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     Chrishayden "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Chrishayden Post Number: 8227 Registered: 03-2004 Rating: N/A |
First swine flu ain't an epidemic. Then it is. First there will be enough vaccine to go around. Now it ain't. First they have fully tested the vaccine. Then they ain't. First you can't get it from pigs. Then you can. Is it at all possible we are getting hustled on this? | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 14209 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
What the oink are you talkin about?? | ||
| Chrishayden "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Chrishayden Post Number: 8230 Registered: 03-2004 Rating: N/A |
This: Who stands to make a whole lot of money out of this? Primarily the pharmaceutical industry, and other medical caregivers. Now, suppose they have, as hey did in the 70's (don't you remember THAT swine flu "epidemic" that turned out to be noting) just created this whole thing? Jot down what they say about it this week. Compare what they say about it next week. There have been lots of conflicting messages. | ||
| Chrishayden "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Chrishayden Post Number: 8231 Registered: 03-2004 Rating: N/A |
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/swine-flu-hoax | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2326 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
Good point Chris. I was thinking the same thing. Look at all the attention this is generating. I wonder who's making this drug. Aside from the drug manufacturers, media, transportation, doctors, etc, are making a killing. Fear has always been a money maker. Fools rush in where the wise tread not. I personally do not think the risk of taking a drug that has not been tested (end result), is worth the chance of giving my children,family etc, a larger problem down the road. Can anyone say Thalidomide? Just like war, the manufactures of weapons are the big winners. And we all know, or should have known who hand their hands in that pot. The records will show that government heads had large stakes in those companies. I wish the hundreds of black youth being killed in Chicago, would get this much attention. Lets see, is that a pandemic? Ahhhh, YES! Is it spreading? AHHHHH, excuse me - YES! Is it a disease - Yes, it doesn't seem to be curable. Who benifits from not making Chicago's problem, (which IS a national problem), national news? Okay, again, who benifits from this latest PANDEMIC! Also, how many "youth" have died from this problem, in the USA. OKAY, how many black youth are dying on our streets on a regular basis. How many black youth have died TODAY from the pandemic beliefs that everything going to be alright in the morning. Well, that is, if we close our eyes, er'thang gonna be alright in the moaning. | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 14221 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: |
 What? Me worry? I don't know why my cousin Chrishayden is so upset. | ||
| Yvettep AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Yvettep Post Number: 3686 Registered: 01-2005 Rating: N/A |
http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/2009/swine-flu-latest-visualized/ | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2328 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
Well Yvettep, an old player told me if I was going to play, PLAY,Get in the game or get out. Translation: Dem sho is some big numbers. Did Chicken Little write that article? | ||
| Yvettep AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Yvettep Post Number: 3687 Registered: 01-2005 Rating: N/A |
Hi, Carey. Did you read the whole piece? It is the exact opposite of Chicken Little-ism. | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2329 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
I have to admit, I may have missed something. I have a saying that goes "If you can't say it, you can't do it". Translation: You can not give it away, if you don't have it. Translation: If a person can't voice their thoughts, it's a possibilty "they" don't know what's on/in their mind, and therefore, they can't "do it". Having said that, I wasn't looking for anything that would prove me wrong :-) - okay. I'll admit that. It appears I made my move too soon. I forgot whos post I addressed. Dang it, stop putting me on blast *lol*. That serves me right though. Why oh why, do I continue to try to make a joke about the most serious manners. I think I need counseling. But seriously Yvettep, what did I miss? If not Chicken Little than who, and what did "they" say. | ||
| Chrishayden "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Chrishayden Post Number: 8236 Registered: 03-2004 Rating: N/A |
They keep using the word "epidemic". I thought when you had an epidemic they had to cancel all public performances. People died by the thousands and millions. I don't know anybody who has even HAD it, much less been hospitalized or rendered hors de combat. They did this to us in 1976,too. I got a vaccination--and was promptly sick 3 or 4 days with one of the worst cases of the flu I ever had. I ain't never took one of them vaccincations since. | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2331 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
Ditto Chris | ||
| Yvettep AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Yvettep Post Number: 3688 Registered: 01-2005 Rating: |
