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Serenasailor AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Serenasailor
Post Number: 1894 Registered: 01-2006
Rating:  Votes: 3 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 01:19 pm: |
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I’m not saying that it’s right but no one has complained about it before. Check out the reader’s complaint letter to Ciroc plus the Casting Call below: I am a African-American model in the Atlanta, GA area and I received a casting notice in my email for a job opportunity. I was very excited to see that it was for Ciroc Vodka as I am a huge fan of Sean Combs, aka Puff Daddy. Below you will find the casting that I received in my email. As I continued to read the details I became outraged and appalled as I saw that I had been excluded from the job because I am not a “light-skinned” African-American woman. Is this what you tell talent agencies that you are looking for? Is this the type of mentality that you like to promote in your marketing campaigns? It is a shock to me to see that in the same year we received the first African American President Barack Obama whom might I add has a beautiful ”dark-skinned” African-American wife Michelle Obama, there is still racism running rampant among the world. The William Lynch (google him) theory still prevails and the idea of what is beautiful is still a misconceived notion. Beauty comes in all shapes, sizes, and colors. Not just “White, hispanic or light skinned african american” For all the blood, sweat & tears that African-American people have fought to achieve equality and to be accepted in this country, this is a blatant smack in the face and further lets me know that not only is racism still alive and well. It exists within the race of African-Americans. Black against black. This is no better than the times of slavery when those “light” enough to pretend they were white were able to exempt themselves from slavery and lives of hardship. What message does this send? If you are not light, you are not right? If you are black, get back? What does this do for the self esteem for young “dark-skinned” African American girls every where? Tell them that they are ugly because there skin is too dark? Sean Combs and Kim Porter are themselves what is considered “dark-skinned” African-American people. What image does this promote? One of self loathing? I am very disappointed in this company and in Puff Daddy. This is a sham and a disgrace. I will no longer support him, this company or any other of his business endeavors. I will forward this email to every African-American person that I know and convince them of the same. |
   
Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 3586 Registered: 10-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 10, 2009 - 01:08 pm: |
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"This is a sham and a disgrace. I will no longer support him, this company or any other of his business endeavors. I will forward this email to every African-American person that I know and convince them of the same." Otay....And there ya have it.......! |
   
Serenasailor AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Serenasailor
Post Number: 1895 Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 10, 2009 - 04:28 pm: |
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This story is a buzz all over the internet. I don't know why people are surprised this is just another travesty of the "hip-hop" culture. |
   
Chrishayden "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 7885 Registered: 03-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2009 - 10:12 am: |
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As I continued to read the details I became outraged and appalled as I saw that I had been excluded from the job because I am not a “light-skinned” African-American woman (Ummm, I didn't see the original copy--got an URL or a copy of it?) |
   
Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey
Post Number: 1844 Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2009 - 10:12 am: |
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Now don't go left on me but what if the casting call was for the role of a overweight "lightskinned" black women. Holdup ....Now, the women drank this product (weight lost product) and turned into a beatiful thin blue black jewel. Of course I am making a joke but some parts are specific for certain reasons. Since I have not seen the casting call, I can't help but reserve my judgement. It's far reaching I know but am just sayin' ....I didn't go looking for the "buzz". |
   
Chrishayden "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 7886 Registered: 03-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2009 - 11:02 am: |
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Carey is right. Suppose the call had been for "Plus sized models"?"Mature women"? Are you just going to lay down and die and moan because one guy don't want you, or would you rather get there, go through waiting, doing your thing, getting felt up and talked to like a dog, and find out later on they wanted only light skinned girls all along. Love the one you're with! You dn't want nobody who don't want you, noway, do you? |
   
Ferociouskitty Veteran Poster Username: Ferociouskitty
Post Number: 706 Registered: 02-2008
Rating:  Votes: 2 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2009 - 11:44 am: |
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Love the one you're with! You dn't want nobody who don't want you, noway, do you? She wasn't following up on a personals ad; she was looking for a job. That said...none of this surprises me--not where Diddy is concerned, it isn't. Many of his ilk make no apologies for their preferences for light-skinned women. But on the flip side, they are also inclined to refer to these some of these "preferred" women as "mutts", so go figure. I guess the issue, going forward, is whether or not companies like Ciroc give a d*mn about black folks and our colorism issues. I highly doubt it. As long as we keep spending (and we will), they aren't fazed. |
   
Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 3594 Registered: 10-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2009 - 04:36 pm: |
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”I guess the issue, going forward, is whether or not companies like Ciroc give a d*mn about black folks and our colorism issues. “ Why should they? Negroes don't. They continue to whine and wail about it yet they continue to allow it to happen (as a group). So it must not be that important. The only effective antidote to this issue of black racism (also known as colorism by many) is to not allow oneself to succumb to it. But Negroes (as a group) seem quite content to continue bashing one another for something as childish, divisive and petty as skin color. Why would non-blacks care if Negroes have no shame for their appalling ignorance and self hatred? ”I highly doubt it.” So do I.... ”As long as we keep spending (and we will), they aren't fazed.” Ya got that right. There is no reason for them to stop since Negroes are unable (or unwilling) to. |
   
Troy AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Troy
Post Number: 1739 Registered: 01-2004
Rating:  Votes: 5 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2009 - 06:33 pm: |
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Yeah, I can't bring myself to get riled up about this issue. One; for the points Carey and Chris raised and two; who really other than the models who were excluded from the jobs gives a darn. If his majesty Diddy decided he wanted dark skinned models this sister would be too busy twisting her tail in a Ciroc ad to launcha boycott. Do guys actually buy Ciroc, cause some yellow gal is in (or not in) the ad with a shaded Diddy -- puhleese! Seriously, I'm sure someone has determined that the fairer sisters, with straight hair, slender bodies, less pronounced facial features, have the broadest appeal to gents of all races. While he may be attempting to capitalize on this I can't blame Diddy or even hip-hop for this... |
   
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10293 Registered: 04-2004
Rating:  Votes: 2 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, April 12, 2009 - 08:52 pm: |
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I can't believe anyone who's observed hip-hop over the last +15 years are actually surprised to discover that its artists and impresarios like P. Diddy prefer to use Whiter and lighterskinned foks in their media (and to be their babymommas). The racially ambiguous (though often blessed with a very AFRICAN bootay) video girl hottie has become as much the calling card of hip-hop as has broken English and an extensive arrest record. I would, however, be somewhat surprised to observe they blatantly declare and, perhaps even, ADVERTISE their colorist preference. Because that's a kind of trouble they really don't want or need to make for themselves. But, then, discretion often is NOT the forte of hip-hoppers. Btw, does anyone here believe a material percentage of P. Diddy's darkerskinned female fans will stop consuming his music, clothing, etc. because he prefers to lighterskinned women? And, yes, that IS a rhetorical question. |
   
Troy AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Troy
Post Number: 1740 Registered: 01-2004
Rating:  Votes: 5 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, April 12, 2009 - 09:25 pm: |
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A_womon, get off your sanctimonious high horse for a sec and re-read what I wrote. I never, ever, wrote/though/said/believed, in this life time, that fairer skinned women were more attractive than dark skinned women. What I wrote, and still suspect, is that somebody must have determined that fairer skinned black women are more appealing to the average dude (white/black/other). Why else do you think we these types of women more prominently featured in both white and Black publications, movies, etc? Apparently, they are even specifically requested in the calls. Do you seriously believe these magazines, rap video makers, vodka companies are more interested in hurting the "self esteem [of] young “dark-skinned” sisters or appealing to the broadest audience. I'm sure demographics also plays a role, in the universe of models, dark skinned ones are in the minority. As a result, we should expect to see fewer of them hired (all things being equal). So you can get bent out of shape and believe that Sean Combs is "self loathing", because of this ad, if you want. I simply can't -- even as a brown man with two brown daughters. Indeed, I think the self loathing is more evidenced by the model's reaction which kicked off this post. |
   
Troy AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Troy
Post Number: 1741 Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, April 12, 2009 - 09:35 pm: |
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ABM I did not see your post before I made mine. The phase "racially ambiguous" much more accurately describes what I mean than simply light skinned black woman. Because a lighter skinned Black woman is not necessarily "racially ambiguous". |
   
Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique
Post Number: 13625 Registered: 01-2004
Rating:  Votes: 2 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, April 12, 2009 - 11:37 pm: |
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And the beat goes on. The AD world is about, among others things, selling fantasies. If you ain't the type that men fantasize about then, as a model, you are "shyt out of luck". Suzanne Sommers became a millionaire selling Thigh Masters because she conveyed the idea that if you used one you'd have thighs like the ones she already had. Models obviously have to be the personification of the product they are selling. |
   
Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 3595 Registered: 10-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, April 13, 2009 - 02:28 am: |
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”I can't believe anyone who's observed hip-hop over the last +15 years are actually surprised to discover that its artists and impresarios like P. Diddy prefer to use Whiter and lighterskinned foks in their media (and to be their babymommas).” Agreed. Nothing new here. Negroes have historically always done this. And it continues to this very day. The only way this egregious colorist cultural behavior can be addressed is if blacks (as a ”group”) aggressively promote so-called darker complexioned women in their art, music, literature, media images, verbal imagery and treatment of. Not many of you are aware of this, but back in the late 1960’s and very early 70’s, Blue Note records began a very aggressive campaign to put Afro centric themes and so-called darker complexioned women on their album covers. This was of course an innocuous reaction to the wave of black nationalism that had reached a fever pitch among blacks. But it was a very interesting period and totally unprecedented in the American recording industry.
”The racially ambiguous (though often blessed with a very AFRICAN bootay) video girl hottie has become as much the calling card of hip-hop as has broken English and an extensive arrest record.” Ha!!! Ya get no argument from me on this one. On the money. It’s equally disgusting and shocking that a self proclaimed culture (hip hop/rap) prides itself on thuggary, criminality and elevates broken English (also known as Ebonics) as a badge of honor and cause for celebration. ”But, then, discretion often is NOT the forte of hip-hoppers.” Of course not. Why would they? Buffoonery and modern day new age minstrelsy is their marching anthem…… ”Btw, does anyone here believe a material percentage of P. Diddy's darkerskinned female fans will stop consuming his music, clothing, etc. because he prefers to lighterskinned women? And, yes, that IS a rhetorical question.” Of course not! They will continue to mindlessly support (and whine at the same time about) their de facto segregation from hip hop/rap marketing imagery. |
   
Chrishayden "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 7888 Registered: 03-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, April 13, 2009 - 10:11 am: |
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She wasn't following up on a personals ad; she was looking for a job. (And? What's new about that? What if somebody is trying to sell medical insurance for retired persons and only wants middle aged and old models. Give it up. P Diddy ain' gonna hire you and if he does he's gonna humiliate you. So what do you do? Die? When I read posts like this, I feel like going into a Clarence Thomas mode. If you spent as much time trying to get a job rather than and moan about one that you didn't you wouldn't have time to complain. I blame Black women's straightening their hair and dyeing it blonde for this) |
   
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10294 Registered: 04-2004
Rating:  Votes: 2 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, April 13, 2009 - 10:54 am: |
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Troy, I appreciate your point of how " somebody must have determined that fairer skinned black women are more appealing to the average dude." Surely the reasoning behind such has a decidely pro-BUSINESS justification behind their doing such. I often wonder, though, to what degree is there sort of Which came first, the Chicken or the Egg phenomenon happening here: Everyone WANTS to see the racially ambiguous video hottie because THAT that is the image that is repeatedly being foisted upon us YET the reason WHY that is the image that is being foisted upon is because that is what we want to see. *shrugs* I guess my view of this is I am NOT going to expend much energy chastising the marketing (and mating) preferences of Diddy and the rest of his ilk. But I would be cool with others – especially offended darkskinned sistas – protesting and boycotting such purveyors of colorism, provided they do so for reasons BEYOND just their being p*ssed that THEY were denied a gig from the very foks they now self-righteously criticize. I recently saw an Eric (the former 'Mr. Halle Berry') Benet video that included a beautiful dark chocolate skinned sista. I really enjoyed and have repeatedly watched that video not because I am much of a fan of Benet but because I enjoy seeing a woman of her COLOR - and, of course, BEAUTY - being so luxuriously featured on film. And, to his credit, Benet even had the cajones to title the song "Chocolate Legs" (Much *DAPZ* to Benet for THAT!) Enjoy the video, brothas (and, well, you too sistas...Hahahahahaha!!!). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO_PqCRMFwo&feature=PlayList&p=A9D9E9BAB9F01694&i ndex=138 |
   
