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     Nels AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Nels Post Number: 1272 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/25307.html | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 13934 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
Unfortunately, Obama is in over his head. But nothing could've prepared him for the terrible state of affairs that he inherited. It's becoming obvious that he's lacking the wisdom and foresight that comes with age, and he trips along with an almost idiotic optimism that does, indeed, make him seem clueless about his inadequacies. It doesn't help that he has surrounded himself with people who are, themselves, bunglers. Electing him president may yet turn out to be a curse rather than a blessing for him. IMO. | ||
| Nels AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Nels Post Number: 1273 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: |
Yeah, it does seem more and more like he's a bit lost. No real focus, much more rudderless thought now, and too much reliance on personal intellect instead of applied business savvy. | ||
| Thumper Veteran Poster Username: Thumper Post Number: 849 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: |
Hello All, I disagree. I think he made a mistake by having that press conference last night because the White House press corp are boobs! There's not an intelligent reporter in the bunch. Second, if he wasn't going to provide details about the health care bill he may should not have went on. BUT, on the other hand, he had to do something to stem the tide of the Republicans out there lying to us about health care when frankly, they don't know about the bills being worked on in Congress either because the bills have not all been fully formed yet. There's a bill in the House and the Senate that have not come out of committee yet. So those Republican fools dont know and neither does Obama. Obama cant speak on what he does not know. I believe he's in tough negotiations with the health care bill and he doesn't want to publicly get into the details, which is normal operating procedure in business. I realize that Obama is trying to stay about the usual political fray by not getting in the mud and rolling with the Republicans. If he's looking optimistic, his optimism is that he's banking on us the American people to see through the Republican bullsh_t. I also believe that he's a bit unrealistic if he expect the American people to get up off of their asses and get in there Congressmen faces and demand helath care reform. | ||
| Chrishayden "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Chrishayden Post Number: 8096 Registered: 03-2004 Rating: N/A |
The only significant departure from health care in the news conference came when Obama addressed last week's arrest of Henry Louis Gates Jr., an African American professor at Harvard University, as he tried to enter his Cambridge, Mass., home. "The Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home," said Obama, who stopped just short of asserting that race played a role in Gates' arrest Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/25307.html#ixzz0MBoqVGUN "THIS wasn't smart" Unfortunately, Obama is in over his head. But nothing could've prepared him for the terrible state of affairs that he inherited. It's becoming obvious that he's lacking the wisdom and foresight that comes with age, etc "Amen. Barry has been a man in a hurry, and others who are wiser than he obliged him in his headlong rush to the meatgrinder. His name, Barak means luck. He's gonna need lots of it to pull out of this. Health care is a titanic problem. He should have proceeded incrementally, taking on small portions. This "We gotta do this now" bit did not go down good with the last guy, and it won't play too much longer with him. He needs to go to the American people, say I have heard you loud and clear, let us take our time on this and regroup. Will he? also believe that he's a bit unrealistic if he expect the American people to get up off of their asses and get in there Congressmen faces and demand helath care reform "His biggest problem is most Americans LIKE the health care situation that they are in right now. The problem was simple--get affordable health care to those who need it. Instead we get a thousand page bill even he ain't read--stupid, but the result of getting all them Clintonites up in there with him, who are now heading for the high grass" | ||
| Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm Post Number: 10407 Registered: 04-2004 Rating: |
We are the WORST economic crisis in over seventy years. Were mired in two ground wars in foreign land and troublesome relationship with nation who once were out staunchest allies. And the foks who led us into this mess were the REPUBLICANS, the party that was suppose to represent good BUSINESS people and ECONOMIC practices and strong foreign policy savvy. Yet, now Pres. Obama in less than six months of office is suppose to seemlessly know all the answers and magically execute the cures to our ills? There is, indeed, a LONG list of clueless people in this country. But notwithstanding his shortcomings and mistakes, Pres. Obama would NOT be amongst those who rank highest on that list. | ||
| Chrishayden "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Chrishayden Post Number: 8102 Registered: 03-2004 Rating: N/A |
Yet, now Pres. Obama in less than six months of office is suppose to seemlessly know all the answers and magically execute the cures to our ills? "These people believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and that Elvis created Rock n Roll. What do you expect? See my posts about how they set up the Black Big City Mayors" There is, indeed, a LONG list of clueless people in this country "2000-2008 should have taught EVERYBODY that, if nothing else" | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 13940 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: |
Nobody expects Obama to effortlessly extricate the country from the mess it is in. Or is anybody crazy enough to think he has all the answers. It's his "naivete" which, rather than inspiring confidence, stirs skepticism. He is, in short, acting like a cheerleader instead of a quarterback! | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 13942 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
A new poll just out shows that Obama's approval rating has slipped below the 50% mark. He is quoted as saying that he doesn't understand why everyone is upset over him referring to the police action in the Henry Gates' case as being "stupid". That's Obama's problem; he just doesn't get it. He doesn't understand that he is no longer an average citizen. As President, he needs to exercise discretion about his public comments. Where are the Democratic elder statesmen who should be shoring him up? Even now he continues his silly trash talkin, razzin Chicago Cub fans because a White Sox pitcher threw a perfect game. Somebody, please save this man from himself. Republicans have to be as pleased as punch at Obama's reversal of fortune. If I'm raggin on Obama too much it's because I'm so frustrated by how he's giving those goddamned right-wing Republicans grist for their mill! | ||
