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Nubianem
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Username: Nubianem
Post Number: 1
Registered: 11-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 05, 2005 - 04:07 pm: | 
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For many years in America, Black America had gone to sleep in a deep, dangerous and genocidal sleep that saw Black youth contributing to the behavior and media-produced filth that brought about more hatred and disgust for Blacks, even if much of the trash we see concerning Black behavior is done by a very tiny less than one percent.
Yet, we were warned by conscious writers ( see http://community.webtv.net/pabarton
http://community.webtv.net/nubianem ) who warned Black America, particularly when the movie, THE COLOR PURPLE and other anti-Black movies used to demonize Black people began to appear on television, movies and books.
Black America failed to realize after the Civil Rights struggle that anti-Black politics, EuroSupremacy and racism is as deep in the psychi and consciousness of people who are non-Black and some lost Blacks, as is apple pie and chocolate.
Hence, the Black bourgoise were shocked when they saw the genocide that almost occurred in New Orleans with almost genocide of over 50,000 Black Americans in a single week almost occurred under cover of Hurricane Katrina. Yet, a cultural genocide DID HAPPEN IN NEW ORLEANS, LOUISIANA AS OVER 200,000 BLACK NEW ORLEANIANS HAVE LOST THEIR HOMES AND FOREIGN PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO WORK AND ENTER AREAS WHERE SOME BLACK HOMES WERE DESTROYED BY THE FLOOD, YET THE LAND STILL BELONGS TO BLACKS AND THE SO-CALLED 'MOLD' CAN STILL BE CLEANED. This is nothing but genocide and yet, we still continue to publish and promote trashy books, sing trashy rap and hip-hop, behave in a trashy manner as if nothing happened.
Hence, the new conscious and uplifting writers who were pushed on the backburner are now arising because the conscious element of Black America and the rest of the Black world have demanded that our media (THOSE OWNED BY US) stop selling out for a few pieces of silver and stop selling us back into slavery.
Books such as "Susu Economics," and 'A History of the African-Olmecs," are now world famous and of great importance, particularly when after reading "A History of the African-Olmecs," pub by www.AuthorHouse.com (http://community.webtv.net/nubianem ) one sees that Blacks in New Orleans and from Georgia to Texas have lived in the area for thousands of years, were part of the ancient Manding-Kushi group who migrated from the Sahara/West Africa thousands of years before Christ and build the early mounds in the Louisiana/Mississippi Valley region. Therefore, those who were driven out of Louisiana are being driven off lands that were owned by Blacks before the 'Louisiana Purchase," or before the arrival of the Europeans in 1492 (see also "Susu Economics,").
Another aspect of this rise in consciousness is the fact that no longer will Black radio listeners sit aside and allow trash to be talked about Black people on cable tv or over the radio. Hip-hop conscious radio such as www.kpfa.org and www.daveyd.com or Black talk networks like www.joemadison.com www.xmradio.com POWER 169, (AM 1450 WOL Washington, DC), ALL HAVE CONTRIBUTED POSITIVELY TO THE NEW AWAKENING OF BLACK AMERICA. Books such as "Susu Economics," pub by www.AuthorHouse.com 'A History of Education Book II," www.Xlibris.com and "Americans and their Idols," www.infinitypublishing.com also at info@buybooksontheweb.com "Rap, Rhyme and Rhythm," pub. by AuthorHouse.com all have helped to build a strong and positive consciousness among the African-American people and the Pan-African people globally.
Finally, we are in a new era and Black writers, singers, songwriters, poets, lyricists, educators and others will have to realize that we must produce positive works that uplift people. Let Black people with money invest in Black media for Black folks. As much as it may be ok for a Black millionaire to create a cable tv network for white women, there are hundreds of white-oriented cable tv stations in the US MANY WHO PRESENT DEGRADING IMAGES OF BLACKS. What we need is Black people who help to uplift the family first, just as all other groups do...they uplift their own people first.
Let us hope we Black writers who are positive and conscious get agents to present our books for publication and get our works on the market like those of us who contribute negative product that contributes to more people believing that we are not worthy of rescue in a disaster like Hurricane Katrina, or that houses and land that we worked to purchase for years, that we have to be chased from our property and foreign elements are allowed to live in our neighborhoods and take jobs in New Orleans and the Nineth Ward that residents should have.
Nubianem
http://community.webtv.net/nubianem
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Kola_boof
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Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 830
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 05, 2005 - 04:17 pm: |
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Hi, Nubianem. Good to see you, but...
I'm not the least bit convinced this is happening.
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Kola_boof
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Post Number: 831
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 05, 2005 - 04:21 pm: |
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And another thing.
The majority of Blacks in French Louisiana who became part of the "Creoles".....were Bambara Africans from West Africa.
They were not indigenous African-Indians.
Many of us who are from Africa can recognize our own tribes, not just facially and bone wise, but culturally.
And the Bambara people of West Africa are the core foundation of the Louisiana Blacks.
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Blaklioness
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Post Number: 82
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 05, 2005 - 04:46 pm: |
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Nubianem:
Is the land being stolen that that the Washitaw people had to reclaim in court?
