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Thequietrider
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2005 - 10:18 pm: | 
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I've seen some really interesting and challenging posts on this board, so I thought I would add to the mix of the wild and the unpredictable. It certainly seems like this group of people really has tough skin, and that's a good thing in the world of virtual jousting.
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Black America’s hidden obsession with colorism continues to grow. It is not abating by any means. Though colorism is not unique to Black America, one day it may reach a crescendo of unparalleled proportions. For now, we’ll focus on the U.S., since that’s where race and skin color are still very potent defining factors in everyday life. Ok, let’s cut to the chase.
A topic that has increasingly become more and more prominent with the high visibility of rap videos, mainstream media advertising and entertainment, and more. Where there’s money, there’s fire: The High-Yellow Factor, that is.
The question: Do dark-skinned black men socialize, date, marry and eventually reproduce with light-skinned (i.e., black: categorization), Caucasian (i.e., white and other) and Asian (i.e., Oriental, East Indian and other) women because they actually love and respect them, or do they pursue, chase and connect with these types of women because they view them as status symbols? Is the(ir) motive greater prestige, respect, envy, etc.? Is that what these guys are really looking for? Another trophy for the wall, Rolodex, jock drawer, hip-hip boardroom, backyard pool party, office picnic, movie premier, Sunday sermon, new cruising convertible, neighborhood gathering, etc.?
Well, there may be many people today who believe that the trophy hunters are reaping huge emotional, financial and social rewards at the expense of these types of women, as well as their much-overlooked darker-skinned black American female counterparts. Are these trophy hunters full of shit, or what? Blackness over here, light/whiteness over there. Are they guilty of anything? Probably. Have they committed a crime? Not likely. However, the victimization of women by this unique class of testosterone-driven “players” (aka “Playuhs”, i.e., “pull-lay-yuzz”) is just beginning to come to light. Don’t get it wrong: there are plenty of great guys who fit the dark-light/white profile who really do love their partner(s) for the “right” reasons. However, that doesn’t seem to be the message that’s getting out.
Given the prevailing preference that dark-skinned black men have for lighter-skinned or white women, one would think that these targeted (classes of) women might have an idea as to what’s really going on. At the time of this keyboarding orgy, that doesn’t appear to be the case, nor does the coming of the ubiquitous wet dream that should be accompanying that stellar revelation. Some of these guys may have been brainwashed from childhood into believing that darker-skinned women (of all qualities, races and ethnicities) don’t add up to a hill of beans. Well, I don’t have a skin color preference and I can tell you, there are a shit load of dark-skinned women out there that are absolutely drop-dead gorgeous - big butts, small butts, big lips, small lips, straight hair, large nosed and small nosed, really curly and kinky hair, and more. Save bad teeth, toes, breath and hygiene.
We’re not talking about women who are clueless streetwalkers, whores, degenerates, check-kiters, gold diggers, etc. We’re talking about women who are progressive, highly intellectual, articulate in their speaking, shrewd and pragmatic thinkers in finance, masters of juggling business tasks and endless household responsibilities, and much more. Some might think that the trophy hunters may have lost sight of the fact that strength comes from adversity. On the one hand, lighter-skinned classes of women are really getting “the shaft” and on the other hand, darker-skinned classes of women aren’t getting “the shaft” at all. What a crock.
These trophy hunters? Their entire game is a farce and a big sad joke. They’re hapless, hopeless, ignorant and obviously don’t realize that they’re not fooling anyone. They’ve got their high-yellow/white priestesses either running around telling everyone that they’ve got a real “black” man in their lives (and not a Mandingo), or that they’ve got a sweet sugar daddy and they’re not about to rock the boat. Which is it? Is their “nigga” ugly, Yooglee, just plain stupid, pea-brain sized in gray-matter, or what? Think not. Everyone in this game knows the rules. It’s how the game is played that counts.
From what can be seen, the trophy hunters (i.e., players) may be in for a real big surprise down the road. By nature, women are not stupid. Some of them may be crazy - even insanely crazy, but they’re absolutely not “real” stupid. The “players” continue to shuck-and-jive and operate like either no one’s watching, no one cares, or no one knows what’s really going on. But, one thing’s almost a given, when their trophies get hip to what’s really going on and start walking away, they’ll all be looking for “stock” in petroleum jelly (aka good old Vaseline). Of these guys, even the dumbest of this pathetic bunch won’t soon forget that their best girlfriend was their “right” hand (or other one, if you’re a lefty).
