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Nels
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Post Number: 1281
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 06, 2009 - 08:45 pm: | 
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Now that the Obama (election) drama is over, the truth has begun to set in. Save or not, this young fellow is in waaaaaay over his head. Saddly enough, his biggest failures are yet to come. The short subject line of this posting speaks for itself. |
Ntfs_encryption
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Well, as much as I hate to admit it, I think you are on the money with this........... |
Chrishayden
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It was inevitable. Somewhere he was going to founder.
He has always been a man in a hurry, trying to get to that top spot--he spends a few minutes as an Illinois State Senator, he stops by the U.S. Senate for a cup of coffee, he runs for President. Makes it.
He was not ready.
He surrounded himself with liberal white folks, who never will admit or recognize how racist other white folks or THEY are. He is an academic and thinks that giving a speech or information means a damn thing.
He is not totally out of the box. He has to save the 2010 elections. At this moment, they will not increase Democractic strength.
If he keeps messing up, it will be a massacre like it was in '94 will Bill Clinton (everybody who lauds Bubbas genius forgets how he almost singlehandedly lost control of the Senate and the House)
He has to stop. Back off the Health Care. Back off all that big stuff. He is not going to get it.
If somebody BLACK had been at his side they would have told him that his main job was to GET RE-ELECTED and then he could do some stuff.
He was elected mostly to stop these two wars and stop all the deficit spending.
He has done neither.
He MUST realize that he is the President of the U.S. The tipping point was when he allowed himself to be manuevered into commenting on the Gates affair, something TOTALLY irrelevant to him, if he hadn't been a Harvard n****a totally scandalized that somebody would fart on another one.
I don't know. If he keeps going out in crowds, he ain't gonna have to worry about it. |
Cynique
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Post Number: 14046
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 12:44 pm: |
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My, my, Chrishayden, such astute political analysis. Obama should've been careful what he wished for cuz he got it and he's not a visionary who is seasoned enough to handle the job at hand. His larger-than-life image is shrinking, shriveling, and he seems oblivious to his own inadequacies, besotted with his psuedo self-confidence.
A black president was an idea whose time had come, but Obama was not the man for the position. I just hate how he is making himself vulnerable for the slings and arrows of those gloating, right-wing, insane, asshole Republicans.
Now take Oprah Winfrey. She knows how to throw her weight around. "O" flexed her muscles and Chicago bowed to her wishes, shutting down for 2 days the main thoroughfare in its downtown shopping district, where all the traffic was re-routed. A lot of folks were miffed and outraged by this inconvenience; especially white ones. But others turned out in full force making it a very successful event.
At least Oprah footed all of the bills, so Mayor Daly was grateful for the free publicity this affair netted Chi-town which is trying to beat out other cities vying for the honor of hosting the next Olympics.
Oprah knows black folks is s'posed to entertain, not try and lead the country. White people secretly think this but they wanted to give niggas their chance to screw things up. And so it goes.... |
Carey
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 04:38 pm: |
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You guys ever heard the joke about 4 negros picking their ass while sitting on a fence. *lol* |
Cynique
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Post Number: 14047
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 11:18 pm: |
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No, Carey. Why don't you stop diggin in your butt long enough to hop down from the fence and tell us this joke. Wassa matter, afraid the other 3 geeks might get mad at you?  |
Nels
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 12:20 am: |
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The Bama Man is really suffering right now. He has absolutely no idea of what's really coming down the pipe. Did he actually think for one moment that his intellectual arrogance could usurp 400+ years of institutional oppression? Oh, puhleeze pass me the Tums... |
Carey
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Five stars for Cynique. I didn't expect that comeback. That was pretty good.
Now, drop me a rope, am getting tired of looking up at your bloomers. :-) |
Yvettep
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Did he actually think for one moment that his intellectual arrogance could usurp 400+ years of institutional oppression?
