first quarter is about over. The score is 14-0. Obama has three more quarters to pull out a win. Let's wait and see.... | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 14263 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
The TV program I was watching this afternoon was interrupted, presumably to get Obama's reaction to the breaking news story about the shocking and tragic mass killing in Fort Hood Texas. And what does he do? Lead off by expressing appreciation for the committee which put together the conference from which he was emerging, smiling as he gave a "shout-out" to one of the honorees at the meeting. 12 soldiers had just been killed and 30 more wounded after a soldier went on a rampage, and - Obama's doin a "Bush" by putting a potential crisis on hold. Where are his priorities. Where is his good judgment? | ||
| Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption Post Number: 3711 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: N/A |
Ummmm....Ms. Cynique, I...I...I'm sorry, but I can't support your assessment. Obama made a very sincere and quality statement regarding this horrible incident. I don't understand how you could suggest that he was somewhat cavalier and flippant about this matter. You seem to have taken a very harsh and critical stance against the man. I can understand your criticism of some of his missteps. I have agreed with some. But I think you are somewhat overreaching when you said, " ...Obama's doin a "Bush" by putting a potential crisis on hold. Where are his priorities. Where is his good judgment?" I seen the video of his addressing this tragic issue and I saw none of what you suggested. His words were: “As some of you might have heard there has been a tragic shooting at the Fort Hood Army Base in Texas. We don’t yet know all the details at this moment. We will share them as we get them. What we do know is that a number of American soldiers have been killed and even more have been wounded in a horrific outburst of violence.” My immediate thoughts and prayers are with the wounded and with the families of the fallen and those who live and serve at Ft. Hood. These are men and women who have made the selfless and courageous decision to risk and at times give their lives to protect the rest of us on a daily basis. It’s difficult enough when we lose these brave Americans in battles overseas. It is horrifying that they should come under fire at an army base on American soil." The president said he’s spoken to Defense Secretary Robert Gates and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Mike Mullen “and I will continue to get a constant stream of updates as new information comes in. We are working with the Pentagon, the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security, who all have been assured that the fort has been secured, and we will continue to support the community with the full resources of the federal government.” Video Ref: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/11/president-obama-speaks-about-for t-hood-tragedy.html What else was he supposed to say or do? | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 14264 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
Mr. NTFS, did you see the live bulletin that interrupted regular programming?? Before he commented on the situation at hand, he proceeded to compliment whoever had put together the conference he had just attended and specifically announced that he wanted to give a "shout out" to a congressional medal winner who had been in attendance, a hint of a smile on his face as he said this. Reference: my own eyes. All of this was something that could've been done in private. It didn't need to be done on camera; nobody but the people at the meeting knew what the hell he was talking about. An audience of millions were waiting for his words about why regular programming had been interrupted. But, yes, I am nit picking and being harsh, only as I've said, it is the little lapses that I can't abide because they are indicative of the immaturity he exhibits by not thinking before he speaks. I give him leeway about big things like the economy and Afghanistan because, since he doesn't know from nothing, his loose purple lips are still.  It looks like the Democratic health plan may finally get passed, and I will at last have a reason to offer Obama Kudos.  Lately I've been having a dullness on the side of one temple. I am probably getting ready to have a stroke and it's undoubtedly because of a subconscious realization that my day is over and it's time for me to step out of the parade. It's a different world out there and it's not mine. It belongs to a multitude of half-steppers. Cest La Vie. So be it.  | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 14266 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: |
I felt more than a little redeemed after, out of the blue, the link to the article below was posted on my facebook wall. I was amazed at how much it mirrored my sentiments. I am not acquainted with either the writer or the person who posted it so I don't know their poltical persuasion. But I do know that whatever the case, Obama once provided his detrators with grist for their mill. "President Obama didn't wait long after Tuesday's devastating elections to give critics another reason to question his leadership, but this time the subject matter was more grim than a pair of governorships. After news broke out of the shooting at the Fort Hood Army post in Texas, the nation watched in horror as the toll of dead and injured climbed. The White House was notified immediately and by late afternoon, word went out that the president would speak about the incident prior to a previously scheduled appearance. At about 5 p.m., cable stations went to the president. The situation called for not only his trademark eloquence, but also grace and perspective. But instead of a somber chief executive offering reassuring words and expressions of sympathy and compassion, viewers saw a wildly disconnected and inappropriately light president making introductory remarks. At the event, a Tribal Nations Conference hosted by the Department of Interior's Bureau of Indian affairs, the president thanked various staffers and offered a "shout-out" to "Dr. Joe Medicine Crow -- that Congressional Medal of Honor winner." Three minutes in, the president spoke about the shooting, in measured and appropriate terms. Who is advising him? Anyone at home aware of the major news story of the previous hours had to have been stunned. An incident like this requires a