They keep using the word "epidemic". A more accurate term is "pandemic." I thought when you had an epidemic they had to cancel all public performances. People died by the thousands and millions. Sorry, Chris. You thought wrong. It just has to be spread from person to person (infectious) and impact large numbers of people. People do not have to necessarily die in large numbers for something to be an epidemic/pandemic. Just infected in large numbers. | ||
| Yvettep AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Yvettep Post Number: 3689 Registered: 01-2005 Rating: |
But seriously Yvettep, what did I miss? Carey, I love that site because they take complicated statistics and try to make them easier to understand through visuals. Perhaps the message was not as effective this time--probably because the message was presented in a series of graphs. The take-away point, I think, is that the USA has a large number of laboratory-confirmed cases of H1-N1, but when you look at the number of deaths, the US drops off the map. This may be due to any number of issues: better health care here generally being able to save those who do become infected; higher confirmed cases because our surveilance and reporting is better here--or, simply, because we are only just now coming into the flu season in the northern hemisphere. (Or some combination of all of this.) I found this bit of information particularly interesting: The stand-out statistic from all this is the US’s death rate at 1.2%. It’s the only Western nation in the above-average rankings. This may be down to Swine Flu’s particularly lethal interaction with obesity. An estimated 34% of American’s are obese (CDC) So....if you're a little on the tubby side and thinking about not protecting yourself this season, you may wanna re-think that.  | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2333 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
Who you calling fat - Ni**a *lol*. You are correct, I didn't see the graphs. Thanks for the clarification on Pandemic/epidemic. One question: "The stand-out statistic from all this is the US’s death rate at 1.2%. It’s the only Western nation in the above-average rankings" 1.2% of what? Is that of reported case? Could you break that down into whole numbers. Another question, tell me about this link to obesity. Going back to that 1.2%.... of that group, what percent are tubbies. Now I think we are getting somewhere. Because if I have to give up my Chitterlings and ham hogs, am gonna look at this real hard. Seriously, although I have a propensity to crack a joke at the wrong time, I need to hear more. | ||
| Ferociouskitty Veteran Poster Username: Ferociouskitty Post Number: 849 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: |
laboratory-confirmed cases of H1-N1 I think this is key. Some parents I know have called in to their pediatrician's office, described the symptoms and been told that it's H1N1--so don't come in the office and contaminate it. I wonder if the doctors' offices are then reporting these numbers to the CDC, county health agencies, or whomever else is tracking. I'm interested in claims of vitamin D as a flu fighter. http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller27.html | ||
| Crystal Veteran Poster Username: Crystal Post Number: 512 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
FK - here's another Dr. that proposes the use of Vitamin D for the flu/cold. This blog post was done earlier this year: http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/media-bunkum/avoiding-the-swine-flu/ | ||
| Ferociouskitty Veteran Poster Username: Ferociouskitty Post Number: 850 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
Thanks, Crystal! | ||
| Yvettep AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Yvettep Post Number: 3691 Registered: 01-2005 Rating: N/A |
FK, no, I think "laboratory-confirmed" has to be just that. So this would imply that perhaps the numbers are actually higher in the US than are being reported. My relative who is a pediatrician has sent many samples to the lab and they are backed up. Even so, she has had several confirmed cases and this is just in a relatively small practice. My kids will be getting the nasal spray at school. Husband (a physician) also so that he does not bring it home from the sick folks he sees. That just leaves me as the sole hold-out! LOL | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2334 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
Hi Crystal Hi Kitty Do yawl still love me? I know I've been a bad boy. Yeah, Kitty, numbers/statistics should be looked at with a very discerning eye. See, that's one of the thangs I like about you. You cut straight to the chase. Btw, we haven't argued in awhile. Do you want to dispute anything in my comment. I mean, maybe you never loved me :-(. Love is.... But Crystal...... | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2335 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
See, that's why I also like hangin out with Yvettep. She seldom says thangs that she can not support. Dang it, she makes me so mad. She even brought her (doctor)husband up in here. Now who can argue against that ammunition. She makes me soooo MAD *lol* | ||
| Crystal Veteran Poster Username: Crystal Post Number: 513 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: |
Hey Carey! As to why I haven't responded to your posts . . . now you KNOW you're my ace boon but . . . sometimes I don't know what the heck you're talking bout brotha! LOL As far as the 'love' stuff - you know I'm not the touchy-feely kinda girl so you're just gonna have to look elsewhere for your material. | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2336 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