Yes, there are those women and especially “sistas” that will complain about “people” always attacking black men - the old “self-hate bullshit”. Well, in reality, we’re not just talking about black men. We’re talking about motives, societal pressures, and more weighty issues. No, the trophy hunters aren’t obligated to explain anything to anyone. However, when the “goes around comes around”, no one will want to hear their complaining and whimpering asses when they call out, “Where did all the pussy go?”
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Kola_boof
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2005 - 10:40 pm: |
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My only disagreement with this post...is that most of the LIGHT and WHITE or Non-Black women who are with black men.....are well aware....that their color, hair textures, "lightness" is the KEY factor in being accepted for relationships with these men. Because they KNOW their man is borrowing STATUS through lightness.....notice that the "yellow girl" is always worried about the Hawaiian girl who wants her man..who in turn is trumped by the "White girl" who wants her man.
These women don't give a shit about Black men or Black People...but NEED A MAN (just like we do)...
...so it doesn't bother them one way or the other---just as it probably wouldn't bother DARK BLACK women if their man was prejudiced against dating light skinned women---"because they're light/impure".
Furthermore, a great many of these White and Light Women (think of the Mulattoes who claim "blackness") believe in their superiority and preach it to their own children (you got your 'daddy's' hair--that's your daddy's nose showing).
They aren't about to leave these men from finding out that they're colorstruck.
In fact, these women DEPEND ON colorism, because it benefits them.
Cynique is a major example of that type of woman, as you so often see her on these boards defending it and "Promoting" it as "normal" amongst blacks.
I still say...that I've never heard a White Man complain that his mother was "too white"...or that his newborn child "came out too white".
I've never heard a White Man say that this would be a better world if there were no White women in it.
But I've heard SEVERAL black men make those comments.
Every Friday....a slew of new films open that feature White Men in love with White Women..and their White Families.
I don't give a damn what AMERICAN BLACK MEN want to say about "LOVE", the right reasons-----I maintain that 95% of their relationships with Non-Black Women are based FIRST on the fact that those women are not black...which is what makes those women lovable.
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Kola_boof
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2005 - 10:56 pm: |
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Important note:
If anything turns around....it won't be from lack of pussy.
It will be from the Darker women (who are the majority) making this an issue in their homes and producing a new "aesthetic" amongst their children that goes against this b.s.
The dark mothers are the ones whose self-hatred and colorism created these pathologies in the first place.
They're also notorious for being weak and backing down to the Black Afro man and the Mulatto Higher Ups----look at Yvette constantly insisting: "You can't call yourself authentic!"----and that backing down by DARK women has to change.
We're the REAL fucking power, but feelings of inferiority have kept us on "Neutral" for generations---mainly because no one would acknowledge that colorism was real.
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Tonya
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This brand of colorism has nothing to do with beauty. Throughout my twenties, I've been told many times that I should be a model. Even today when I'm in public I get complemented by men and women of all colors and races. It's kind of strange because when it cames to women it's usually the white, bi-racail and lighter skinned blacks that compliment me the most. This is partly why I don't have any hatred or bias towards these women. The men that approach me are camplementory in different ways too. For example, when white bi-racail or lightskinned men approach me they're usually trying to get my phone number. But when the average black man approaches me he will tell me how beautiful he thinks I am and will even go into the things he admire about my looks, But what I find strange is that he usually will not ask for my number. Some years ago I was standing at a bus stop in philly and this big jeep stopped in front of me. At first I was afraid but then I noticed that it was the rapper Biggy Smalls. I didn't say anything but I listened to what he had to say. He basically told me that although he wasn't trying to get with me he had to stop to tell me how beautiful he thought I was. I thanked him and his driver drove away. Now I was never into Biggy Smalls but back then I heard he dated a lot of women, So I couln't help from thinking that if I were a light-skinned woman he would've asked for my number. I'll never know this for sure, but that's what I think even today. Anyway, this is how it usually is with average or very dark black men.
Again, I don't think that this color thing has anything to do with beauty. I think for black men (especially the average or dark ones) it's all about status like you said. They find dark women attractive, but they opt for the women who will give them that status.