scrapping of the early light banter. The president should apologize for the tone of his remarks, explain what has happened, express sympathy for those slain and appeal for calm and patience until all the facts are in. That's the least that should occur. Indeed, an argument could be made that Obama should have canceled the Indian event, out of respect for people having been murdered at an Army post a few hours before. That would have prevented any sort of jarring emotional switch at the event. Did the president's team not realize what sort of image they were presenting to the country at this moment? The disconnect between what Americans at home knew had been going on -- and the initial words coming out of their president's mouth was jolting, if not disturbing. It must have been disappointing for many politically aware Democrats, still reeling from the election two days before. The New Jersey gubernatorial vote had already demonstrated that the president and his political team couldn't produce a winning outcome in a state very friendly to Democrats (and where the president won by 15 points one year ago). And now this? Congressional Democrats must wonder if a White House that has burdened them with a too-heavy policy agenda over the last year has a strong enough political operation to help push that agenda through. If the president's communications apparatus can't inform -- and protect -- their boss during tense moments when the country needs to see a focused commander-in-chief and a compassionate head of state, it has disastrous consequences for that president's party and supporters. All the president's men (and women) fell down on the job Thursday. And Democrats across the country have real reason to panic." New York writer Robert A. George blogs at Ragged Thots. Follow him on Twitter. | ||
| Yvettep AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Yvettep Post Number: 3706 Registered: 01-2005 Rating: N/A |
Lately I've been having a dullness on the side of one temple. I am probably getting ready to have a stroke and it's undoubtedly because of a subconscious realization that my day is over and it's time for me to step out of the parade. It's a different world out there and it's not mine. Please stick around a little longer. Log off the internet for a few days and do something different. Get some rest. Your day ain't over yet!  | ||
| Ferociouskitty Veteran Poster Username: Ferociouskitty Post Number: 864 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
I second what Yvette said, Cynique. If you are still a night owl/not sleeping much, that catches up with you eventually, often in the form of a headache. | ||
| Nels AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Nels Post Number: 1305 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
Kissss heeyuzz blaaack aaazzzz goodbyeeeee. | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2367 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
Would somebody please tell me something. Is Nels an undercover negro? | ||
| Chrishayden "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Chrishayden Post Number: 8270 Registered: 03-2004 Rating: N/A |
The man is a cold fish. Or at least horribly repressed. This probably impressed his liberal white handlers. They thought it was great they had a Negro who didn't bite their heads off. They didn't understand that his reticense would backfire. If the man can get them Wall Street Boys to disgorge some of them billions he might be able to buy his way back in. I don't know why he should want to do it though, save for the fact that now there is nothing left to do. | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 14270 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
I don't know that Obama is a cold fish. He just doesn't seem to have the shoulders to wear the cloak of the office of president. He lacks good instincts. | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 14272 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
OK, Yvette and FK, just to show my appreciation for your concern, I will pop some aspirins and press on.  | ||
| Troy AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Troy Post Number: 1992 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
I knew Obama would win the Presidency. I know he will not serve a 2nd term. I supported Obama's presidency. However I'm keenly aware Obama is a celebrity rock star with about as much gravitas. We had a election in New York City. A Brother, Bill Thompson against a billionaire business man, Michael Bloomberg (who changed the law to serve a 3rd term, rather than previous 2 term limit). I went to the poll to vote. I waked in (at 8:30AM), signed in, voted, and walker out. I did not see another voter -- par for the course in my neighborhood. Bill Thompson lost by a few percentage points, he would have won if we bothered to vote. When I voted for Obama, just one year ago, I waited almost two hours. Obama's support of Bill Thompson, the Black Democrat, was virtually noneexistent. Obama spent plenty of time campaigning for another Billionaire, former Goldman Sachs CEO, Jon Corzine for NJ Sate Governor, to no avail... Obama, lack of support for Thompson was implicit support for Bloomberg (can't piss off the billionaire). Given Obama's negligible impact on the hards and minds of our Black youth, I have to admit Hillary may have been the better choice -- either one would have won the election. Of course it is still early but my gut tell me Hillary would have made more of an impact as president. If I had to do it all over again, I'd still vote for Barack. Part of the problem is that we are over celebrating Obama's victory (historic though it may be) before he has actually done anything. Sure he won, but that was just the first step. He had to actually do something of consequence to deserve all the idol worhship - no man can live to up that hype. Obama will not, and he will disappoint many as a result. | ||
| Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption Post Number: 3719 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: |