Nah, probably just got tired of the "let's wait...it's too soon...the country's not ready" fears. Somebody had to be first. If it was up to most Black politicians, it would have been another 400 years before someone would have tried. |
Cynique
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 12:23 pm: |
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Yes, Yvette, Obama does deserve credit for his audacity of hope. He was in the right place, but at the wrong time. The country is in such a turmoil that he's at a terrible disadvantage. I think Hillary would be doing a better job than Barak because she'd have Bill to advise her, someone who has her best interest at heart. Obama doesn't have capable advisors and they will probably prove to not be very loyal. |
Cynique
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Post Number: 14049
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 12:27 pm: |
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If you're tired of having to look up at bloomers, Carey, you could always look down at your own. |
Carey
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We would be remiss if we didn't throw the race card on the table. It would probably be a good bet that Hillary could do better, she's white. Lets be honest, it's not the issues that people are upset about. The real issue is a black running the ship. So we can stop talking about the right advisors and all that mess. Look, when a message directed at student is seen on a delayed basis, something is rotten in the american pie.
What gets me is the Negroes that laid in the weeds while Bush was showing his ass and now all of a sudden they can't wait to point a finger at the new president's accused flaws. Get TFOOH.
I agree with Yvettep, if we/he sit on our hands it could be another 400 yrs before we see another leader of his qualities, black or white.
Sideshow negroes, sitting on a fence, they can't wait for the black man to bust his lip. Disgusting! |
Carey
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 12:50 pm: |
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Cynique, if you'd get your johnson out of my eye, I might be able to see. :-) |
Crystal
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 01:48 pm: |
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Cynique: "The country is in such a turmoil that he's at a terrible disadvantage."
This is why he got elected. I don't think anyone would have been able to get us out of this mess cleanly so 'they' figuered why not give it to the N so he can fall on his face and we can say "we gave them a chance". He was never meant to suceed. It happens all the time in the real world.
I'm still with you Mr. President! |
Cynique
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 02:09 pm: |
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Who is this ubiquitous "we" you are jabbering about, Carey. Are you supposed to be making revelations when all you're doing is stating the obvious? Who doesn't know that racism is ever present. And WHO on this board ever withheld criticism of Dubya? You just talk a lot BS, substituting emotion for intellect. What is really in your eye, keeping your from seeing, is the veil of your own idiocy, - a veil that probably doubles as an adornment on the chic little hat you wear, when you go into your cross-dressing mode.
Obama would'nt have been elected without white people but you are so steeped in your own flawed logic that you think racism is what is making him exhibit obstinacy instead of wisdom. Even other Blacks can't get past this nebulous health care plan that he is trying to bulldoze through. But you are mired down in idol worshipping, thinking Obama can do no wrong, afraid to call a spade a spade, unable to able to absorb the idea that politics is the art of compromise. |
Carey
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 03:46 pm: |
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"a veil that probably doubles as an adornment on the chic little hat you wear, when you go into your cross-dressing mode"
Poor Cyn-Cyn, you were doing fine but now you're dragging your peter. Where on earth did you find that clever phrase?
So I am running on emotions, huh? What would you call this: "Even other Blacks" - Cynique
Huh? What would you call that? Is that like "I have black friends" , huh? So, are you again looking through the eyes of white folks. Yeah, that's what it is. You've fallen back to your best Miss Tom act.
"unable to able to absorb the idea that politics is the art of compromise" - Cynique
So tell me, was that jewel meant to express your expert ability to compromise, or to say President Obama doesn't possess such skills? I hope it's not the later because if it is, am calling to call the dog catcher because you've lost your rabid mind. :-) |
Cynique
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 05:51 pm: |
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I found that clever phrase when I spotted you at the drug store buying a box of super tampons to stick up your loose ass. (We know you miss jail.)
And I certainly don't call saying that even Obama's black allies are luke warm about his health plan an example of being "emotional", or has Obama yet to acquire a reputation for possessing strong negotiating skills, - something you are too bedazzled to observe. Your arguments are so discombobulated that they aren't even worth responding to. Somewhere along the way, your brain really got fried... |
Chrishayden
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 11:43 am: |
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If it was up to most Black politicians, it would have been another 400 years before someone would have tried.