I actually have the book on African Olmecs as well as the one written by Radine Amen-Ra (?); they're both excellent resources. |
Blaklioness
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Post Number: 83
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 05, 2005 - 04:53 pm: |
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Kola,
I think that the Black Indigenous reference goes back further than slavery. I've been trying to piece it together myself, but according to the sources I referenced above, the people we currently misidentify as Native Americans are not the original people of this land. They're supposedly a mix of invaders from Asia (?) and the original sell-outs---the Moors. This particular history goes way back past slavery, but even the authors recognize at some point that Mother Afrika is still the origin. The reading is interesting.
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Kola_boof
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Post Number: 832
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 05, 2005 - 05:26 pm: |
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Blaklioness, I know EXACTLY what he's saying.
And the Native Americans were NOT A PART of the creation of the "Creoles".
French, Portuguese and (mostly) Bambara/Hausa Africans were.
Nor do the photos of Louisiana Indian stocks circa 1500's or 1600's look black to me.
Nor has any of the culture of those Indians been African, but is distinctly related to the RED INDIAN cultures.
Perhaps the darker ones with Afro hair and negroid features weren't photographed?
The fact still remains that I'm very skeptical about these MASS MILLIONS of African Indians that supposedly existed now....IN PLACE of the Red Indian.
One thing I've noticed about American Afrocentrists is that many of them are insecure (and I AM NOT speaking of Nubianem)...I'm talking about the Afrocentrics who make up all manner of RACE PRIDE theologies and stories, usually with the Great Noble BLACK person as some morally superior being who did this, did that
...came from the moon and planted corn before the white man, etc.
People who were born Alice Rose but renamed themselves AmenRah (why would you take an Egyptian moniker instead of a West African one?)
That right there...is a MAJOR red light.
I'm very suspicious about Afrocentrics who want to ERASE the word "negro" (you erase proud negroes like Zora Hurston and Marcus Garvey) when you erase that word.....and then want to claim that they're not from Africa, but instead from indigenous blacks already in the Western Hemisphere. If this was Brazil or Central America, I might be more inclined to buy....but I detect a sense of SELF-HATRED in these new theories.
Especially when the authors of these books are Black Americans who gave themselves Egyptian names instead of West African ones and are basically claiming.....we're not from Africa.
Can you imagine what your Ancestors at the bottom of the Atlantic ocean feel?
And do you know how serious it is to be cursed by your own ancestors?
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Blaklioness
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Post Number: 86
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 05, 2005 - 06:23 pm: |
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Kola,
Again, I haven't gotten from A to B myself because I'm still gathering information (including the inconsistencies) at this point so I won't dismiss anything....yet. Excuse my ignorance of the timelines, however, think more ANCIENTLY for a minute---but not so ancient that Afrikans hadn't already wandered around the world. The 1500 and 1600s would already be late given what we're talking about. However imperfect African people may have been/may be, nonblacks still have a key role in tampering with our history. Honestly, I can't confirm or deny the information at this point given what I know, but if we presume that Africans had already made it here BEFORE the Maafa, then we could conceivably be talking about two groups of Blacks who encountered each other----the ones who were transferred as slaves and the ones who were here as indigenous people. When I read Radine Amen-Ra's book, I didn't get all the answers by any means, but I wasn't left with the impression that the mixed, "red" Indians and the real, indigenous "Black" Indians were one and the same. She mentioned the indigenous connection with the Moors from the East/North African region and specifically indicated that the reason for the appearance of the red Indians was because of the Moorish males' sexual treason with European women. It's been a while since I read it, but she relayed that the indigenous Black society here was matriarchal and was switched to patriarchy so that the mixed children of European women could steal the land for their mothers' people---land that was onced passed only through the Black woman to her own children---and steal the identity of the original Blacks here. So, even though she makes a distinction between the Black Indians (not mixed) and the Black Africans brought here as slaves, she does still mention that there was an African origin of the indigenous population here by way of East/North African Moors. I don't know...it's hell accumulating all these puzzle pieces and not knowing quite where to put them. |
Kola_boof
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Post Number: 837
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 05, 2005 - 06:45 pm: |
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The same Africans who traveled to and settled Australia and Thailand....are the ones who went to South and North America during ancient times
...that's MUCH discussed in Africa itself
..but they were not MOORS.
They were pure Black African men and women from the East and South regions of Africa, and a few from West Africa.
The Arab slave trade of 700 is what put a stop to them.
And the Red Indians (for instance the Arowak) did not come from Black men and White women.
The Peki Ewe tribe was a biracial tribe of blue-eyed Africans, created when Black Kings on the Gold Coast gave White Explorers their own village and several thousand "African wives"....thus creating the Peki Ewe. But they didn't look anything like INDIANS...and once they were forced into slavery, they lost their mixture and converted back to PURE BLACK through slave parity.
A black and a white don't make an Indian.
But a black and a Red ASIAN...will make an Indian.
In other words, the Mongolians and other Red Asians who walked from Siberia to Alaska when the ancient bridge existed.
