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     Yvettep AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Yvettep Post Number: 3474 Registered: 01-2005 Rating: N/A |
At a time when America has elected its first black president, more African-American men are losing jobs than at any time since World War II. No group has been hit harder by the downturn. Employment among black men has fallen 7.8 percent since November of 2007, according to a report by the Center for Labor Market Studies at Northeastern University in Boston. The trend is intimately tied to education, the report’s authors say. Black women – who are twice as likely as black men to go to college – have faced no net job losses. By contrast, black men are disproportionately employed in those blue-collar jobs that have been most highly affected – think third shifts at rural manufacturing plants. It threatens to add to the difficulties of vulnerable families in a community already beset by high incarceration rates and low graduation numbers. Moreover, it puts renewed focus on the cultural and economic stereotypes of black women and men – mythologies and realities about the black family that remain challenging for the country, and Washington, to address. In terms of job-loss rate for African-American men, “nothing comes close to this,” says Andrew Sum, director of the Center for Labor Market Studies and an author of the report, noting that the job-loss rate for African-American men during the Great Depression is unknown.... Full article: http://features.csmonitor.com/economyrebuild/2009/03/15/job-losses-hit-black-men -hardest/ | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 1779 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
Nice post Yevettep. A deeper question is WHY are black more affected. Sure, certain types of job were more attractive to black men, especially the ones that required no education, only a strong back. What's interesting about this issue ...well, to me, is that I just left a conversation on this topic. Many men in this discussion pointed their fingers at ...yes, the "man". they wanted to throw racism n the table. We all know that racism is an intricate part of the denial of black men the same rewards of others. Okay, lets sweep that off the table, that's a given, yet, what are others obsticles in the way? One of the gentlemen hit me with the ol'line that I had advantages that he didn't. Now, I stood up on that one and the "debate" got heated. He had assumed that I had some kind of silver spoon in my mouth or was plugged in a way that he was not. Anyway, why is the black man feeling the crunch more that other groups? Is there something that the black man is not coming to grips with? | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 13588 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
That Black man may have a legitimate argument against you, Carey, if you have skills that he doesn't. Being qualified and experienced is what counts when competing for a job that pays a livable wage. And the unemployment situation will soon be exacerbated as the pool becomes more crowded with professionals who've been downsized, and forced to seek jobs at a lower level, openings for which they may have better skills. The resume of an office supervisor would certainly be more impressive than that of a high school drop-out when it comes to competing for a management position at - McDonalds. Also, black men are rendered handicapped in the job market because so many have been convicted of misdemeanors and felonies, and employers are reluctant to give these ex-offenders a second chance to prove themselves. | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 1780 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
"That Black man may have a legitimate argument against you, Carey, if you have skills that he doesn't" Thanks Cynique, that was the point I was trying to make to him. Hell, I am a convicted bank robber and before that I was always a black man from very humble surroundings. We were the only ones in our neighborhood that didn't have a car. We didn't even have a phone. Now I am not saying that I have all these great skills. I was trying to get them to look inside and find out what they are bringing to the table. It ain't always about a police record or only having a GED or any of that other nonsense that many like championing. I tell those that whine and cry about the "man" to get off their lazy ass and go get something to bring to the table besides "woe-is-ME". That crap about employers that are reluctant to give ex-offenders a second chance is more BULLSHIT that only serves as talking points for the naysayers. There are some that reach out to thoses that have fallen in a crack. Look, there are those that don't want a job that doesn't fit their image of what they "think" they are qualified to do. I had a broke Mfer tell me that he wouldn't be caught dead flippin' burger's. I told that stupid SOB to get the F**k away from me. Now can we talk about the person and not those that are holding them down ...if there is such a person! | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 13589 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