| Crystal Veteran Poster Username: Crystal Post Number: 503 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
Well, all this may be true but he's never come across to me as a stupid man so hopefully he'll learn from these EARLY mistakes and watch his back because I know some of those advice giving, face grinning folks around him are really working to make him fail. It was a hard job when he asked for it, got it and now gotta do it. He just got there, don't give up on him yet. I'm still with you Mr. President! | ||
| Nels AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Nels Post Number: 1274 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
Ol' BO is in 'trubble'... :-) The presidency is not a testing ground for arrogant quippers. When a person is elected President of the United States, they are expected to hit the ground running while being able to determine if it's raining outside at the same time. No one is expecting Obama to be perfect, but he had better get his ducks lined up in a real hurry, and that's no joke. | ||
| Crystal Veteran Poster Username: Crystal Post Number: 504 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
Why the smiley face Nels? Obama is one of the most unprepared people for this role in recent history. Hardly anyone knew who he was only 4 years before he was elected. Bush-Clinton-Bush were all well prepared and came out running and look where they got us. Run straight into the ground [literally and sadly for some]. Even Reagan was more prepared [shudder!]. I thought the whole point of Obama's election was to give someone new a chance since the old guard has gotten us into so much trouble. Yes he's making mistakes - name a president [name a person] who hasn't. Just give him a chance. I agree that he needs to get it together pretty fast - that's the reality of the position. Then again, it's nothing new to a black man that he has to be mo' better mo'quicker and WATCH HIS BACK! | ||
| Nels AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Nels Post Number: 1276 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
Crys... The smiley face means exactly what it conveys - 'sh|t' happunz. | ||
| Troy AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Troy Post Number: 1872 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
Anyone who has read these baords prior to the elections know Obama had no bigger supporter than myself. That said, it boggles the mind that Obama would allow himeself to be drawn into that Skip Gates mess. THAT was acting stupidly. Cynique, I hear what you are saying regarding Obama's age and associated lack of wisdom. But I don't think that will be the reason he fails. I think his youthful idealism is refreshing. JFK was even younger when he was elected and he served during a period in our history that I would say is worst (certainly for Black folks) than when Obama took the reigns. Few would argue that JFK did a poor job during his time in office. I still assert that Obama can not be any worse than the previous president. ABM I do agree that Obama has enough on his plate for any leading to deal with; so why, pray tell, is he introducing the additional burden of health care into the mix? I do not think Barack has an 8 year horizon, he has accepted the fact that he will be a single term president. I predict the Republicans will win, quite easily, the next election. | ||
| Chrishayden "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Chrishayden Post Number: 8107 Registered: 03-2004 Rating: |
Gates is one of them Harvard Negroes. Their pal. They felt they had to come out They don't do it for the thousands of Negroes that go through this almost daily. | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2066 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: |
Okay, it's time I drop my 2 cents. Let me start with the Gates issue. We should never forget that we've never seen a man like President Obama. First, he's a black man. So, when I hear the question of why he committed on the Skip Gates injustice or hear someone say it wasn't a smart move, I say that's BullS**t. As a black man, he had a responisbilty to speak out. There was no better platform the that of the President of the USA. They cry when a million men march and continue to cry when the one-in-a-million-man marches forward. The same folks that are throwing rocks at him for not doing the moonwalk while cheering Michael Jackson are the same people saying he should now be quite. Cynics and haters generally stay that way until they die. They just can't see the good in anything. What's this mess about Obama failing? FAILING AT WHAT. WHAT'S THE GAGE AND WHO SETS THE STANDARD? Give me a freakin' break! I know, we should use the polls - ?. But wait, what does a poll really tell us? Twizzle Twazzle Twizzle Twone/It's time for all the kneejerk Negros to run home. I can't stand fence straddling Ni**as. Some people just ain't ready for Obama because they are resistant to change. | ||
| Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption Post Number: 3650 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: |
"As a black man, he had a responisbilty to speak out. There was no better platform the that of the President of the USA. They cry when a million men march and continue to cry when the one-in-a-million-man marches forward." OMG!!!! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! That's funny. Obama crossed the line when he commented about this media driven incident. As POTUS, he had no business making the comment (police being ignorant). His enemies are high fiving each other for this platter served gift. HE WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO LIVE IT DOWN AND THEY WILL NOT LET HIM. It's another log in the fire they are building underneath him.....and he handed it to them. I'm probably not as harsh on him as you are Ms. Cynique, but I must confess something here. My anxiety about this man is growing every day. He is making one blunder after another after being fresh out of the blocks. I'm becoming increasingly concerned. He has really bitten off more than he can chew with this national health issue and it appears that he and Nancy are going down with it. I hope the economy picks up soon (for obvious reasons) and I'll be glad when they put the nails in the coffin with this national health program (not that I want to see it fail but I don't think it is well planned at this time nor will it pass the sniff test for most Americans) and move on. I want this man to succeed. I've heard all the arguments against him but regardless, as a black American, I feel we all have a stake in the success of this administration whether one wants to admit it or not. If he fails, how does such an historical debacle serve the interest of black America? | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 13944 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