(But what the hell is it that Black Poliicians want to be a part of?
Looks to me like Murder Inc.)
just hate how he is making himself vulnerable for the slings and arrows of those gloating, right-wing, insane, asshole Republicans.
(He is doing it to himself. Worse, he is setting himself up for a killing. Back in the 60's, before they got Jack Kennedy, there was a terrible campaign of hate, especially down in Texas, where they were running full page ads accusing him of treason before he went.
They first create the climate for it,like Farrakhan admitted he had done with Malcolm X.
What you think it will do to Black Youth to see his brains blowed out.
Friends of mine insist that he fully knows what he is risking and going ahead with it. He needs to think of his young daughters. The King kids and Malcolms kids never were right after that.
He should stop screwing up--go for the full thing with Health care, let the Republicans "screw it up" and then put it on the back burner.
He had all these ideas and no idea that the country was so screwed up.
He needs to pull out these 2010 elections. If the Republicans can come roaring back I don't see the country holding together. |
Chrishayden
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 11:45 am: |
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So tell me, was that jewel meant to express your expert ability to compromise, or to say President Obama doesn't possess such skills? I hope it's not the later because if it is, am calling to call the dog catcher because you've lost your rabid mind. :-)
I found that clever phrase when I spotted you at the drug store buying a box of super tampons to stick up your loose ass. (We know you miss jail.)
(Don Ameche used to have an act like this. "The Bickersons" I think he called it. |
Carey
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 01:23 pm: |
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oooooh Cynique, you want to break out the jail jokes. Where is your creativeness. No, I don't miss jail. And, I don't miss the mess that landed me there. But there's one thang you don't have to worry about if you ever go there. You won't have to worry about the other chicks fighting over your package. Nope, wrinkles are only good with hot sauce.
Again Cynique, you're blinded by your inability to be honest with yourself. What are you saying here, Miss English professor? ....:And I certainly don't call saying that even Obama's black allies are luke warm about his health plan an example of being "emotional", or has Obama yet to acquire a reputation for possessing strong negotiating skills,"
Cynique, should your "or" be a "nor"? Are you still saying Obama doesn't have negotiating skills. Again, if you are saying that, lookout for the dog catcher. He's a black politician, and he's the President! How could he not be a great negotiator? Or are you saying he does have those skills? |
Cynique
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 02:45 pm: |
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Why would I waste my creative energy on a clod like you, Carey? And I guess you're an expert on wrinkles since I know a loser like you couldn't get anything but a hard-up old worried broad lookin for somebody to rescue her from the lonliness her inadequacies have bred.
And as far as your attempt at rebuttal go, just stuff it. I don't feel obligated to explain myself to you or to justify my views. If you don't like what I say that's tuff shyt. I am not seeking your approval about anything because I don't care whether a goof ball like you agrees with me or not.
And it's sure is a good thing Obama doesn't have another inept dunce like you on his team of advisors. He'd be worse off than he is now because you would simply reiforce the idea that being an academic intellectual with oratory skills is synonomous with being an astute politician.
Nobody has said that Obama doesn't have the potential to get better as time goes on. Like most presidents he's learning on the job and, like most presidents, members of his loyal opposition vent their frustrations. Now go back to your slavish worship of Obama's half-blackness. |
Cynique
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 02:58 pm: |
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Yes, Chrishayden, bickering is the name of the game anytime someone is drawn into an exchange with Carey. He can never just disagree with a point, he has to try and attribute things to the person who he disagrees with and usually ends up resorting to feeble attempts at analysing others to cover up his own flawed character.
I might add that you stack up pretty well when it comes to bickering, yourself, Chris. |
Bleekindigo
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YvetteP, I agree.
Didactic speeches aside--- Primed or not, our president is intelligent. So, I believe that he recognizes the many dangers in taking on this feat or not. And for that, I respect the man. Obviously, neither his popularity nor his re-election are pertinent issues-getting the ball rolling on this health care plan is his focus.
