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Kola_boof
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Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 04:34 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I am not Authentic Black.

All African people must come from a tribe. Even in the big cities or immigrants---they all are part of a tribe.

I am NOT Authentic, because with an Egyptian father, I have no tribe on his side----only BLACK Egyptians have tribes (Kushaf being a major one).

On his side, I am Sunni (Muslim) Egypto (Turkish-Egyptian), meaning a low grade Arab.

High grade Arabs are from Middle Eastern, Arabia. The un-mixed REAL Arabs.

Now get this....

All Africans must have a "tribal name"--which comes from the MOTHER.

But when my father purchased my mother's marriage dowry (she was 14)-----because he was WHITE and Arab......the tribal chief (my grandfather) removed her last name----allowing her to marry as "Jiddi", but not as "Gisis" (her father was the CHIEF of her clan).

Without a last name to pass on to me--I was left "illegitimate".

And my mother's tribe (which is a RACE, rather than a tribe)---the Oromo---have rejected me because I don't look like them and I am "corrupted" by Black Americans and LOOK Black American.

So, I don't have a country (I am banned from ever setting foot in Sudan)...because of Latasha Harlins being murdered and the Korean grocer set free, I will never accept America as my country.

My father's people, The Kolbookeks are disgraced by me (as a child, my color----as an adult, my outlandish activism and infamy) and put me up for adoption in the first place.

All I have is my Black American family who love me and are the only kin I have.

So I am hardly "Authentic".

But I am also chosen, by God and circumstance, to share the best way and as truthfully as I know how.

I see a major WAR about to start amongst Black people.

Sort of like what happened in HATI when the Dark blacks massacred the Creoles to take control of their society....but on a much grander scale.

I see and hear it...in the secret gatherings of dark skinned black women.

Our true mother who has been excluded.

And I see the majority of light skinned people BLIND and UNAWARE that all this is brewing....as they greedily continue to HOG UP all the representation and all the benefits of White Supremacy and claim that they are just as black as the people on the bottom.

They are a NEW creation. They are not just as black as Authentic Black people.

And they have neither honored or redeemed the BLACKS that they came from...in any way.

Which is why they are so loathed.

But they just won't listen.


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Kola_boof
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Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 04:39 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I hope people really read this to understand.

My Black American family is comprised of Southerners---and when I first arrived, I fully thought they were West Africans.

There are many West Africans in Sudan, and the Black American people of WASHINGTON, D.C.---even the Yellow ones----look West African to me.

My family comes from North Carolina, Tennessee, Alabama, Kentucky, Georgia.

It is very complicated, but by moving around the planet all my life...amongst different blacks....

I began to see how it is that the Whites DOMINATE and RULE us.

They do it by keeping our blood bastardized and by keeping us scattered and disconnected.

Look at how the Black American community has now been demolished. You don't even know each other anymore.

But think of how close you were, how ONE you were in the 1960's and 1970's.

By bringing in BLOOD MIXTURE and having mothers who are not black.....you lose "acculturation".

Which breaks down your ability to relate to one another.

You lose UNITY.

You're too mixed and it's destroying you.

Notice that Whites won't accept WHITE unless it's PURE white.

And they rule.




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Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 04:42 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If you were born from the so call "black bloodberry" than you are "authenic".

(Also, how can your mother's tribe reject you based on LOOKING Black American? I thought most Sudanese were poor and did not have access to the media, tv, computers etc? So how on earth would they have an idea about HOW Black Americans look- or anything about them in general?)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 04:47 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I loved that 2nd post by the way!

Even though I think most of Black America's problems come from Hip Hop culture which calls for nothing but materialism and consumption. It also calls for "getting over" (even your own people) at all cost!

If we could manage to rid ourselves of Rap, or at least the negative/unproductive part of it I think that would be the hardest part of the fight!
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Kola_boof
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Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 04:52 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

(#1) The OROMO are not Sudanese. They live in Ethiopia, Kenya and Somalia, where my mother was from.

(#2) Africa...is crawling with Black Americans.