Oh, puleeze. If, as president, ol "law-and-order" advocate George W. Bush had spoken out defending white cops for threatening to arrest a black man for breaking into his own house, Cary would've been pissin on himself. I'm sure he never in his life defended any of the stupid things Bush did, on the basis of his being a white man obligated him to speak out on issues he had a partisan interest in. Yet, Carey thinks Obama should have a free rein to go into his black man mode, bitchin about real or imagined slights. Talk about a knee-jerk negro; Carey needs to check out the man in the mirror. Tweezel-twazzle be damned. And, yes, what is all of this mess about Obama "failin"? Those are your words, Carey, - you doin your usual spin when tryin to make a point. I didn't say Obama was failing because "failing" or "succeeding" is indiscernable when it comes to the morass this country is mired in. It's all about having a stalwart president who inspires confidence, and the sooner Obama realizes this, the better. Taking a step in the right direction, Obama has finally had a revelation and realized that his remarks were inappppropirate as the POTUS, and that's why he's breakin his neck to do damage control. My gripe with Barak continues to be the "baby boomer" mindset that influences his approach to everything. What originally passed as "coolness" is starting to emerge as cluelessness. He needs to grow up and embrace the austerity of the office and think before he speaks. Of course, considering that I am old enough to be Barak's momma influences my view of his puerile demeanor. As for JFK, he was only in office a couple of years during which time he, too, stumbled. Age matters. An honest assessment of his presidency would only rate about a "C-". Because of his martyred status, people like to believe that he was going to be the savior to get us out of Viet Nam but - he wasn't headed in that direction at the time of his death. | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 13945 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
Needless to say, that in my opinion, the remarks of NTFS voided the rants of Carey. | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2069 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
"If he fails, how does such an historical debacle serve the interest of black America" Massa, I's not like the rest of dem darkies. "If he fails, how does such an historical debacle serve the interest of black America" Well, tell us about George Bush and his debacle. Let us in. | ||
| Thumper Veteran Poster Username: Thumper Post Number: 850 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
Hello All, I'm on my Ol' Grayhead side on this one. We are closer than we have ever been to getting health care reform. But, what's tripping me out is the fact that now everybody who wanted it is now getting cold feet. How SILLY! Maybe it's me, but I haven't got over that my health care premium DOUBLED last year and my benefits stayed the same. I must be the only one on this board that buy medication and don't nearly faint every time the cashier rings them up! When did the American people become such fu_kin' scardey CATS! This whole nation is acting like they are a naked white woman running through the projects!! We are running scared about health care reform. We don't want the prisoners in Gitmo to be held in the US supermax prison...Get a grip people! When has this country ever, EVER, had a problem LOCKING UP PEOPLE and KEEPING them on the lock down!! We as black folks should be able to vouch for that!! I ain't never heard of it. Hell, that's the one thing the US is the world leading authority on. If Obama had came in and did EXACTLY what the other presidents did in the first 6 months, folks would still have their lips poked out! Now Obama has already said that if you like your health care than you can keep it. Frankly, I don't see NOTHING wrong with making sure that health insurance companies can no longer deny folks coverage. I don't see nothing wrong with making the pharmaceutical companies lower their drug prices. And as far as Gates is concerned. My mother had the same EXACT thing happen to her a few months ago, except she was already in her home and didn't break in. She acted just like Gates did and blessed out the detectives, among some of the things she told them was that if she had needed them and called them, she would have gotten that type of response. Unlike Gates, my mother had to deal with detectives, patrolmen AND a SWAT team which had her entire house surrounded! So, no, Gates was not an isolated incident. And if the President of the US aint suppose to speak out on it...then damn it, who is? Because when it is all said and done, Gates was in his own damn house, minding his own damn business. And if he wanted to take a crow bar and break every damn window out and bust up every door, that's HIS RIGHT! AND I still haven't heard Why Gates was arrested. The police is suppose to be trained to take all kinds of verbal abuse and keep their cool. | ||
| Yvettep AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Yvettep Post Number: 3598 Registered: 01-2005 Rating: N/A |
I may be mistaken, but I believe that the President was asked directly about his take on the Gates incident. Had he declined to comment, or had soft pedaled his response, we'd be sitting here complaining that he was distancing himself from Black folks. Bottom line is--he was inaugurated about 8 months ago. I am sure someone has calculated how much he has accomplished in that time compared to previous presidents. My guess is that he is not doing so terribly by those standards--make of "those standards" what you will. Meanwhile the President cannot be all bad: he invited both men to the White House for a beer. He's still my man if he believes there is nothing too large that a bottle or two of beer cannot cure! LOLOL | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 13947 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
I was not attacking Gates' behavior, as should have been evidenced by my repeated references to my dislike of white cops. I was criticizing Obama for inteceding on behalf of his friend Skip Gates, when he admittedly didn't have the full story, and he did campaign on a ticket professing to be a man running for president who just happened to be black, not a black man running for president who was going to take up black causes. That's why he distanced himself from Reverend Wright. As president of the United States his role is to speak more judiciously rather than off-handedly accusing policemen of acting stupidly. Shades of Dumb-dumb Dubya. And there are, incidentally, those in Chicago who feel if he wanted to speak out as a black man, he could've expressed his sympathy to the many families affected by the Burr Oaks cemetery scandal since these people comprise his Chicago constituency. But that required too much awareness. As for his health care program, nobody is against providing all of our citizens access to medical treatment, but it should be noted that there is no guarantee that Obama's plan will lower the premiums of those who already have health care. Whatever. Obama can't even get all of the Democrats on board for his particular plan, and those who are on his side are urging him to proceed with caution since he, himself, can't even come up with specifics about it. But, no. He prefers to bulldoze his way through the opposition something which will make him look even worse if he can't get his bill passed. Meanwhile the Republicans are just layin back in the cut, snickering among themselves. Me, I'm hard on Presidents. They have to prove themselves to earn my unconditional support. Obama and the boobs who are advising him are coming across as a bunch of slackers so far. But he has 4 years to get his act together and I wish him luck. | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2070 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: |
