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Chrishayden "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 8005 Registered: 03-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 11:55 am: |
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Is nothing sacred? http://www.idontlikeyouinthatway.com/2009/06/morgan-freeman-had-sex-with-his-gra nddaughter.html |
   
Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey
Post Number: 1950 Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 12:46 pm: |
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That's ugly! |
   
Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique
Post Number: 13797 Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 01:38 pm: |
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Incest seems to be a dirty little secret among the rich and powerful. David Carradine has been accused of having a perverted relationship with one of his female family members. For shame, Weed Hopper. |
   
Schakspir AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Schakspir
Post Number: 1271 Registered: 12-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 01:45 pm: |
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Morgan Freeman's just doing a "Woody Allen". Technically, it's not incest because the woman is only his STEP-grandaughter. |
   
Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey
Post Number: 1951 Registered: 05-2004
Rating:  Votes: 4 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 02:28 pm: |
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Technically, he's a nasty ass weed layer. Technically, he was stroking a child that his wife brought into the home. Technically, he's a pervert. |
   
Schakspir AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Schakspir
Post Number: 1272 Registered: 12-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 05:56 pm: |
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Yeah, like Woody Allen and Soon-Yi. |
   
Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey
Post Number: 1953 Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 06:18 pm: |
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Yeah, like that crusty weasel Woody. To me they are no different than a tree jumper (rapist). I wonder if these guys sit around and sing the song "Baby got back"? |
   
Schakspir AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Schakspir
Post Number: 1273 Registered: 12-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 07:04 pm: |
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I doubt it, because neither Soon-Yi nor Morgan's fair child have nice, shapely bottoms. |
   
Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey
Post Number: 1954 Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 07:40 pm: |
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I doubt it? Well, I wasn't talking about them as adults. I was thinking more on the line of when do these weasels start looking at kids bottoms. I wonder if these jerks have an age limit? Can you believe morgan even used the old "get the girl drunk" trick. What a sap. But maybe the reports are not true. Maybe I shouldn't be blasting on the man? All I know is he looks like a perp. And I now know why I never liked his acting. I wonder what ferosiouskitty thinks of him now :-). |
   
Ferociouskitty Veteran Poster Username: Ferociouskitty
Post Number: 759 Registered: 02-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 08:32 pm: |
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Ugh. |
   
Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 3614 Registered: 10-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2009 - 03:26 am: |
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Oh well, not saying I agree with it, but the head lines are misleading. The only thing the hysterical haters have is the fact that he is much older than she is. If he is boning her -it is consensual between two adults now. |
   
Urban_scribe AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Urban_scribe
Post Number: 730 Registered: 05-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2009 - 03:41 pm: |
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It's interesting to see that Freeman and Allen are being blamed for "taking advantage" of these young women. If these young women were 10 years older at the onset of their relationships with these established, wealthy older men, they would not be seen as victims but as gold diggers. Now the circumstances surrounding their relationships are far less than desirable. Outside of that, I really don't see a problem here. I don't see these young women as victims or gold diggers, and I don't see these older men as opportunists. If you look throughout history, going back to biblical days, older, established men have almost always had considerably younger women as wives and/or mistresses or concubines. That practice has been culturally and socially accepted for millenia. I agree with NTFS: what goes on between consenting adults, despite age difference, is no one's damn business. |
   
Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey
Post Number: 1956 Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2009 - 05:13 pm: |
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Let's put this debate in it's proper place. The FACT of the matter is these perps took advantage of young GIRLS. Who said anything about consenting adults?!? If a frog had wings he wouldn't bump his ass ...WTF. Lets go back in time to formulate an argument around what society did back then. what kind of mess is that. Mr. Charlie always raped his young slave. That was always socially acceptable back then - huh. That argument is about as weak as an asprin in the Mississippi River. Lets see, turn the young girls out at 13 and THEN it's okay when they reach 25. The crime has been commited so it's never okay, regardless of when it's discovered. If time changes a foul act, no pedophil priest would ever be prosecuted. ****The stink eye to anyone that says these men and their behavior is acceptable**** I wouldn't want to look in their closets. |
   
Urban_scribe AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Urban_scribe
Post Number: 732 Registered: 05-2006
Rating:  Votes: 2 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2009 - 06:40 pm: |
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Carey, what do you think of the relationship between Joseph and Mary; y'know Jesus' "parents"? |
   
Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey
Post Number: 1958 Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2009 - 10:39 pm: |
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So, that's the root of your arguement? I know you're not going to drop the deal breaker "God said" Come on Ms. Scribe, I think your last post was your white flag. you know what these men are and what they do is wrong but you're trying to justify it. That's just like the drunk that says they drink because everybody gets on his nerve ...they make him do it. It's called rationalization. Maybe I should ask you straight up. Are you saying that's it's okay (in your mind) for grown men to have sex with underage girls? Also, do you think there's a line that shouldn't be crossed in regards to girls that are raised by men in a father daughter relationship? Are you saying that as long as two individauls are not blood relatives, it's all good? Tag, you're it Ms. Scribe. Not God ....you. |
   
Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 3618 Registered: 10-2005
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 05:52 am: |
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"Let's put this debate in it's proper place. The FACT of the matter is these perps took advantage of young GIRLS. Who said anything about consenting adults?!? " Uhhhhhh...Excuse me, but I believe this young woman is 27 years old. Does she not legally constitute a consenting adult? "If a frog had wings he wouldn't bump his ass ...WTF." Wouldn't know anything about that......... "Lets go back in time to formulate an argument around what society did back then. what kind of mess is that. Mr. Charlie always raped his young slave. That was always socially acceptable back then - huh." First of all, I don't know what the raping of black women by white slave owners (almost 150 years ago) has to do with this discussion. Secondly, I'm hoping you posses the literary skills and intelligence to formulate a reasonable counter argument without resorting to irrelevant race metaphors, race baiting and spurious grandstanding. "That argument is about as weak as an asprin in the Mississippi River." Thank you! Yes it was. I'm glad you have the honesty and integrity to discipline yourself for that irrelevant comment about rape and slave masters. Let's continue..... "Lets see, turn the young girls out at 13 and THEN it's okay when they reach 25. The crime has been commited so it's never okay, regardless of when it's discovered." Is that your assessment? Because I don't recall anyone else taking such a specious position or down playing the obvious. "If time changes a foul act, no pedophil priest would ever be prosecuted." Agreed. But my position is this: This young woman is making a conscious decision to be in Morgan Freeman's presence. She has been seen publicly numerous times as his escort to various affairs. Now, if she was a tragically traumatized child rape victim (as you hysterically insist) -why would she openly and willingly continue to be in his company? It's clear you don't have a clue to what she is thinking or feeling because the woman is free to come and go, accept or reject his requests for her company (and any comments to the contrary by you are nothing more than speculation and conjecture since you do not have access nor are you privy to her personal thoughts). What is that you do not understand? And for the record, I do not approve nor condone sexual abuse of children. Also, anything you heard about their relationship in the years past is hearsay. The proof and deciding factor is if she was a helpless sexually abused rape victim (as your histrionics pleads), why would she voluntarily continue to seek his company? I know of many women (more than I ever imagined) who were subjected to sexual abuse by parents and relatives -not one of them has sought the company of their childhood tormentors as this woman does with Freeman (ref: "E'Dena has also been Morgan's escort to several public events, including last summer's premiere of the blockbuster Bat-flick hit, The Dark Knight"). Bottom line: It's none of the tabloids or your damn business what she does in her personal life nor who she chooses to sleep with (if that is the case). End of subject...... |
   
Chrishayden "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 8006 Registered: 03-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 10:13 am: |
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Technically, he was stroking a child that his wife brought into the home. Technically, he's a pervert. (Aren't you going a little too far? If they have indeed been having sex for ten years, then it started when she was seventeen--she was legal. And she is 27 now. She is not related to him by blood, so he hasn't run afoul of anything there. I think it was rather unwise, seeing as how many women he probably has access to that nobody could say anything about. I don't think I would do it myself, seeing as how I don't think I would have anything to talk about with a 17 or a 27 year old-- Then again THEY (it took two to tango, she knew what she was doing) were not seeking conversation, were they? Finally, I think we should consider that he is an actor. These people are not like you and I--they are usually some sort of sexual deviant or other. Query, what would you think of yourself if you did this? Males and females. Also, and I think this is what he, his managers, agents and Hollyweird employers are worried about--would this make you any less likely to patronize his movies? Will he be reduced to villanous, sleazebag roles? |
   
