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Yvettep
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Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 02:47 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Interview w/director, Jasmine Guy:

http://www.essence.com/news_entertainment/entertainment/articles/jasmine_guy_dir ects_robin_givens_nicole_ari_parker_and_more
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Ferociouskitty
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Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 08:55 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I saw this as an older teen many moons ago and was moved by it. I wonder how I will view it now...
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Chrishayden
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Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 11:01 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This is an impressive, influential work by homegirl Ntozake Shange

I think these has beens are too old to take the parts.

Why don't they give some younger women a chance?
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Cynique
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Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 02:11 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This is the seminal play that was in the vanguard of the castrating black woman mystique. When it first came out it had black men up in arms because of how it belittled and ridiculed them.

Jasmine Guy just went through a divorce. Wonder how motivating this was in her taking on this project.
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Ferociouskitty
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Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 02:59 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cynique: As a teen, I didn't even get the "castrating black woman" vibe. I got the self-love vibe, which I was so hungry for at that time. Like I said, I wonder if I'll see it differently now...as a divorcee. ;-)

Do you see "for colored girls..." in the same vein as "The Color Purple", as anti-black male?
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Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 11:59 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Interesting point, Cynique and FK!

I cannot remember where I first saw the play. Probably on a college campus. I remember not understanding much of it (I was very young at the time) but being entranced by the raw emotion of it.

Chris, typically on stage folks of all ages play characters of any age. It is not the same as movies where close-ups, etc. make a difference. As much as I love the movie version of The Wiz, for example, seeing Ross play Dorothy still makes me cringe! LOL
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Cynique
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Posted on Thursday, July 23, 2009 - 12:08 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This play was ahead of its time, and its message did have to be extracted from its verbiage. But I do remember there being a backlash to it from black men who felt it put them in a bad light. (I think the author later came out as a lesbian.)

Black men and black women obviously reacted to this play and "The Color Purple" in different ways; but they both considered themselves victims.
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Chrishayden
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Posted on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 11:14 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cynique:

You have never read or seen this play, have you?
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Chrishayden
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Posted on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 11:17 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Chris, typically on stage folks of all ages play characters of any age. It is not the same as movies where close-ups, etc. make a difference. As much as I love the movie version of The Wiz, for example, seeing Ross play Dorothy still makes me cringe! LOL

"These broads can't act their way out of a wet paper bag--never have.

Diana Ross committed criminal sacrilege by pushing to get that role and her movie career went down the tubes, justly so.

Stephanie Mills should have got the role.

How do you think Ashanti will do as Dorothy?

This will be a real laff fest when she starts mangling those lines.
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Cynique
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Posted on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 11:47 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I did see the play. I'm just reluctant to admit that back then I wasn't sophisticated enough to find it anything but boring. What made the most impression on me was the guy seated behind me, who was seething at the white people in the audience, who he felt were snickering at the play's negative implications about black men.
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Cynique
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Posted on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 04:30 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Honing my memories about this dramatic presentation, now that I think about it, there was just one particular "colored" girl who blatantly bad mouthed black men. I believe she was wearing - orange?

You are correct in judging this play to actually be about female self-affirmation, FK.
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Chrishayden
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Posted on Saturday, July 25, 2009 - 11:57 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The play was honest. If we got some issues, and we got plenty of them, not least of which is pathological self hatred that includes everything black around us, they should be out front.

Enough with this fakery. Tell ME what you REALLY feel.

Then I can find out whether I want to get involved based on the real 411.

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