"As president of the United States his role is to speak more judiciously rather than off-handedly accusing policemen of acting stupidly" See, there's the problem. Who said that's his role? Who said he can't comment on a stupid policemen. I can't find that listed in the duties of the President and I doubt anyone else can either. "That's why he distanced himself from Reverend Wright" I don't know if you play golf but there's a thing called a mulligan. When a golfer blows a shot, they can take it back. Lets pretend we are playing golf. We realize that your Reverend Wright analogy was a horrible swing. It's okay if you take your mulligan ... RIGHT NOW! What sane mind would compare the antics of Reverend Wright to the incident of Skip Gates? Thumper wrote: "So, no, Gates was not an isolated incident. And if the President of the US aint suppose to speak out on it...then damn it, who is?" I say, HELLO AND AMEN! Cynique, why do you continue to lift up your dress? .... "there are, incidentally, those in Chicago who feel if he wanted to speak out as a black man, he could've expressed his sympathy to the many families affected by the Burr Oaks cemetery scandal since these people comprise his Chicago constituency. But that required too much awareness" **WARNING** OMG!!! Who in Chicago or around the world are defending the actions of the slugs that dug up bodies in Burr Oaks. The rules are clear, 1 Mulligan per posts. You're dropping fart bombs all over the place. The beat goes on! "Obama can't even get all of the Democrats on board" ..."Meanwhile the Republicans are just layin back in the cut, snickering among themselves" What are the Republicans snickering about? I think I know. Some are snickering instead of drawing attention to themselves by squeling with joy as they pull their buddies fingers outta their ass along with fence straddling negroes. The others are probably laying back because that's just what they do. Assimilation is very dangerous. Some negroes can't handle the truth and consequently run up the ass of the white man, thinking they can be JUST LIKE HIM. | ||
| Chrishayden "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Chrishayden Post Number: 8108 Registered: 03-2004 Rating: N/A |
So, when I hear the question of why he committed on the Skip Gates injustice or hear someone say it wasn't a smart move, I say that's BullS**t. As a black man, he had a responisbilty to speak out. (I must respectfully disagree. He is the President of the United States. He is bound not to get involved in such matters. The fact that he is kissing butt and inviting folks to have beers with him reveals that he realizes what a big mistke he made. | ||
| Chrishayden "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Chrishayden Post Number: 8109 Registered: 03-2004 Rating: N/A |
Y'all are not ready. | ||
| Yvettep AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Yvettep Post Number: 3600 Registered: 01-2005 Rating: N/A |
The fact that he is kissing butt and inviting folks to have beers with him reveals that he realizes what a big mistke he made. Here, you and I agree, Chris. This "teaching moment" gesture is more about the President than anything else. | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2071 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
"The fact that he is kissing butt and inviting folks to have beers with him reveals that he realizes what a big mistke he made" I don't look at it as kissing butt. I also do not believe he thought he made a misstake. I think his latest moves are political ploys. I don't believe he took back his statement about the actions of the police officer? From a political statepoint, he knows that white folks/voters do not like it when one of their's is called on the carpet. So, Mr. Obama is just throwing them a bone. When is it kissing ass to have a meeting of the minds while drinking beer? We all know a person should keep their enemies near! This is all game at the highest level. Lets be real, the police DID drop all charges. Therefore, somebody messed up and it sure wasn't Mr. Gates. "He is bound not to get involved in such matters" Again, that is simply not true! That statement is simply an opinion without merit. Bound by WHAT? Show me. A deeper look into that sentence requires a look at the word "involved". | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 13948 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
Poor ol Carey continues to think small, apparently incapable of expanding his mind and realizing that for the President of the United States to maintain any kind of credibility, he should try and project a dignified statesman-like demeanor that commands respect, and gives the semblance of a leader who has the best interests of all Americans at heart. This doesn't have to be written down. Anybody with any sense can figure it out. The POTUS is not some guy in the street, given a license to spout a lot of smack. Mired down in a mentality that may play well in a barbershop where BS is the order of the day, your feeble argument may stir a little interest, Carey. But in terms of the world at large you sound silly, like somebody who confirms their ignorance by defending it. | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 13949 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
And of course, you misconstrued what I said about Obama's misstep in regard to the Burr Oaks cemetery scandal, Carey. I didn't say he should speak out against the ghouls. I implied that a lot of his Chicago homies would've appreciated him sympathizing with their plight in regard to the descration of their loved ones' graves. | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2073 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
We are not in a barbershop and many have agreed with me! All closed eyes ain't sleep. You did "try" to compare Burr Oaks to Skip Gates. If not, then why was it mentioned? I know, it's about his homies. I wonder if the homies should be the concern of a POTUS ...."WEST SIDE IN THE HOUSE" The defense rests it's case. The "other" side is doing a perfectly fine job of presenting my case for me. Now remember, NO MORE MULLIGANS, you are already in the hole. You're on your own. Speaking of the barbershop, go get your hair done -- you might learn a little sumtin'. The homies might put you up on a little game. Move around. | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 13951 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