Tonya
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Cynique
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, August 08, 2005 - 02:26 am: |
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You marathon mouth-runners seriously believe that the chameleon of colorism can be verbalized. forgettaboutit. Different strokes for different folks, no accounting for tastes, variety is the spice of life, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, talk is cheap, fools rush in, blah, blah, blah. The sun'll come up tomorrow. You'll see. |
Kola_boof
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, August 08, 2005 - 02:42 am: |
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Tonya---
you'll come to see that as much as Cynique and I disagree...we love each other and we're mother and daughter.
Please don't take her too seriously.
She can be kind, occasionally.
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Tonya
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I don't take her seriously. I think she's funny as hell.
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Cynique
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EW. Flattery will get you 2 sap suckers nowhere. |
Abm
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Kola says: "These women don't give a shit about Black men or Black People...but NEED A MAN (just like we do)...so it doesn't bother them one way or the other---just as it probably wouldn't bother DARK BLACK women if their man was prejudiced against dating light skinned women---"because they're light/impure"."
ABM says: Hmmmmmmm? Well now if THAT is true, what right and justification do darker Black women have to complain about lighterskinned sistahs enjoying an advantage with Black men?
Also, I am a reddish-brown African American husband who has a yellowish-brown African American wife. Do we fit anywhere within this Dark/Light 'skinned' thesis? Or do we for the purposes of this discussion not matter at all? |
Kola_boof
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Well, actually ABM, if black people were HEALTHY about their identities in the way that WHITES or the Nationalist Asians in Asia are---then there wouldn't be much differential in our skin tones. Most blacks would be in a similar range of color. From coal silver to dark fudge to chocolate to nut brown.
Of course, you don't live in a society where you're able to realize that "Light skinned blacks"....is a NOT a normal occurrence. It's a RESULT of heinous crimes against black bodies--and then the blacks Deliberately Marrying in such a way to RETAIN that lightness and add lightness to it.
If you were in your own society....then You and DESTINED would probably both be a lot darker---only I'd be one of your wives, too, and because you're so nice---DESTINED and I would be happily knitting baby clothes together down by the riverside and awaiting you to bring back antelope meat for us to cook 
BUT...we're not in our own society.
As so many Africans say behind closed doors: "What do they mean Dark skinned black? The only blacks are the dark ones!"
But in America, this whole BUFFER RACE of light people has been created.
The BLACK MAN belongs to the BLACK WOMAN.
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Renata
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Don't think we have it all that easy. Black men are turning down light skinned women too .... now that it's no longer taboo to date white women.
Black men (like white men) now prefer women who say that they're "multi-racial" to women who aren't. That's probably a factor behind this big push for black americans to want to do so as a whole. (IMO) |
Abm
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Kola,
I see your point. And it is deftly stated. Essentially, in your worldview, your prior comments would not even matter.
You, of course, don't mind if I eschew responding to your polygamous fantasy. Because in THIS world, ol' ABM had better limit sharing his meat with DESTINED. |
Kola_boof
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Renata said:
Black men (like white men) now prefer women who say that they're "multi-racial" to women who aren't. That's probably a factor behind this big push for black americans to want to do so as a whole. (IMO)
Kola:
That's really not true about White men "prefering" their women multi-racial.
While SOME white men might like to have sex with something exotic
---the far most important thing to a White man is STILL...that his white son MUST be born.....and only a white woman can produce a PURE white child.
Don't even fool yourself with that one.
And white men..overwhelmingly prefer BLONDE, Blue-eyed WHITE women.
In fact, almost every single IMAGE in this society that white men manufacture, demand and produce revolves around that IMAGE.
Every day of the week....THE WHITE MAN churns out movies chock full of White Mothers, White Families--t.v. shows, music videos and songs worshipping his White Woman..books...it's endless...his PRAISING of his own image.
BLACK MEN, meanwhile, will throw a "multi-racial" woman to the curb in a minute---to go even higher on the STATUS poll by attaining a LATINA or a White Wife. And that comes 100% from ingesting the belief in White Supremacy.
Black Americans, as a whole, are also "White Supremacist"---which is what it takes for a Black human being to want to "push", as you say, to be "multi-cultural" in the first place.