Has any major change to this country's make-up ever been without flaw, fight or assassination --on some level?
Most folks never really want what they ask for. They only think that they do. He was elected because his "Change" and "Hope" declarations resonated. However, the connotations of "Change" and "Hope" were never considered. I am a firm believer in the idea that one should always be careful of the things that he/she hopes for because cliche' or not, they just might get it.
Weeeeeeeell...when they do get it, they are not always prepared for it or they realize that they did not reeeeaaaallly want it. And, many do not do well with accepting responsibility, especially when there is a perfectly accessible scapegoat.
This is what happens when folks idolize and fashion messiahs. Now they know das' a sin! |
Cynique
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Everybody who posted on this thread expressed variations on the same theme, except Carey. He continues to blow air out of his ass as he chases his tail. |
Yvettep
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I think Hillary would be doing a better job than Barak
Cynique, I have to disagree. As much as most in the GOP absolutely despise her? And her husband? If we think the racism w/BHO is bad, just htink what the sexism against HRC would have been. Now, I do think she would have been more of an aggressive, take-no-prisoners, old-style Dem than the President is being. She might (might) have been better able to strong-arm her fellow Democrats to fall into line--if for no other reason than because she probably knows all their secrets! LOL! |
Yvettep
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What gets me is the Negroes that laid in the weeds while Bush was showing his ass
Carey, I am not sure I understand who you are referring to here. Most mainline Black pols (not to mention rank and file Black folk) showed nothing but extreme dislike for GWB. There was little the politicians could do due to the lack of Democratic power for most of his terms, as well as just a general lack of Democratic focus.
I think there are a few Black political types who have a kind of crabs-in-barrel attitude towards BHO--But there were certainly more during the early stages of the campaign. Now that they all call brotherman Mr. President they are at least giving the appearance that they have his back. And actually I think that many sincerely do support him. |
Cynique
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 06:51 pm: |
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Welllllll, Yvette, your description of how aggressive Hillary would be certainly sounds like she'd be doing a better job than Barak. And With Bill's advice, I certainly don't think she would've gotten bogged down in this health care reform proposal. Or do I think conservative GOP right-wingers despised her any more than they despise Barak.
Just for the record I also disputed Carey's accusations about "negroes" looking the other way when it came to Bush, and Bleekindigo also echoed my sentiments when I observed that Obama should've been careful what he wished for because he got it and all the baggage that came with it.
Bottom line, we all want Barak to do well. We just wish he'd act like the POTUS instead of the Chairman of the Speech Department at an ivy league college. |
Carey
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Yvettep, let me clarify that statement. I wasn't talking about the general public (for the most part), I was referring to the participants on this board.
To me, it seems like the conversations focus on what the president is doing wrong and not all the good he has brought to the process - across the board.
I loved Blingos take on the issue. Although Cynique tried in vain to "pork belly" her comments to Bleekingdigo's, they were distinctly different.
Statements like the ones that opened this post, and the following "yeah Butt" statement is a fine example of what I am talking about: ....."We just wish he'd act like the POTUS instead of the Chairman of the Speech Department at an ivy league college"
First, I don't know the address of "we" and I sure don't agree with that statement.
I agree Yvettep, I too believe many truely support him, but that has not been the majority flavor of this board. |
Cynique
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I didn't have "you" in mind when I used the word "we" in referring to the clear thinkers who posted on this thread, Carey. I wouldn't expect you to know what I'm talking about in regard to there being a difference between a President of the U.S. and a Chairman of a college studies department. That remark is over your head.
And what is all this BS about me trying to "pork barrel" something. Do you even know what that expression means? Off the mark, as usual. What is the "distinct difference" between my saying that "Obama should've been careful what he wished for cuz he got it and he's not a visionary who is seasoned enough to handle the job at hand." and Bleekindigo observing that: "I am a firm believer in the idea that one should always be careful of the things that he/she hopes for because cliche' or not, they just might get it...when they do get it, they are not always prepared for it..."