The ranks of the unemployed are swelling with young black men who have been fired from jobs after they lied on their appications about not having been charged with a crime, only to have this disproven once their employer runs a security check on them. This is why concerned activists are pushing for expungement of minor offenses on a young person's record. And for a man trying to support a family, making 7 dollars an hour, flipping burgers is not a living wage. I don't think it can be denied that it is a dead-end, no-win situation for millions of black men who have no skills or credentials. You, Carey, are the exception, not the rule. | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 1781 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
Okay Okay, a living wage. The point I am trying to make is that some money beats no money ...hands down. By no means am I an exception, I think the news is more proned to display the struggling brotha in the cheese line. In regards to the brothas that got fired for lying on their application, they should have been fired ...they lied. A dead end is only a dead end if you don't look for a ladder to climb out. Case in point, just tonight a brotha much like the unskilled brothas we are talking about admitted that he was boxed in. He sold drugs and went to jail. He said he got tired of doing time but had no skills to do anything different. He said he was a good drug dealer. He said he went out every day regardless of the weather. To make a long story short, he figured out that he had the skills to sale anything. Many people do not have the charm or gift of gab to be good salesmen, he did. He doesn't have an high school education and he has a record AND he now has his own home with a wife and children. I just think many need to get in their own lane and drive slow. | ||
| Chrishayden "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Chrishayden Post Number: 7832 Registered: 03-2004 Rating: N/A |
Ahh egocentrism. I'm doing ok, how come everybody else isnt? With about a million Negroes in jail or on parole or probation, and with unemployment in some ghettoes at 20% BEFORE the economic downturn, it was a given. Carey, you live in Iowa. I have friends up there. Most of them moved up there to go to school Saw how it was and never come back even to visit. They would get too much hassle cuz they got white wives, most of 'em. It has almost always been a totally different story. My mother went to Drake University in the 40's when she couldn't have gone to the University of Missouri. Come to St. Louis sometime. Go to South Central, South and West Side of Chicago, Brooklyn, etc. You will understand. | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 1782 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
There's a message in the madness ..."the kinfolk said, Jed move away from there. they packed up the truck and moved to beverly ...hills that is. swimmin' pools, movie stars" Chris, what are you saying? There ain't brothas with fat white girls in St Louis? What ....what are you saying, there's no books and dreams on the West Side of Chicago. Lets see, the first lady is from Chicago. I don't know but 2 brothas that have white women. You must be mistaken this state for Minnisota. My momma is from Missouri so I can't hear what you are saying. Btw, when your friends went to Iowa, what did they see. I guess a better question is what were they looking for? You can't see much if your head is stuck in the sand. All the cities that you've mentioned, I've been there. So again, what are you saying. I know you are not saying that everyone that lives there is doomed to failure? That would be a foolish statement. In fact, it would be proven wrong! So what are you saying? What does location have to do with a persons drive and motivation? Please, save the po' trapped brotha speech. Education is education. Knowledge is found in every city in the USA. Ambition is the sole property of the ambitious. A jail cell does not have your home town written on the bars. You gotta come stronger than that Chris. That was as weak as an ice cream cone sitting in the middle of the street on a 90 degree day. Believe me, I understand and I see tears. It starts with a thought ...think a little deeper. "With about a million Negroes in jail or on parole or probation, and with unemployment in some ghettoes at 20% BEFORE the economic downturn, it was a given" I am missing something ...what's your point!? Man, I think you are just talking. You can't be thinking before you ...say thangs that just float in the air. Maybe you are just trying to inspire conversation. Tell me that's it. | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 13592 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
The argument that you are trying to discredit is what was implicit in the article Yvette posted at the beginning of this thread, Carey, - an article which was researched and whose conclusions are supported by the numbers. What is the point YOU are trying to make? When unemployment is at an all time high and jobs are disappearing and the nation is on the midst of economic recession, why does it escape you that black men are in dire straits and are not soley to blame for this? And the claims you are making in regard to them making excuses for the shape so many of them are in would be staunchly supported by conservatives like Rush Limbaugh. You skewed the quote of the Shakespearen character who said there was "method to his madness," and this is in keeping with how you miss the mark in your contentions. | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 1784 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