Well Crystal, at least you are honest. Someone gave you 5 stars for your effort :-). they might have been agreeing with "sometimes I don't know what the heck you're talking bout brotha! LOL You know what? Sometimes "I" don't know what I am talking about. So maybe I should give you five stars. Lets talk about that love stuff. See, I remember the time you laid me out for mentioning our e-mails, so I am not going to go there, but this bothers me...... "As far as the 'love' stuff - you know I'm not the touchy-feely kinda girl" See Crystal, I am not going to mention our e-mails or our phone conversations, but those words hurt me because that wasn't what you said last night. So you were fakin' it - huh. Is that what it is? You couldn't just come on the board and say "hi Carey, you know you are still my guy". Nope, you had to put our business all in the street. Well, I was fakin too. Yep, I get a better sleep when you leave in the morning. THERE! I didn't even ask you about the lovey Dovey stuff, so why did you split my heart on national TV. You're just like Robin Givens and the bruins still stink *lol* So, I bet you know what I am talking about now. Five stars for the woman with the skinny legs. She needs more love.... at least that's what she said. | ||
| Crystal Veteran Poster Username: Crystal Post Number: 514 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: |
Ahhh Man! Carey, that post is so WRONG on so many levels that I just don't have time for your foolishness. Suffice it to say STFU! | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2337 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
Well Crystal, that's what I do. That's the beauty of our relationship. You say STFU, and I say.... Okay. Wrong is what wrong does. There's a little story in those words, but you've already told me to STFU, so I'll say..... Yes Maam. Next page. Moving on, today is a good day I..... | ||
| Ferociouskitty Veteran Poster Username: Ferociouskitty Post Number: 851 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
Yvette: FK, no, I think "laboratory-confirmed" has to be just that. I understand that. Just saying that apparently in addition to the lab-confirmed cases some people are being "diagnosed" with H1N1 over the phone, and I'm wondering if those numbers are included anywhere, even as "lab-unconfirmed", or whatever. Carey: Btw, we haven't argued in awhile. Do you want to dispute anything in my comment. I mean, maybe you never loved me :-(. Love is.... We're cool, Carey-Carey. There's nothing that you said that I want to dispute. But I will say that at times arguing with you is a fool's errand. xoxo ;-) | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2340 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
Now that's the best thang anyone has said on this board in the last year, Kitty. Cuz, if a person argues with a fool (hand raised) then there will soon be 2 fools arguing, and thus "a fool's errand". | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 14222 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
You have to argue with fools in order to prove that they're fools. Otherwise, there would be very little discourse on a discussion board. | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2341 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
"You have to argue with fools in order to prove that they're fools. Otherwise, there would be very little discourse on a discussion board" True Dat. To be honest, a fool comes in all flavors. The problems with some fools.... they don't believe their actions are of a foolish nature. Like Kitty said, it would be foolish to argue with me. Even though I have some periods of sanity, a nice disciplined person might find themselves acting foolishly by engaging me in foolishness. Translation: The hat of foolishment is like a hot potatoe. Some eat it up, and others pass it on. | ||
| Ferociouskitty Veteran Poster Username: Ferociouskitty Post Number: 853 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
LOL @ Cynique! I knew you'd have a comment on the matter. | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 14223 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
This is a foolish argument. The idea that a fool should be allowed to bask unchallenged in his foolishness is foolish. That's what the "Good Germans" did when it came to Hitler. Carey apparently thinks a fool is entitled to drone on and on and that nobody should object to what he says. A fool doesn't command that kind of deferrment and his foolishness should not be spared scrutiny. | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2342 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
"Carey apparently thinks a fool is entitled to drone on and on and that nobody should object to what he says" No he doesn't. A fool totally missed my point. Carey said, it could be foolish to argue with someone when "they" are acting foolishly. A fool might have missed this as well.... "The problems with some fools.... they don't believe their actions are of a foolish nature" Now, if a person wishes to include themself in that formula..... What about you? Do you ever wear that hat of a Damn Fool? Truth be told, I think we all do - at times. Look....happy, glad, mad, sad, giddy, stupid, ignorant, are emotions that we all experince. Only a real zip fool.... I mean, pimp or die fool, would say they've never acted foolishly. That's called denial - in the worst case. If they said they've never been there, the only person they would be fooling is themself! So......? Play it again, Sam. | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 14224 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