Have you lost touch with reality? Who are the "many" who have agreed with you?? Even your boy, chrishayden deserted you saying you "weren't ready" and Yvette noted that the president has learned his lesson. Just another example of how cock-eyed YOU are. One thing is sure, Obama doesn't agree with you or he wouldn't be doing an about face. Not to mention Skip Gates, himself, who has chilled out. And you did try to distort things by saying I was criticizing Obama for not attacking the grave robbers when my point was that he could've gained some favor by sympathizing with the victims of the grave robbers. Another example of your myopia. I can't even give credit for doing a good job of trying to make yourself look like a winner. Sorry babe, wishin don't make it so. Your defense of Obama's faux pas is pathetic. Even you should see it by this time. | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 13952 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
I might add, Carey, that you seem totally incapable of separating Skip Gates' response from Obama's response to Gates' response. In your mind, these separate actions have merged. But they are separate incidents. As a private citizen, Skip Gates' impulsiveness is understandable; as POTUS Obama's impulsivness was unprofessional. Get it, numbskull?? | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2074 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
I may be a numbskull, but I still rest my case. Keep going you are doing fine. Yeah, Chris is my guy but like all true men, we have the courage and respect to disagree on a few fine points. | ||
| Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm Post Number: 10409 Registered: 04-2004 Rating: N/A |
Simple question for Dr. Gate's neighbors, the Cambridge PD and their sympathizers: How many aging, greying, balding, bifocaled men - Black, White or other - do you see commit home invasions...through the FRONT (DAYAM) DOOR? The obvious answer to that question is WHY Pres. Obama's initial commentary of how "STUPIDLY" the police handle this situation was dead-on. Too bad Obama pussied out on the backend. | ||
| Yvettep AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Yvettep Post Number: 3602 Registered: 01-2005 Rating: N/A |
The plot thickens: The woman who made the 911 call that led to the arrest of Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. never referred to black suspects when she called authorities for what she thought was a potential break-in. Police in Cambridge, Massachusetts, released the 911 phone call Monday. In the call, Lucia Whalen reports seeing "two larger men, one looked kind of Hispanic, but I'm not really sure, and the other one entered, and I didn't see what he looked like at all." ... "Let me be clear: She never had a conversation with Sgt. Crowley at the scene," Murphy told CNN by phone. "And she never said to any police officer or to anybody 'two black men.' She never used the word 'black.' Period." She added, "I'm not sure what the police explanation will be. Frankly, I don't care. Her only goal is to make it clear she never described them as black. She never saw their race. ... All she reported was behavior, not skin color." ... In the police report, filed by Crowley, he says he spoke with Whalen outside the home before he approached Gates' house. "She went on to tell me that she observed what appeared to be two black males with backpacks on the porch of Ware Street," the report says. "She told me that her suspicions were aroused when she observed one of the men wedging his shoulder into the door as if he was trying to force entry." Murphy also disputed accounts of her client as a white woman in the traditional sense. "The fact is, she's olive-skinned and of Portuguese descent. You wouldn't look at her and say, necessarily, 'Oh, there's a white woman.' You might think she was Hispanic," Murphy said. Murphy's comments add yet another layer of intrigue to the July 16 arrest that has prompted heated discussion across the nation on race relations in America, including President Obama weighing in on the issue.... Full story: http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/07/27/gates.arrest/index.html | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2075 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
OH BOY, the plot thickens indeed. Lets talk about that beer bash. I kinda-sorta had a feeling how that was going to go but NOW I think ol'crowley better buy the beer and walk very softly. I don't know who's going to be at the party but I wonder if Crowley really knows whos coming to dinner? I mean, the other two main guests are some bad boys. Them brothas have been somewhere. I am reminded of the movie Harlem Nights ..."Hello son, tell your mother am not coming home" For real though, if some are saying Obama kissed a little ass, this Crowley dude will never be the same. He will no longer be able to pass for white. He is going to have his soup coolers so far up skip and dips booty holes that his DNA will say, Negro Lover. | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 13953 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
And once again the great spin master Carey goes into orbit, standing on the perimeter, eggin folks on, trying to transform a siutation that was not racial in origin into a show down between brothas and pigs. Puleeze. Obama opened up a Pandora's box with his knee jerk response. Since he didn't know all of the details he should've had sense enough to keep his big purple-lipped mouth shut. The cop involved has nothing to worry about. Every white police officer in America has his back. And these feeble attempts to portray Obama and Henry as bad niggas falls flat. They are guilty of losing one of the few things black men have going for them. Their coolness.  | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2076 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
***warning*** I am about to do my guy white guy impression OMG!!!! "And once again the great spin master Carey goes into orbit, standing on the perimeter, eggin folks on, trying to transform a siutation that WAS NOT RACIAL IN ORIGIN into a show down between brothas and pigs" What, fat meat ain't greasy and pig ain't pork?! WTH! Not racial? Okay, you tell me what it is when a police officer doctors his official report to include black stereotypes? | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 13954 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
It's called, "covering your ass". Any cop of any race will do it. Plus, the neighbor who triggered the whole incident was not racially motivated. | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2077 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: |