I didn't miss the mark, Cynique. You must have crossed your eyes or forgot to put on your glasses. I read Yvetteps post yet "I" asked the question of why are black men in this position. Also, if that is the problem (the economy, blah blah blah), what's the solutions. Is the solution to cry and say poor ol'me? That's the point I am making. Let me say that again. THAT'S THE POINT I AM MAKING! Shakespearin' I ain't carin' ...there's a method to this madness and some are right in the mix. | ||
| Libralind2 AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Libralind2 Post Number: 1208 Registered: 09-2004 Rating: N/A |
February 28, 2004 Nearly Half Of Black Men Found Jobless By JANNY SCOTT It is well known that the unemployment rate in New York City rose sharply during the recent recession. It is also understood that the increase was worse for men than for women, and especially bad for black men. But a new study examining trends in joblessness in the city since 2000 suggests that by 2003, nearly one of every two black men between 16 and 64 was not working. The study, by the Community Service Society, a nonprofit group that serves the poor, is based on data from the federal Bureau of Labor Statistics and focuses on the so-called employment-population ratio -- the fraction of the working-age population with a paid job -- in addition to the more familiar unemployment rate, the percentage of the labor force actively looking for work. Mark Levitan, the report's author, found that just 51.8 percent of black men ages 16 to 64 held jobs in New York City in 2003. The rate for white men was 75.7 percent; for Hispanic men, 65.7; and for black women, 57.1. The employment-population ratio for black men was the lowest for the period Mr. Levitan has studied, which goes back to 1979. ''We're left with a very big question,'' Mr. Levitan, a senior policy analyst with the society, said in an interview. ''As the economy recovers, will we see a rise in employment among black men in tandem with the rise in employment of city residents generally? In other words, is this fundamentally a cyclical problem or is it more deeply structural? I fear that it is more deeply structural.'' Researchers who have studied joblessness said Mr. Levitan's findings were consistent with trends among disadvantaged men, both black and white, in other Northern and Midwestern cities where manufacturing jobs have disappeared in recent decades. Some said factors that might have made the problem worse since 2000 could include welfare reform, high rates of incarceration producing gaps in job histories, and competition with immigrants for low-skill jobs. Lawrence M. Mead, a professor of political science at New York University who specializes in social policy and welfare reform, said that labor force participation -- job-holding and job-seeking -- among disadvantaged men had been declining nationwide and that New York City had long had ''a lower work level'' than elsewhere. Others said a similar racial gap in male employment had been seen in Midwestern and Central states. ''You're really talking about a long-term problem among low-skilled, disadvantaged men,'' Professor Mead said. ''Blacks are disproportionately disadvantaged. You're seeing this tendency to drop out. It's very serious and nobody has an answer.'' Mindy Tarlow, executive director of the Center for Employment Opportunities, an employment program for men and women with criminal records that is based in Lower Manhattan, said her agency's success rate in placing clients in unsubsidized jobs had dropped to 55 percent from 65 percent between 2000 and 2003. She attributed the change not only to the recession but also to women coming off welfare and looking for work. ''I do know there are more people in the low-skill job market competing for the same low-skill jobs,'' she said. ''In some ways, the low-skill job market has become more competitive. Welfare reform came into law in 1996, but I think the impact was starting to be felt around 2000, maybe earlier.'' David R. Howell, a labor economist and professor at New School University, said service jobs were particularly hard for black men to get. He said studies had shown that employers ''are particularly uninterested in hiring black men for jobs that require customer or client contact, for whatever reason.'' They tend to give preference to women, he said. Mr. Levitan used data from the Current Population Survey, a monthly survey done by the Bureau of Labor Statistics on a nationwide basis. He averaged the 12 monthly figures for New York City for each year. He said he used the employment-population ratio because the unemployment rate, which counts only people who are actively looking for a job, did not capture those too discouraged to keep trying. In a recession, the number of discouraged workers goes up, Mr. Levitan said. If job losses land disproportionately on one group of people, a disproportionate share of that group may give up looking for work. In that case, changes in the unemployment rate for that group will tend to understate the relative impact of the recession on that group, he said. Mr. Levitan found that the unemployment rate for black men in New York City rose by 5.3 percentage points, to 12.9 percent, in 2003. The employment-population ratio dropped by 12.2 percentage points, to 51.8, from a cycle peak of 64 in 2000. The employment-population ratio for Hispanic men dropped by 7.1 percentage points; the ratio for white men dropped by 2.1. The margin of error was 4 percent. The declines among black and