(#3) And I am famous, AA---Sudans' top writer and the highest ranking woman in the SPLA. The South Sudanese, of whom I am no blood relation, call me "Queen Kola". Africans TALK TO EACH OTHER and gossip and pass information.

(#4) The ones who rule the OROMO tribe have come to this very board and trashed me and rejected me.


I've had abortion.
Slept with white men.
I write books.
I am the highest ranking woman in the SPLA.
I challenge men and talk back to men in public.
I dress in American clothing.
I was RAISED BY Black Americans--not just in the same city, but in the same HOUSE, by them. So whatever I do bad...gets blamed on them.
I am aggressive and willful.

This is not African female behavior.


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Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 04:58 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

All who have "brown, black or Yam skin" and "nappy hair" with African features...are from the BLOODBERRY.

Technically, that is what makes you black.

But you must have "ALL" the assigners. Not just one or two.

STILL, that doesn't make you "Authentic".

__________________



You know what's funny.

I get email from Japanese and Koreans telling me they know EXACTLY what I'm trying to explain.

They come from the same "Feudal" Kingdoms.

Their "Standard" for authenticity is very much the same as Africa's.




As I stated earlier, to have it broken to you...who is Black and who is African....

and you don't trust the word of an African female

then read Chinweizu, Chinua Achebe, Wole Soyinka.

These are Award Winning Scholars.



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Blaklioness
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Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 05:02 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ok Kola...I may be crossing a line here, but I'm going to do it anyway because I have such tremendous respect for you. You ARE authentic. Your mother was a 14 year old child when your Black African grandfather SOLD her to your father. He could just have easily arranged for her to be married to a man from his own tribe, but he CHOSE not to. That is NOT your fault, and it wasn't your mother's fault. I can only presume that since she didn't talk much, you didn't have much understanding about how she felt about what happened. The people from your tribe technically have no right to reject you for social policies it had already apparently condoned. Authenticity is only partly about genetics; there MUST be a mindset to accompany it. I hope you can come to internalize that...you are NOT alone...
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Tonya
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Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 05:11 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yam skin is not lightskin, is it? If not, are you saying there are no authentic lightskinned people according to the African culture you just posted?
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Kola_boof
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Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 05:24 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks, BlakLioness

...but AFRICAN people are "heartless".

They are just like Europeans---which is another thing I've being trying to get AAs to understand.

Black People are not "Morally SUperior" to whites.

We are just a different race. And my battle is for our race to return to its own autonomy, glory and healthiness. But I fully acknowledge that all men are the devil, and all men are God.

So those people who sold my mother...could care less about her "bastard" offspring.

Just as my Egyptian family felt the same way. "Don't bring that black bastard in this house!"





Tonya,

Yam is considered "lightskin" to Africans.

But to your people, it would not be necessarily light.

Redd Foxx and Toni Morrison are the best I can do to describe YAM black people....features wise.

But Yam People are usually a lot darker than that, but not really brown.

Their color is like pumpkin or red clay or dark honey brown.

They have very ROUGH complexions. And their populations are very small.

They live in the SOUTH towards the South Pole where it's colder (South Africa has the largest number of them).

And of course---South Africa was greatly explored by Dutch, Portuguese and other bands of White men and PIRATES during the 1400's, which is probably what happened.

But they are not as Deep Black as West Africans.





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Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 05:33 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola,

It's not so much about me believing in the flawlessness of African people; in my opinion, it's what made us vulnerable to outside exploitation in the first place. However, what happened in your particular case was extremely cruel...it's like deliberately setting someone up. Your grandfather and the other adults in the community had a responsibility to protect your mother....they didn't. That's inexcusable. If I didn't already know your values on the issues, I would say you were authentic by default! Hang on in there, girl!
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Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 06:16 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks, Blaklioness.

I love you for being so multi-faceted and open.


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Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 09:04 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola,

Here's a link that was sent to me. It provides some information about Oromo women and culture you may find helpful...

http://www.africa.kyoto-u.ac.jp/kiroku/asm_normal/abstracts/pdf/25-3/25-3-1.pdf
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Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 11:01 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Blaklioness

I already know all there is to know about Oromos and their culture.

Thanks.