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ABM,
I didn't mean to put you in such a precarious spot.
I do wonder why you haven't sent me the ESSAY...and I'm assuming that DESTINED stopped you.
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Renata
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I understand Kola....I meant that they prefer "multi-racial" women to other "BLACK" women. |
Kola_boof
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I agree with that, Renata.
Well..sorta.
You got some White men...who if they're going to be with a Black woman...they want her BLACK.
Especially in Europe where a "mixed" black woman can't even compete with an Ebony West African looking woman for a White Man. Which is astonishingly different from America.
But if you go to France, Belgium, Italy, places like that--it's shocking to see the "type" of Black woman that they almost ALWAYS pick.
Britain is more like America, though.
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Roxie
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'csuse me while I pack my bags! ;)
As I mentioned in another post, don't forget the last hope, Kola: the light skinned black women who DO procreate with dark men. Like my cousin and two of my classmates, their children are dark like their daddies (all three couples are STILL together). There are still men out there (ABM included) who don't have this "white Supremacist" complex. |
Tonya
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Roxie said:
As I mentioned in another post, don't forget the last hope, Kola: the light skinned black women who DO procreate with dark men.
Then she said:
There are still men out there (ABM included) who don't have this "white Supremacist" complex
Question:
Couldn't the first statement be an example of color-struct black men or "white supremacist complex"?
P.S. I quess we should be thankful to our "last Hope" The great white/light-skinned hope.
Tonya |
Kola_boof
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Exactly, Tonya.
Which is why I rarely respond to Roxie---because she's so innocent, she doesn't even see it.
Amazing, isn't it, how MUCH the light/mixed folks think jussssst like the White folks.
Then they get mad when Authentic Blacks don't want to see them as "US".
But she was right about African-looking Black women who hate their looks...being vicious towards the mixed girls. Which, as Cornel West said, is understandable.
I'm writing a novel now about cloning--that will make it easier for women like Roxie to really understand why BLACK women detest them. They mistakenly think it has to do with "beauty", etc. and not "representation", "status".
Roxie thinks these women hate "color" and "hair" of the MIXED GIRL....rather than what the color/hair REPRESENT.
She can't see that her looks...are a SYMBOL of their destruction, their ancestor's destruction, Africa's destruction.
Have you ever encountered Mixed Raced SOMALI WOMEN? Those are the most satanically racist, evil women on planet earth----because they truly believe that all "negro" traits must be erased---and they will tell you in a minute that Black women are "apes/gorillas". They are the Trash of Africa, but EVERYONE worships them for their "beauty".
And nothing is uglier than them. Nothing.
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Tonya
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Kola,
I can't wait until this new novel comes out. It's waaaaaay overdue. I notice that there are many misconceptions about how we feel about light-skinned women. AAs have a fit when black men are stereotyped, but when dark-skinned women are seen as jealous, mean and hateful towards light-skinned women it is automatically accepted. Like I said last week, we have to get over this taboo because we seriously need to talk and straighten things out.
Tonya |
Abm
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Kola says: "Have you ever encountered Mixed Raced SOMALI WOMEN? Those are the most satanically racist, evil women on planet earth----because they truly believe that all "negro" traits must be erased---and they will tell you in a minute that Black women are "apes/gorillas". They are the Trash of Africa, but EVERYONE worships them for their "beauty".
ABM say: I know I may get reemed for this one. But, dayam, Black women are crazy the WORLD OVER. |
Kola_boof
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They are crazy ABM.
And it's the ones who are WORSHIPPED for being "mixed, Italian-looking".
They call themselves "Ethnic" Somalis.
These women will deliberately get pregnant by their BROTHER or COUSIN to keep the "Persian Brown Look".....they openly refer to Black African Somalis as "gorillas", "bantus", "Darkies".
These women will walk right up to you, a Black American man, and say, "Aren't I very beautiful?"
They KNOW the deal and they work it like a KKK hood.
Because the MEN reward them for hating our race---and Black men do that.
I don't care how many Somali and Ethiopians come to DENY the truth....but the MIXED classes are some Racist, Hateful, SATANIC motherfuckers.
Look at the Black ARABS in Sudan who are raping and murdering BLACKS....for being Black.
AFRICA is fucked up period. One quarter of the people over there need a serious Ass-whooping.