And were you able to stop kissing Obama's feet long enough to be impressed with Bleek's remarks about folks "idolizing and fashioning messiahs"?
Like a spoiled child, you just can't deal with having your hero subjected to scrutiny, Carey. It's not the fault of Barak's critics on this board if other posters don't speak up and co-sign to your blubbering. |
Yvettep
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I was referring to the participants on this board.
Whaaaa? So folks on this board were tolerant about GWB? No, no, no. Not even. There were times I almost wanted to stick up for the guy, people here were so hard on him.
I think the majority on this board "support" BHO. But we are equal-opportunity critique-ers here. He is POTUS--he should be critiqued. And held to a high standard. For example, don't get me started on his (lack of) response to post-Katrina levee breach NOLA...
I think that so far the "good" that he has done has been largely symbolic, and cannot be measured in actual policy. He, along with MO, has definitely set a new tone in the White House. And the image they present to the world is one of youthfulness, intelligence, and high energy. More Black folks have been through 1600 Penn Ave (in non-custodial roles) in the last 9 months than probably have been there since the place first opened its doors. And, as alluded to, he looks damn good in a suit--I know my own husband is getting one of those sky-blue silk ties for Christmas this year...
Symbolic. Aesthetic. But not policy.
I am one of those who is not too concerned about this: In this day of instant everything we seem to forget that most things take time. But this can only go so far.
Unlike what seems to be a prevailing theme here, I do not think that most of what he is doing is "mis-stepping." I think he is a lot savvier pol than many give him credit for. I do not think you can be otherwise coming up in the Chicago system. I think he knows he is not going to get everything he wants, but that he believes in the principle of asking for a mile to get the few inches that are most important to you.
To be honest, I am not even that concerned about what some see as his "throwing people under the bus." Any Black person who lived through the Clinton Presidency should be pretty immune to that kind of behavior now. And I actually prefer it to GWB's stand-by-your-man-at-all-costs philosophy. This is politics, not the high school dance. Sometimes you become a political liability and then, in the immortal words of a great man, "You gotta go, gotta go!"
So all in all, I'd say I still support him and think highly of him. But that does not mean that I am going to be mum on what I do not like about his presidency. For me, he is no longer in campaign mode so I feel no compunction to only focus on "all the good he has brought to the process."
And one more thing--speaking of campaign mode--I find it interesting that several people here seem to think already that he will be a one-term president. My opinion is that the GOP is still too fractured at this point. Not to say that that cannot change. But they'd need to all get behind a viable candidate right now (actually, like yesterday) and start raising a lot of funds immediately to make a one-term take-over a real possibility. That is why they are in such a panic to find their "Great White Hope," as one Freudian slipper in the party recently mentioned.
If that does not happen, BHO will have one huge advantage over whoever they go with: Most people will have gotten used to him. |
Carey
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Yvettep, your post illustrates my point. Although "YOU" qualified your indiffence with our president, many others are filled with a hecklers tone. There's generally no balance in their posts.
I've never entertained the desire for everyone to remain mum on what they do not like about his presidency, but you have to admit, most posts on this board fail to speak favorably of him as you've done.
Your posts and that of Bleeking's have a classy tone of understanding, and "standing by their man". Not at all costs, nor blind loyalty, but without the "dog pile on the rabbit" theme.
Some individuals are quick to "attach" their retoric to the down side/negative aspects of Obama's presidency and the posts of others that highlight them, trying to give the illusion that all the post are saying the same thing, when obviously, they ARE NOT. |
Yvettep
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Ohhhh, Carey, do not try to play me off against other posters on this board! It takes time to write long posts where you qualify every single thing. Discussion boards generally are not the place for that. That is why folks start blogs!  |
Carey
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*LOL* @ Yvettep. You caught that, huh? Well my dear friend, I tried. What can I say, if the shoe fits ...am selling the shoes.