"I knew Obama would win the Presidency. I know he will not serve a 2nd term." Troy, don't give up. I, like you, would like to see Obama succeed as president. You cannot get hung up in the 1st quarter drama -THERE ARE THRRE MORE QUARTERS TO PLAY. Let's see what happens before making funeral arrangements.... "President Obama didn't wait long after Tuesday's devastating elections to give critics another reason to question his leadership, but this time the subject matter was more grim than a pair of governorships. "After news broke out of the shooting at the Fort Hood Army post in Texas, the nation watched in horror as the toll of dead and injured climbed. The White House was notified immediately and by late afternoon, word..... .....has disastrous consequences for that president's party and supporters. All the president's men (and women) fell down on the job Thursday. And Democrats across the country have real reason to panic." Yawn....One mans opinion. Again, this blogger states his personal opinion. I have no problems with that. But I'm not impressed with his knee-jerk spin. Just keep in mind -there are three more quarters to go. This guys opinion carries no more weight than mine or yours. E'nuff said..... | ||
| Yvettep AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Yvettep Post Number: 3708 Registered: 01-2005 Rating: N/A |
And Troy, was your experience voting this year in a off-presidential election different than in year's past? Many said after the POTUS election that such turn-out would likely not be sustainable in minor races unless there was a big issue at stake. And that has proven to be the case. As far as specific races go, polling appears to indicate that they were not referendums on Obama (e.g., see http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/11/new-jersey-virginia.html). But of course, that makes a better story--that Democrats need to be in a "panic" less than a year after Obama took office. All the talk about Obama being a 1-term president ignores many things. Chief among them, however, is that to win, the GOP would need to be pretty united behind a viable candidate that could beat him by getting the base enthusiastic *and* wooing a significant portion of independent voters. That has to happen really soon, as history shows that Americans are not likely to abandon ship easily. Of course, one could argue that all bets are off because (some? many?) Americans *would* be willing to abandon a *Black* president. Time will tell. But one thing seems clear: if the economy continues to inch towards an upswing, many folks who could otherwise be enticed to scream and fret about Obama might be more than willing to keep him in office. | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 14275 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
Opinions do carry weight if a lot of people have the same one, NTFS. If what Robert George, who is also a writer for NBC News, said represents the sentiment of the growing number of people who polls show have become disillusioned with Obama, then George's opinion becomes a bell weather and cannot be dismissed by the yawn of someone who isn't impressed and doesn't agree with it. Nuff said? As far as Obama being a one-term president, I agree, Yvette, that it could all boil down to whether or not Independents are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Things are in such a mess that Obama probably won't have a whole lot to show for his 4 years in office other than a potential to finish any promising things he started in his first term. People have become dis-affected with both parties, and the power of Independents is gaining momentum. If they mount some kind of a grass roots third party and run their own presidential candidate, promoting him as the true symbol of change as opposed to the false one represented by Obama, both the Dems and Republicans could be toast. The war in Afghanistan will certainly be a factor. And there might even be a call for an overhaul of the electoral college and in the end Anarchy may be the winner! IMO | ||
| Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption Post Number: 3722 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: N/A |
”Opinions do carry weight if a lot of people have the same one, NTFS. If what Robert George, who is also a writer for NBC News, said represents the sentiment of the growing number of people who polls show have become disillusioned with Obama, then George's opinion becomes a bell weather and cannot be dismissed by the yawn of someone who isn't impressed and doesn't agree with it. Nuff said?” If many people have the same opinion, yes, it has to be taken serious. No doubt. But just because a person writes a personal opinion or spin does not always make it true. Bush looked invincible at one point. Everyone was clamoring around him and high fiving everything he did. No one seemed to have the testicular fortitude or nerve to stand up to his “sorry, but I have to reduce your Constitutional Rights because the terrorist are coming for you next week”. Millions of Americans believed this. The press and media seemed paralyzed to critically examine or question what he was doing. But before he left office -he was a disgraced man. If you recall, the GOP didn’t even want him at the Republican National Convention. WTF?? Things can change in the course of ones stay in the White House. Obama is not exempt from this possible eventuality and shift. Once again, Obama has played only “one quarter”. I’m willing to give him at least until half time before I bench him and join the Limbaugh’s, Glenn Beck’s and FOX news channel hecklers. And yes, as you have pointed out, he has made a few missteps. But hopefully, after he makes this decision about Afghanistan and the passage of health care reform, he will be able to recover some lost confidence ground. I know you detest the man but I’m not going to give up on him yet. As I’ve stated numerous times, I would really like to see him succeed. | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 14283 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
I don't detest Obama! He's my adopted son. I just get frustrated when he plays into the hands of those who I do detest. I fear for him because everything may cave in on him and what started out as such a noble mission will turn him into one of history's tragic figures. I want him to succeed if for no other reason than to keep those right-wing bigots from saying "I told you so." | ||
| Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption Post Number: 3726 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: N/A |
"I don't detest Obama! He's my adopted son. I just get frustrated when he plays into the hands of those who I do detest. I fear for him because everything may cave in on him and what started out...... ..... reason than to keep those right-wing bigots from saying "I told you so." I agree 100%. Your statement; "I just get frustrated when he plays into the hands of those who I do detest", reflects my exact sentiments. |