They actually believe Black Americans built an "ark" and sailed away, happily.
And that White women are such good women---they don't need baths, as the South African saying goes.
And now the MEDIA and hip hop shit from the Black Americans is just making their ignorant asses...MO IG-nant.
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Tonya
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HAHA!!!
That's not nice ABM. It's Funny but it's not nice! |
Abm
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Kola,
The more you speak, the more I wish I had studied to become an astronaut. Because at least THEN I'd have a chance to blow this looney bin we call Earth.
Tonya,
HAHA!! I'm sorry. But, honestly, as I was reading Kola's comments that was the first thing that came to my mind. |
Tonya
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ABM asked:
Also, I am a reddish-brown African American husband who has a yellowish-brown African American wife. Do we fit anywhere within this Dark/Light 'skinned' thesis? Or do we for the purposes of this discussion not matter at all?
Answer:
During our discussion I refered to some black men as average. I should have been clear but when I say "average" I'm describing the average skin color for blacks. Most of us are not light or very dark. The majority of us are brown. I'm chocolate brown so my complexion is average. By the description that you gave of your complexion, I would consider it as average. This doesn't mean that I place less value on brown skin. It means it's the average skin color for AAs.
Tonya |
Rustang
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To Abm I would like to point out that this is not solely an attribute of black women.If I run into a purple couple from the planet Zoltar,I'm coming in with two assumptions.1)If they landed here because his space ship is running poorly,I can fix it,and 2)his wife is crazy. |
Abm
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Tonya,
Thanks for the clarification.
Rustang.
HAHA!!!
You know, I'll bet you're right.
Oh. But you left out the part about how they would end up lost in the Milky Way Galaxy to begin with: The Zoltarian husband would refuse to stop at a galactic service station to ask for directions. |
Roxie
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Kola:
--She can't see that her looks...are a SYMBOL of their destruction, their ancestor's destruction, Africa's destruction.--
Unlike you and most of everyone here, not every dark woman has the knowledge to see themselves in a beautiful way. Ever read "The bluest eye"? Believe it or not, enviroments like that of the book's still exist. For people who only know Africa as jungles and famine, looks are all that represent the continent.
Also, my point was (as you and tonya CLEARLY missed) is that there was a exception to this "color" rule. For every light-skinned woman who looks down on dark women, there's another woman who doesn't (like my cousins and friends). For ever dark woman who hates light-skins, there's one who doesn't(like myself). supeiority only comes from low self-esteem and only those who feel bad about themselves look down on others.
That's my P.O.V., love it or leave it.
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Kola_boof
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Roxie, I love your opinion and I respect it.
But it's still hella naive.
And to me----you're on a whole different subject than Tanya and I were on.
I do feel bad, however, that I insulted you--because I really do like you. Sorry.
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Kola_boof
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Oh, and Roxie----always remember that it's the insecure people with low self esteem who most often bring about change in the world.
Almost every revolutionary (Garvey, Malcolm X, Sojourner) we've had...and most of our greatest artists, ie. Maya Angelou, James Baldwin....have used those terms to describe themselves.
HATE is often a motivator for rebellions, shut-outs, etc.
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Roxie
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okay, you win. |
Abm
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Kola,
I always chuckle when someone decries how bizarre, crazy, arrogant and insecure you are. Because I always think, have these foks ever read the biographies of Marlon Brando, Madame C. J. Walker, Henry Ford, Ludwig Van Beethoven, Stokley Carmichael, Theodore Roosevelt, Paul Robeson, Thomas Jefferson, Madame Curie, etc. |
Cynique
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Ooooooh Lord. Well, at least abm is not "concurring." Now he's accusing others of "decrying." What will our brooding scribe take out his feather pen and write next? Alas. And such rarified company he places our prima dona in. How could he have forgotten Joan Of Arc??? And can't you just imagine Marie Curie sending a series of bizarre pictures to her colleagues over there in Paris? And we all know how ol Thomas Jefferson never passed up a chance to call all the other foundling fathers a bunch of "motherfuckers". Beethoven is kinda iffy, although he was deaf to his critics. Huh? But, no. Kola had it right. Joan Crawford and Marilyn Monroe; emotionally fragile, self-absorbed, quirky, passionate, tragi-comic actresses. Yes. And it's not like the world isn't full of eccentric, courageous, gifted people; some are famous and some are not. Whatever their station, none have ever been above criticism and the majority of them never reverse the earth's orbit. And, of course, Cynique will be regarded as being - JEALOUS - for saying this. And worst than that, - OLD! Whooooooo! same ol same ol.