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10297 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, April 13, 2009 - 11:35 am: |
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Ntfs, Ntfs: "Not many of you are aware of this, but back in the late 1960’s and very early 70’s, Blue Note records began a very aggressive campaign to put Afro centric themes and so-called darker complexioned women on their album covers. This was of course an innocuous reaction to the wave of black nationalism that had reached a fever pitch among blacks. But it was a very interesting period and totally unprecedented in the American recording industry." ABM: I remember enjoying those album covers. And I wish there were more of them today. But as Troy described, Diddy & Co. are NOT just selling to Black foks, they're trying to reach the widest, broadest markets available. And most studies declare at least 75% of the consumers of hip-hop are non-Black. What I often find interesting about the 'color' of hip-hop, though, is there are far fewer lighskinned AA and racially ambiguous MALES featured in the music and culture than their are lighskinned AA and racially ambiguous females. In fact, references to high yella brothas like El Debarge, Al B. Sure, Christopher William who reigned in the music business a generation ago are fodder for a sort of reverse-colorist scorn amongst hip-hoppers LARGELY because lighterskinned AA are viewed by many to lack the appearance of being sufficiently tuff, 'real' and/or 'skreet' that is necessary for hip-hop credibility. Wonder where are the protests from lightskinded brothas for their being unfairly shunned from consideration for hip-hop superstardom. |
   
Chrishayden "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 7891 Registered: 03-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, April 13, 2009 - 11:56 am: |
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I might be disturbed if P.Diddy was a high yella or dirty red-- But he is a brown skinned brother himself!!! What is it operating in the brains of (some) darker skinned black people that seek out this standard of "beauty"? |
   
Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey
Post Number: 1850 Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, April 13, 2009 - 12:09 pm: |
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Abm wrote: "What I often find interesting about the 'color' of hip-hop, though, is there are far fewer lighskinned AA and racially ambiguous MALES featured in the music and culture than their are lighskinned AA and racially ambiguous females. In fact, references to high yella brothas like El Debarge, Al B. Sure, Christopher William who reigned in the music business a generation ago are fodder for a sort of reverse-colorist scorn amongst hip-hoppers LARGELY because lighterskinned AA are viewed by many to lack the appearance of being sufficiently tuff, 'real' and/or 'skreet' that is necessary for hip-hop credibility" That was an excellent point. To be honest, "I" have never really paid any attention to the disparity of "light" over "dark". Is this a fact. Are there more lightskinned women shaking it off the floor than dark women. Off the top of my head and in my mind, I can't think of one video in which a bunch of "light" women are doing the nasty stanky leg. It could be just me. But ...I wasn't looking for it. That's it, I don't look for that "problem" so I am not aware of it. |
   
Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey
Post Number: 1851 Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, April 13, 2009 - 12:12 pm: |
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Maybe I've stepped into something. Are lightskinned women used more in "positive" roles. I am just asking because I don't know. |
   
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10298 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, April 13, 2009 - 12:32 pm: |
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Chris, Chris: "What is it operating in the brains of (some) darker skinned black people that seek out this standard of 'beauty'?" For some, they are colorstruck. We ALL know the saying: "Light is right. Brown stick around. Black get BACK." For others it's about money, they can use the redbone to sell more of their crap. I suspect, though, in MOST cases there are degrees of BOTH happening. |
   
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10299 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, April 13, 2009 - 12:44 pm: |
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Carey: "Are there more lightskinned women shaking it off the floor than dark women. Off the top of my head and in my mind, I can't think of one video in which a bunch of "light" women are doing the nasty stanky leg. It could be just me. But ...I wasn't looking for it. That's it, I don't look for that "problem" so I am not aware of it." You must not watch many music videos made in the last decade and a half, bruh. There's PLENTY of high yella hoochying gone on in hip-hop media these days. Here's a (luscious) example:
Btw: I am CTFU at your "the nasty stanky leg". Umah have to ask my wife to do some of that for me next weekend. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! |
   
Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey
Post Number: 1853 Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, April 13, 2009 - 12:57 pm: |
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GAWD DAMN!!!!! I love the color of her fingernails *snicker* I guess I haven't watch much video. I better not start either. I have an addictive personality and that there booty could make a brotha call home. Harlem Nights: "hello son, tell your mother I am not coming home" Stop it ABM. You gonna get a brotha in trouble. Yeah, it's all your fault *lol*. I am trying to write something and that booty keeps calling me. I don't know why but it does. Is that just like a drug? Well, I see the crack, I shouldn't play with someone elses crack, and it is a drug ...right - crack? See, let me stop. You got me acting like a fool up in here. Yeah, it's all your fault. |
   
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10300 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, April 13, 2009 - 01:07 pm: |
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Carey, Good LAWD! Ain’t she something? A$s looks so sweet, make an ol' fart like me wanna start a gangsta rap career. But don’t hurt yourself there, bruh. That nitroglycerin medication can only do but so much for your heart. Harlem Nights: ""hello son, tell your mother I am not coming home"" ABM’s revision: "hello son, tell your mother I am coming. But I won’t be doing it at home." HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! |
   
Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique
Post Number: 13628 Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, April 13, 2009 - 02:50 pm: |
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The model who was rejected by P-Diddy should go audition for a Tyler Perry movie. These 2 millionaire entrepreneurs are oppposite sides of the same black coin. Perry is heads and Diddy is tails... If black women want better representation, they'll just have to rely on Michelle Obama and hope that her perm holds up, that her hips don't get any wider, that her garden blooms and that her dog doesn't take a bite out of her obnoxious little darlings.  |
   
Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 3598 Registered: 10-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 02:58 am: |
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"If black women want better representation, they'll just have to rely on Michelle Obama and hope that her perm holds up, that her hips don't get any wider, that her garden blooms and that her dog doesn't take a bite out of her obnoxious little darlings."
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Troy AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Troy
Post Number: 1745 Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 10:05 am: |
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NTFS - Ditto your reaction to Cynique's post. I wonder what would be the country's reaction if Michelle O. started sporting a natural hairstyle. I would be VERY impressed by that! ABM What I often find interesting about the 'color' of hip-hop, though, is there are far fewer lighskinned AA and racially ambiguous MALES... Now that is an interesting point. I remember quite clearly when the light skinned, wavy hair look was in. I also recall the animosity expressed to those brothers in reaction to the perceived preference. So I understand the reaction that darked skinned sisters may have, as unfortunate it may be. I believe that the preference for the darker skinned brothers in hip-hop has to do with the prejudice that Carey implied; dark skinned brothers are "harder". I do not think it is a coincidence that popularity of the bald headed, darked skinned, tatooed, sagging jeans, Timberland wearing, blinged out, muscular, hooded, menacing scowl, concealed weapon look paralleled the rise of hip hop. By today's standards El Debarge looks like a flaming homo compared to a 50 Cent. The pendulum has swung too far hopefully it will swing back when women determine that they really do prefer gentleman to a thug (or do they?) and that skin color is not a predictor of either. |
   
Troy AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Troy
Post Number: 1746 Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 10:33 am: |
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Oh I forgot: It was brought to my attention that my reaction to Awomon in this post (http://www.thumperscorner.com/cgi/discus/show.cgi?tpc=179&post=127202#POST127202) was perhaps too harsh and open to misinterpretation has having something against awomon personally. I accept that and apologize. I have nothing against awomon, have meet her in the real world and think she is a fine person. I always caution people to never take anything personally that is written here. But in the reality different situations, personalities and subject matter, can sometimes make this difficult to do. Given the abuse that has been leveled against me, on occasion, trust that I understand this more than anyone. Despite that I continue to give folks a tremendous amount of latitude to express themselves. I believe this freedom is more important than the risk of potentially hurt feelings. My personal threshold when choosing to engage someone on these boards is when I know they are deliberately lying. There is a huge difference between taking a position you do not personally hold for the sake of argument versus making libelous or known false statements. The former I can tolerate, the latter I choose not to engage. I've only deleted 3 types of posts on these boards: 1 - Pornographic images 2 - A direct request by someone who says a libelous statement has been made 3 - A direct request from someone who wrote something they want to take back (or posted in error) and can not figure out how to delete it. That is pretty much it. |
   
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10303 Registered: 04-2004
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 12:53 pm: |
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Troy, I certainly would declare that all or even most darkerskinned brothas are tuffer than their lighterskinned brethren. But I wonder if an argument can be made that darkerskinned Black men may become harder because they are more likely to experience a harder life. (I think there was a recent study performed that a ligherskinned brotha might get a gig over a BETTER qualifed darkerskinned brotha.) However, it didn't take the ascent of Fitty Cent to make me think that El DeBarge had a little sugah in his gas tank. Regarding what you said to Ntfs about the First Lady Obama donning a natural hairstyle: My bet is if her husband is re-elected, sometime early into his second term First Lady O will sport an Afro and/or some locs. Can't see her going the cornrolls route, though. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! |
   
Serenasailor AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Serenasailor
Post Number: 1896 Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 01:44 pm: |
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Some of the comments on here are quite amazing. First of all, I wouldn't consider a Black woman writing a letter of disgust a form of self hatred. As for the model she just wanted a job. Like most models do. She just like the rest of us were "dumbfounded" at the level of colorism by this Black men who is in a position of power. She if she saw Diddy in a club and he told her he didn't date darkskinned women. That would be different. However, he is screwing with her livelihood. I wonder if this was Calvin Klein and he said "No Black male models allowed" would a Black man be accused of self-hating for writing a letter of protest. Again typical Black American male response. We can de-numanize, disallow and disrespect Black women and expect them not to say anything about it. However, it can't be done to us. And Troy that only makes me wonder what you are telling your "supposed" dark-skinned daughters. Sorry honey but the world agrees that you are just not as cute as your lightskinned counterparts. Also the request for White, Latina, and Lightskinned Black models sounds a little to suspiciously specific for a White owned company like Ciroc to put out. What about Asian, Indian and Somoan women? That to me sounds like a particular preference for those type of women. One that a colorstruck Black man like P.Loser would put out. I don't think that the "world" collectively agreed upon this. What I think is that White men concluded that White and Lightskinned women were the standard for everybody (including Black men). And Black men who were in positions of power and priviledge like P. Dickwad who wanted to be just like the White men he so idolizes concluded the same thing. Just look at how P.Dummy turns himself into a literal clown/monkey to ingratiate himself into the White A-list crowd. Like Gwnyth Paltrow is used to hanging around Black dudes from Harlem and there stupid, blonde weave blue contact wearing clownish azz mothers. |
   
Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey
Post Number: 1857 Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 01:47 pm: |
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My money is on cornrolls. I love to see sistas in nicely braided cornrolls. Not 4 fat ones ...you know what I am talking about. I wonder if she ever thinks about other men *sigh*. Hey, a brotha can dream can't he. Let me get back to that picture ABM posted yesterday. Now that truely is a dream. I wouldn't even know what to do with that ...well, I can just imagine *lol*. See ABM, you got me talking all crazy ....stop it. |
   
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10306 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 02:02 pm: |
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Carey: "Let me get back to that picture ABM posted yesterday. Now that truely is a dream. I wouldn't even know what to do with that..." I think you know what you'd like to TRY to do to that. The question is would you require CPR somewhere halfway through it? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! |
   
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10307 Registered: 04-2004
Rating:  Votes: 2 (Vote!) | Posted on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 02:10 pm: |
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Correction: I meant to say to Troy "I certainly would NOT declare that all or even most darkerskinned brothas are tuffer than their lighterskinned brethren." |
   
Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey
Post Number: 1859 Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 04:03 pm: |
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Yep, ABM, CPR and a new life because ol'girl would kill me if she even knew I was dreaming about taking my old ass anywhere near something like that *lol*. Now stop it ...you are gonna get me in trouble. Pssst ...got anymore pictures?! Hahahaha, am just kidding. Now Troy done told us he don't play that mess. I though we were talking about darkskinned brothas and women looking for detachment from the world. Opps ...am sorry, I mean independence. Stop it, am trying to do some work over here. Where is DT Pollard? You know he don't like any chatin'. I know what he would say ...DT POLLARD.com |
   