Check out my next post - here. It's coming up in a second. I am a creature born from my evironment.
*** Carey squirms away with a s**t eating grin on his face *** |
Cynique
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Good post, Yvette. You struck just the right balance between the nay-sayers and the blind loyalist when it comes to Obama.
On this board, certain interactions about this subject tend to disintegrate into an exchanges of insults between people whose personalities clash. Attacking the messenger instead of the message is the vibe which resounds in these discussions, but that's what happens when a bunch of opinionated people confront each other. I, however, am not one to inhibit the passion of others, especially since I relish a good slam fest. And, so it goes.
As for me, I had such high expectations for Barak that I admit to being hyper-critical. To me, he is like a son, and when he errs, I forget that he is human. I really don't think he has the "common touch", as others seem to believe. He is, indeed, an elitist. He acts on a matter of principle rather than a matter of experience. He really was not in the thick of Illinois politics, but was on the fringes of the Democratic machine, the beneficiary of opportunists who ran interference for him. David Axelrod is who masterminded his campaign for the presidency, - a very shrewd Jewish fella. All Barak really brought to the table was his ambition and the audacity of hope. The black pols in Chicago jumped on his band wagon once it got rolling, but he did not inspire their enthusiasm previously because he didn't pay his dues in the Illinois senate, seemingly just occupying a seat there to make his resume look better. Now his political naivete is coming back to haunt him. IMO.
Anyhoo, as usual, Yvette, I commend you for being a model of civility in these discussions. |
Cynique
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Carey is apparently so caught up in trying to call me out on the use of the prepositions "or" and "nor", probably at the behest of his "huckleberry", that he used the phrase "Pork Belly" instead of "Pork Barrel". He didn't take into consideration that "nor" is the companion of "neither", and "or" is the companion of "either". I never used the word "neither" so I wouldn't use "nor". I meant what I said when I said "or is Barak noted for his negotiating skills." Furthermore I wouldn't put "nor" in the same sentence with "not" because that would be a double negative.
Yes, I am assuming that Carey meant the phrase "pork barrel" which is a political term as opposed "pork belly" which is what he used, and which, I believe, is a term used on the floor of the Stock Exchange.
And the ol spin doctor is still belly-aching over what he thinks is my attempt to ride the coattails of other posters when I said that all of the posts except his were variations on a theme. Guess he doesn't know what the word "variation" means. Implicit in everybody posts on this thread, except his, was that Barak was having trouble measuring up to the job, an idea that was couched in their reasons for believing this. |
Cynique
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And if you were really on your toes, ol dude, you would've caught my error in referring to "or" and "nor" as prepositions. It suddenly came to me, that these 2 words are "conjunctions", not "prepositions." Surprised no one caught that. A missed opportunity for somebody to take me down a notch.  |
Carey
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Boooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrring! |
Cynique
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Not as boring as your inept attempt to correct how I used this 2 conjunctions in a previous thread, Carey. You being a grammarian is like a butcher being a brain surgeon. Can you spell D-U-M-M-Y? |
Carey
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Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrring!
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooold news.
Okay, I will agree with every tag you've put on me. Yep, I can do that. But isn't that the beauty of life? Well, for some that is. See, some of us can be whomever we what to be throughout moments in our lives. We can laugh and play and be ourselves, without fear of what some other fool would think. But yet, there are others that are constitutionally incapable of being anything other than a card carrying fool. It's in their nature. Some do foolish thangs, and will admit to that, but you can beat some fools half to death and they will remain a full time fool. They cry in their loneliness and bitter views of life and move around like a Tornado.
I am not speaking to anyone in particular, but if a person tells me who they are, I'll believe them. An entrenched hater will raise their hand. Their main goal is to spoil the spirit of everyone and everything around them. They can't help themselves.
Lets listen ...... |
Cynique
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Post Number: 14090
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 14, 2009 - 03:54 pm: |
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Booooooooooooooooooring.Ooooooooooooooooold news. |
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