Don't even try that one. The trigger man was not Driving the getaway car. This is not a gangster movie. The racist cop was "trying" to drive home a racist point, he doctored his report and you said it - to cover his racist ass. "Plus, the neighbor who triggered the whole incident was not racially motivated" Now that's my point! She wanted it to be clear that she was not the one that said anything about a black man. Don't drift off, we are not talking about any cop. We are talking about this slime bag that jumped off this whole thang. See, his pen was probably following his mind. He just knew it had to be a big black man breaking into a home. Through the door, he wanted it to be a brotha. That's why he showed his ass and now he's about to give up some ass. You may not agree with this but I think he should go to the white house and kiss Obama right on them big purple lips and beg for his job. That's right, I told you Obama wasn't a punk and he had this thang on lockdown. You better start listening to me and get out of your own way. Obama is a bad (shut yo mouth). BTW, are we reading the same thing because for the life of me I can't see how you would not consider this a racist thang. Not you, the one that said she hated white cops. You do remember saying that? But, maybe you should tell my why that's so. I mean, did the good ol fair minded white cops not let you tricker treat after dark or what? Or is that something all policemen do, you know.....to cover their ass. You must have lost at your spade game because something just ain't right. | ||
| Nels AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Nels Post Number: 1277 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
Troy -- "I do not think Barack has an 8 year horizon, he has accepted the fact that he will be a single term president. I predict the Republicans will win, quite easily, the next election." I couldn't agree more. | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 13957 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
Oh, give it up, Carey. Everything you said stems from you going into your Cary world of fantasy - where you just make up shyt and create scenarios to reinforce your sorry arguments. In the first place, you misquoted me when you said I said the cop was trying to cover his "racist" ass. What I said was that all cops try to cover their asses. Furthermore, if you can read this policeman's mind on the basis of how you imagined he thinks, he can do the same with you, and the conclusion he could very logically come to is that you're a black man who can't accept the fact another black man needed to flex his manhood by challenging a white cop and risk being arrested instead of cooperating and filing a complaint later. Racism is in the eye of the beholder and none of us is exempt from being prejudiced when judging other races. And this includes me when it comes to hating white cops. BTW, I've mentioned several times that I no longer play on-line Spades but have switched to Bridge. So, as usual, you are barkin up the wrong tree. And it's obvious you are not a cardplayer because you can't think past your nose. | ||
| Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption Post Number: 3654 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: N/A |
"Well, tell us about George Bush and his debacle. Let us in." Oh? What would you like to know? It's pretty well documented. I'm surprised you are clueless about his 8 year reign as president...... | ||
| Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption Post Number: 3655 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: N/A |
"Oh, puleeze. If, as president, ol "law-and-order" advocate George W. Bush had spoken out defending white cops for threatening to arrest a black man for breaking into his own house, Cary would've been pissin on himself. I'm sure he never in his life defended any of the stupid things Bush did, on the basis of his being a white man obligated him to speak out on issues he had a partisan interest in. Yet, Carey thinks Obama should have a free rein to go into his black man mode, bitchin about real or imagined slights. Talk about a knee-jerk negro; Carey needs to check out the man in the mirror. Tweezel-twazzle be damned."  ............. | ||
| Yvettep AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Yvettep Post Number: 3603 Registered: 01-2005 Rating: |
I will not even try to get into the middle of the battle of the Double-Cs. But I think it is important to point out a key difference. Speaking for myself: I was happy as all get out that the President spoke out so bluntly. I was doing high fives to my computer screen and air-triple bumping Obama. He clearly said what many folks--including me--thought and said aloud to significant others, on discussion boards, at the barber shop, etc. But even as I experienced a temporary rush, I also knew that as a sitting president the move would come back to bite him in the butt. Actually, he lasted longer than I laid odds on coming back with a semi-retraction. So there is a difference between -agreeing with what the president said and his right to hold that opinion and -feeling it was a stupid political move to have said it out loud, on camera, in those words. To me, he only compounded things with all this beer-drinking stuff after the fact. I wish, once he had done it, that he would have left it at that. He could have chastised the American people and the media for being so easily distracted when there are so many other important things to talk about and do. But who knows--maybe this move will work for him. I seriously doubt it, though. I think the GOP may have just found their Joe the Cop. The only good thing is that this happened so early in his presidency. We Americans have a very short memory and attention span and the GOP will have a hard time keeping this on the front burner. | ||
| Yvettep AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Yvettep Post Number: 3604 Registered: 01-2005 Rating: N/A |
I predict the Republicans will win, quite easily, the next election. Only if they can rally behind a single viable candidate (or, at least no more than 3) really, really soon. I mean, like, tomorrow. It can happen. Look at how BHO came out of virtually nowhere. But they are a pretty fractured party right now and I can not see them winning in their current state. | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2080 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