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10308 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 04:40 pm: |
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Carey, Here's a little more high yella loving for your viewing pleasure:
Rita G. |
   
Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey
Post Number: 1860 Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 05:12 pm: |
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BAM BAM DOUBLE GAWD DAMN! I love her shoes. But man, you have to stop putting my name on those post HAHaHaHa. It's not like Chris Hayden ain't looking. See, everytime I see a sista like that I want to go slap OJ. Listen ABM, people are going to get the wrong impression of us if we continue along this path. Well, I am just looking for what's popular on the book front and this pops open. They say you can't jugde a book by it's cover but LORD HAVE MERCY! I wonder if that comes in a scratch and sniff version *lol*. I can't believe I let you lead me down this path. Stop it, Troy don't play that mess. This is not even fair ....pssst, any dark chocolate thunder? Stop it. |
   
Troy AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Troy
Post Number: 1748 Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 05:28 pm: |
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Serenasailor, the type of logic you displayed while assessing my statements is somewhat frustrating. Not because we disagree, but the rational you provided has little to do with what I actually wrote or said. This happens a lot in verbal communication, when you are dealing with body language and the fleeting nature of the spoken word. But with the communication is written down and can be reviewed. It is frustrating to have your words turned inside out and lumped in with "the typical male response". Perhaps it is my fault not being perfectly clear, perhaps it is the baggage you bring to the conversation .... or both. The extent of my discussion rests on my suspicion that someone may have determined that racial ambiguous women appear to appeal to the largest number of men. This is based upon of the type of women I see in the media. In any case, men expressing a preference for a particular look, in any given circumstance, should not be viewed as an indictment against all the women who do not share that look. I'd tell my daughters first; a "P. Diddy" does not define your beauty. More importantly real beauty comes from within outward -- not the other way around. That complaining model should probably find another line of work -- does not sound like she is cut to be in a profession where you are judged primarily on your physical characteristics... There are some things we do know to be true regarding physical characteristics. For example, there have been studies which show that women prefer taller men. This is a fact; to act or believe otherwise is simply delusional. Does that mean shorter men, of which I'm one, can not acquire female companionship. Does that mean all tall dudes make the best mates -- of course not! But it does mean short guys chances are extremely limited in the NBA and perhaps non-existent as a runway model. Taller people are preferred in these roles. Midgets need not apply. Why can't Diddy simply want light skinned models, for this particular job? Diddy is not "responsible" for the any given model's livelihood he is responsible for his livelihood. Making the leap that Diddy's action is proof of "...racism running rampant among the world." is preposterous. |
   
Serenasailor AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Serenasailor
Post Number: 1897 Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 07:08 pm: |
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Incidentally Troy!! Didn't you say that your daughters could pass for Arab? Now they are brownskinned? Hmmmmm!! |
   
Troy AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Troy
Post Number: 1751 Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 08:41 pm: |
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Serenasailor, there you go again. I never wrote or even implied that my "daughters could pass for Arab". OK I'll bite (this time only): Are you deliberately making things up to make a point or could you have, with good intentions, read a post which you incorrectly attributed to me? |
   
Nels AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Nels
Post Number: 1250 Registered: 07-2005
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 02:23 am: |
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Abm -- "Troy, I certainly would declare that all or even most darkerskinned brothas are tuffer than their lighterskinned brethren." Don't believe it. What brand of weed are you smokin' these days? Dark-skinned brothers are nothin' but insecure punks who resort to knocking up high-yellow honeys in order to spread their seed. What kills me is that people routinely take us yellow folks for granted, only to cry uncle when they get their black a$$es kicked by who they thought were merely meek and naive excuses for male humanity. The doo-doo browns just "kill me". ;-) |
   
Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey
Post Number: 1863 Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 08:31 am: |
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*** was that Prince that just ran through here *** ;-) |
   
Jackie Veteran Poster Username: Jackie
Post Number: 666 Registered: 04-2005
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 10:46 am: |
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Nels-obvisously you don't read all the posts..but wait for an opportunity to post some stupid colorist ignorant ish. (As usual) (ABM) Correction: I meant to say to Troy "I certainly would NOT declare that all or even most darkerskinned brothas are tuffer than their lighterskinned brethren." |
   
Serenasailor AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Serenasailor
Post Number: 1898 Registered: 01-2006
Rating:  Votes: 2 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 10:53 am: |
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Can we all conclude? That Troy is an idiot!! |
   
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10309 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 10:53 am: |
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Troy, YOU at least as much as any of the rest of us here know the dilemma every businessperson - especially those who are or aspire to be SUCCESSFUL - the mission of generating revenue and profits versus that of being civically responsible. Really, to what degree must a BLACK businessman should consider how his choosing to market imagery that will err towards promoting or perpetuating some colorist ends and effects? I am unsure of the answer to that question. I guess, though, where I would draw the line would be whether what Diddy does appear to actively and willfully degrade and prevent darkerskinned models from plying their trade. Because I should think that given where he has come from and his influence over the minds and hearts of younger Black (and non-Black) foks, he should at least be careful to NOT do what would, ironically, appear quite similar to what White foks would have done to HIM and the rest of the kneegrows of his ilk just a generation or so ago. |
   
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10310 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 10:56 am: |
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Jackie, I had assumed that Nel had ignored my correction so that he could use my initial error to fluck with me and as an excuse to make fun of darkerskinned foks. The latter of which, Nel has often appear inclined to do. |
   
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10311 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 11:23 am: |
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Carey, Say HELLO to the Showstopper...Bria Miles!
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Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey
Post Number: 1867 Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 11:43 am: |
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See, ABM, you were doing real good. You talked all civil to Nels and came through in your usual wordsmith glory. I thought you had forgot about my weak moment of asking for a dark moon of robust flavor. My temptations are invading me. I didn't want to see a hint of hair-line peeking out from the thunderous roar, calling my name. I am trying to resist drolling over my keyboard. My mind wanders to the time I might have smacked that ass while saying vulger and nasty words. I am trying hard not to be a sugardaddy looking for filty women that don't mind shaking their stanky leg. How can I go on if you keep attaching my name to these chocolate rain drops? My arms are getting tired. I can't continue picking up my monitor to bump her booty off the floor. I don't have anymore dollar bills. My lady is starting to get suspicious. Stop it ABM ...stop this madness. Besides, you know Troy don't play that mess *lol* |
   
Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey
Post Number: 1868 Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 12:15 pm: |
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Speaking of booty. There's a happy ending to a booty story. Well I don't know if everyone would be happy but it looks like things are moving. Excuse the rest of the mess, check out one of the last comments. I thought I was the only one. http://careycarey-carrymehome.blogspot.com/2009/04/booty-happy-meals.html |
   
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10313 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 01:35 pm: |
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Carey, I'm sorry, bruh. But that Bria Miles calls ALL the DAWG out of me. *HOWLING* I look at her and can't help but wonder if she TASTES as chocolatey as she LOOKS. Carey: "I thought you had forgot about my weak moment of asking for a dark moon of robust flavor. My temptations are invading me. I didn't want to see a hint of hair-line peeking out from the thunderous roar, calling my name. I am trying to resist drolling over my keyboard. My mind wanders to the time I might have smacked that ass while saying vulger and nasty words. I am trying hard not to be a sugardaddy looking for filty women that don't mind shaking their stanky leg. How can I go on if you keep attaching my name to these chocolate rain drops? My arms are getting tired. I can't continue picking up my monitor to bump her booty off the floor." Okay. Well, uh, you know what? After all THAT, maybe I’d better stop. HAHAHAHAHA!!!! |
   