And Roxie, girl, stand your ground. Don't be swayed by a lot of trite platitudes. |
Kola_boof
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Cynique,
That was a brilliant post and I for one ENVY your integrity (even when I think you're wrong and don't believe in your mantra)...and as well...I take great inspiration from your age and your resilient "fire" at that age; plus the fact that you don't SEEM in your 70's, you're much too hip (and I mean that seriously).
I'm barely coming to 40 and already sick as a dog, tired and growing more and more reclusive. So I greatly admire you for being such a wonderful role model for me.
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Cynique
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This is the one mantra you should pay attention to, Kola. "Age is just a number." I'm sorry that you are ill and becoming reclusive. I hope that you snap out of it. I take no pleasure in your pain. You say the doctors suspect some of your ailments are psychosomatic. Think yourself back into good health. Close your eyes and wait until the white light appears. Then immerse yourself in it. And, of course, you need to find a good lover. Even if he requires batteries. LOL. Seriously, I send you well wishes. (Because you have such good taste in role models.) |
Kola_boof
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Thank you, Cynique
And you really are wise---because one thing I've been struggling with is that I've become "frigid".
So you could be right. That could be the key to my psychosis. The doctors have been running tests for months---they say I'm healthy as a horse, that's it all in my head.
But I sure don't feel well AT ALL.
Now if only I could muster up the desire to find a man and sex him! LOL
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Kola_boof
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BTW---Thomas is with a NEW younger woman.
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Abm
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Cynique,
Can you manage to do anything here OTHER than criticize whatever Kola and I post?
ANYTHING?
Surely someone of your intellect (and age) can divine more productive pursuits than relentlessly nibbling upon our droppings.
Our are you so overwhelmed by your revulsion on us (which is pretty pathetic) that you can't help but reflexively spew haterade? |
Cynique
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On guard! He's picked up his quill again. Woe is me. Shall I flee? No, I "divine" not to. How can I resist making abm my target when he's such a perfect bull's eye? Now, as me and my new best friend were saying, - yes, Kola, according to Dr. Feelgood, sex is the cure for what ails ya. Enjoy. |
Blkamericanking
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Kola,
You are a strong African sister and i love you so much.I am African American and I love black people all over the world, whether they are brown, light or dark skinned,we are ONE. My point is, i really think you give the light skinned African Americans a hard time. Most of those light skinned African Americans are the descendants of African women who were raped by FILTHY white men. They are our brothers and sisters and we must love and accept them. I was born and raised in the southern part of America, but i am now living in California and i must admit i have noticed a big behavorial difference between the light skinned blacks in California from the ones in the south. Some light skinned African Americans in California act like they want nothing to do with a dark skinned African American. Light skinned African Americans in the south don't think they are better than the dark skinned African Americans. In the south you will see dark skinned brothers who date light and dark skinned sisters, and sisters who date dark and light skinned men. But, in Cali i noticed all the brothers want nothing but a light skinned sister or a white woman and i think it's a damn shame. I thank god that the averge African American in the south is different from the rest of the country.
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Kola_boof
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Black King,
White MEN are no filthier than Black men. They're all capable of the exact same evils...given the power and opportunity...and when it comes to black women; they both have plenty of power to victimize, humiliate and dehumanize HER...like no other. And they do.
In America--I've been treated far worse by Black men than by White men--and I'm one of the girls the black guys supposedly liked.
I feel for so called "light skinned" people exactly what they feel for Black people. Some of them I love and trust----others of them I regard as a separate group.
Yes, California...is a horrible place for Black women. I'm hoping to make enough money off the sell of my new novel to move my sons away from this state.
BUT...my children's father is a wonderful BLACK man who lives here and owns a business and is very honorable in taking care of us; he is also exceptionally respectful and protective of ALL black women--so I can't claim that I've suffered what I see so many other Black women in California going through.
He's from Belize, however.
