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Nels
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Nels
Post Number: 140
Registered: 07-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 24, 2005 - 03:26 am: | 
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When the next related board dispute arises, cross-reference your confusion first.
"http://www.answers.com/topic/list-of-multiracial-people"
Juz Makin' Noize...
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Kola_boof
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 730
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 24, 2005 - 03:29 am: |
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Melting pot?
More like a bucket of VOMIT.
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Kola_boof
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 731
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 24, 2005 - 03:32 am: |
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Oh, and since I'm.....BI-RACIAL, I can say that.
But I identify 100% with the Authentic Blacks.
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Yukio
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Yukio
Post Number: 886
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 24, 2005 - 03:44 am: |
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Isn't this interesting. Consider "black" and "white", for example. These two words represent US race relations. Black means African American, for the most part. And white means white American. This is the power of the ODR; it also suggests how black people or African Americans lack their own land, though I would argue that they are a nation within a nation, part of a settler colony. |
Yukio
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Username: Yukio
Post Number: 888
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 24, 2005 - 04:47 am: |
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Consider the arbitrariness of the term...this of course doesn't preclude racism:
race (râs)
n.
A local geographic or global human population distinguished as a more or less distinct group by genetically transmitted physical characteristics.
A group of people united or classified together on the basis of common history, nationality, or geographic distribution: the German race.
A genealogical line; a lineage.
Humans considered as a group.
Biology.
An interbreeding, usually geographically isolated population of organisms differing from other populations of the same species in the frequency of hereditary traits. A race that has been given formal taxonomic recognition is known as a subspecies.
A breed or strain, as of domestic animals.
A distinguishing or characteristic quality, such as the flavor of a wine.
[French, from Old French, from Old Italian razza, race, lineage.]
USAGE NOTE The notion of race is nearly as problematic from a scientific point of view as it is from a social one. European physical anthropologists of the 17th and 18th centuries proposed various systems of racial classifications based on such observable characteristics as skin color, hair type, body proportions, and skull measurements, essentially codifying the perceived differences among broad geographic populations of humans. The traditional terms for these populations—Caucasoid (or Caucasian), Mongoloid, Negroid, and in some systems Australoid—are now controversial in both technical and nontechnical usage, and in some cases they may well be considered offensive. (Caucasian does retain a certain currency in American English, but it is used almost exclusively to mean “white” or “European” rather than “belonging to the Caucasian race,” a group that includes a variety of peoples generally categorized as nonwhite.) The biological aspect of race is described today not in observable physical features but rather in such genetic characteristics as blood groups and metabolic processes, and the groupings indicated by these factors seldom coincide very neatly with those put forward by earlier physical anthropologists. Citing this and other points—such as the fact that a person who is considered black in one society might be nonblack in another—many cultural anthropologists now consider race to be more a social or mental construct than an objective biological fact.
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Ntfs_encryption
Newbie Poster
Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 21
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 24, 2005 - 09:32 am: |
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Consider the arbitrariness of the term...this of course doesn't preclude racism:
race (râs)
n.
A local geographic or global human population distinguished as a more or less distinct group by genetically transmitted............
### Interesting but is there a point here? |
Chrishayden
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 1554
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 24, 2005 - 10:08 am: |
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Nels:
We ain't the ones they gotta deal with on that. |
Roxie
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Roxie
Post Number: 269
Registered: 06-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 24, 2005 - 06:53 pm: |
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We can all agree that those mixed with white and a non-black ancestry are considered white by default until their non-white parent is revealed, at least in the subconcious of most americans. So does it if really matter if one parent is one or two shades less white than the other?
Besides, Americns only notice the most contrasted of group unions: between black and white. |
Yukio
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Yukio
Post Number: 889
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 24, 2005 - 07:44 pm: |
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Ntfs_encryption: Although the term race is unstable, most folk, it seems, believe that they know exactly what it is when they see. |
Nels
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Nels
Post Number: 141
Registered: 07-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 12:19 am: |
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Chrishayden --
"We ain't the ones they gotta deal with on that."
It's all relative. |
Renata
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Renata
Post Number: 137
Registered: 08-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 04:32 pm: |
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This is the one that caught my attention:
"Giancarlo Esposito, actor, African American mother and Italian father"
It's interesting to me that, for the most part, he usually portrays himself as black (I've seen him portrayed as Hispanic only once).
Also, I didn't realize the Mowry kids and Mario Van Peebles were bi-racial.
And Soledad O'Brian....So THAT'S where she got that funny Spanish/Irish name? I always assumed she'd married an Irishman.
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Kola_boof
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 741
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 05:19 pm: |
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The MODEL Tyson Beckford.
BOTH his parents are chocolate skinned black.
His grandparent was "Chinese" (in fact, PART Chinese).
But like Naomi Campbell....he allows people to consistently claim/believe that he's "Bi-racial" when he's not.
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Afroamerican
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Username: Afroamerican
Post Number: 65
Registered: 08-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 03:01 pm: |
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I remember reading both Noami and Tyson Beckford where 1/4 Chinese. They claim they are "mixed" with Chinese, but not actually Biracial! Dark skinned Foxy Brown (the rapper) claims to be 1/4 fillipino too!
Basically Chinese Blood to West Indians seems to be what Indian blood is in the Americans! Everyones' extemely proud of it even if its nothing but a DROP................... |
Moonsigns
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Username: Moonsigns
Post Number: 737
Registered: 07-2004
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 05:40 pm: |
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To me, I don't care what they are "mixed" with. Tyson and Naomi are both beautiful!!!! |
Renata
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Username: Renata
Post Number: 149
Registered: 08-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 11:19 pm: |
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I'm not a big fan of Ms. Campbell. She's just kind of...hard, like a guy. Her arms look to me like she lifts weights or something. And her face looks almost chiseled. But maybe that's just because I'm used to the women here being kinda softies. |
Kola_boof
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 749
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 11:37 pm: |
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It called "good bone structure", Renata.
Like Marlene Dietrich, Faye Dunaway, Greta Garbo or Joan Crawford.
But of course, on WHITE women, Americans see it as "classic beauty"---not mannish.
Only on Black women is it derided.
Naomi (to me) is one of the most stunningly beautiful black women in the media---I just don't like her is all, because she's a "self-hating" colorstruck black woman.
But her Classic African features are gorgeous!
Here she is with Tyson Beckford
--the two of them are supposed to be
HALF CHINESE, which is bullshit.
They both look classically beautiful
FULL-BLOODED "West Africans", but they
never credit Africa for their looks
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Renata
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Renata
Post Number: 150
Registered: 08-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 11:52 pm: |
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Well, I don't find those other chicks you mentioned cute, either. Faye Dunaway and Joan Crawford look like drag queens to me, especially as they got older. I don't even know what those other two look like.
She does have gorgeous lips, though. |
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