Hispanic women were smaller than among black and Hispanic men. Mr. Levitan said the industries that had the biggest drop in employment -- manufacturing, finance and professional services -- were dominated by men. And the one sector that grew significantly during the recession -- education and health services, which now accounts for 18.7 percent of all jobs -- is overwhelmingly female. ''It definitely reflects that black men disproportionately have had to carry the burden of the unemployment situation in New York City,'' Lizzette Hill Barcelona, executive director of Strive New York, a work force development agency, said of Mr. Levitan's findings. ''Black men are usually the least skilled. In a tough economy, those are the jobs that you can do away with.'' Andrew A. Beveridge, a sociologist at Queens College, questioned whether the data from the Current Population Survey, which is done nationally, could reliably be used to track changes in joblessness among specific groups in New York City from one year to the next. He said it was conceivable a year-to-year change might be the result of changes in the sample of people surveyed. Mr. Levitan said the Bureau of Labor Statistics had used a methodology similar to his, using its 12 monthly surveys to create annual averages for states, metropolitan areas and cities. He said the sample size in New York City was big enough to be reliable. And he said the data from 1979 to 2003 followed a pattern consistent with the business cycle, suggesting that they accurately reflected reality. Professor Howell, who had seen the study, said: ''The magnitude of the employment-rate collapse is so large for black males that it looks like a data problem. But I don't think it is. Because you see not as startling a drop, but still a very large drop, for Hispanic males as well. It's well known that black men are at the end of the hiring queue. So it's perfectly plausible that they took the biggest hit.'' Photo: Unemployed men taking a job-training class at Strive New York, a work force development agency. In a difficult economy, less-skilled jobs are among those most at risk. (Photo by Chang W. Lee/The New York Times)(pg. B4) | ||
| Libralind2 AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Libralind2 Post Number: 1209 Registered: 09-2004 Rating: N/A |
COPYRIGHT 2002 The American Prospect, Inc. ALTHOUGH THE LAST decade has brought unprecedented prosperity to many Americans, the picture has been decidedly mixed for young black men. Their crime rates have dropped, and their school enrollments have increased, but things are not going so well for young black workers. During the strongest economic expansion since World War II, while the overall unemployment rate fell from 7.5 percent to 4.0 percent, their employment situation improved only mildly (even as the proportion working or looking for work actually dropped). As the chart on page A37 shows, employment figures for all racial groups tend to rise and fall with the general state of the economy. However, while the white line is relatively flat and the Hispanic line rises, the black line trends downward. By 2000 young black men were 23 to 25 points below the other two groups. The picture is quite different for women. Young, less-educated black women lagged behind both whites and Hispanics during the 1980s, but they overtook Hispanics as the employment of all three groups rose in the 1990s due to welfare reform and other changes. The black rate went from 37.1 percent in 1991-1992 to 52 percent in 1999-2000. Young, less-educated black women now work at the same rate as their male equivalents, even though many are single mothers looking after young children. The declining male employment cannot be explained by demographic changes. Indeed, both the average age and the educational level of these young men rose during this period, which should have increased their employment rate. Part of the problem may have been the large increase in female employment, particularly among African Americans (the female share of urban employment increased from 41.8 percent in 1979 to 46.5 percent in 1999-2000). We don't know whether this effect worked primarily on the demand side (young black women taking jobs away from young black men) or on the supply side (young black men feeling less pressure to work because more young black women were working), but either way the effect was likely negative. A strong economy still makes a big difference, of course. But in the 1990s, the benefits of economic growth were offset by the long-term downward trend in employment. In other words, if the economy hadn't been as strong as it was, things would have been a lot worse. Why were young black men hit so hard? One factor was the decline in manufacturing jobs. In metropolitan areas, where most young black men reside, blue-collar jobs as a percentage of all jobs dropped from 34.3 percent to 24.6 percent. Not all areas, however were equally affected. The nonemployment of young black males is much more serious in old industrial cities such as Buffalo, Chicago, Pittsburgh, and St. Louis, than it is in new-economy cities such as Atlanta, Denver, and Tampa. Another complex factor is crime and incarceration. The crime rate has declined over the last decade, which would lead us to expect increasing employment for young black males. Incarceration has continued to rise, but to the extent that this removes young men with poor employment prospects from society, it should increase the