Nafisa_goma Veteran Poster Username: Nafisa_goma
Post Number: 360 Registered: 01-2006
Rating:  Votes: 8 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 02:06 pm: |
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Kola Boof wrote this and asked me to post it on the board for her. So going by Troy Johnson's idea that this is just "business", I think we can all see how and why Darker-skinned Blacks are ECONOMICALLY kept on the bottom of society so that Whites and "Lighter skinned non-whites" can benefit from and affirm and continue a Eurocentric culture. Those dark skinned black models won't be able to afford to FEED their dark skinned black sons (and through Puffy's actions will learn that their mothers, no matter how beautiful and alluring, are inferior). Troy wrote with his own fingers that it's a "business right of passage" for businessmen to illegally exclude dark skinned black women from AUDITIONING for marketing campaigns based on the basis that men of other races don't find them attractive. Wow. Let's just throw Martin Luther King right under the bus then. (AND PLEASE NOTE---though Troy can't stand me and I have reason to despise him, I don't honestly believe that TROY believes in or practices what he wrote, but I do believe that Troy and a lot of black people are so conditioned to the accept the Status Quo that they don't THINK about what they're agreeing with, defending and saying half the time.) Troy claims that men of other races don't want to see half-naked dark skinned black women. I would argue that Naomi Campbell is the world's top model and has held down that spot for twenty years. Before her--Iman held it down. Naomi is engaged to a Russian Billionaire and her entire career has been hyped and supported almost exclusively by WHITE MALES, not black men. It is also a STATISTICAL FACT that the majority of that small number of WHITE MEN who marry Black Women....are married to Dark Skinned Black women. Ditto White women married to Black males. That statistic has actually been recorded--whether it's in Belgium, Sweden, Germany or the United States of America---68% of White men who marry Black females pick a woman with brown skin and Africoid hair and 94% of WHITE FEMALES who married Black Men married dark skinned Black men. Writing about the COTTON CLUB and its "High Yellers Only" Policy in the 1930's---Sam Hilton and Aaron Vittale, two WHITE MEN, wrote that they never could understand why BLACK MEN running the Cotton Club wouldn't put any sexy "black" women on the stage. QUOTE Aaron Vittale: "Negro men lusted awfully for light flesh. They fancied themselves out to prove their race could produce beautiful women and they offered up the fanciest octoroons this side of the atlantic. But when we Italian gents and Irish gents had sleepovers in Harlem, it was brown sugar we sought out. Something about the dark skin makes the blood boil and in them dark girls eyes is something them octoroons didn't have. Call it wicked, illicit and so real it was scary. But I often liked the ones the negro men didn't want themselves. WHITE AMERICAN MEN'S ILLEGAL PORN MAGAZINES FROM 1931-1937 show images of "dark Jezebels" with cocoa skin, full lips and huge curvy tits and ass right along with Mulatto girls. Josephine Baker (the #1 female star in FRANCE, 1935-136), despite being depicted on Post Cards and Black Art as "light skinned" was a DEEP BROWN SKINNED WOMAN...the same exact color as HATTIE McDANIEL. THE SHOCK OF THAT FACT...often causes African-Americans to stare in disbelief when they actually see Josephine's movies "Princess Tam-Tam" and "JouJou." They didn't realize she was so DARK. For Black men, however,---everything representing Black Female Beauty had to be LENA HORNE or FREDDI WASHINGTON (who could pass for White). So TROY....it's not White men who are opposed to seeing gorgeous chocolate half-naked women posing in ads and videos and commercials. When I worked at "Days of Our Lives" ---both of the Black Female Leading Ladies on the show were "Dark skinned beauties" (Renee Jones and Tonya Boyd) and strangely enough, Renee's character, LEXIE (who is clearly not mixed) was and is playing a Bi-racial woman. When I asked the Producers why a dark skinned BW was playing a biracial woman, they remarked that during AUDITIONS (which were 22 years ago)---Renee Jones was simply the sexiest, prettiest girl auditioning for the part and they had to have her because of her "depth" as an actress. These are WHITE MEN, who hired me, the scariest Black Bit/ch in literature---to come put some flavor in their show. I seriously doubt that Black men casting a music video or film role would have been so fair as to choose the "BEST" actress/looker irrespective of skin tone. ANGELA BASSETT HERSELF stated on "The Charlie Rose Show" that black male directors would never cast her as a "romantic lead/beauty/love interest" in a film...UNTIL AFTER WHITE MALE DIRECTORS did it with "Goonies 4" and "What's Love Got to Do With It". After that--HER AGENT convinced Eddie Murphy that she could be "Believable" as the Sexy-Hot Leading Lady in "VAMPIRE IN BROOKLYN" and Spike Lee/Denzel demanded her for "MALCOLM X." Ask any "darkskinned model" (Naomi, Iman) or dark skinned actress (Pam Grier, Angela Bassett, Cicely Tyson)...how they got their BIG BREAK...and you'll see that it was a nerdy ass WHITE MAN who was "too stupid" to see that they were "DARK" who got them through them inside the door. DIANA ROSS (given to us by Berry Gordy)...and LAURYN HILL (given her major push by Wyclef Jean) are the only two instances where I can think of a BLACK MALE pushing a dark skinned black female as his MUSE and dreamgirl. What I believe: Sean Puffy Combs is a KNOWN colorstruck fabulist already. His videos, perfume ads, tv shows, everything he's created---is PERMEATED by blatant colorism. Though he had babies with childhood sweetheart from the hood...dark-skinned Kim Porter ...he never legitimized his sons by marrying her. He abandoned her (and her sons) for JENNIFER LOPEZ and offered to MARRY Lopez. Went back to Kim Porter and the kids...but then managed to be PHOTOGRAPHED numerous times with his WHITE BLOND mistresses, 1,2,3,4....the kind of women who dominated his Perfume/vodka ads. And NOW...he's with CASSIE. Yet another non-black girl. PUFFY'S MOTHER, a dark chocolate skinned woman, has donned flowing BLOND WEAVES and fake blue eyes since he was a little boy. Like most colorstruck BM, he comes from an environment DOMINATED BY self-loathing darkskinned black women who "accidentally" passed on conflicting messages to Puffy about dark skin and hair. And don't forget.... Those self-hating black mothers became DOMINATING because abandonment forces them to take on the role of both father/mother whether they want to or not. BLack men and Black media have traditionally joined with White Media in telling those women that they're inferior; not light enough; don't have nice hair; don't have nice features---that they DESERVE to be abandoned, left with babies and not celebrated--because they look like their men. With a Hot-comb in their hands, those women (PUFFY'S MAMA) pass the same message to their children. It's a CYCLE of "brain syphilis." Almost every black in this country has some form or strain of it. The dominant white culture backs up those conflicting messages by promoting Eurocentric beauty as "normal"....light/mixed/asian/latino beauty as "exotic"...and black beauty as "non-existent" or "rare." So Troy, In light of all that, I don't see how you can claim that it's merely "BUSINESS." B.S.! If we look at the cover of "BLACK MEN MAGAZINE" we will see that only once a year does a woman with "identifiably brown skin" grace the cover. The images that Puff Diddy and many other Black men are creating for BET, ad campaigns, black magazines, countless films...literally obliterate the acceptance of "black love" and destroy any idea of "Pro-creation" as "Normal" between two black people. The fallout...is not here yet. In 10 years from now, you will be seeing what I'm telling you. These images also destroy the self-esteem of young black girls. But of course, the Black Community (going all the way back to AFRICA) has always held the position that "black girls" are SACRIFICAL. The esteem, psychoses and systematic destruction of Black BOYS is what takes priority...but it, as well, never gets more than a "discussion." And after the DISCUSSION on how to save Black Boys is over....our people's "Revolution", which centers around advancing the privilages of the Black Man's dick resumes. We all go back to chanting, "...the black man, the black man, the black man....oh, the WHITE DEVIL's done him so wrong." And anyone who criticizes "THE BLACK MAN" is automatically branded a "HATER OF BLACK MEN." But to me...the Black Man hates his damned self. I look at Sean Puffy Combs, SEAL, Bryant Gumble, Tiger Woods, Taye Diggs, O.J., John Edgar Wideman... AND I SEE A MASCOT. You know...a Black holding a White baby. A MASCOT. AND YES---when I see a Black woman holding a White baby, I see a MAID. It's not necessarily true. In fact, I don't believe I'm right. These people are NOT "mascots" and "maids." But the OVER-INCIDENCE of these images and couples in our race...proves that it's not about love. If it was LOVE...there would be a normal percentage of it and the playing field would be even (meaning Shery Lee Ralph would have just as much chance wooing O.J. as Mama Cass). But the playing field is NOT LEVEL and it's not about love. It's an epidemic of self-hate. And White People (and "almost white" people) BENEFIT from that self-hate. And they use it to destroy our communities and to separate and confuse our identities, thereby destroying our CHANCE at having families and healthy support systems. They used to COLONIZE OUR LAND. Today they COLONIZE our blood. 500 years later (for you) and 1,000 years later (for me)......nothing's changed. So I not only disagree with Troy Johnson's position. But as a Black man with a black wife and black daughters...I just find it SAD that he doesn't think deeper on this. Because Puff Diddy isn't just hurting Dark skinned models looking for jobs to FEED their dark skinned black sons. He's also sending the age-old message that "Blackness" is inferior. And Troy---people can say anything they want about me. But I've never SOLD MY SOUL. Never. And I can't support PUFF DIDDY in selling his. . |
   
Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey
Post Number: 1869 Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 02:09 pm: |
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Okay Howling Wolf settle down :-), I need you. Yeah, you're probably right, maybe you should stop. But addiction is a funny thang. It's hard to say goodbye. Could you do an old man one more favor ...huh? Could you just see me on my way with just one mo'. I mean, one ain't never hurt nobody ...right? See, I am just trying to be fair about this because as you know, Troy don't play that mess *lol* |
   
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10314 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 02:47 pm: |
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Carey, Okay, bruh. Here is one mo'...for the Road.
Coco (a.k.a 'Mrs. Ice T')! *snicker* |
   
Nels AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Nels
Post Number: 1251 Registered: 07-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 04:46 pm: |
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Jackie -- "Nels-obvisously you don't read all the posts..but wait for an opportunity to post some stupid colorist ignorant ish. (As usual)" I'm just pullin' ABM's chain. Ain't it amazing how a little retort can degenerate into a full blown literary fiasco. |
   
Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey
Post Number: 1870 Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 04:46 pm: |
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GOOD GOOGLE MOOGLE! LAWD HAVE MERCY ON MY OL'SOUL. I love her shoes. I wonder what she's been reading lately. See, I like smart women, really. utt oh, here comes Troy and you know he don't play that mess. Come on. let's hide behind all that A$$. |
   
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10316 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 05:20 pm: |
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Carey, Okay. Let's get Nels to hide with us. We know how much HE likes them light, bright and totally WHITE. And I ain't saying I wish I were a pimp like Ice T. But if I were able to move THAT kind of merchandise, I might have to considering getting into the game. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! |
   
Serenasailor AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Serenasailor
Post Number: 1899 Registered: 01-2006
Rating:  Votes: 4 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 05:22 pm: |
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Kola is a bad Mofo!!! Ha Ha!! |
   
Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey
Post Number: 1871 Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 06:03 pm: |
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ABM I can't mess with Nels. I don't know the man. I mean, he must have been doing his thing when I was "absent". So I can't really jack with him. He's ran by a couple of times but he really hasn't done anything with me yet. I've noticed that there are a few postees that have thousands of post and I don't know them. Like Serenasailor, I don't really know much about him. Some people post on a varity of topics. Nels has thousands as well but I can't remember one in which he lead the charge. Is Nuon, Nels? |
   
Ferociouskitty Veteran Poster Username: Ferociouskitty
Post Number: 711 Registered: 02-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 07:56 pm: |
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Hmmm, he looks familiar...maybe a Rundu.com man? |
   
Robynmarie Veteran Poster Username: Robynmarie
Post Number: 915 Registered: 04-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 08:21 pm: |
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Rundu.com man what's that? |
   
Ferociouskitty Veteran Poster Username: Ferociouskitty
Post Number: 712 Registered: 02-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 08:29 pm: |
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http://rundu.com/ |
   
Robynmarie Veteran Poster Username: Robynmarie
Post Number: 916 Registered: 04-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 08:34 pm: |
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Yum. Thanks. |
   
Nels AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Nels
Post Number: 1252 Registered: 07-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 02:17 am: |
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Boo! |
   
Yvettep AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Yvettep
Post Number: 3503 Registered: 01-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 08:03 am: |
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Interesting. The women with their behinds all out remain but some of the men showing as much skin are gone... |
   
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10317 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 08:23 am: |
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Yvettep, That's probably because Troy didn't want this to appear to have become a gay porn site. Big ups to TROY! HAHAHAHAHA!!! |
   
Robynmarie Veteran Poster Username: Robynmarie
Post Number: 917 Registered: 04-2006
Rating:  Votes: 3 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 09:24 am: |
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Typical double standard... The photos of the women in this thread are freakish and offensive. The guys shown were just, well, BIG. LOL. |
   
Yvettep AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Yvettep
Post Number: 3504 Registered: 01-2005
Rating:  Votes: 5 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 09:29 am: |
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Troy didn't want this to appear to have become a gay porn site And pictures of 3/4 naked women on a site frequented mostly by women could be construed as...what, exactly? LOL @ Robynmarie! |
   
Robynmarie Veteran Poster Username: Robynmarie
Post Number: 918 Registered: 04-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 09:37 am: |
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Amen, Yvettep! |
   
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10318 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 10:42 am: |
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Yvettep, It's jes some horny ol' geezers having fun in "a site frequented mostly by women." So don't hate, baby girl. Don't hate. Robynmarie, Fun how within your referring to what Troy (allegedly) did to be "a double standard" while contrasting the quality of pics of the men and those of the women you managed to YOURSELF commit..."a double standard." HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! |
   
Robynmarie Veteran Poster Username: Robynmarie
Post Number: 919 Registered: 04-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 11:05 am: |
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Abm- why are photos of half naked women boys "havin fun" but photos of semi nude male models are "gay porn" that should be deleted? You must believe, as I do, that size/form matters. LOL |
   
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10320 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 11:40 am: |
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Robynmarie, Really. I could care less whether the photos of the men stay posted here. Although it is OBVIOUS those photos were posted SOLELY as a sort of (envious) rebut to what I and Carey were doing. And lets be real here: @ The PRIMARY consumer of female cheesecake and nudie photos are straight men. @ The PRIMARY consumer of male beefcake and nudie photos are GAY men. Any HONESTLY assessment of the markets of those media PROVES that. |
   
Kola_boof AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 4967 Registered: 02-2005
Rating:  Votes: 6 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 12:43 pm: |
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Troy, The removal of those photos only highlights the DOUBLE-STANDARD of how all you MEN would be reacting if "GOD & PENIS" magazine suddenly BANNED Black male models from seeking work as models. These women...were not allowed to AUDITION let alone be chosen. The person blocking them was a dark skinned black man. He didn't block them because they were "unattractive"---he blocked them because they were VISIBLY Black. And our refusal to care about this and thousands of other incidents like it...proves that Martin Luther King and the whole black community is a SHAM overrun with hypocrites. Black men don't want "CHANGE", they want "EXCHANGE." They want to PLAY MASSA, play Al Capone, play Warren Beatty, play John Wayne. Once you get enough NUTS in your sack --it's like we (black women and children) suddenly don't exist. You THINK that Black women like me hate black men, but that's not true. We don't hate brothers---we just LOST RESPECT for many (not all) but many of them. And it's not OUR FAULT. You black men have a fukking problem that over shadows ANYTHING that's deformed or warped in us. Any black female born into American society had better know one thing right now... she has TWO DEVILS snapping at her heels, not just the White one. I honest to God fear for you and ABM's daughters and what's waiting for them at the hand of the "new style" BOYS in the Black Community. And it's because your girls are "black" and have a womb that produces black men that they'll experience being DISALLOWED. Nothing more. IGNORE ME IF YOU WANT TO. But you'll live to see what I'm telling you. And that includes Yvette's girls and every other black woman IN HERE with daughters. And know how you Black Americans are, but I'm sorry, I don't think this shit is right. Serenasailor, I'm not big and bad. I think all black women have experienced being in situations where they're FORCED to stand up for themselves. Yvette and Deesha and Cynique and all the other women in this board are just as powerful (or flawed) as me...we just have different ways of expressing ourselves. No matter when and where we enter--it's very rare for us to be protected, respected and or even...acknowledged. I'm just an extreme case because I make a spectacle of my life. And I do that...because I believe there are young, timid black girls who get a lot of strength and "permission" by watching what Toni Morrison calls "OUTLAW WOMEN" bucking our heads and asses against the status quo. I don't enjoy being at odds with people and being the "outsider" all the time. I cry A LOT after you see me lash out and attack people---because deep down, I wish I could be friends with them and joke and laugh and eat together. There's very few people that I don't like in some sort of way. But when you try to stand for something, and go against the Status Quo---then being shunned and being an enigma comes with the territory. It's a very painful experience--but I honestly don't know what else to do. What has always driven me is seeing my parents murdered in front of me. And being there with the bodies all night. That is what rides my back. I just feel that I have to do something and that I don't have time. I can't accept things the way they are. But I'm not Big and Bad. I'm very soft and I would love to be able to lay in someone's palm and just be fragile. I think all black women have moments of wondering what that's like. Every woman would like to be a wisp of cotton floating on a breeze. - |
   
Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique
Post Number: 13645 Registered: 01-2004
Rating:  Votes: 2 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 01:01 pm: |
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I found myself a little surprised that the male pics were deleted, - almost as if it was all right for the men to drool over the female hotties but that we females shouldn't be salivating over the male hunks. hummmmm. |
   
Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey
Post Number: 1872 Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 01:10 pm: |
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What the hell is going on up in here? It looks like the women took something a little to far and Troy had to put his foot down. I tried to tell yawl ...Troy don't play that mess *lol* Look, I think ABM nailed it. Gay dudes look at gay dudes. Admit it, whoever posted the pictures that someone took down (?), they must have violently crossed the line. Again, I am riding with ABM. The pictures must have been posted as some sort of "get back". The intents were not the same. Hey, I can't help it if ABM is a nasty old man that loves porn ...I mean scantly clothed women. Heck, I hated having to skip over those picture. I kept telling him to stop posting them. Damn, what was this thread about in the first place? How did we get to Playboy and Playgirl? It must be a chicks fault because "...a site frequented mostly by women could be construed as...what, exactly?" Well ...... Stop it ABM, I told you *lol* I hope they take down all the questionable nude pictures ...well, there's one I am thinking about. It's of a black women dressed in leather, sitting in a chair *snicker* (you'd had to have been there) |
   
Jackie Veteran Poster Username: Jackie
Post Number: 667 Registered: 04-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 01:16 pm: |
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Those pictures that were posted were of single men, no gay action. And how the hell do we know the sexuality of the pics of women posted here ?? So, we get to stare at the ass cracks of scantily clad women only ?? Troy that was wacked, wack bamma ! It is a double standard. |
   
Yvettep AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Yvettep
Post Number: 3507 Registered: 01-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 01:29 pm: |
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I will not get into the topic of the "intent" behind any of the posted pictures. Interesting, however, that the original topic (looong time ago lol) seemed to be about an overt preference being expressed for light skinned female models. There was some discussion about which came first: the marketability of "racially ambiguous" women because of preference or the preference in part because that's all we are shown as desirable. Then came examples of women who were, apparently, desirable and marketable. At this point I did, in fact, ignore the conversation. Boys being boys. Or grown men being boys--but all in good fun. I figured there was nothing for me in this thread and went elsewhere. I only became interested when I saw some women commenting on the the thread again, and then when I noticed the deletion of some of the images that were put up by women. Actually I do not even know how the now-missing posts came to be that way. We seem to be assuming Troy deleted them but until he says so for sure, we do not know that. I'll be interested in hearing more. |
   
Ferociouskitty Veteran Poster Username: Ferociouskitty
Post Number: 716 Registered: 02-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 01:46 pm: |
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We seem to be assuming Troy deleted them but until he says so for sure, we do not know that. I'll be interested in hearing more. I thought it could only be RobynMarie (the original poster), or Troy, who would have that kind of access. But yeah...what gives? In some instances the FCC has said butts are okay to show, but not genitalia. But here, IIRC, only the second male pic showed (covered) genitalia. |
   
Yvettep AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Yvettep
Post Number: 3510 Registered: 01-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 01:59 pm: |
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Yes, FK, I assume that as well. For the record, I am not crying foul that there were deletions even if it was Troy. It is his house and he makes the call, period. I just find it interesting. |
   
Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey
Post Number: 1873 Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 02:22 pm: |
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Here's my guestion to the ladies. Be honest, did the male pictures cross the line? |
   
Yvettep AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Yvettep
Post Number: 3512 Registered: 01-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 02:38 pm: |
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What line would that be, Carey? |
   
Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique
Post Number: 13647 Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 03:04 pm: |
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I didn't think they crossed any line. |
   
Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey
Post Number: 1874 Registered: 05-2004
Rating:  Votes: 2 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 03:35 pm: |
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Sometimes the answers are received by what the respondent didn't say. When an question is answered with a question, sometimes the answer is right there. Cynique said she didn't think they crossed any line. She gave an answer. Yevettep, you draw the line and then see if it was crossed. You know the line ...the nutrole doesn't always fly. Well, it depends on who's trying to catch it. |
   
Yvettep AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Yvettep
Post Number: 3515 Registered: 01-2005
Rating:  Votes: 3 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 03:37 pm: |
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Carey, you are the one who brought up "the line." If you clarify what you meant by that then I'd be more than happy to offer an opinion. |
   
Kola_boof AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 4970 Registered: 02-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 03:53 pm: |
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Yvette, Maybe it's because I put up 1 white guy. But he was laying against a fence in a thong with a straw hat on. Nothing bold or bad.
I did put up one black guy from Rundu.com and mentioned that I thought he was too "gay-ish" to be no a Women's beefcake calendar. The others I posted were just routine gorgeous black guys posing with their shirts off.
Robyn started things off with a guy who was cupping his genitals (standing in a tub), but you couldn't see a thing. |
   
Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey
Post Number: 1875 Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 03:58 pm: |
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Thanks Kola. |
   
Robynmarie Veteran Poster Username: Robynmarie
Post Number: 920 Registered: 04-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 04:11 pm: |
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You go, Ms. Kola! |
   
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10322 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 04:16 pm: |
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Carey, As I told Robynmarie, I have no problem with the pics of the men being posted here. But I also understand why Troy wouldn’t want foks mistaking the site for some sort of queer dycks-are-4-us.com website. I just hope the local colored cQQchie coven don’t put a hex on him that causes Troy’s (other) Johnson to fall off. |
   
Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey
Post Number: 1876 Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 04:17 pm: |
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Brown Robin, it's all your fault *lol* |
   
Robynmarie Veteran Poster Username: Robynmarie
Post Number: 921 Registered: 04-2006
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 04:18 pm: |
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You rock Ms Jackie, (let's do coffee soon) FK, I would NEVER take down photos of fine, uh, well endowed black men. LOL. Had to be Troy. LOL. Men seeing other men's "stuff" always make them nervous for some reason. *wink* |
   
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10324 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 04:23 pm: |
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Kola You need to go sit your (deliciously) lanky arse down somewhere. All the pics YOU have posted over the years on this site of dycks and even of men appearing to SODOMIZE each other. Your digging gay soft porn is NO surprise. |
   
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10325 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 04:31 pm: |
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Yvettep, Professor. The ORIGINAL thesis of this thread reference to whether or is it fair for a Black media mogul like P. Diddy to exclusively use lighterskinned women in advertisements for some sort of alcoholic drink. I simply post pictures of women who might appear to FIT the issue in question. I simply attempted to provide visual depictions of what were being lectured. My posting the pics of those buxom, bootilicious beauties was entirely WITHIN the spirit of the original intent of the thread. What followed from there was and is what women often do: Try to spoil (almost ANY) fun guys are having. |
   
Kola_boof AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 4972 Registered: 02-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 04:36 pm: |
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ABM, I DO NOT...."dig" gay soft porn. I'm a HISTORIAN, ABM. When people bring up things...I go and "search photos" and post them to make a point or show something. But just the fact that you spoke to me (acknowledged me) has me in tears. So I will shut up and be good. . |
   
Robynmarie Veteran Poster Username: Robynmarie
Post Number: 922 Registered: 04-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 04:38 pm: |
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Abm- For whatever reason you are uncomfortable with the sight of a musular, smoldering, beautiful black man (which you equate to being gay). May I ask why? Bro Carey, I am guilty as charged. LOL. |
   
Kola_boof AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 4973 Registered: 02-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 04:39 pm: |
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BTW, I love you forever, ABM, for posting the video "Chocolate Legs." I had never seen that & it is glorious. . |
   
Kola_boof AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 4974 Registered: 02-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 04:41 pm: |
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ohmygod! Robyn spoke to me, too! Now I'm really going to cry. LOL! Thank you, my sister, I love you!!!!! And that pic you posted last night was quite "in good taste". Hate I didn't save it. . |
   
Robynmarie Veteran Poster Username: Robynmarie
Post Number: 923 Registered: 04-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 04:47 pm: |
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It's all good Kola. |
   
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10327 Registered: 04-2004
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 04:49 pm: |
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Kola, Girl, please. Do you thang, Bang Bang. Do your thang! And, yeah, that Benet video is a WINNER, ain't it. God, that chick in that video looked good. Can't help wondering if she TASTES as chocolatey as she LOOKS. Robynmarie, As I said, the primary consumers of that media are gay. And because of that, THAT is how it will be viewed by many. But as I said from jump, I PERSONALLY have no problem with it other than it was so obviously less about your desire to show off men, and MORE about your trying to deflect from what I had previously done. In essence, what you did was a form of what they call in the current popular parlance...haterade. |
   
Kola_boof AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 4976 Registered: 02-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 04:52 pm: |
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Hi Carey!  |
   
Robynmarie Veteran Poster Username: Robynmarie
Post Number: 924 Registered: 04-2006
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 04:56 pm: |
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Abm-I ain't fadin' them big bootie bimbos. My point is Troy should delete all questionable photos, men and women, or he should them all alone. Troy, what say you? |
   
Kola_boof AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 4977 Registered: 02-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 04:57 pm: |
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Robyn, I am SO SORRY about your baby passing away. I know how that is. I love animals very much, especially dogs and cats. You always post such great stuff. I hope you were able to find a new pet, though starting over with a new one is its own joy and pain. . |
   
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10330 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 04:58 pm: |
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Robynmarie, Oh. That's what ALL you lil' tootie fruitie booties say. |
   
Robynmarie Veteran Poster Username: Robynmarie
Post Number: 925 Registered: 04-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 05:03 pm: |
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Thanks. We are not quite (emotionally) ready for a kitty yet, but I am hoping soon we will go to animal control "rescue" a little one and bring him home. |
   
Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique
Post Number: 13648 Registered: 01-2004
Rating:  Votes: 6 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 01:40 am: |
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As I observed earlier, the brains of men and women are wired differently. To say that the pictures of fine men were posted by women to spoil the fun of men ogling the pictures of fine women is the height of absurdity. It reveals how ego-centric men can be, always assuming that women react to them as opposed to interacting with something else. If a man's fun is spoiled by women enjoying pictures of hunks instead of envying the hotties in the pictures the men are admiring, then "hater" is hardly the term that describes these women. But "insecure" certainly describes the man. |
   
Jackie Veteran Poster Username: Jackie
Post Number: 668 Registered: 04-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 02:00 am: |
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Awoman to that Cynique ! |
   
Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey
Post Number: 1877 Registered: 05-2004
Rating:  Votes: 5 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 08:11 am: |
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All the "high fives" in the world does not mean that it's right ...Hitler had a high five. One thing his correct, women are wired differently. Men are more honest. Well, what would you call women that are afraid to express an opposing view to one of their so "secure" sistas? Huh ...what would that be called ...strong, weak, fake,what? See, men can have a debate followed by a couple of beers. But nooooooo, not women. Don't say that's not right. The board will speak for itself. If it's not a cat fight it's right. There is one strong and secure black women that visits this board and we all know who that is. ***HIGH FIVE*** **CHEST BUMP** |
   
Yvettep AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Yvettep
Post Number: 3517 Registered: 01-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 09:52 am: |
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FK, I would NEVER take down photos of fine, uh, well endowed black men. LOL! OK, well, then--mystery solved! It's funny the guys think we engage in man-watching to get on their nerves or get back at them. Man, if they could only be a fly on the wall to some of our private conversations... (Right, FK? *winkwink* LOLOL) |
   