You raised your hand and called yourself a fool, and advised others to not argue with you because that would be acting foolishly. I disagree with that caveat. It's not about whether somebody acts foolishly, it's about how others react to the foolishness. The fool may or may not benefit when his foolishness is revealed but others will be enlightened. If anyone acts foolishly it's the prerogative of others to expose this if they so choose. A "fool's errand" is to pursue something that doesn't exist. To prove a fool a fool is very real. | ||
| Ferociouskitty Veteran Poster Username: Ferociouskitty Post Number: 854 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
Actually, Cynique, "fool's errand" has two meanings: "A fool's errand is a task that cannot be accomplished because of fate or because it is a joke. It comes mainly in two varieties: trying to find something that does not exist, or trying to accomplish an impossible task." (wikipedia) I was referring to the latter meaning, because I find some of Carey's arguments positions impossible to respond to because 1) I don't follow his initial premise, or 2) because, imo, I feel he's creating an "argument" where none really exists (arguing for the sake of arguing), and that's never been my bag. Now I could be wrong, and certainly, these are just my personal preferences/observations...but that's what I was referring to. Now I consider "proving a fool a fool" to be a different matter entirely, because I don't feel it's an impossible task, lol. | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2343 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
A fools errand "It comes mainly in two varieties: trying to find something that does not exist, or trying to accomplish an impossible task." (wikipedia) "Even though I have some periods of sanity, a nice disciplined person might find themselves acting "foolishly" by engaging me in foolishness" ditto | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 14225 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
Right, FK. I was under the impression that "a fool's errand" was from a Shakespearean quote and when I checked it out I did find that it has 2 meanings, both of which are circuitious. We need a little green man from Mars to sort out this issue because it is so subjective, abstract and semantical.  | ||
| Ferociouskitty Veteran Poster Username: Ferociouskitty Post Number: 855 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
I love language and words, so I'm glad you didn't mind my delving into the definition, Cynique. One of my funniest dating stories is that of a guy who refused to ever speak to me again because I used the word "connotation." He believed I was putting on airs because according to him, "people don't go around saying 'connotation' in conversation'." Well, this "people" do, lol! | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 14226 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
I love etymology, too. I often use big words on this site because over the years, I have acquired a large vocabulary. I don't believe in talking down to people and I hope that if someone doesn't know what a word I use means, they will look it up and learn something, - preferably how to use it in the right place. There is a thin line between being pedantic and being articulate and I tend to straddle it.  | ||
| Yvettep AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Yvettep Post Number: 3694 Registered: 01-2005 Rating: N/A |
LOL @ FK! | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 14230 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
FK's anecdote was amusing, wasn't it? Nothing indicates a person's insecurity more than his aversion to big words. Secure people use a big word not to impress, but because its meaning helps to explain the idea being expressed. | ||
| Ferociouskitty Veteran Poster Username: Ferociouskitty Post Number: 858 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
Cynique, I really need to write a book about my dating experiences. That story isn't even close to the funniest or the most bizarre. I'd have to use a pseudonym, of course, lol. I've toyed with the idea of putting some of the experiences in the novel I'm working on, but there are times when I think the stories warrant a novel of their own. | ||
| Yvettep AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Yvettep Post Number: 3698 Registered: 01-2005 Rating: N/A |
I agree, FK, you should! But-- You'd better make sure the Mr.-to-be could handle it. I'm sure you have told him the stories, but him knowing everybody is reading is another thing altogether! LOL | ||
| Yvettep AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Yvettep Post Number: 3699 Registered: 01-2005 Rating: N/A |
LOL @ us moving from the "swine flu" to FK's dating stories. (Hmmm, pigs...dates...sick...maybe not so off topic afterall ) | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 14237 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
Truth is stranger than fiction, FK. When you get famous you can write a memoir. Yes, Yvette, if we apply the "6-degrees-of- separation" theory, we ended up at just the right place in this discussion.  | ||
| Ferociouskitty Veteran Poster Username: Ferociouskitty Post Number: 859 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
Mr.-to-be knows all those stories, lol. Mostly, I'd use a pseudonym to avoid embarrassing my children. Or, I can take Cynique's advice: wait til I'm famous--and my kids are too old to care about Mom's 30-something antics--and write a memoir! |