officially measured employment rate. On the other hand, once these young men leave incarceration, they re-enter society with very poor employment prospects. And it may be that the high level of black crime has made employers reluctant to hire less-educated black males of any age. Yet another suspect is the set of child-support reforms enacted over the past two decades. While these changes have increased the financial contributions of absent parents to their families, they may discourage work among low-income young men, particularly those burdened by large support requirements. Indeed, while our society now heavily subsidizes the earnings of low-income parents through the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) and other provisions benefiting the working poor, we impose heavy taxes on the earnings of low-income fathers who do not have custody of their children. WHATEVER THE PRECISE MIX OF causes, we have a severe problem that cries out for remedy. President Bush's welfare-reauthorization proposal focuses on increasing marriage and raising work requirements for women, while Democrats want to strengthen child care and expand education and training. Whatever one's view on the relative merits of these approaches, we think equal attention should be paid to the plight of low-income men. We're not going to get far in increasing marriage rates or strengthening families as long as halt of young, out-of-school black men are out of work. What's needed is a major employment initiative directed at young men, particularly minority men. It would include work-oriented programs that integrate academic and occupational-skills development, as well as targeted training linked to local employers. This would be supplemented by community-service jobs, which emphasize skill acquisition and certification. Such a program is particularly needed for the 600,000 individuals who are released from prison each year and return to low-income communities. We need changes in our child-support system so that more of the money paid by noncustodial parents goes to mothers and children instead of into state coffers, and so that fathers who are laid off or incarcerated are afforded some relief. And young, unskilled men and women who are not custodial parents should receive an expanded EITC to encourage greater attachment to the workforce. (The EITC is a major reason for the large increase in work among poor single mothers with children in the past decade.) None of these proposals is going to win anyone a lot of votes, but the argument for them is compelling. Many low-income mothers are getting their acts together, finding jobs, and leaving the welfare rolls. And they are doing all of this with little help from the fathers, who increasingly are left behind. It is time we focus on the men as well as the women. Two million individuals are currently behind bars, and two-thirds of African-American children are growing up with a single parent. We cannot do anything about either of these problems unless we reach the men. That's the next big challenge for social policy in this country. [GRAPHIC OMITTED] PAUL OFFNER and HARRY HOLZER are at the Georgetown Public Policy Institute at Georgetown University. | ||
| Libralind2 AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Libralind2 Post Number: 1210 Registered: 09-2004 Rating: N/A |
Umm Carey..?? gosityourazzdownsomewhere Stats and FACTS are against your moot point LiLi | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 1788 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
You're crazy Li-Li, crazy as a loon. What statistic are you talking about??? Who said there wasn't a problem ...I sure didn't. Post some more stats but what stats are missing. That's the point I've alway been making. Did you happen to notice the STATISTICS that pointed to the fact that once welfare reform was created, mothers (that sat on their funky-fat-lazy-asses) got off their funky couch and went to work. There's a nice rolling stone. Her children has a mentor right there at home. Monkey see, monkey do! See, the game is FK'd up. Have you heard of the word "Trick"? Well, back in the day it was a word used to discribe men that were tricked out of their money while they thought they were going to get some poomtang. All they were left with were holes in their pockets and bruises to their egos. Then the game flipped, the rabbits got the gun. Drugs and social indifference turned the tricksters into the tricks. Five dollar blow-jobs and 2 dollar hoes is the new game in town. Let me say this one-mo-gin, I didn't say there wasn't a problem but you negros that keep carrying the mans banner make me want to puke. The recession didn't cause the mf'in problem. It's shined a light on a bigger problem so get out of that hole and look around. You are being played like a jap sucker. Ni**as was going to jail long before the newspapers decided to hook the problem on the recession. Let me say this again ...WHO said there wasn't a problem, I sure didn't. Post another flag crying about the po' black man and the recession and then point to a solution to the real problems. You and negros like you are the real problem. The jails ain't the problem, they are SOLUTIONS to a bigger problem. Unemployment ain't the problem, that's the payoff. You're a bigger fool than chicken little, Li-Li. gosityoazzdownsomewhere *lol*. Please, spare me any more numbers! Take that weak ass shit out of here. You say moot, I say what a hoot. | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 1789 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
