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Libralind2
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Bill Bennett: "[Y]ou could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down"
Addressing a caller's suggestion that the "lost revenue from the people who have been aborted in the last 30 years" would be enough to preserve Social Security's solvency, radio host and former Reagan administration Secretary of Education Bill Bennett dismissed such "far-reaching, extensive extrapolations" by declaring that if "you wanted to reduce crime ... if that were your sole purpose, you could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down." Bennett conceded that aborting all African-American babies "would be an impossible, ridiculous, and morally reprehensible thing to do," then added again, "but the crime rate would go down."
Bennett's remark was apparently inspired by the claim that legalized abortion has reduced crime rates, which was posited in the book Freakonomics (William Morrow, May 2005) by Steven D. Levitt and Stephen J. Dubner. But Levitt and Dubner argued that aborted fetuses would have been more likely to grow up poor and in single-parent or teenage-parent households and therefore more likely to commit crimes; they did not put forth Bennett's race-based argument.
From the September 28 broadcast of Salem Radio Network's Bill Bennett's Morning in America:
CALLER: I noticed the national media, you know, they talk a lot about the loss of revenue, or the inability of the government to fund Social Security, and I was curious, and I've read articles in recent months here, that the abortions that have happened since Roe v. Wade, the lost revenue from the people who have been aborted in the last 30-something years, could fund Social Security as we know it today. And the media just doesn't -- never touches this at all.
BENNETT: Assuming they're all productive citizens?
CALLER: Assuming that they are. Even if only a portion of them were, it would be an enormous amount of revenue.
BENNETT: Maybe, maybe, but we don't know what the costs would be, too. I think as -- abortion disproportionately occur among single women? No.
CALLER: I don't know the exact statistics, but quite a bit are, yeah.
BENNETT: All right, well, I mean, I just don't know. I would not argue for the pro-life position based on this, because you don't know. I mean, it cuts both -- you know, one of the arguments in this book Freakonomics that they make is that the declining crime rate, you know, they deal with this hypothesis, that one of the reasons crime is down is that abortion is up. Well --
CALLER: Well, I don't think that statistic is accurate.
BENNETT: Well, I don't think it is either, I don't think it is either, because first of all, there is just too much that you don't know. But I do know that it's true that if you wanted to reduce crime, you could -- if that were your sole purpose, you could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down. That would be an impossible, ridiculous, and morally reprehensible thing to do, but your crime rate would go down. So these far-out, these far-reaching, extensive extrapolations are, I think, tricky.
Bill Bennett's Morning in America airs on approximately 115 radio stations with an estimated weekly audience of 1.25 million listeners.
— A.S.
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Cynique
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Interesting article. A subtle revelation about the-right-to-life people. If you read between the lines over time, it becomes apparent that with them it's not about the sanctity of life but about the suitablity of the living. And, I wonder about the relationship between the higher rate of abortions and a lower rate of crime. The under-class people from which crime is mostly like to emanate are the first to tell you that they "don't believe in abortion". Dey have dem babies. I also loathe that hypocritical William Bennett. |
Anunaki3600
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Forget about petty crime by purse snatchers, crack dealers, or those that steal "pound cake". The biggest criminals are those that committ "white collar crime" which runs into billions of dollars and tax payers foot their bills. F*ck these racist MF. |
Anunaki3600
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The neo-cons would rather create tension between the Black/White communities in order to deflect criticism coming towards the Bush admin. in regards to their recent failure in New Orleans and the Iraq war. |
Chrishayden
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Their true feelings are coming out--they can't help themselves. He would love to wake up and see all the black people finally gone-- |
Nels
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Obviously, the mainstream White media’s insidious depiction(s) of the so-called “black” person has succeeded in reinforcing the “us vs. them” mindset, but now transcends the “haves vs. have-nots” reality. Again, this brings into question, (who is really black, and who isn’t?). There is a distinct difference (regarding that issue), and White America doesn’t want to acknowledge it and Black America doesn’t want to accept it.