The link doesn't begin to scratch the surface.






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Posted on Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 08:25 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This whole disscusion is Knowlege worth preserving. Put it in the archives! :-)
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Kola_boof
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Posted on Friday, November 04, 2005 - 04:40 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Blaklioness,

I didn't want to come out and say it

...but I don't like my mother's people.

Which is why I didn't want to read about them.

It's just too painful for me.




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Posted on Friday, November 04, 2005 - 05:19 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola,

It's ok. I thought you mentioned earlier that you didn't know a great deal about them. Because you were separated from them so early, I misinterpreted that and thought you may WANT to know something about them. I have to apologize because I genuinely did not mean to stir up a sensitive issue...please be aware of that. I didn't mean any harm. By trade I'm a teacher, so I'm always trying to school people...it's a sickness. ;)
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Posted on Friday, November 04, 2005 - 05:53 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Blaklioness, it's really OK.

Please feel free to say anything at all you wish to me. I don't want you to be sensitive with me. I already TRUST YOU implicitly and I know you would not intentionally hurt me. Please just say whatever wish.

Naturally---all my life----I've been educating and researching myself about my own various peoples on both continents.

When I said I didn't know much about my mother's family....I meant the individual people themselves, not the Oromo as a race.

And Oromos are considered a "race", not a tribe, just as Pygmys are a "race".

It's my grandfather, the Gisis that I know nothing about for instance.

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Posted on Saturday, November 05, 2005 - 04:04 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola, I personally think you're more authentically black than MOST non bi-racial blacks I've met. Don't be too hard on yourself.
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Posted on Saturday, November 05, 2005 - 05:02 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Renata,

Help me out here will ya??? That's what I been tryin' to tell her. I don't care how many naps he's got per square inch, Clarence Thomas ain't authentic!! ;)
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Posted on Saturday, November 05, 2005 - 05:11 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh, God, let's hope not!
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Posted on Saturday, November 05, 2005 - 05:16 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

KOLA SAID:

I am the highest ranking woman in the SPLA.
I challenge men and talk back to men in public.
I dress in American clothing.
I was RAISED BY Black Americans--not just in the same city, but in the same HOUSE, by them. So whatever I do bad...gets blamed on them.
I am aggressive and willful.

Ree: And you've done it all to help Black people, and African people. And it hasn't been easy for you, and may have even made you and your own family a target. While many of them have done nothing. I would say you are more authentically African than even they are.
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Posted on Saturday, November 05, 2005 - 05:33 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

But I disagree, Blaklioness.

Clarence Thomas IS an Authentic Black person, biologically.

He's just a traitor.

There's a big difference---BECAUSE----a traitor receives a much "harsher" punishment than an outsider or a groupie.

So you mustn't discount his authenticity, otherwise we can't prosecute his kind.

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Posted on Saturday, November 05, 2005 - 05:37 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Michael Jackson is another AUTHENTIC BLACK who comes from a family of traitors.

They joined the JEHAVOH'S WITNESSES so they wouldn't have to go to the same church as the other negroes in Gary, Indian.

You can't let them get away with being "white"

....the way that someone like Mariah Carey really and truly has a legitimate claim of not being tied to "Black people".

MJ started out authentic:

MJ

Beloved in both AFRICA and the UNITED STATES
as our "pride and joy".

And he betrayed us.

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Posted on Saturday, November 05, 2005 - 06:26 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola,

I'm not discounting biology---just the values. They're traitors that must face social justice.
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Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 04:12 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola:

"And I see the majority of light skinned people BLIND and UNAWARE that all this is brewing....as they greedily continue to HOG UP all the representation and all the benefits of White Supremacy and claim that they are just as black as the people on the bottom."

(?)

SPIN - Society for the Prevention of Ignorant Niggas.

Get over it.
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Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 04:16 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Nels:

SPIN - Society for the Prevention of Ignorant Niggas.

(?)

Seriously, what?

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Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 10:26 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tonya --

The statement looks like a baseless assumption.
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Tonya
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Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 10:52 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ohhh, it's an acronym!!! Cute! I am the most dense person on the planet, Nels.

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