......"The trend is intimately tied to education, the report’s authors say. Black women – who are twice as likely as black men to go to college – have faced no net job losses. By contrast, black men are disproportionately employed in those blue-collar jobs that have been most highly affected – think third shifts at rural manufacturing plants" WHY WHY WHY! ......."Moreover, it puts renewed focus on the cultural and economic stereotypes of black women and men – mythologies and realities about the black family that remain challenging for the country, and Washington, to address" Do I dare say WHO is buying into these stereotypes!? | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 1790 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
Afroerotik wrote: "I challenge you to stop thinking of yourself as better just because you go to church every Sunday, dressed in your overpriced fineries to show off to the congregation, when you step over the homeless on Monday without so much as an ounce of compassion or love in your heart for those who need a helping hand. {{We must stop trying to get over on the system, trying to figure out the easy way to get something for nothing, and rather make the choice to have integrity, to do what’s right for the community, not just yourself}}. It’s time now to consider the ramifications and consequences of our actions and stop living for the moment or the almighty dollar. If we consider the feelings of others, if everyone considers the feelings of others, we can transform ourselves from a selfish, insensitive, immature community to a compassionate, giving, enlightened family. Find a reason to see the good in someone, to reach out to another because you connect on a deeper level, not just because you think they have something to offer you, or because you want to feel insecure and petty jealousy" | ||
| Libralind2 AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Libralind2 Post Number: 1211 Registered: 09-2004 Rating: N/A |
Carey...?? You aint said shyet LiLi | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 1791 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
Tough titty but somebody gotta suck it ...Li-Li. Now ...I finally saw slumdog. What's your opinion of the movie? I'll start, I didn't think it should have won the Oscar for best picture. I do think this was a weak year for movies. I wouldn't rank it in the top 25 of Oscar winners. In fact, I would put several runner-ups in front of it. | ||
| Yvettep AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Yvettep Post Number: 3478 Registered: 01-2005 Rating: N/A |
This is a complex situation, of course. I think it is obvious that an economic downturn is going to impact those who were already at the economic bottom even more. Child support laws, manufacturing jobs moving out of the country, criminal records, functional illiteracy, lack of high school and college diplomas...all of these are factors. Also, things like credit rating. For example, around here the casinos recently had a job fair. (Apparently, their business is still booming.) Guess what kind of credit rating the applicants had to have? And that is increasingly the case with any job where employees must deal directly with money. We'll see even more side effects. Raise in suicides, for example, as hope and access to psychological services dry up. Spread of communicable diseases as folks put off health care or cannot access it. Increase in crime as folks find other means to make a dollar. And on and on. And again, those who were already on the margins are the most vulnerable. | ||
| Chrishayden "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Chrishayden Post Number: 7841 Registered: 03-2004 Rating: N/A |
Chris, what are you saying? There ain't brothas with fat white girls in St Louis? (There are but their lives are a living hell) am missing something ...what's your point!? (The point is obviously on the top of your head. Young negroes, when you wonder why you're in the shape you're in, just read his posts. Here is a Negro, old as or older than I am, who is living in Iowa probably cuz he left Mississippi right ahead of a lynch mob (which, by the way, is how my Great Grandfather, Louis Becoat, got to Illinois), who knows damn well that in most of the country he couldn't even use the same TOILET as a white man until about 40 years ago and it took the U.S. Supreme Court, the Justice Department and the Army to let him do that, wondering how we got in the shape we in. White folks, I apologize. I thought you were wrong. Obviously some Negroes are too crazy to risk being around. | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 1793 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