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Abm
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Kola,
What about the African American MAN who ADOPTED you? |
Blkamericanking
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Kola,
The white man's "TRUE NATURE" is evil and the black man's is righteous. If there are any evil black men, it's because the white man's evil ways have rubbed off on the black man. I apologize for all of the ignorant African American men who have mistreated you. Please don't hate us. |
Kola_boof
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I don't hate black men.
Do any of you ever watch t.v. or listen to the radio or read magazines and books? THEY hate us!! Shit.
ABM, of course I could name 20 wonderful, fantastic black men that I LOVE. From Derrick Bell to my Black American father, Marvin Johnson to Cornel Chesney who started a publishing house for me---but when we talk in GENERAL about "Black Men"....we're not even talking about Kola Boof....we're talking about a nation of 43 million men and women who came from Africa. THAT is the subject at hand.
I do not hate black men---I just feel that in general, they don't exist.
And I've often blamed that on WEAK, under-developed black women. But still, with only 30% of Black Females having a father in their lives and with Black Men so completely obsessed with light skin---it's impossible for the women to see any value in the themselves; let alone want to be something that their fathers hate.
I still don't agree that the White man's "True Nature" is evil and that the Black man's is "righteous". How can the Black Man kill and disallow his own mother if his nature is so righteous? It's patriotic to say--but it's not true. And, in fact, since Black men were here 20,000 years BEFORE the white men---it could be argued that the white SON is just like his once All-Powerful Black father. Men are men....and for a BLACK WOMEN, there's little difference between any of them.
White women revere Black men---because they have a REASON to. Shit, if I was a White woman, I would be singing the praises of Black Men, too!
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Kola_boof
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Black King,
Hi and welcome.
But please, no bowing. We're all just folks in here.
We're glad to have you around.
I've been sick lately, so I might not be in sometimes, but I'm glad you're here.
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Roxie
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Blkamericanking said: "In the south you will see dark skinned brothers who date light and dark skinned sisters, and sisters who date dark and light skinned men."
Come on, Guys! I was making the same point several post ago! My cousin and her husband are one of those ppl. NOT to mention the fact these light skinned ppl give birth to dark babies just like the dark ladies. No one gets that? I mean, no one has a light cousin with brown or dark kids? Kola, everbody, I was making this point to prove that that the dark population may not dissapear as quickly if the dark person passes his/her genes through black parters of all shades.Genetics, people, genetics! sigh
I also reiterate my other second point: there are still black ppl, men and women, who do not view their features as something valuable. If given the divine option, some of these people WOULD become white or "exotic"! Disturbing but true.
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I'm not angry, just fustrated. Respond to me later, recover from that back pain first. I'm gonna lie down too. |
Blkamericanking
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Roxie,
Thank you for understanding the point i was trying to make. My uncle in the south is married to a high yellow sister and she has a dark skinned daughter from a previous marriage. So yes, light skinned people can give birth to a dark skinned kids. There are high yellow brothers and sisters who consider themselves just as black as a dark skinned sister or brother. I must admit that there are color struck black men AND women and i don't like to associate with people like that. |
Roxie
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Some folks don't get that not every AA is subconsiously influenced by colorism. It's a unique perspective few only share, I guess.
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Blkamericanking
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I agree with you once again, Roxie. Just curious but, would you happen to be from the south? |
Roxie
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I'm not, but my mother(and her side of the family) is from North Carolina. So I'm familiar with southern customs. |
Renata
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I'm southern and I'm guessing that we're not so colorstruck here because we have children and don't know what color the children will be until they literally pop out. My brother has four children, with three different colors: one very light skinned with gray eyes, one very dark skinned, and two in the middle who have been mistaken for Somali.
Even my sister, brother, and I are three different colors. I'm high yellow, my sister is higher yellow, and my brother is brown. I have 3 aunts who have 3 kids each, and they have the same situation: dark, light, lighter children in the same family.
It would hardly make sense for me to only want a high yellow husband and have the kids come out dark skinned anyways. (I think this is the same reason my sister prefers white men.)
Probably more than half of the high yellow people here in the south have dark skinned relatives. |
Renata
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Post Number: 47
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The light skin/gray eyes gene is common in my family, but strangely, NO TWO SIBLINGS HAVE IT! It just randomly jumps around.
Some are born to light skinned relatives, some are born to dark skinned relatives. |
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