If the most prudent and pragmatic course of action were based solely on historical and empirical evidence, then one would need to look at the percentage of recorded crimes committed by “blacks” in correlation to the percentage of the general population that is “black”, and the percentage of black incarceration. Beyond this, it could be said that some benefit might be achieved by aborting all “black” babies (as strictly inferred by the images that the media has portrayed). Mind you, were not talking about the Colin Powell’s of the world. However, what’s to say that an even greater benefit might be achieved by aborting all “white” babies.
The reality may be horrifying, but just think for a minute. What if the following were to occur?
- Eradicate all white people older than 35. Would this immediately solve society’s injustices?
- Abort all babies of Arab and radical Islamic persuasion. Would this reduce terrorism?
- Commit genocide against the Jews. Hitler already tried it. Did it work?
The point is, no matter how inflammatory a person’s comments or views might be, a “smart-thinking’ mind might certainly have to entertain the end result in order to justify the means. As I’ve said before, the proliferation of racial integration in America is slowly destroying the very system of segregation and intolerance that (then) White America created in order to dominate all non-whites. Unfortunately, as a whole, current White America doesn’t see racism as a real problem. One would think that they would realize that four fifths of the world’s existing population is people of color. But then again, there are many who smoke in a full grain elevator, if you understand what I’m saying.
Through the eyes of the media and historical performance and observation, Black America appears to be fragmenting into two distinct camps…
- Group 1: One that is characterized by ignorant, uneducated and undereducated “have-nots” who by and large are perceived as being:
1) dark in skin complexion, “Negroid” in dominant facial features (but not necessarily hair texture) - [victims of colorism?]
2) lacking correct diction skills
3) averse to most forms of assimilation
4) uncouth
5) violent
6) and the list goes on
True or not? Who knows.
Proven or not? Not certain.
Observed? Yes.
- Group 2: The other one that is characterized by educated, well informed, progressive “haves” who by and large are perceived as being:
1) passed the brown paper bag test from a very conservative viewpoint - [benefactors of colorism?] - (this one doesn’t hold water)
2) having proper diction skills
3) receptive and approachable
4) well mannered
5) intelligent
6) and the list goes on
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This brutal dichotomy only scratches the surface of the larger and more formidable and complex problems that lie ahead. One of the most prominent issues is and will continue to be how Black America continues to perceive itself. It makes you wonder, unlike John Stossell’s March 2005 ABC News segment on colorism (where most blacks knew it was true but didn’t want to talk about it), how many “so-called” black people actually agree with William Bennett’s statement, but don’t want to admit that it actually might be true? Odds are, Group 2 is mum on this one and Group 1 will self-destruct.
One more jab. The interesting thing is that White America doesn’t recognize the blackest and most educated continental Africans as black, but they certainly do see the blackest and most ignorant Black Americans as subhuman. Come again?
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Tonya
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It's a risky thing. We definately need to talk about race in this country... so that means we need to be more tolerant of comments like the one Bennett made. But what would be the fallout if such comments were being made freely by white America and everyone else??? Can we talk about race?
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Nels
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At the moment, Bennett is more of a scapegoat than a racist, and he is currently being subjected to aimless barbs by ruderless detractors such as Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Nancy Pilosi. Unfortunately, his real message was lost - and that was simply (how does society address disproportionate cause and effect?). Sometimes it takes a fire in the church to get the choir to sing. |
Chrishayden
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"A scapegoat"--"We need to be tolerant"
You know, some negroes remind me of the classical abused spouse--get hit upside the head and make excuses for him "He didn't mean it," they whimper. Til the abusive monster kills them.
I don't know what it will take to wake you up. Probably nothing. I suppose you'll be making excuses even as you get rammed into the soap factory.
One thing I will say for white folks. They don't take that crap. Jessie makes a "Hymietown" remark, he spends the rest of this life apologizing. Farrakhan allegedly says something anti semetic, the whole U.S. Senate denounces them.