If I were in the same room with you Chris, I'd go take a leak cuz you ain't talkin' about nothing. Btw, I was raised in Illinois. That's right, you must have flunked geography because Misery, Illinois, and Iowa are ALL bordering states. That's right, I am 2 hours away from Chicago and you could probably run to Iowa faster than I could drive there. That's right, Iowa is right across your border. So please, you can fool some of the people, some of the time. Now, again, ONE MORE TIME ...who said anything about Jim Crow? Who said racism wasn't a factor in the plight of the black man? Maybe you should read Yevetteps last post and come back and talk like you got some damn sense. You said that you are old but damn man, you don't have to dry up and forget to use your brain. Okay, if you just want to cloud the issue with mess, let's talk about the Middle Passage? See what am talking about? "wondering how we got in the shape we in" Naw Chris, I ain't wondering how we got in the shape we are in and I ain't crying about. Pick up your lip and stop poutin'. "Many people fear nothing more terrible than to take a position that stands out sharply and clearly from the prevailing opinion. The tendency of most is to adopt a few that is so ambiguous that it includes everything and so popular that it include everybody -- Martin Luther King, Jr. Chris, you don't have to say it right, you should simply say what's right. | ||
| Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption Post Number: 3583 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: N/A |
"The trend is intimately tied to education, the report’s authors say. Black women – who are twice as likely as black men to go to college – have faced no net job losses. By contrast, black men are disproportionately employed in those blue-collar jobs that have been most highly affected – think third shifts at rural manufacturing plants." And there ya have it! Too much time emulating rappers and thugs has taken it's toll on a extremely disturbing number of young black men. Every time I get the opportunity, I tell young brothers I meet in the military and civilian alike -the criticality of acquiring technical certifications and academic accomplishments! When I go back to Ohio, I see the depressing number of young black males caught up in the vicious cancer of the sagging-hoody-thug wannabe-rapper-nihilistic-extra dumb-ass world. The at situation in Oakland last week is a perfect example. It's your life and your responsibility. Too many Negroes have contracted the self destructive virus of victimization and entitlement. It's leading to their collective demise. It's documented every single day...... | ||
| Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption Post Number: 3584 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: N/A |
"Young negroes, when you wonder why you're in the shape you're in, just read his posts. Here is a Negro, old as or older than I am, who is living in Iowa probably cuz he left "Mississippi right ahead of a lynch mob (which, by the way, is how my Great Grandfather, Louis Becoat, got to Illinois), who knows damn well that in most of the country he couldn't even use the same TOILET as a white man until about 40 years ago and it took the U.S. Supreme Court, the Justice Department and the Army to let him do that, wondering how we got in the shape we in. White folks, I apologize. I thought you were wrong. Obviously some Negroes are too crazy to risk being around."  ............!!!!!!!!!! | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 1796 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
I have to give it to Chris, that shyt WAS funny. That's why I like him so much. He ain't afraid of a good fight and he has a little game. He can be a hand full. I need help with him sometimes. Who was that who talked about his early morning romps? | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 1797 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
NTSF, I don't know if you were laughing at me or laughing with me (I ain't made of glass) but I am sure glad you showed up. When you posted a piece of Yevetteps post I knew the army had arrived. | ||
| Chrishayden "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Chrishayden Post Number: 7844 Registered: 03-2004 Rating: N/A |
Carey: Don't let nobody tell you you still ain't got it. Folks, a brother got to have some real Mojo working to get me so upset I'm on here using precious web time to try to handle my bees wax! Keep a goin' Carey! They can't stop you. You too strong. That's why they call you DA GODFATHA.! | ||
| Chrishayden "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Chrishayden Post Number: 7845 Registered: 03-2004 Rating: N/A |
"The trend is intimately tied to education, the report’s authors say. Black women – who are twice as likely as black men to go to college – have faced no net job losses (I'll tell that to all the black broads I see working at McDonald's and emptying bedpans, and driving the bus and frying up chicken and shaking their naked asses over in the strip joints across the river since that is mosly who is doing that round here. MY SISTAHS! Wrasslin' with old and crazy people and moppin floors and dealing with drunken customers and doin nails and walkin them streets. That's whose mostly doin that round my way. There are a bunch more young brothers out on the mail ho stroll. I think some of them wear droopy pants, too. | ||
| Chrishayden "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Chrishayden Post Number: 7846 Registered: 03-2004 Rating: N/A |
I tell you this I know white folks ain't God, but they sure knew what they were doing when they decided to make us the fall guy. They got the economy screwed up and are about to get run out of Afghanistan, but they got tricking Negroes down to a SCIENCE! | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 1801 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
*LMAO* @ "They got the economy screwed up and are about to get run out of Afghanistan, but they got tricking Negroes down to a SCIENCE!" Trickin' Negroes 101 Still trickin' Negroes. PHD in Zoology |