Yvettep AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Yvettep
Post Number: 3518 Registered: 01-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 09:53 am: |
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Oops--sorry. I just see Cynique basically already said what I did in my last post. So--co-sign!  |
   
Yvettep AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Yvettep
Post Number: 3519 Registered: 01-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 10:00 am: |
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I simply post pictures of women who might appear to FIT the issue in question. I simply attempted to provide visual depictions of what were being lectured. Yes, ABM. I was not debating that. Again, I had no problems with the photos. (Besides, perhaps, a passing thought as to how uncomfortable it must be to have a piece of material wedged in your backside like that.) I also do not complain about what images were deleted or why--Again, this is not my spot; I am just a guest like the rest of you. |
   
Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique
Post Number: 13649 Registered: 01-2004
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 10:16 am: |
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Would somebody translate to me what Carey just wrote. The only conclusion I can draw from his rant is that I don't know what he's talking about and neither does he. I never appreciate the coherence of Chrishayden's rebuttals more than when I try and muddle through some of Carey's remarks. And to make matters worse, Cary has the nerve to be self-congratulatory. The only thing he can pat himself on the back for is the good job he does of jockin ABM. |
   
Yvettep AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Yvettep
Post Number: 3520 Registered: 01-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 10:33 am: |
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Cynique: It would appear Mr. Carey is making a dig at most of us, while elevating one of us...probably he just wants to see a cat fight between us women. |
   
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10331 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 10:35 am: |
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Carey, Ask KOLA how many times she's posted pics of nearly nude men and even dycks on the board. Ask her has she posted pics where men appear to actually be having sex with each other. Then ask Kola how whether or how often the men who frequent the board complained or even uttered a PEEP of condemnation of what she posted. As always, women see and believe only WTF they WANT to see and believe. |
   
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10332 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 10:41 am: |
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Yvettep: "It's funny the guys think we engage in man-watching to get on their nerves or get back at them. Man, if they could only be a fly on the wall to some of our private conversations..." No one's saying women don't engage in racy & bawdy commentary and behavior. But, again, the primary CONSUMERS of salacious, pornographic VISUAL media are straight and gay MALES. Funny how NONE of you women will dispute that FACT. |
   
Yvettep AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Yvettep
Post Number: 3522 Registered: 01-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 11:03 am: |
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But, again, the primary CONSUMERS of salacious, pornographic VISUAL media are straight and gay MALES. And?... |
   
Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique
Post Number: 13650 Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 11:54 am: |
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ABM says: "As always, women see and believe only WTF they WANT to see and believe." Cynique: This statement is a desperate attempt to deflect attention from the fact that it is men who are blinded to the truth by the fragile egos that are trembling just beneathe the surface of their superficial toughness. ABM says: "No one's saying women don't engage in racy & bawdy commentary and behavior. But, again, the primary CONSUMERS of salacious, pornographic VISUAL media are straight and gay MALES." Cynique says: You or nobody else knows what women are consuming when it comes to their private sexual fantasies. And looking at photos of male hunks is not synonymous with bawdy behavior. |
   
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10339 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 12:05 pm: |
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Yvettep, I have in several different posts and ways answered your question. Please. I thought you were educated... |
   
Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique
Post Number: 13651 Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 12:05 pm: |
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Thanks, for your clarification, Yvette. So Carey wants to sic us women on each other, huh? It's noteworthy that the head feline most prone to taking on other women in a cat fight never gets a lot of opposition when she deconstructs the male psyche. Kola Boof is a connisseur of men and I, for on, rarely argue with her about this particular subject, |
   
Kola_boof AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 4983 Registered: 02-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 12:13 pm: |
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ABM, You're leaving out the CONTEXT in which I posted those photos. It wasn't at all for "pleasure" or girl-bonding. Those African photos of African men having sex at the groom's bachelor party (before marrying a female the next day)--were for EDUCATIONAL purposes. In "ISLAMIC" communities, as well, SEXISM often leads men to sexing each other--mainly because they don't respect or hold females in esteem. Humans want to make love to what they respect. And I have posted FAR MORE photos of Black men and Black women having sex together. What I MOSTLY POSTED---were topless shots of myself. In fact, almost all of my photos of were of ME or "dark skinned beauties" in my quest to show that we do exist in large numbers. Or Mzuri
Dang, Mzuri! ___________ CAREY, I love you, King. But please don't USE ME to divide up the sisters and turn us against each other. You MALES do to us just what WHITES do to Blacks. Now you're raising up the MYTH of "Big Bad Kola" to put down equally strong and important women. Let me tell you----Kola gets her ass kicked, A LOT. I envy Cynique, Yvette, Deesha, Robynmarie, Jackie and most of the women here for knowing how to carefully pick and choose their battles. I envy their "control." I would win a lot more battles if I had their powers of "control." Me..I'm just a crazy ass heathen. Lol! Orphans are at the mercy of the world. Orphans are forever alone. "Female" Orphans are notorious for "mothering" whatever group they enter---or they become introverted. You can see I'm not introverted. ________ I agree 100% with Cynique's post on the men being delusional in thinking we're trying to spoil their fun. They are insecure if they're bothered by us posting BEEFCAKE pics. ABM says: But, again, the primary CONSUMERS of salacious, pornographic VISUAL media are straight and gay MALES. BUT ABM, That's only because MALES have a higher sex drive than females in general. And you can't compare "KOLA" because I'm a WOMANIST who believes that prostitutes (who don't have pimps) are the "freest" of women and that prostitution should be legal so that women OWN their vaginas and not marriage. ABM...I have never had sex with a BLACK MEN who didn't ask me in the middle of it---"Who's pussy is this?" I always say: "Yours daddy." Because I understand human nature and what it means to men (and in fact, half of my manipulation of men is worshipping them--all African women worship and cater to men, I'm no different. But when I reply: "Yours daddy." I don't mean that shit. Though I love men and insist on deep binding relationships with men--I OWN my pussy, ABM, not "marriage/men." I feel no shame in masturbation. And when I'm "single"....I have no shame in having a one night stand, a threesome with 2 guys or whatever else I want. I like sex...and sex is for MY ENJOYMENT and pleasure. Therefore, I don't believe in the idea that women can be "HO's" or "Whores"---to me, women should be allowed to fulfill and explore their desires. I don't...however...possess the Male sex drive, so I haven't been able to LIVE OUT what I preach. But yeah--I'm all for women having LOTS of sex and variety. BUT.... let me clue you into a secret, ABM. Because you MEN are so "HORNY" and "EASY" and ready all the time..... ..we women don't have to collect PHOTOS of you guys naked or sexual images. I collect thousands of photos of everything in the universe and it all relates to my WORK or my RESEARCH as an author/historian. . . |
   
Kola_boof AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 4984 Registered: 02-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 12:23 pm: |
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CAREY, I love you-- But please don't USE ME to divide up the sisters and turn us against each other. You MALES do to us just what WHITES do to Blacks. Now you're raising up the MYTH of "Big Bad Kola" to put down equally strong and important women. Let me tell you----Kola gets her ass kicked, A LOT. I envy Cynique, Yvette, Deesha, Robynmarie, Jackie and most of the women here for knowing how to carefully pick and choose their battles. I envy their "control." I would win a lot more battles if I had their powers of "control." Me..I'm just a crazy ass heathen. Lol! Orphans (as children) are at the mercy of the world. Orphans are forever alone. "Female" Orphans are notorious for "mothering" whatever group they enter---or they become introverted. You can see I'm not introverted. - |
   
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10341 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 01:37 pm: |
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Kola, So then it's okay for YOU to post pics of half-naiked men, penises and men sodomomizing each other because you did such for what you presume to be more innobled purposes than what I and Carey indulged? Interesting argument. And a most convenient one, as well. Now, Kola, I KNOW you've posted picks of men - and not just BLACK men - on this site entirely or primarily for reasons to titilate yourself and other females. Hell, you have treated us to numerous beefcake shots of Evander ('Kola's fantasy babydaddy') Holyfield alone. You even posted shots of some young Puerto Rican stud you were nailing. And I recall several of the other female posters gave you your propers for those posting. Yet there was nary a peep from the TC brothahood. Although I seem to call myself joking that with all the kids Holyfield has spreaded throughout the nation, dude's laid more pipe that the entire membership of the National Association of Pipefitter...Hahahahahaha!!! And, AGAIN, I PERSONALLY had no problem with the beefcake pics posted here. Although I quipped about them being gay porn, I did not really expect them to be removed. But other posting have been removed from this site. And I mostly just figure if Troy don't want it here, it shouldn't be here. Because, hey, Bottomline: TROY pays the bills. *shrugs* P.S. I have never viewed myself as owning some woman's pv$$y. Not even that of my wife's. All I've ever wanted of a sista were a fairly liberal vaginal right-of-way. *snicker* |
   
Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey
Post Number: 1878 Registered: 05-2004
Rating:  Votes: 2 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 02:32 pm: |
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Okay Cynique, turn up your hearing aid. Check the posts. THE WOMEN THAT VISIT THIS BOARD (and post) STROKE EACH OTHER UNTIL THEIR PALMS BLEED! THEY SELDOM VOICE AN OPPOSING VIEW TO EACH OTHER! Your emotions are protected/frozen by your inabilty to say you are wrong. That's why you love being a cynic; it's comfortable, it allows you to be mean, there by accomplishing your goal of staying in mess. That's right, I said it, messy mess ...and you LOVE IT. Heard me? |
   
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10342 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 02:37 pm: |
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Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique
Post Number: 13653 Registered: 01-2004
Rating:  Votes: 3 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 04:47 pm: |
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Puleeze, Carey. You get more pathetic by the moment. The women on this board suppport and agree with each other for the most part because we all engage in taking a common sense appproach to the questions that baffle idiots like you. You are the one who becomes totally deflated when people don't agree with you. That makes you somebody who has a difficult time accepting being wrong. Just because I find you a cipher, doesn't make me mean. I love Troy and NTFS. Why? because they are not full of themselves, and their arguments do not so blantantly beg to be challenged. I adore ol crazy Chrishayden because he is so adept at expressing his insanity. |
   
Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique
Post Number: 13656 Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 05:49 pm: |
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BTW, Carey, instead of engaging in all of that psycho-babbo mistakenly thinking you have me all figured out, you need to focus on yourself and wonder why you so desperately need to be patted on the head. I am pretty spontaneous in my posts of this board, usually saying things off the top of my head. I do not have an agenda and I don't take myself as seriously as some people may think I do.  |
   
Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey
Post Number: 1879 Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 08:17 pm: |
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You are such an easy MARK, Cynique. When I need a laugh, I shoot something your way and wait for you to wiggle back ...wiggle back like a worm on a hook. I guess love can be a 1 way street because if you knew what Chris Hayden was saying about you in private...... it's not psycho-baabo-ish, it's ugly. Your words sound serious to me. I'll just take your word on it. You can fool some of the people some of the time but.... |
   
Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique
Post Number: 13659 Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 09:15 pm: |
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I don't care what ol nutty chrishayden is saying about me in private, Carey. I still give the guy his props for being articulate, especially when he's reaming you and your sorry ass out. As for me being an easy mark for you, dream on. The only target you hit is my funny bone when I chuckle at how deluded you are in thinking that a dud like you could possibly think your bullets even get out of the gun barrel.  |
   