Now, many times here and other places, I hear about how the young black people don't respect themselves. Black Gangbangers and hiphoppers don't respect themselves. It's obvious a lot of so called educated middle and upper class black people don't respect themselves. Next time I hear one go off about somebody talking dirty on a rap video I'm going to bring up some of these posts.
Maybe somebody ought to do a rap CD with some of what youse got to say on it. Probably be a triple platinum hit.
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Chrishayden
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ZNet | U.S.
Abort Every White Baby!
by Justin Felux; October 01, 2005
Bill Bennett, a prominent right-wing blowhard, has recently come under intense fire for remarks made on his radio show, in which he stated, "I do know that it's true that if you wanted to reduce crime, you could ... abort every black baby in this country." He quickly backed away from the proposition, saying "That would be an impossible, ridiculous, and morally reprehensible thing to do, but your crime rate would go down." It's unfortunate that Bennett chose to be so politically correct, because I think he may be onto something here. He's just wrong about the target. If we really wanna get tough on crime, it's the white babies who should start getting the coat hanger treatment.
Consider the fact that whites commit three times as many violent crimes as blacks every year, just in raw numbers. This is just for ordinary "street crimes" such as assault. The numbers become skewed out of this world when you consider "white-collar" crimes (typically, the collar isn't the only thing that's white).
For instance, job-related accidents and illnesses claimed the lives of 70,000 Americans in 1992, a significant portion of which can be chalked up to white employers neglecting to comply with occupational health and safety laws. According to studies, up to 64,000 die every year due to pollution and other environmental hazards produced by industry. Another 21,700 die due to consumer product deaths, costing the nation $200 billion a year. Another $200 billion is lost annually due to white-collar embezzlement. These two statistics alone add up to over 26 times the amount of all the robberies and petty thefts committed every year combined!
We should also not forget the ravages of the white-owned health care system and insurance industry. Around 18,000 adults are killed every year as a result of a lack of medical coverage. Over 25 thousand die as a result of unnecessary prescriptions and surgeries performed by mostly white doctors. All in all, corporate criminals take about ten times as many lives as street criminals. And I haven't even mentioned the white men who control the apparatus of state, which through war, sanctions, and other means kills hundreds of thousands, if not millions more. Over 100,000 civilians have died in Iraq alone, for example.
I don't know about you, but every time I see a white man in a suit I find a place to hide. Once I feel safe, I call the Department of Homeland Security to report his suspicious activity. I simply don't feel safe knowing that all these savage, white thugs are out walking the streets. After all, from Bob Chambliss to Timothy McVeigh to Eric Rudolph, by far most of the terrorist attacks in America have been committed by whites.
Which brings me to my next point: even if a white guy isn't wearing a suit, you still shouldn't assume that he isn't dangerous. One can find a plethora of deadly and pathological behaviors uniquely prevalent among whites who look just as ordinary as you and me. Most notable among them are spree killing, serial murder, and cannibalism. About 90% of all serial killers are white men. Some other white pastimes include animal torture, vampirism, Satan worship, witchcraft, self-mutilation, eating disorders, and child sexual molestation. White men engage in child sexual abuse at twice the rate of black men. By aborting all the white babies, we will be protecting a great many children from the horror of enduring abuse at the hands of white male sex perverts (pardon the redundancy), in addition to preventing the creation of new white molesters in the future.
Alas, even if we allowed white fetuses to continue living, and they manage to avoid the pitfalls of vampirism, corporate employment, and serial murder, the odds are still pretty good that they will turn out to be hopeless drunks. Whites are 74% more likely than blacks to binge drink regularly. In fact, there are more binge drinking whites than there are blacks in the entire population of the country! Naturally, whites are twice as likely as blacks to drive drunk, resulting in over ten thousand deaths every year. The same trend can be seen when considering drug use in general, contrary to popular belief. Whites make up 74% of illegal drug users, whereas only 14% are black. Whites make up a majority of drug dealers as well.
