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Kola_boof
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Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 12:12 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


I feel it's terribly wrong for
Continental African people to reject mixed race
children or not go the extra mile
to make those children feel connected
to their lineage as African people.

No child ever asked to be brought into
this world.

A fan of my work who lives in Switzerland
is a Biracial woman named Carole Racky.

Her mother is German and father is
African.

Carole sent me the following email and
has given me permission to reprint our
exchange.

I am posting it to HONOR HER PAIN and
to acknowledge her voice...as the voice
of my sister.




Kola,

I know you are busy and if you think that we've already corresponded enough then I understand if you won't answer.

I have a question I need to ask you that came up today in a discussion with an African friend of mine. A question that so far no African I've ever talked to about it has answered honestly.

Why are so many Africans relatively open when it comes to mixing with other races but at the same time not willing to recognize their mixed-raced children as part of their culture?

The emphasis is on part - we inherit a part of Africa, the other part from somewhere else - but one part is still African, and as you know well you cannot cut a person in two halfes and then separate the parts and hand over one half to the other side and the other half to the African side.

Remember I live in Europe, there is no one-drop-rule here like in North America. The older I become the more I am asking myself why do Africans care to have children outside their race if they are not even willing to recognize that side as a part of their own culture. And I am not speaking of 'nig/gers' or people who need papers or money or whatever else reasons there might be - I am speaking of well-grounded empowered Africans with no complexes who freely chose to have children with other races and then act like that.

That is my question.

And of course there is also the attitude of certain Africans thinking that we are stupid and can't see certain things - which is also something that has caused me many times in my life to feel deeply insulted - next to the fact that my father's culture will not recognize my African side.

Maybe you are a person who can give me an honest answer.

Carole




Hi Carole,

I don't think this is exactly true.

Africans DO recognize their mixed race children as "their own" and they love
them.

But on the other hand, those children (if had w/white or too much light skin blood)
are simply not Black.

That is a biological fact.

When viewing the mixed child, the eyes can see a whole other continent/race
and separate group of people in the face, hair and expressions of that child.
The child is not wholly one thing.

Additionally, that child is not fully descended from the African parent's tribe or
their culture.

For instance---you were raised by a White mother in Europe.

It's therefore impossible for you to be either totally African or totally European.
You are forever a configuration of several different entitiies.

In my mind...it would be a cruel lie to mislead you into thinking that you are
"The Tribe," "The Masai Culture"---and then have you face unspeakable rejection
and hostility at the hands of people who really are.

It is better that you be accepted for who you are, so that you are appreciated
and loved for your own unique specialness.

You don't want to be loved in "Sections" like wedges of an orange. You want
to be loved as a Whole Being. And in order to do that, people must acknowledge
all the Shades of what you are--white and black.

Also, just as Whites preserve their lineage to keep themselves from being
erased and disappearing...so must Blacks (those who value blackness) in order
to find parity and self-preservation.

Being "Mixed" automatically means that you are an "Extraction" of Blackness,
not the thing itself.

A great destruction and deception rots the core of the Black American community
because they are so dishonest about this fact. They can't find UNITY, because
they insist that anybody can be black---yet both sides (the mixed and the real
blacks) consistently act out a different reality, no matter how they are tied together.

My belief is that the institutions of Slavery and Colonialism conditioned and taught
these people to automatically DISRESPECT blackness---so they feel no discomfort
in calling someone like Mariah Carey a "black woman." They don't see the disrespect
and the utter non-truth in such a statement. And in fact, because they do honor
White Supremacy--they don't argue the point that Mariah is 99% White and should
be considered a White woman, irrespective of the insidious and dishonest one drop
rule.

You notice that anything can be "black"---but nobody can be "White" unless they
are viewed as 100% White.

That in itself proves my point.

Carole...I definitely see you as my sister, regardless of how you look.

I can feel your spirit and I can tell that you LOVE our people and that you fully
embrace your African-ness and that you relate quite strongly with Black women
(probably because so many Black women ancestors are dancing and screaming
inside you).

I see you as my sister, and I see you as an African just as I see my hero
Barack Obama as African.

But I cannot lie to you and say that I would view you as simply "black" or simply
an authentic "African" person. The mixture is extraordinarily important.

Denying that mixture is to deny your identity and humanity.

But...

I can definitely identify with your pain of wanting "acceptance" unconditionally
and feeling that being "mixed" prevents you from every truly being accepted.

The fact is...when people have "differences", they don't totally trust each other.

Male vs. Female has been the ultimate difference and battle--even when people
are the same race, color, etc.

Because one has a penis and the other has a vagina...they are drawn together and
fascinated by each other; but they also instinctively do not ever trust each other
completely. They have differences and yet their needs are identical.

That is what Black and Mixed go through as well.

Irrevocably tied and bound; but not exactly the same--always caught in negotiation.

Kola Boof




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Serenasailor
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Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 12:54 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

That interesting!! I am just waiting for Black Americans to start describing Halle's daughter as "Black". I guess if Mariah Carey can be a Black woman than so can she.

So Sad!!
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Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 12:56 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Most people identify Mariah as multiracial.
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Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 12:58 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Although,I am curious to know what Halle will teach her daughter about blackness and what she will identify when she gets older. Halle always complained about being black so much I wonder if this will affect Nahla
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Kola_boof
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Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 01:13 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It amazes me that Halle Berry went
through 3 Black Husbands (two of whom
were Biracial), 20 years all told
with Black Men and managed not to get
pregnant.