Kola_boof AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 4986 Registered: 02-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 09:23 pm: |
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Troy, I apologize for putting vulgar and explicit photos on your site in the past. I now realize that kids and teens probably surf here, reading up on their IDOLS, and now that I've become one to a certain segment myself, I realize that I should have been more responsible and discreet. I am sorry and that was wrong of me back in the day. Your brother, Kola ABM, You guys think I can't tell that you're being COACHED. Some of these statements are laughable. Just know that MAMA has eyes in the back of her wig. And the FEDS. BTW... I do prefer marriage/monogamy if I can get it. (The 10 years with my children's father was the BEST EXPERIENCE of my entire life---and in old age---I will be blessed with a plethora of happy memories.) I agree with you that a "Couple" should have right away access to their spouse sexually (unless of pregnancy or whatever else might cause temporary lapse). But one of the two things my children's father constantly tells me he MISSES about me now that he's with his YOUNGER WOMAN.....is my cooking and my imaginative and unpredictable sex. It's SO HARD not to let him hit it sometimes (we're such great friends!), but I just refuse and won't ever be second fiddle. I'd rather whore around with other guys who mean nothing to me. But what I love...is that I do as I please without any guilt or answering to authority. I used to hate seeing photos of Black men with White women (like the one you just posted of Kanye West). ...but then after I began bedding so many White men and Latino myself, a huge part of me stopped caring and realized that the antidote to what many black women feel is to simply THINK MORE LIKE MEN and stop have expectations of them. It is better to have "several men" for several different needs---and then have ones space, career and children as the central focus. My kids' father (whose name is really SIMON now that the NY POST printed it, might as well use his real one)...he calls the boys every day and stays here on the weekends taking them fishing and hunting...and in fact, he spends a lot more "extended free time" with them than I do. (my time with them is usally 'cooking' --serving meals---cleaning w/them, checking homework) CLEARLY...they have their father and both of us get along fantastically--we just aren't together. But they have their father and I don't EVER bring my men to the house. So I am finding that women can have much fuller and rewarding lives if they pick the right father (one who will ignore her and BE a father)..and free themselves (the women) of all the "Christian" "Sexist" "loyalty" bullshit and do what their spirits move them to do with their lives. That's what I do. I have multiple boyfriends away from home...I have my bedroom/office to all to myself and I have Simon to raise our sons in ways that I'm not able to. ALTHOUGH...it's me who taught the boys how to SHOOT GUNS and build boats. But still, I agree with you that WOMEN can't teach boys how to be MEN. Oh hell--- Is this the wrong thread? I think it is. Senility and blindness have been creeping up you know. . . |
   
Kola_boof AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 4987 Registered: 02-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 09:27 pm: |
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Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10343 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, April 18, 2009 - 09:56 am: |
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Kola, I am totally confused by what you mean by my somehow being "COACHED". And what "FEDS" are you referring to and why are they relevant to what we are discussing? I don’t doubt you generously share your sex with your man. You might be many things. However, FAR from a frigid dyckteaser you appear to be. And I am happy for you you appear to have made your peace with whom you believe to be a really good father of your children and that you seem content with how you satisfy your carnal desires. With respect to the latter, as long as you and your lovers are safe, prudent and happy, nothing else matters. However, I won’t pretend to know what makes you and really any other woman happy (perhaps, even including my own WIFE). And, honestly, I doubt MOST of you know that either. Btw: Perhaps it won’t move you. But it is my understanding the woman in the pic with Kanye is biracial. |
   
Kola_boof AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Kola_boof
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Kola_boof AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Kola_boof
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Kola_boof AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Kola_boof
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Kola_boof AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Kola_boof
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Kola_boof AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Kola_boof
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Kola_boof AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Kola_boof
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Kola_boof AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 4996 Registered: 02-2005
Rating:  Votes: 2 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, April 18, 2009 - 12:34 pm: |
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ABM, you're best. Don't take me so seriously, King. I just crave your attention is all. Sorry. |
   
Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique
Post Number: 13662 Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, April 18, 2009 - 03:58 pm: |
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Damn, Kola. They say one picture is worth a thousand words. Obviously you don't agree. Your consumption of space is like a co-worker who has returned from vacation and bores everybody by forcing them to sort through all the pictures she took.  |
   
Kola_boof AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 4997 Registered: 02-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, April 18, 2009 - 04:20 pm: |
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lol! True, Cynique. |
   
Schakspir AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Schakspir
Post Number: 1253 Registered: 12-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 11:46 am: |
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Yes, we are quite bored. More Bria Myles, please.... |
   
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10344 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 02:55 pm: |
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Kola, Those last series of photos you posted are very BEAUTIFUL. Thanks for posting them.  |
   
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10345 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 02:57 pm: |
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Schakspir, Everytime I see that Bria Myles, I can't help wondering is it too late for a middle age Black man to start a rap career. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! |
   
Kola_boof AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 4998 Registered: 02-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 02:40 am: |
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Thanks ABM. To me, if you look closely, the ones I posted are much sexier, because they include mental/spiritual energy along with the erotic vibe. I don't, ABM, look at beefcake or porn photos in my leisure....but I do get turned on by seeing images of women like myself being embraced and sexually fettered by males like the romantic images I posted. I do like porno videos, though. Out of respect for my personal friend, Buffy the Body, I won't pump up Bria. But I do admire both girls and I pay homage to them by name in my upcoming novel "Virgins In the Beehive." Especially Buffy the Body. I see them as "modern day Jayne Mansfields" and I am a huge fan of Jayne Mansfield and Marilyn Monroe, so I LOVE Buffy's voice and how she parades as a sexi-fied country girl in her videos. I'd love to remake "The Girl Can't Help It" with Buffy the Body. It's amazing that no black male filmmakers have noticed what a comic flair she has and how aware she is of how to tease and thrill. She has every raw ingredient that the old 50's bombshells had. People forget that "red-headed" Marilyn and "black haired" Jayne had to be refined, coached and carefully invented for the camera. Buffy is "raw power" and has the personality and comic timing to be a type of Black Female film star that we've never had ---(the closest we came was Lola Folana). But Buffy could actually be a Jayne Mansfield --despite the INITIAL RESISTENCE the black community would put up.
Whereas white girls want to be "Wonder Woman," girls where I'm from wanted to look like Buffy, BRIA Miles or Jayne Mansfield (Buffy dipped in Chocolate). So I don't see Buffy and Bria as "negative" images like a lot of black women do. I get sick of the boring-ass Kerry Washington, Diana Ross black/diva/sexy women...I want the comical STACKED ooomph girl get her due. And yes...that novel is finally coming out this year. *** This here is my favorite character in the book (because she's partly based me), Destiny Matthews.
She's the anti-heroine of "Virgins In the Beehive." Resident smart bi/tch and shameless SEX Machine rolled into one ambitious body. |
   
Schakspir AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Schakspir
Post Number: 1254 Registered: 12-2005
Rating:  Votes: 4 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 07:45 am: |
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Lovely figure, and an absolutely vicious face. It's no surprise to me that so many Black American women can't find any decent man, and only wind up with queers, hoodlums, schmucks, etc. Ladies, listen: you need more than a large ass and nice skin and big boobs to snag a guy. You need something even more important than that. It's called GAME. |
   
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10346 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 10:20 am: |
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Kola, I agree the pics you posted Saturday morning are especially beautiful. Because, yes, they appear to represent so much more than mere physical beauty. I figure you do not gawk at beefcake photos. FEW women do, actually. Which is what I have debated here about the pics you and Robynmarie posted constituting a sort of GAYE porn. Because women generally are NOT nearly as interested in leering at the beautiful bodies of men as men are in looking at those of women or in the case of gay men of other men. Thanks A LOT for treating the fellas with pics of the UBER-bootilious Buffie (Or I call...The Erection Slayer). I am more a fan of Bria than I am of Buffie. I find Bria to be prettier and, in spite of the nature of the work she does, she always manages to project a sort of wholesome, also innocent ingénue persona that drives a part of me WILD. But I will respect your friendship with Buffie. And ENJOY the pics of her you have posted here. I hope Buffie and Bria get chances to display more of what they have to offer the world than simply that which their gluteus maximui so proudly declare, although I agree there is no more a reason to criticize Buffie and Bria for what they do than we do what a lot of OTHER and mostly WHITE female media stars do who do not suffer a FRACTIONS of the condemnations that Buffie and Bria endure. And I look forward to reading "Virgins In The Beehive". Will it include pictures like that of "Destiny Matthews"? If so...*YUMMY* |
   
Kola_boof AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 4999 Registered: 02-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 12:29 pm: |
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No, ABM, "Virgins" won't have any photos in it...but as you know about my writing; I can make the reader literally SEE with words. It's a very daring book. Think of the hip hop word colliding with Valley of the Dolls. The male hero is a black guy, Steven Frame. The male villain is his younger brother. And KOOL-TV, the black music video channel. (NOTE: the soap that I learned to speak English from, long cancelled "Another World" featured the rugged superstar leading man character "STEVEN FRAME" at the height of its ratings glory. So in homage, I named my black adonis filmmaker, Steven Frame. The book is LOADED with homages to all kindds of pop culture landmarks, even a lot of negative ones--like my beloved straightening comb and POP ROCKS on the tongue licking the pussy.} Honestly, ABM...will a guy like you enjoy "Virgins In the Beehive"? "Virgins" is ultimately an artsy black girly-sex & Hollywood book, stock full of "Kola Opinion" and you would probably MOSTLY Enjoy the out of this world sex scenes. And the SONG LYRICS. You'll love those. There's two hot white girls in the book, too. Koko and Babe Cat. And balloon-booty Destiny kicks a whole lot of people's ass literally and physically. In fact...several of the NY houses passed on publishing the book because they felt Destiny was such a shocking character ---even for Hip Hop standards. Destiny starts as "Earthquake Eve"---a stripper who LOVES being called "." Because of music videos and the fact that she has a voice like Patti Labelle, She literally conquers the world. The major houses didn't like an angry, fatherless, SHAMELESS shit-talking black woman like Destiny reaching the places in the book that she reaches. I just loved writing her so much, though, and couldn't see toning her down. But overall, I'm not certain that you'll love the book's Kola-ness. You know me so well...it will be like reading a 400 page "albeit very entertaining" Kola Post. LOL! It's really designed to introduce me to the STREET-LIT crowd, many of whom already like my swagger and boldness, but haven't been able to tackle "Flesh" or "Long Train." These sisters are NOT waiting to exhale. And they're like me--at the core they want love; but they also don't give a fa-fu/ck. They're young and they're on a rampage and they can sing their fucking hearts out! - |
   
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10348 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 12:52 pm: |
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Kola, I LOVE the daring exoticism and eroticism of your writing, babe. So I am sure I will enjoy the great imagery "Virgins" will surely provoke, starting with, of course, the irony of the book title. |
   
Kola_boof AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 5000 Registered: 02-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 01:07 pm: |
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Part 2 ABM, Bria "IS" prettier and she actually is quite innocent. But she doesn't have the personality or acting ability that Buffie has, unfortunately. For instance--I always thought that Jayne Mansfield was hotter than Marilyn Monroe. But Jayne didn't have the "smarts" or the talent that Marilyn had. Marilyn was actually quite gifted, but also an orphan and suffered control issues. She had trouble accepting that she was alone and unloved, much the way that I do. But there are films she made that prove she was a great, great actress. Jayne Mansfield, although hotter, just didn't have a lot of depth. Buffie is honestly a performer and found a way to draw attention to herself via her physical gift. Believe it or not...conversating with Buffie will remind you of OPRAH. She's unabashedly a country girl...but very smart and quick. Buffie has a GORGEOUS face, both she and Bria do, but they're dark skinned black---so a lot of people don't look close enough at their features to see that they're just as pretty as Pamela Anderson or any of these other bombshells with make up on. Buffie has a nose just as slender as a white girl's...and her lips are bow-shaped; her cheekbones are girlish and there's no way that anyone can claim she isn't pretty and then say that Pamela Anderson IS. The chocolate skin immediately rules them (Buffie and Bria) "LESSER than." But it's simply not true. I feel that if Buffie was properly photographed in a 2 hour movie that showcased her looks in CLOSE-UP and showed what great comic timing and personality she has---she'd break new ground for the Black Bombshells. Do you realize that black women models are hardly given 2 and 3 hour "spot checks" and "lighting technique" the way that OTHER women modeling are? They just throw a black girl in the scene and start shooting--nobody tries to PLAY UP their beauty. The soap star Victoria Rowell very correctly complained about the fact that Black Soap Stars have to do their own hair in the morning when they get to the studio. She also complained about not being "LIT" and "Blocked" the way her White female counterparts are Blocked and lit. Black women's beauty has not even been presented on screen yet, ABM...and men like PUFFY don't give a shit either. The LIE that up-ends us as a people is that the Black Man's Mother just isn't beautiful and is in fact, inferior ---which is proof that he himself is inferior. Of course, you'll never hear a "smart guy" like Shakspir noticing such. Because over all, black men don't know math. And they don't understand that whatever their MOTHER is, so too are they. I know in my heart that the chief advantage of OTHER girls is that they have fathers to raise them and present them with positive images of themselves. Black girls don't have that. And they don't get "good lighting" or camera angle "Blocking." Look what Troy Johnson did to me...and then look at how he photographed nearly white Mary B. Morrison. Notice the contrast in how those photos were shot. And he's not even a professional. - |
   