Given all of these facts, can there be any doubt that aborting every white baby would not only reduce the crime rate, but would also result in a much safer, cleaner, and happier existence for all Americans? I can already hear some of you sissy liberals whining about "human rights" or some other nonsense. In reality, you are soft on crime and lack the rugged individualism necessary to get things done. At the very least, we should start forcibly sterilizing white males, much in the same way we did to Latinas and black women up until the 1970s.
I think the most interesting debate will be over the question of what to do with mixed race babies. Should we apply the "one drop" rule, whereby one drop of white blood marks the fetus for termination? I doubt we'll need to take it to that extreme. If the baby is say, 1/8 white, then its more destructive tendencies should be sufficiently diluted. Nevertheless, police and homeland security should still apply increased scrutiny to individuals whose skin looks suspiciously pale. I'm sure Bill Bennett wouldn't mind taking a little harassment from the cops if it results in a safer America for everyone.
Justin Felux is a writer and activist based in San Antonio, Texas. He can be contacted at justins@alacrityisp.net.
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Tonya
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It's horrible to hear things like that comment, Chris, but how else are we going to get a much needed discussion about race started in this country. I, for one, am not always disturbed when one of these guys decide make a comment that's less than sensitive. Some of the things we say/do to each other is far worse than what they say to/about us. Also, most of what they say is born out of ignorance, which is precisely the reason we so desperately need to start talking about it and other things regarding race. Another thing, Chris, I really do not care about what white people think of me; although I believe it's important they know the facts.
I'm with you, it's not always pleasant to hear these things; in my case, it's for the sake of others who might care, or get their feelings hurt. But I ask again, how else are we going to start discussing race in this country if we're not tolerant of what others have to say; and what would be the fallout either way?
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Stephgirl
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None of this stuff coming from white conservatives surprise me whatsoever. They want black folks eliminated one way or another. The methods range, in short of outright genocide, benign neglect, to birth control, jails, sterilizations, the promotion of whiteness to whitewash blacks, to repatriation, etc.
Those pro life people have two standards, one for themselves, another for blacks.
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Nels
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Chris --
Holler if you will, but the view from above show's just how many troops are really around the corner. Keep on flexing. |
Nels
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Stephgirl --
"They want black folks eliminated one way or another."
Look no further. Black folks themselves are already doing a pretty good job of that. |
Cynique
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I gotta hand to you, Nels, in exploring the question of blackness, you say the unsayable and, in doing so, you make people uncomfortable and even indignant. But what you say needs to be aired because while the truth may hurt, it's the assertions predicated on a false premise that do the damage because a false premise leads to a false conclusion. Once a false conclusion is reached, it takes on a life of it's own, a life that is populated by people who can never figure out why things always go wrong. With that in mind, it can be argued that any poposition based on the premise that all men are created equal is a false one. Another question that is interesting to explore is if through an accleration of race-mixing there was no black or white, would there be one less societal ill to contend with. Also we should not overlook what a thorn in the side of the white majority the "red-neck element" is. |
Libralind2
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Chris I agree with your comments 300 %
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Chrishayden
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Tonya:
What discussion? What is to discuss? If I was white I wouldn't talk to negroes. They couldn't make me and there is no money in it. Simple as that, friends.
What you fail to realize is that you will be talking to yourself. You just won't see mfs like that piece of human garbage Bennett don't want to talk. They, unlike pitiful integrationist black folks who are pleading for their love know what they want.
What is to discuss? They get their jollies feeling superior to somebody. You got a whole class of people in this country the only thing they are ever going to have is that they are better than any black person, no matter what.
Now why should they give this up and have nothing?
Go ahead and try to initiate some discussions but you better have a rubber butt cuz you are going to get it kicked plenty.
Nels:
Now, what is that supposed to mean.
Cynique:
what is brave about fawning over people like Bill Bennett? When has any negro ever suffered promoting white supremecy? Looks like they get all the goodies.
Know this, people. They hate kissups and brownnosers worse than anything and have no respect for them. |
Chrishayden
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By the way, you can relax. It's okay to disapprove. The White House has said the remarks are inappropriate.