"So there is a difference between -agreeing with what the president said and his right to hold that opinion and -feeling it was a stupid political move to have said it out loud, on camera, in those words" Exactly! There's no doubt the remark sparked different reactions from different cultures. Unfortunately those cultures are divided along color lines (in this country). If we then add in the fact that most humans covet the comfort of blending into a popular opinion, it was a poor political move. As other postees have pointed out, Mr Gates did not break any laws, so, we are back at the actions of the police officer. Consequently, we again find ourselves chasing the tail of racism, prejudice, ignorance and fear. What I find the most interesting about this whole issue is how many blacks are reacting to Obama's "olive branch". I wonder if some are looking at it from a political standpoint or from a black pride point of view? We know there are some that say "come strong or don't come at all". Along those lines, I am sure others are saying he let the MFer off to easy in the first place :-). Now, see, if he wasn't the president, him and ol'skip might take Crowley into a private room and stole on his ass *lol* ...that probably wouldn't be a good political move either. But I bet that would usher in a few booty bumps and high fives. I wonder if Obama can throw a good right cross? If I was a cartoonist I would draw a picture of little Skip Gates riding on the back of Sgt Crowley's while Obama slugged him with an uppercut. The caption would say, "Who's Stupid Now Motherf**ker?". In an adjacent picture we would see a stern looking Judge Joe "Brown" standing outside two large ornate doors with his arms folded in front of him. The caption would say ...Court In Session -- "The Peoples Court". | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2081 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
Heads up, this thread has inspired a blog post. Particularly the last few posts. In part, it will include my biggest nemesis. I will give credit where credit is due :-). I will do them right **slanted eye**. I think I will even take a few jabs at myself. The names "might" be changed to protect the innocent. I am looking for a picture of Judge Joe Brown And Joe Louis ...The Brown Bomber? | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 13959 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
What postees said Gates didn't break any laws? He did. He was guilty of disorderly conduct. So you start out by not getting your facts straight. You're beating a dead horse, Carey. Nothing you are seeking to bring to light is new. Everybody knows racism exists and different people react to it in different ways. So be it. There can be no meaningful dialogue here, because you aren't getting input from white people. All you're doing is providing a forum for niggas to squabble.  As far as I'm concerned the debate has dissipated, so keep me off your blog page. If I wanted to appear on it, I would go there on my own. | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2082 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
Oooooh, who said anything about you appearing in one of my blog posts? And who you calling a nigga, NIgga. *lol* | ||
| Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption Post Number: 3658 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: N/A |
"To me, he only compounded things with all this beer-drinking stuff after the fact. I wish, once he had done it, that he would have left it at that. He could have chastised the American people and the media for being so easily distracted when there are so many other important things to talk about and do." Well, the reality is this Ms. Yvette, Obama just gave his political enemies more ammo against -not for him. Plain and simple. Secondly, I know there is a sizable number of Negroes who believe he did the right thing by kibitzing in this debacle which probably would have faded as quickly as it started had he not made those very unwise remarks. Yes, the cops can act stupidity and recklessly. I don't defend that fact. But as POTUS -he should have never commented about the entire incident. There is no rational nor advantageous reason he should have involved himself in the issue. I think it is pathetic that the POTUS would make such a politically disastrous move and then invite the alleged victim and perpetrator to the White House for a beer(?). WTF is that....???? "But who knows--maybe this move will work for him. I seriously doubt it, though. I think the GOP may have just found their Joe the Cop." I seriously doubt it too. And yes, he probably just gave the GOP a Joe the Cop and political fodder for his enemies to politically rally the police against him if he survives this first term. "The only good thing is that this happened so early in his presidency. We Americans have a very short memory and attention span and the GOP will have a hard time keeping this on the front burner." This is also true. But the conservatives will never let this die. You can bet on that! | ||
| Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption Post Number: 3659 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: N/A |
"Twizzle Twazzle Twizzle Twone/It's time for all the kneejerk Negros to run home." Good. The bus will be here in fve minutes. Do you need change.....? | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 13961 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
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| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2083 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
No brotha, am cool, you'll need that change for your transfer. And you can take Ms. Jackal with you. Be sure to ask for the super senior citizen discount :-) | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 13962 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
Cool, hell. You're toast, jailbird. So, stfu.  | ||
| Crystal Veteran Poster Username: Crystal Post Number: 505 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
Well, looks like they're family. http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Henry-Gates-has-50-Per-Cent-Irish-Roots--515684 52.html Maybe we can let it go now since we all KNOW how it can get with family. LOL! | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2084 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
Oooooh, you want to hit a brotha with a garbage can. Cynique, you're slipping, you can do better than that. What kind of bird don't fly? -- a jailbird. Crystal, I saw a special on TV in which he traced his roots to Ireland. I was wondering if he was calling home. Crystal baby, I am trying to be good. | ||
| Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption Post Number: 3660 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: N/A |
"And you can take Ms. Jackal with you. Be sure to ask for the super senior citizen discount." Ya know, I don't know what kind of juvenile cheap shot that was supposed to be Carey. Kinda surprised you said that. You will be very lucky to live as long and maintain your faculties as the woman you attempted to besmirch with that petty chickenshit dig. Since when did you develop a sense of arrogance in a failed attempt to mock someone older than you? I thought you were an old school guy, raised to show reverence and respect for those who came before you. Has this X-Gen coon culture of disrespect rubbed off on you that much? Just curious...... | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 13963 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
Remarks about my age, just roll of my back, NTFS. I don't consider them insults. All things considered, being young has almost become synonymous with being - "stupid".  I can do better, Carey, but you don't rate anything better. (Unless your ex-cellmate knows something good about you that I dont... )  | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2085 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