But then for a White lover of 1 year
tops--Nahla pops out.

I think that is the answer to your question,
Brownbeauty123, as to what she will pass on
to Nahla.

And I say this as someone who genuinely
loves and supports Halle Berry.

I am a Halle fan.

But everything I have "prophecied" about
the ERASURE of Black Americans and AA culture
seems to consistently play out and unfold
just as I have predicted.

And that is because...this is exactly how they
conquered North Africa, my homeland.

This is how EGYPT, at last, was defeated.

It all began with 12 yr. old Queen Cleopatra
and the "intermarriage law" that Cesar forced
her to enact.

A law that forbid Egyptians to marry Egyptians.
They had to marry a Romans or Sea Tribes--many of whom were derelicts or people with club foots.

The unwanteds of the Whites.

And this is why I am willing to be hated
by so many AAs.

It is because the more you KNOW---the more you OWE.

And I know a lot coming from the place where
this was carried out previously.

Don't ever forget that the American Indians
were also BRED OUT of America.

It took 430 years for the Whites to eradicate
them from the face of North America.

Disease and War...were not the main culprit
in their eradication.

AAs are only 13% of the population and there
are 220 million Whites in the US.

The so called "browning" of America is
B.S. designed to ease AAs into a sense
of false security.

LATINOS, for instance, are 1 chromosome
from being WHITE.

I love Black Americans and I would kill
anyone to see them survive...as themselves.

Out of loyalty to the ancestors of the
Black Americans, my "unpopular comments"
are rooted 100% in love for AAs though
they can't see that I am an African mother
--they don't know what that is.

I love, admire and understand Halle.
She has lived with enormous pain and
rejection as a Biracial human being.

But I wish to God she could have
continued the bloodberry.

KASHA!











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Ntfs_encryption
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Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 01:47 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"I feel it's terribly wrong for Continental African people to reject mixed race children or not go the extra mile to make those children feel connected to their lineage as African people."

Oh well, nothing new here. Just goes to show you that Negroes are not immune to the infectious virus of bigotry and racism. Whining and wailing about others (non-blacks) not liking them or for treating them un-fairly while freely fostering the same bigotry and prejudice on other people who have the same genes. Go figure.....
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Abm
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Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 02:46 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"It amazes me that Halle Berry went
through 3 Black Husbands (two of whom
were Biracial), 20 years all told
with Black Men and managed not to get
pregnant.

But then for a White lover of 1 year
tops--Nahla pops out.

I think that is the answer to your question,
Brownbeauty123, as to what she will pass on
to Nahla.
"


Kola,

You ain't never, lied.

Hell. Know a few MILLIONS Black men who would have gladly been Halle's breed stud, if THAT were all she wanted.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 06:03 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"A great destruction and deception rots the core of the Black American community
because they are so dishonest about this fact. They can't find UNITY, because
they insist that anybody can be black---yet both sides (the mixed and the real
blacks) consistently act out a different reality, no matter how they are tied together.

My belief is that the institutions of Slavery and Colonialism conditioned and taught
these people to automatically DISRESPECT blackness---so they feel no discomfort
in calling someone like Mariah Carey a "black woman." They don't see the disrespect
and the utter non-truth in such a statement. And in fact, because they do honor
White Supremacy--they don't argue the point that Mariah is 99% White and should
be considered a White woman, irrespective of the insidious and dishonest one drop
rule.

You notice that anything can be "black"---but nobody can be "White" unless they
are viewed as 100% White.

That in itself proves my point."

In fact, this kind of rubbish spoken by an alleged African smells of the same colonial/Eurocentric brainwashing it seeks to contain. Why on earth would "real Africans" want to emulate the bullshit of racist Nordics by trying to "keep pure"?

Furthermore, why wouldn't anyone assume that African Americans seeing "high yellows" as Mariah Carey as one of their own would not, in itself, constitute an entirely different kind of unity--not one based on skin color, which is not all that significant, but one on shared experience, nationality, heritage?

Kola wants Africans to turn into a bunch of f.ucking Germans. Maybe she should actually bring her ass over here and see how they live and think, that might discourage her....if she really was black and/or female.
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Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 06:09 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola: But everything I have "prophecied" about
the ERASURE of Black Americans and AA culture
seems to consistently play out and unfold
just as I have predicted.

Schak: Halle Berry does not represent the majority of Black Americans. Even though a lot of us are admittedly quite retarded (you are entitled to your goddamned opions about me), 95% of AA's marry and/or have kids with other AA's. This is a known fact.

Kola: And that is because...this is exactly how they
conquered North Africa, my homeland. This is how EGYPT, at last, was defeated.

Schak: Egypt was a civilization that was over 3,700 years old, and in fact had already been defeated at the hands of the Persians, the Macedonian Greeks, before the Caesars showed up. The Ptolemys were mostly Macedonian with some African(Egyptian/Kemetic) lineage--possibly with interbreeding with the indigenous black Egyptian royalty. But hell, after 3,700 years, Egyptian civilization had lost its edge. All civilzations do.
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Nels
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Posted on Friday, May 01, 2009 - 01:49 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Traditional looking black Americans need to knock the anti-mixed race chip(s) off of their shoulders.

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