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Kola_boof
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Post Number: 838
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 05, 2005 - 06:47 pm: |
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That's more plausible to me.
But like I said...just her NAME makes her theories suspicious to me.
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Blaklioness
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Post Number: 88
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 05, 2005 - 06:50 pm: |
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Ok...like I said, it's been a while since I read the book. Even then, I had questions...you learn something "new" everyday. |
Blaklioness
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Post Number: 89
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 05, 2005 - 06:53 pm: |
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Her name would be suspicious if she hadn't made some kind of Moorish East/North African connection....shit...I gotta find that book and read it again. |
Blaklioness
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Post Number: 90
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 05, 2005 - 07:20 pm: |
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Kola,
How did the Aboriginal/Black peoples of Australia and India wind up with straight hair? Is this how they left Africa? |
Kola_boof
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Post Number: 842
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 05, 2005 - 07:31 pm: |
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People's bodies adapt to their Environment Needs after thousands of years.
Did you ever see the Discovery Channel doc. "The Real Eve"?
They explained that quite well.
How the Africans who journeyed into ASIA were suddenly in a different climate and were eating a totally different diet.
Over thousands of years...they mutated into SHORTER people who no longer needed as much protection from the SUN...but in fact, had to deal with more variety of weather, etc.
In INDIA, things are quite more complicated---as they actually have an Anti-black caste system and the Dravidians mixed with several groups. Their charcoal Goddess KALI is feared by all (not revered in INDIA) and is considered a domineering, ugly, selfish evil goddess who was "abandoned" by her children.
Black Americans revere her and ignore the actual story of KALI, which is very negative--but it reflects the Indian people's dislike for dark skin.
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Kola_boof
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Post Number: 843
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 05, 2005 - 07:33 pm: |
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Without protection from the African SUN, your brain can cook you know.
It's not like that anywhere else on earth.
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Blkamericanking
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Post Number: 96
Registered: 08-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 05, 2005 - 09:06 pm: |
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From my understanding, the Red Indian is a mixture of the Olmecs and Chinese. The Chinese then mixed with the Red Indian and produced the Eskimo. It's like a pure group of people mingled with a mixed group and produced a whole new people. There were different types of mixing.
Lousiana belongs to the Washitaw Nation(Black Indians). The Black Indians owned a lot of the land in the south. |
Libralind2
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Post Number: 258
Registered: 09-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2005 - 09:44 am: |
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Nubianem writes: THE COLOR PURPLE and other anti-Black movies used to demonize Black people began to appear on television, movies and books.
LiLi writes..Why do folks keep saying this about The Color Purple..? I KNOW men like Mister in that movie. Alice Walker didnt "demoinze him" HE is very REAL ALIVE AND WELL in our community. Sadly, if your using this book as your premise for the rest of your article..I miss your point. There are some books out there you could have used "The Color Purple" aint it..for ME. |
Kola_boof
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Post Number: 846
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2005 - 02:24 pm: |
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I totally agree Lili.
But this just goes to show you how OUT OF TOUCH most supposedly "Afrocentric" Black males are with black women.
They don't even care about our experiences and our pain.
Everything is to revolve around "their revolution"----and once they get a victory, they run off to share the spoils with the White woman and any and everything BUT a black women.
THE COLOR PURPLE was for "us".
In Africa, because so many African men BANNED the film----African women had to travel through whole countries on hot buses just to see it.
But see it they did.
It's a disgrace against our black mother and a tragedy that black men are so infinitely SELFISH and BLIND to their hatred of us.
THE COLOR PURPLE...if anything...gives me hope that we can give birth to a new son.
I think that film affirmed a lot of black women and set them on the path of recovery. And I also loved the film "BELOVED", although it was a big flop. But it was excellent.
And compared to the films that Black males are making--we need more COLOR PURPLES.
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Blaklioness
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Post Number: 91
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2005 - 04:59 pm: |
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That's the justice that Black women are facing for NOT holding their sons accountable to us. In the future, it is VERY likely that that selfishness will magnify intensely as Black women REFUSE to stop supporting the behavior.
Kola, Blkamericanking:
I really don't care what mixture brought about the red "Indians" at this point. What I do care about is the possibility that yet another Black identity is being stolen. Although I don't support the authors' implication of disconnectedness between Africa and the indigenous Blacks of the Americas, I do feel that the possibility that Black lands and legacies are being stolen by impostors should be thoroughly investigated. |
Libralind2
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Post Number: 262
Registered: 09-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2005 - 05:55 pm: |
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Kola writes:Did you ever see the Discovery Channel doc. "The Real Eve"?
They explained that quite well.
LiLi: Yes I saw it !That was great.. |
Afroamerican
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Post Number: 98
Registered: 08-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 12:22 pm: |
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I know this is late, however in the movie Feast of All Saints. Creole history (the beginning of it) was portrayed as being the orgins of the Hiatian Mulatto elite fleeing into another French/spanish safe haven in New ORLEANS.
Their base was supposely not "Black" nor "African" at all but Mixed race. |
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