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West_africa
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Posted on Friday, September 16, 2005 - 09:29 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Culture is, necessarily, a possessive case, implying "part-of-it-ness", and implying obligations and responsibilities.

Culture is always fundamentally determinate by nature, especially as regards definition of acceptability and unacceptability.

Culture, to survive, must evolve and must refine itself.
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Nels
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Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2005 - 07:58 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Culture is simply a highly adaptive and fluid state of behavior, thinking, recognition and perception - period. It implies nothing, it’s not determined by nature, and instead of evolving - it is reactive. Meaning? Culture “exists” in parallel with life itself - and it “responds” to whatever environment in which it is practiced, observed and propogated.
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Cynique
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Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2005 - 12:45 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Jeeze. Let me take a stab at it. Culture is a colony of organisms that develop and grow in the petrie dish of society.
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Yukio
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Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2005 - 12:14 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Interesting posts, here. Lets put these conceptualizations in context!

When folk from the British Caribbean, Jamaicans for instance, began to come to NYC in large numbers during the late nineteenth but especially early twentieth century, at what point, if any, did they stop being "Jamaicans"? How do they compare with Jamaicans who arrived post-WWII and more recent migrations--60s and 80s? How is this question answered if we consider the three posters' conceptualization of the ever-abstract "culture"?
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Cynique
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Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2005 - 11:20 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I don't think the early migrants stopped being Jamaicans. In fact, it seems like all those of West Indian heritage developed and grew in the fertile environment of the dominant society but resisted being totally absorbed by it. They maintained their cultural identity, being very particular about distinguishing themselves from African Americans.
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West_africa
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Posted on Monday, September 19, 2005 - 01:34 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The issue of culture and its role in civilization is clearly a far more profound matter than " whether some Jamaican immigrants in New York still feel themselves to be Jamaicans".



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Cynique
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Posted on Monday, September 19, 2005 - 01:40 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, West Africa, any broad assement of culture has to cite specific examples. What do you think the issue of culture's role is in civilization???
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Yukio
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Posted on Monday, September 19, 2005 - 06:43 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Of course, the issue of culture and its role in civilization is not clearly a far more profound matter than "whether some Jamaican immigrants in New York still feel themselves to be Jamaicans." Jamaican culture is an usable instance, an example, of your proposed abraction: "culture and its role in civilization."

You sound like Hegel when he claimed that Africa lacked a history. Accordingly, African history too is also not a "profound matter"?

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West_africa
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Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 02:21 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Nice try, but "no potato".

We are staying with the original comments, and the original focus, thank you.

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Yukio
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Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 04:50 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Nice try, but you sound like Hegel. You even have the imperialist audacity to say "We"! Whom do you represent here? What site do you "occupy"? Is this direct or indirect colonialism? Is this not, as you say, the role of culture in civilization?
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West_africa
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Posted on Saturday, October 08, 2005 - 04:25 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

There is no "Yukio".
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Yukio
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Posted on Sunday, October 09, 2005 - 12:07 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

There is "West_africa"

David Hume, one of your mentors, writes:

I am apt to suspect the negroes, and in general all the other species of men to be naturally inferior to whites. There never was a civilized nation of any complexion than white.

David Hume

West_africa=imperialism=David Hume

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West_africa
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Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 10:44 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

There is no "Yukio".
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Yukio
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Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 01:20 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

west_africa=imperialist
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West_africa
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Posted on Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 03:00 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Notice that the main issue is avoided...

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