Troy AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Troy
Post Number: 1840 Registered: 01-2004
Rating:  Votes: 2 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 10:30 am: |
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First of all y'all gotta put this thing in perspective -- what are we actually reacting to? A sensational headline: The Enquirer title reads MORGAN FREEMAN "INCEST" SHOCKER - INSIDER CHARGES. The Enquirer even admits that the source is second hand and that Freeman is not related to the woman (NOT Incest). Aside from Chrishayden, who read this crap anyway?! But lets say the story is completely true as reported: NTFS it is not uncommon for abused people to defend and look for approval from the abuser. It is a self esteem thing that you can't relate to, but it is "text book" and you can read about it. Pimps understand this quite well. Carey I'm actually surprised you are so hard on Freeman, especially given the specious evidence and the fact that the woman is 27 years old. You must realize that there are people who would have very serious concerns about YOUR past experiences (1st hand accounts) with women -- why so hard on Freeman? |
   
Chrishayden "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 8008 Registered: 03-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 11:44 am: |
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The Enquirer even admits that the source is second hand and that Freeman is not related to the woman (NOT Incest). Aside from Chrishayden, who read this crap anyway?! "We all do. At first I dismissed it, but then I wondered why, if it isn't true, SHE hasn't been out all over denying it and threatening to sue (It would do him no good to say anything, since he is a Black Man, the most despised thang on the planet!) |
   
Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique
Post Number: 13798 Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 12:46 pm: |
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The rich and famous are different. They do what they please and live by their own rules. Actually, Morgan Freeman broke no laws unless you consider offending judgmental people a crime. |
   
Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey
Post Number: 1960 Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 12:51 pm: |
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Troy wrote: ...."Carey I'm actually surprised you are so hard on Freeman, especially given the specious evidence and the fact that the woman is 27 years old. You must realize that there are people who would have very serious concerns about YOUR past experiences (1st hand accounts) with women -- why so hard on Freeman?" Okay Troy, you know I'll be glad to answer that question - that scratch line :-). First and foremost, that's a lame attempt to somehow draw a parallel between Morgan Freeman and I, shame on you. Second (but just as important), if I worried about "very serious concerns" by others, I would be just like all the other pretentious cowards that are stuck in fear that someone may not like them for something they've done in the past. Now, I am very much aware of the intent of your question. Well, it's obvious that YOU would like to point a finger at something I've done. It's obvious that YOU consider yourself a "quality" guy. But here's the lick, I am telling my story and therefore I am pointing the finger at me. Unless you've lived in a bubble, I can assume you've committed some sins. So, when there's a part in my story that speaks of me stroking a women that has lived in my house and that may have looked up to me as a father or grandfather, come holler at me. I am hard on Morgan because that sleezebag crossed the line. I am sure there are those that would read all of my stories (all at my blog) and say WOW, this motherfucker has done some shit. You know what, I'd say the same thing. In fact, in my profile I try to direct people to the posts that lay it right out in the open. So, go take a shot at some. There's one titled "What About A Time called NOW". It's another deep story of a young man that committed errors of judgement. There's another called "Daddy's Little Girl", you might enjoy that as well. Many have dropped by and added comments ...I'll await yours. Don't be surprised if they are not filled with the flavor of this board. You can replace Morgan's name with Daffy Duck, the motherfucker still fucked up. If after reading my life's stories, "people have very serious concerns" that's cool but it doesn't chnage the stories. That responsibility is in the heart of the man. I don't know what you were surprised about? Maybe I do. Maybe you don't possess the qualities needed to say you are not perfect. I wonder if that's a quality women should look for in a quality guy - a good guy. Come by and holler. I look forward to the exchange. Show me yours and I'll show you mine. We can make the issue about you, me or Morgan Freeman. I am open for the task. |
   
A_womon AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: A_womon
Post Number: 2579 Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 12:56 pm: |
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Let's see, so if the child is not blood he/she is fair game, even if you raised the child as your blood? So as long as she/he doesn't share your blood when they reach the ambiguous age of consent, it is alright for you to engage in sexual intercourse with a child you have parented? or in this case grand parented? How sick is that? So tnen let's not have any boundaries, right? If it feels good do it? Does this extend to foster/adopted children? How about your neighbor's teenaged daughter/son niece/nephew? How about your sister/brother in-law or your daughter's/son's friends? The list goes on. If you who see nothing wrong or incestuous about this relationship, again I ask you. Where do you draw the line? |
   
Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey
Post Number: 1961 Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 12:57 pm: |
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Troy wrote ...."NTFS it is not uncommon for abused people to defend and look for approval from the abuser. It is a self esteem thing that you can't relate to, but it is "text book" and you can read about it. Pimps understand this quite well" BINGO!!!! Text book! |
   
A_womon AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: A_womon
Post Number: 2580 Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 12:58 pm: |
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I, for one am very disappointed, shocked, and appalled at this story and I pray that there is no truth to it. |
   
A_womon AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: A_womon
Post Number: 2581 Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 01:01 pm: |
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adding to the list: Your stepchild is not really blood, so do you as a parent have sex with them when they are old enough? Is that also okay? |
   
Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique
Post Number: 13800 Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 01:09 pm: |
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Who are you scandalized prudes to tell other people how to conduct their personal lives??? I don't think anybody was twisting the girl's arm. Maybe she had a crush on her stepfather. What do you think a Daddy's girl is? A child who is inordinately attached to her father. A blood father will not usually take advantage of his daughter, but many stepfathers can't resist nubile young creatures. It's the nature of the beast. |
   
Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey
Post Number: 1962 Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 01:14 pm: |
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Thank you, A _womon! where the hell is the boundries? A_womon wrote: .... Does this extend to foster/adopted children? How about your neighbor's teenaged daughter/son niece/nephew? How about your sister/brother in-law or your daughter's/son's friends? The list goes on... That statement just about says it all. I agree. In fact, in many states, when a "parent" has lived with a child for a period of time, if it's later learned by a blood test that the child is not that of the parent that was in the home, that child is still the legal responsibility of that parent. So, should he later drop off a payment and get a little bit on the side? Hey, they aren't realated by blood ...GMAFB! |
   
Hen81 Veteran Poster Username: Hen81
Post Number: 199 Registered: 09-2007
Rating:  Votes: 3 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 01:55 pm: |
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The thing about being a parent/adult is that you should exercise judgement that a child may not have. The adult does the right thing because they are the example/role model. That is called a teaching moment instead of an opportunity to exploit the poor judgement of youth. |
   
Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique
Post Number: 13802 Registered: 01-2004
Rating:  Votes: 3 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 03:40 pm: |
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But just for the sake of argument, who is to say what the "right" thing is? Woody Allen was an adult who decided his step daughter was who he wanted to be with, and her consent led to them being happily married to this day. People who support same sex marriages would probably be among those who have a problem with "aberrations" like this, and this is because people want to pick and choose what they are broadminded about. I say, "live and let live". |
   
Troy AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Troy
Post Number: 1843 Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 04:50 pm: |
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Carey, a few things: Absolutely no one is perfect (not even your friendly AALBC.com webmaster). You will err if you universally apply your sensibilities onto others -- especially people you do not know, people who are from different cultures or folks who lived in different time periods. The line you say Freeman crossed is one you manufactured. Sure the Enquirer fuels your hysteria by throwing around words like incest. I just did not see you as such an easy mark for this tabloid ploy. Generally, overly judgmental people are displaying their own deep seated insecurities. They lash out at others when in reality they want to lash out at themselves. Typically they are too busy looking outward rather than looking at themselves...they are too afraid to actually point that finger of harsh criticism inward. Carey I’m not trying to compare your situation (as described in your co-parenting article) with Morgan Freeman’s. What I’m doing is trying to do is help you understand that someone could reasonably look at your activities with women with the same disgust, if not more, that YOU view Freeman’s. Why do you think the mother of your first child approached you with a gun? I’m not judging you here. I’m just expressing surprise by your reaction to the Freeman “revelation”. Admittedly, the surprise was greater after having just read about your storied past. I just did not understand why you had no problem feeding Freeman to the wolves. I understand now though… |
   
Troy AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Troy
Post Number: 1844 Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 04:55 pm: |
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Cynique, for argument sake, in any given culture don't you think their need to be standards of behavior. Standards that make it clear what type of behavior is tolerated? If you say "live and let live" I assume you don;t mean just let people do anything they want to do... do you? |
   
Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique
Post Number: 13803 Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 05:54 pm: |
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Well, I draw the line at murder and violence, but discretion is the better part of valor and what consenting adults do behind closed doors is none of my business. If people choose to flaunt their aberrant behavior, then they have to suffer the consequences and that's their problem, not mine. There are so many finger-pointing, self-righteous, hypocrites in this world that I don't sweat what non-conformists do in private. Those who protest the most vociferously about taboos are very often the ones who cast ferverent glances at the culprits knowing that "there, but for the grace of God, go I." |
   
Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey
Post Number: 1966 Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 06:48 pm: |
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Troy I understand what you are saying. This part of your post stood out: .... "Generally, overly judgmental people are displaying their own deep seated insecurities. They lash out at others when in reality they want to lash out at themselves. Typically they are too busy looking outward rather than looking at themselves...they are too afraid to actually point that finger of harsh criticism inward" Your a fine in forcing that opinion and to some degree I will agree. However, as you said, it is a generalization. In such, the flip side is some have accepted their misconduct and have grown from their mistakes and are not using "it" to run from their past or to deflect the attention away from them or run from themselves. That's a fact. In my profession I constantly hear "what about you". I simply tell them that they don't know my story and my story has nothing to do with the fate in front of them. The old phrase "three fingers are pointing at you as you point a finger at others" ...is generally used by those that wish to run from an issue. If we are to believe that only the pure can identify a moral problem, then most churches in the world would have to close it's doors. It not a popular or envious position to voice concerns about issues of which a person might have stumbled through themselves. I am sure, as a parent you've had to teach from your experince of making mistakes. I am yet to understand how or why you are still drawing a paralllel to my story and the delimma of Mr. Freeman. You mentioned the lady that came at me with a gun. Okay, what? Some might have thought I used poor judgemnet, and? I thought this was about a man that suppositely raped a relative. Call it what they want, the man crossed a big boundry. Thanks for reading the story. Did you read the ending? If not, here it is. It's a continuation of the one in your post. http://careycarey-carrymehome.blogspot.com/ |
   
Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey
Post Number: 1967 Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 06:52 pm: |
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Good point Cynique. "there, but for the grace of God, go I." Once a corner is turned ....if a corner is turned, a person might look back and then give back. |
   
Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique
Post Number: 13805 Registered: 01-2004
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 03:16 am: |
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I was really just making the same point that Troy did when he so expertly deconstructed the person who overreacts to the "perversion" of another. |
   
Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey
Post Number: 1968 Registered: 05-2004
Rating:  Votes: 2 (Vote!) | Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 03:59 am: |
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Regardless of what you were "TRYING" to say.The message still applies. When people realizes they've been saved from themselves, they thank God. Hence, But for the grace of God go I. Overreacts??? I don't think discussing the woes of a pervert is overreacting. You may call it an expert deconstruction but it nevertheless will remain a generalization. @ Troy ...I had to chew on this a bit "You will err if you universally apply your sensibilities onto others -- especially people you do not know, people who are from different cultures or folks who lived in different time periods" I don't know what you were trying to say but regardless of "who-where-when" human emotions do not change. They are all the same - always. |
   
Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique
Post Number: 13806 Registered: 01-2004
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 11:47 am: |
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Oh, Jeeze. I wasn't trying to say anything, Carey. I succeeded in expressing my opinion. And, we weren't discussing the "woes of a pervert", we were noting how subjective judgmental people can be. The problem in having a discussion with you is that you misintepret what people say in an attempt to advance your argument. And who speaks in generalities any more than you?? Also, how do you figure human emotions don't change? People can be transformed by enlightenment and their emotions will change. Furthermore, over time the attitudes of society can also evolve into a different mind set. Troy made an insightful, intelligent observations, as opposed to you, who copped a plea. |
   
Troy AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Troy
Post Number: 1852 Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 07:42 pm: |
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Carey, this is why we will won't reach common ground on this issue as we have some very fundamental disagreements. You believe: "human emotions do not change. They are all the same - always." I completely disagree with this statement. Cynique, is it not like pulling teeth from a rabid dog? |
   
Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey
Post Number: 1972 Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 02:08 am: |
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Maybe I need to break it down just a wee bit more. Here's the deal. We all experince the same emotions - check? Now, how we deal with those emotions is another thing - check? Therefore, Doctor-lawyer-beggerman-thief- ...we all experience the same emotions - check? So, you said I would err by in universally applying my sensibilities to others? First, a sensibility is not an emotion, and when did I apply "my" sensibilities to others. For some reason you are having a hard time with those that think Mr. Freeman errored in his decision to "entertain" a family friend. For some reason you said others could view my past with similiar distain. I said they would have every right to do so and I would be cool with that. Now, what are you trying to say? Could you please explain yourself. You have continually implied that those that see fault in Mr. Freeman should not do so or should not voice their opinion on the matter. It appears as if you are uncomfortable with those that may have errored in judgement, identifying a wrong committed by another. You have to step up or get off the pot. If you sit there too long it's going to start to itch. NOW ....do you still disagree with the statement??? Do you have a special pill that will allow you to bypass pain. Is there something you can share with us that will enable us to never experience -shame-joy-doubt-remorse etc,? Of course it is possible you simply needed this "human emotions are all the same" But don't let that be the focus of this issue. What were you really trying to say? Take a stand! Should I take you back? You were surprised that I was so hard of Mr. Freeman???? It is possible that you do not view his indescretions as I do. Is that what you are trying to say? Take a stand and say it. Spare me with the lame Mumble Jumble of three fingers pointing back. |
   
Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique
Post Number: 13814 Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 01:53 pm: |
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Carey writes about Troy: "It appears as if you are uncomfortable with those that may have errored in judgement, identifying a wrong committed by another." Hello! This is the whole gist of the matter. It's about people who live in glass houses, not throwing stones. Get it? Yes, an emotion is what it is, but what triggers an emotion differs from person to person. And why is "sensibility" not an emotion? It is a reaction that the mind experiences. You keep implying that people are not making themselves clear. But just because you can't figure out what someone is stating doesn't mean that they haven't succeeded in coherently expressing their point. You are the one who is "trying" but apparently having difficulty in understanding the point. |
   
Chrishayden "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 8009 Registered: 03-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, June 26, 2009 - 10:46 am: |
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There are so many finger-pointing, self-righteous, hypocrites in this world "You rang?" |
   
Troy AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Troy
Post Number: 1854 Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, June 26, 2009 - 11:23 am: |
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Cynique, I see you whipped out a jack hammer to remove that 3rd molar. Your patience is indeed prodigious. |
   
Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique
Post Number: 13820 Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, June 26, 2009 - 12:37 pm: |
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Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey
Post Number: 1976 Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, June 26, 2009 - 02:38 pm: |
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Look it here, I see Heckle and Jeckle are still down here pulling on each others wangs. Well, one wang and one old dangle lang. Don't make me pull out the wrecking ball. you don't want me to pull-up the blinds in a certain "glass house". I'll be back. And Morgan Freeman is still a punk! Somebody don't want me to pull out my Sunday Special Edition?! Don't start crying now. The print is rolling *evil grin*. |
   
Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique
Post Number: 13822 Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, June 26, 2009 - 04:03 pm: |
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Pathetic words from an old vulture whose tail feathers are draggin, weighted down by the burden of your absurdity. And it's not like anybody feels threatened by your desperate warning about one of your peripatic Sunday yawn fests. Puleeze. Your lack of credibility taints every tale you try to spin. So feel free to get your lies in order. You are your own worst enemy.  |
   
Troy AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Troy
Post Number: 1860 Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, June 26, 2009 - 04:05 pm: |
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old vulture whose tail feathers are draggin, weighted down by the burden of your absurdity Daaaaayaaam, LOL! |
   
Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey
Post Number: 1980 Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, June 26, 2009 - 05:23 pm: |
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That's a good line Mrs. Johnny Carson. It has your boy, Black Eddie Mc mann cracking up. |
   
Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique
Post Number: 13826 Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, June 26, 2009 - 08:42 pm: |
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If your wit wasn't non existant, Carey, maybe you would have a "bud" to share your sense of humor with. Where's a_womon when you need her? BTW, can a black man be green with envy? |
   
Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey
Post Number: 1983 Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, June 27, 2009 - 01:55 am: |
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That line wasn't as good as your last one but I get your point. No, I don't have a rat pack like you and old one-eye Sammy Johnson Jr. |