Kola_boof AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 5001 Registered: 02-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 01:36 pm: |
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BTW, Of crucial importance is the fact that I, Kola Boof, DID have a great father who presented me with positive images of myself. And more than anything, as my autobiography showed, it was the love and acceptance of a Black father that kept me from totally destructing and committing suicide. There's no way, ABM--considering how I started my life--that I should be alive. Psychiatric care was nothing compared to the WILL of my Black American father (and the spirit of my Arab Egyptian father). I am just like them. And I don't see a lot of other black girls like me. They don't seem to have gotten what I got. . |
   
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10349 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 01:41 pm: |
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Kola, I have hardly seen enuff of Mansfield to aptly compare her to Monroe. Although I would much rather have EITHER of those chicks than about ANY of the current breed of stickfigure White chicks who currently reign in La La Land. And I know even LESS about either Bria's or Buffie's acting talents (except as such relates to their appearing to enjoy being nearly nude in front of myriad cameras). I think my only problem with Buffie is that style of wig and/or hair extensions she appear to always don. Something about that style just does NOT quite work for me. But I agree the ONLY difference between Bria and Buffie versus Pamela Anderson is that Anderson is White and (artificially) blond. Both Bria and Buffie's BODIES run LAPS over that of Ms. Baywatch! And I agree that, in general, Black female beauty is NOT as fairly and fully featured and feted as that of White females. |
   
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10350 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 01:45 pm: |
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Kola, The cycle and consequences of Black fatherlessness is created by the whole of Black America, thus, can really only be cured by the WHOLE of Black America... |
   
Kola_boof AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 5002 Registered: 02-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 02:31 pm: |
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I totally agree ABM. And the reason I agree is because of my father and because of my children's wonderful father. You remember my line in Flesh and the Devil: "you have to give birth to the people that you need." This is what I preach to younger black women all the time, that they must be the ones to VISUALIZE, CONCEIVE and literally dream into being...the people that they need. It's too late for us living right now ---but we could still save our people down the road. A lot of our suffering at the hands of black men is directly related to Black women's monumental self-hatred and the fact that hating the essence of one's self produces children...that hate & reject you in turn..because they are on some level a disappointment to you. But Africans are so stubborn, so proud, so in denial about our crushing cult of self-loathing. My great adoration of you ABM, is that in a feminine way...I understand your views and realize they are mostly shared by me. I also respect your MALE-ness and your unapologetic naturalness and that we shouldn't try to suppress that. I do think men are "sexist", but as I've often admitted in my writings---all of my men have been sexist pigs. They're the only ones I get energy from. BUT... You're rare in that you don't secretly hate our people...you actually love us all and want to see us healthy and whole. Somehow, though, you haven't appreciated that you are a rarity. YOU ARE. Many "talk the talk, ABM"...but few feel as objectively and with such acceptance of our natural physicality as you do. That is what we need if we are to survive. All of us with "African tribal blood" are the Bloodberry. . |
   
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10351 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 03:07 pm: |
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Kola, I can understand why you as a woman, especially a BLACK woman, feel disappointed in Black men as a whole. I am not particularly rare, now unique. I too share and have reveled in much of the weakness that you describe of Black men. And, honestly, I have felt it for myself personally and as a part of the collective of Black men through this world, and even throughout history. I think the greatest fear Black men have is that you sistas will somehow eventually abandon us, forever. But what is unfortunate for you is in your heart and spirit, you have NO place else to turn... |
   
Schakspir AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Schakspir
Post Number: 1255 Registered: 12-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 05:02 pm: |
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"The LIE that up-ends us as a people is that the Black Man's Mother just isn't beautiful and is in fact, inferior ---which is proof that he himself is inferior. Of course, you'll never hear a "smart guy" like Shakspir noticing such. Because over all, black men don't know math. And they don't understand that whatever their MOTHER is, so too are they." black mother = black woman ergo, black woman = black man Am I not correct? Your bitter disappointment in black men is essentially reflective of how you REALLY feel about yourself. |
   
Serenasailor AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Serenasailor
Post Number: 1901 Registered: 01-2006
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 12:49 pm: |
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That the same comment I have been making about Gabrielle Union. Even though Gabrielle, Megan Good, and Kenya Moore are Chocolate skinned actresses. They still don't get as much attention as regular White or light actresses from the media. However, these women are so beautiful that it is hard not to notice them. Gabrielle Union has been described as the most beautiful women in show business. In fact, White tennis player Andy Roddick and singer Justin Timberlake both said that she was the most beautiful woman that they have ever layed eyes on. Now how many women in our communities look like Gabrielle, Megan, Kenya etc? I can think of at least 10 women in my hood that look like them if not better. Now we all know how the media looks at chocolate skinned women like them. Mammy's, desexualized maids, crackheads etc. However, these women were so beautiful that you simply couldn't do this to them. That is why I praise Naomi Campbell. One of the few chocolate skinned women who was seen as the most beautiful women in the world. Naomi seems like a character out of one of Kola's books. Smart, sassy, bitchy, dark and strikingly beautiful. Uses her sexuality to get what she wants out of men both Black and White. Naomi's Russian billionaire boyfriend just bought her a $25 million condo in Brazil. Now if that ain't a bad Bytch then you better tell me what is!!! That is the power that Black American women have. However, there sexuality has been repressed for so long and by so many people that they just don't do it. Also, the constant "hampering" from the media telling them that they are not as beautiful as women of other races, so therefore they have no right to be "sexual". This is what Black men like P.Dummy and his "ilk" buy into. Now you mean to tell me Diddy couldn't find NOT ONE or two one skinned woman that looked like his baby momma? Gimme a Break!! |
   
Serenasailor AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Serenasailor
Post Number: 1902 Registered: 01-2006
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 12:52 pm: |
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I don't really care for Buffie even tho I do think that she is prettier than Bria. However, I have heard interviews with Buffie the body and she is obnoxious and ghetto. Also, her booty is fake. Bria on the other hand I have a "soft" spot for. She is from my hometown of N.Hollywood,Ca. She also seems grounded and "well spoken". |
   
Serenasailor AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Serenasailor
Post Number: 1904 Registered: 01-2006
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 12:59 pm: |
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That is the type of f** up azz colorism that I notice in the media. Even though Gabrielle, Megan and Kenya are waaaaaaaaay prettier than Beyonce, there features are just 'too Black and ethnic'. So they don't get the magazine covers and expensive photoshoots and as Bey. |
   
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10358 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 02:53 pm: |
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Serenasailor: "Even though Gabrielle, Megan and Kenya are waaaaaaaaay prettier than Beyonce..." There is a such thing as going TOO far to make what otherwise might be a valid point. |
   
Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey
Post Number: 1881 Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 11:18 am: |
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OH BOY! Do you guys realize that this tread has recieved over 150 posts! I feel a Sunday special edition. Let me get my scissors ...it's cut and past time **evil grin** oooouuuweeee, no one will be spared. I wish I knew how to super-impose heads on different bodies. Nawl, I wouldn't do that? |
   
Serenasailor AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Serenasailor
Post Number: 1905 Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 01:56 pm: |
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ABM how is that going too far. That is how I feel. Also, is it "too far" to suggest that these chocolate skinned women can be just as beautiful if not prettier than a light woman? Let me know!! |
   
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10362 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 05:41 pm: |
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Serenasailor, You did NOT initially say those women are "just as beautiful if not prettier than [Beyonce]". You said they were "waaaaaaaaay prettier than Beyonce..." And I believe the latter to be neither necessary nor even true. They all are, indeed, startlingly beautiful women (And Gabby Union is my favorite of them ALL!). Regardless of their hue, they all - including Beyonce - should be admired. And I just do NOT believe it to be fair or necessary to try to diminish or degrade Beyonce just to embellish and or promote Gabrielle, Meagan and Kenya. |
   
Troy AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Troy
Post Number: 1753 Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 10:38 pm: |
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OK, I did not read everything here, so I apologize if I did not answer a question addressed to me... I did delete the the photo of the dude with the semi hard erection protruding through draws so shear that you could see that he was circumcised. The reasons should be obvious. I don't like deleting posts. If I deleted everything I did not like; that defeats the purpose of the discussion board. Have to admit after looking at the last set of photos Kola and NTFS posted and thinking of the positive emotions evoked. You do appreciate the power of the imagery -- especially in stark contrast to the Kanye West shot (I thought Kayne was one of the "conscious/righteous/positive" artists people lump in with Mos Def and Common) Seems ABM, Carey and the other fellas "get" what I was saying, while most of the women (save Cynique) don't. |
   
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10365 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 24, 2009 - 10:31 am: |
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Troy, Troy: "...in stark contrast to the Kanye West shot (I thought Kayne was one of the ‘conscious/righteous/positive’ artists people lump in with Mos Def and Common)" I think the tragic and totally unnecessary death of Kanye’s mom has him spinning in a I Just Don’t G.A.F mode. Funny you mentioned Common. Because I understand things are getting pretty thick between Common and the deliciously chocolaty Serena Williams. Even heard some NUPTIALS might be in the offing. So I suppose Common should be beloved by BB123, Kola and the other resident TC color police. Troy: "I did delete the the photo of the dude with the semi hard erection protruding through draws so shear that you could see that he was circumcised. The reasons should be obvious." So I guess that would be an ixnay on my posting pics of the camel toe of especially cQQchielious women, huh? HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! |
   
Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey
Post Number: 1885 Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 24, 2009 - 12:22 pm: |
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TC color police *lol*! You left out Booty patrol and spin doctors. Did I mention men haters ...are there a few of them roaming the halls of TC? |
   
Troy AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Troy
Post Number: 1755 Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 24, 2009 - 02:15 pm: |
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Abm, yes, please save the camel toe photos for a different discussion board - a verbal description (or a link to such) would more than suffice for any conversation on these boards. |
   
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 10371 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 24, 2009 - 02:47 pm: |
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Carey, Good catch! Where appropriate, I will be sure to include future referene to your "Booty patrol", "spin doctors" and "man haters" and my "color police", "erection killers" and "high yella b*tch haters". HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Troy, Will do. And I won't get mad if you delete camel toe pics while allowing Kola to post her (deliciously milky) boob shots. |
   
Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey
Post Number: 1887 Registered: 05-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 24, 2009 - 07:41 pm: |
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Okay ABM, handle yo bizness and I'll ride shotgun. You did notice I said I'll be in the passengers seat. Shit, when them mommas come to put the blast on somebody, I hope they take out the driver. What you talkin'bout Willis. Momma didn't raise no fools. See, you's a bad Mf'er and am just a squirel trying to get crack a few "nuts" *lol*. |
   
Lil_ze Veteran Poster Username: Lil_ze
Post Number: 955 Registered: 01-2006
Rating:  Votes: 2 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, May 30, 2009 - 10:11 pm: |
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well first off, buffy the body is a disgusting pig. second, if p. diddy wants ONLY light-skin females in HIS ads then, so what? if a female business person wanted to do an ad campain featuring ALL dark skin males (who look like tyrese, then all of the people "up in arms" about diddy's ads would be applauding these ads featuring dark skin males. but as soon as a black person places other BLACK PEOPLE (if they are light they are still black, like it or not) in an ad campain there is a problem. why would an ad campain full of dark skin black people be appluaded and an ad campain full of light skin BLACK PEOPLE be scorned? because AS USUAL you have a bunch of color-struck black people with a SERIOUS inferiority complex, who can't seem to stand seeing other black people get attention. sad, but VERY true. ive got bad news for some of you- light skin black females ARE BLACK!!!!!!!! and although it might hurt some of you, BLACK MEN find light skin black women attractive. thats just a fact of life. light skin females are NEVER going away, so if p. diddy or every black male wants to fawn over them, they have every RIGHT, and should not feel ashamed for feeling this way. i see after all this time away, the same old divide and conquer, color struck GARBAGE still goes on. |