I am surprised you said that as well. You've been around these part for some time. I know you've heard her say she doesn't need any bleeding hearts. Besides, she is not much older than I and she opened the door with her jailbird thang. I took her remark as a playful jest and thus, I threw one back. There's no sucking ass in TCs. No brownie points for being the knight in white armor. If I was standing next to her or in a crowd with her, there is now way I would use the words or vibe that I do on this site. At this spot I just go with the flow. Besides, she's a big girl. Didn't you see that picture she posted ...VA VOOM! Where is my viagra *lol* | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2086 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
Ooooooh, you have jokes, Cynique. I would come back but I don't want your boy toy to get upset with me. | ||
| Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption Post Number: 3662 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: |
"I would come back but I don't want your boy toy to get upset with me." Boy toy? Not hardly. Nice try. But I guess my sensitively was riding on the coat tails of what I saw about an hour before coming to the site. I was in my car at a red light when I saw this young disrespectful bytch screaming at this elderly woman. The woman was probably old enough to be her grandmother. I think the elderly lady beat her to a parking spot in front of this coffee shop and this ditsy disrespectful tramp starting into this profane diatribe. The elderly lady was in shock and could hardly speak. She did not know how to respond to this enraged fool. I wanted to jump out the car and use the same language she was using against this woman. The light turned green and there were four cars behind me. I had to suck it up and drive on. But it pissed me off to see a young person so disrespectful towards a woman who was clearly much older than her, over something so petty. I guess coming from the Mid West (can’t get into this So Cal disregard for age differences –e.g. kids and very young people calling much older people by their first names, etc…) and being an old school guy, this type of language towards an much elder person in a temper tantrum, struck a nerve with me. It was over the top and totally unnecessary. Anyway, you explained yourself. I'm done..... | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 13964 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: |
I appreciate your kind concern, NTFS,and the violin music playin in the background is really touching as it conjures up the image of a doddering old lady, lookin over her glasses, her arthritic fingers huntin and peckin on the keyboard, but - I don't want anybody to bite their tongue when goin one-on-one with me; I come on pretty strong, myself, and I am prepared to get as good as I give. If I couldn't take it, I wouldn't dish it out. I would prefer to be treated as an equal rather than an "elderly" old broad who hides behind her age when the going get tough. When other people play the age card, this gives me an excuse to go for their jugular.  Bring it on, - one and all.  | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 13965 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
Wonder who gave super b i t c h one star?????? I said, "bring it on", not retreat into anonymity. | ||
| Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption Post Number: 3664 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: N/A |
"I would prefer to be treated as an equal rather than an "elderly" old broad who hides behind her age when the going get tough. When other people play the age card, this gives me an excuse to go for their jugular." Understood. I guess it's ingrained in me. I was raised to respect my elders. I know it's archaic and probably offensive to many, but it is what it is. But to further your point, there was an elderly black woman and her daughter who lived above my apartment some years ago. Well, one day I was getting out my car in my uniform and the older lady said, "Oh, are you in the Navy?" I said, "Yes, ma'am". She then said, "I was in the Navy in WWII. I was a WAVE". I said, "Yes, ma'am. That was blah...blah...blah..." She then said, "Oh, you don't have to call me ma'am, just call me Margret". "I said, "Yes, ma.....uh....Ok...". About a week later, she was talking to me and again (instinctively), I said, "Yes, ma'am...." She then said, "Um, listen, you don't have to say, ma'am, just call me Margret". Again, "Uhhhh...oh....Ok..." Well, the third time I guess I caught her in bad mood. She started talking to me about what ever and I did it again..."Yes, ma'am....". Uh oh!! She stared me dead in the eyes and snarled, "Boy!! What did I tell you about calling me ma'am!!!??". That was that. So, I can relate to your dismissal and resistance to the helpless elderly old broad stereotype. Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2095 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
I can relate to your story. I am also a yes,maam guy. I've found most women (depends on their age) enjoy those words. In fact, if we didn't use those words we would be asked "what did you say?!". It's a form of respect, but we are talking about a WAVE. On that note, I never went in the field. I tried to stay as far away from guns and death as I could. On several occasions I was called a tit-less WAF. Of course I would get ignorant and tell them I may be a WAF without tits but I'll be here to open their body-bag and take the dog tags off their nuts. At times the shit would get ugly. | ||
| Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption Post Number: 3666 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: N/A |
"On that note, I never went in the field. I tried to stay as far away from guns and death as I could." Well, considering the bullshit interdictions and wars this country has indulged in over the past 45 years, I'd say you did the right thing..... | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 13967 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
What's this? The next thing I know, NTFS and Carey will be having a beer together. Burp. | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2097 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
Frightening isn't it. Maybe, maybe a cup of coffee but I do not drink beer! When I did drink (never a big drinker) I preferred cognac. Then the big question, where would that leave you? | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2098 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
You know there's that 1 star bandit running around here. Maybe if they come out of hiding, yawl can throw down a few. *burb* :-( | ||
| Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption Post Number: 3668 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: N/A |
"What's this? The next thing I know, NTFS and Carey will be having a beer together. Burp."  .....Hey, I'm always reading for a cold brew!!! |