I never thought I would be backing up George Bush against some negroes, but hey! First time for everything, right? |
Tonya
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...LOL, that was funny, Chris. But when I say "discussion" I don't mean a conversation for enjoyment or pleasure -- I'm not interested in being their friend. I simply want to set the record straight, so that the impact that stems from our portrayal in the media will soften.
Also, I think some of us would benefit from such a discussion in other ways. For example, they're not the "brady Bunch", but you'd be surprised at how many of us still believe, on some level, that they are.
I'm not interested in getting to know them, or them getting to know me, not personally. I just think that it's a good idea to get rid of some of the ignorance; and, lets face it Chris, they control how we're viewed, so, whether we like it or not, we must comminicate with them in order to have any kind of influence on how we're perceived -- at least for now anyway.
Tonya
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Chrishayden
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Tonya:
You must be young. You will find this out. They know what they are doing. There is no ignorance. There is nothing you can say to them. It is a waste.
What can you say to Bill Bennet? He knows what he did was screwed up, knew it before he did it, and sitting there telling the world he didn't do anything.
That is the method these days. Their daddies and grandaddies were out with it. They just do it now and wink. He's in the club now, getting slapped on the back for putting them darkies in their place.
You can only try to inflict punishment on them when they do their thing. |
Cynique
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I guess my saying that I loathe the hypocritical Bill Bennett means that I am fawning over him. As usual, you don't know whether you are coming or going, Haydenchris. (That transposition of letters is so you can recognize your name, dum-dum.) |
Nels
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Chris --
"Now, what is that supposed to mean."
Stop driving to work like your hair's on fire and stop driving home like you've got a stick up your ass. In other words, "think" for a change.
The bottom line: Cooler heads almost always prevail. |
Moonsigns
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NELS:
"The bottom line: Cooler heads almost always prevail."
MOONSIGNS:
I like the way you think, Nels. |
Negrological
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Nels
"Unfortunately, his real message was lost - and that was simply (how does society address disproportionate cause and effect?). Sometimes it takes a fire in the church to get the choir to sing."
disagree.
you are giving bennett far too much credit here. the issue at hand centers around the racial insensitivity surrounding bill bennett's words. whether the comments are racist (or not) can be debated, however what cannot be debated is the insensitive divisiveness of the comments.
the context of bennett's comments was not intended to spark critical, forthright and unprejudiced discussions about the disproportionate self-destructive and nihilistic patterns of poverty stricken - 'black' culture. it's insulting to the intelligence of self-conscious people to insinuate that is the real issue here. |
Renata
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He wasn't thinking. He was just speaking, white man to white man, as they normally do, and just didn't try to find a more diplomatic way to say it on the radio.
The only difference in what he said versus what's said in other homes is that this one was heard on the radio. |
Nels
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Negrological --
Most people wouldn't give Bennett the shit out of their ass, and in reality, there are more black folks in this country who have said and inferred things much worse than what William either said or implied. And, I'll give him as much benefit as I please, regardless of whether or not he deserves it. That's the nice thing about the First Amendment. Ho Hum.
p.s., If hindsight was really 20-20, we'd all probably be sitting on a beach in Bora Bora Tahiti watching the inside of our eyelids while easing that smooth trickle of tropical common sense past our taste buds. |
Negrological
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Nels
It's cool.
The First Amendment allows you to say what you want to say without interference from the government, true. However the First Amendment does not inoculate individuals from criticism and/or discipline. Al Campanis and Jimmy the Greek could have told you that.
Anyhow, Bill Bennett isn’t worth this much discussion IMHO. |
Cynique
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Wow, Negrological and Nels, the late August Wilson would be hard put to write a more compelling dialogue than the exchange between you two. And how civilized that it ended without rancor. N&N. hummmm. |
Nels
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Cynique --
That's the great part about free speech, criticism and all.
Negrological --
More power to you. A thoughtful exchange is a healthy one, no matter who gets pissed off, ticked or whatever, for that matter.
So much for the small talk. 
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