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Chrishayden
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For as long as I have been alive it has been an article of faith with me and mine, my friends and family and community, all those who thought like I do, that people are the same.
But I am beginning to wonder.
I mean there are things that white people will not stand for.
Here in St. Louis some years ago a white cop shot a pregnant black woman to death sitting on her porch. He was not even shooting at her. He was shooting at another black woman who it was alleged he was going with at the time.
A white policeman called up anonymously on a talk show to talk about it. That blacks were overreacting, coming down unjustly on the police department, etc. The black host asked him what they';d have done if the roles had been reversed. The cop said without hesitation "We'd have killed him on the spot."
This is awful but this is a totally human reaction.
Black folks said oh well. He lost his job and the family got some money.
What the hell is money? Is it a substitute for our humanity? These things happen to Black people tend to shuffle around and shrug and say, "Oh well."
They take the sacred ballots of black people, the ballots black people say are so important and that people died for and you need to cast, and literally wipe their butts with them and black folks say, Oh well.
They take a five year old girl and handcuff her like she's a crip or a blood, and black folks just say, oh well.
Black people seem to be different. They seem to exhibit the characteristics of the abused spouse. They deny. They make excuses. They say oh well.
They have no sense of outrage. Why? Is ya scairt? Is it a sense of Christian resignation? Do you feel unworthy? Do you think if you are outraged there will be a riot? There are things that no human being should allow another to do to him. If you do, human nature being what it is, I can assure you it will be repeated. |
Kola_boof
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Post Number: 213
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Hi Chris, my love.
Remember Gil Scott Heron said: "Niggaz is scared of revolution".
I know that's right.
Plus the Black Community is weaker than it's ever been in history.
Blacks now subconsciously believe they have a crack at "Leaving Blackness Behind" alltogether---and nobody owns anybody, nobody is responsible or connected to anybody.
Our race is over populated with "niggerstock" but nobody listens to me.
We just keep breeding more and more.
I told these people to scrap all that Islam and Christianity bullshit, but would they listen to me? NO.
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Remember Latasha Harlins? (the 14 yr. old shot in the BACK by a Korean grocer).
Black folks just said: "She had a bad attitude".
But it was because of Latasha Harlins that I vowed never to call myself an "American".
The treatment of that black CHILD was a loud message to me.....what this country was really all about. That White Woman Judge let that Korean Lady off with "PROBATION" for mudering a 14 yr. old black child...
....and nobody did shit about it.
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Chrishayden
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Kola:
I guess we're just beat down. I guess the white folks just done laid the smackdown on us and we just can't take no mo'.
I guess all we want us our l'il porridge, our l'il crumb and y'all can walk all over us, because we is the natural born doormats.
I wasn't thinking. I'm sorry y'all. My bad. |
Kola_boof
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Chris---
You get it from Africa.
Trust me.
My father wasn't even Black and you sound just like he used to sound.
He couldn't believe that blacks didn't want anything major out of life. Just let the Arabs and the British come in and do whatever they want.
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Jackie
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"Be the change you want to see in the world"
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Cynique
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There's plenty of outrage in the black community. But black folks in the inner cities are so outraged by what blacks are doing to each other that they are too distracted to focus on what "The Man" is doing to them. The bourgeoise and the millionaire entertainers who ain't "beat down" don't give a shit about what's happening outside of their sphere of activity. They figure that they "made it" and are outraged at how the underclass is its own worst enemy. |
Anunaki3600
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Class differences has divided the AA community. Poor black folks only come in support of rich black folks like O.J, M.J, R. Kelly without getting any of the crumbs off the rich black folks plates. The only time that I saw outrage for a poor black man high on PCP, but beaten by cops, was during the L.A. riots. |
Abm
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Cynique,
I think what some here would find ironic is that in Chicago less than 5 years ago 2 young Black people were shot dead by police officers, yet little has been seen/heard about it. There've been scant - if any - cries of racism, no calls to hang the murderous po-po's from the gallow and gouge their eyes out with fiery pokers.
Why?
Why haven't most of you seen/heard much about that? Well then. Could it be that BOTH the murdering officers were Black? And one is...horror-of-horror...a woman?
But have no fear: Both families of the slain scored multi-million dollar settlements (I think the late-great barrister Johnnie Cochran assisted in one the claims). |
Cynique
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Yes, ABM, and just recently a small religious college located in a suburb of Chicago had to temporarily evacuate the entire student body, subsequently relocating all 40 of its minority students into hotels because hate mail had been sent to several black and Hispanic students, using racial epithets while threatening to kill them with shot guns. Well, come to find out after extensive investigation, this was all a hoax, the handiwork of a black girl who confessed to sending the letters because she didn't like attending the school, and figured that if its campus was proven to be a racist place, then her parents would let her drop out. Now, as a black female columnist for one of Chicago's newspaper noted, the worst thing to emerge from this whole incident is that it set a precendent for white people to dismiss legitimate racist charges as just being the accusations of disgruntled black people; another example of black people shooting themselves in the foot. And the reason why I have become discouraged by "the black condition" is that not a month goes by in the Chicagoland area that there isn't a group of black folks gathered together, praying and laying flowers and mementos at the site of some young person's murder. This ritual is followed up by a parade of concerned citizens trooping down the streets, led by preachers and community leaders, vowing to take their neighborhoods back. And, on the occasion of the offenders being arrested, the killings are always found to be gang-related or a case of mistaken identity or an imagined slight. Then, a few weeks later, it's back to the same ol tragic scenario. How can this cycle be broken? What is the answer? Does it begin in kindergarten, or in the womb of a poor single, young black girl? Or is The System to blame??? And if The System is to blame, can it be thwarted if black people wise up and stop falling prey to its built-in traps??? Who know?? |
Mahoganyanais
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Cynique: Yes, ABM, and just recently a small religious college located in a suburb of Chicago had to temporarily evacuate the entire student body, subsequently relocating all 40 of its minority students into hotels because hate mail had been sent to several black and Hispanic students, using racial epithets while threatening to kill them with shot guns. Well, come to find out after extensive investigation, this was all a hoax, the handiwork of a black girl who confessed to sending the letters because she didn't like attending the school, and figured that if its campus was proven to be a racist place, then her parents would let her drop out.
Mah: Was she from Pittsburgh? A young woman did a similar thing here (put a threatening, racist note in her locker) for the same reason, at the private school my older daughter attends.
I hate when people do mess like this, but I believe white folks who are inclined to be dismissive will do so without such incidents. They don't need a reason or an example to point to. They do need to remember that whites as well as blacks make false claims base on race (that jackass--Charles Stewart?--in Boston, Susan Smith)
Reminds me of people who are immediately skeptical about accusations of rape. |
Cynique
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You got dat right, MAH. |
Abm
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Cynique,
I heard about the story you recite. I agree that hoaxes such as this make is more difficult for authentic victims of racism (ala rape) to get help.
And for that reason, I hope this young lady is made to pay of STIFF and PUBLIC penalty for what she's done!
Can you believe a Black person - in this day/time - would resort to committing such a dangerously fraudulent act just to convince her parents to withdraw her from a school she dislikes? This really speaks to just how fractured the Black community is. Because no Black person with ANY sense of social responsibility would DOUBLE-DARE do such a harmful thing.
Man! Wonder what her FAMILY life has been like. |
Cynique
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This girl is supposed to be from a very religious back ground, and her parents have been mute about the whole proceedings. And the plot thickens as the girl is now claiming that the police made her confess, and that she didn't really do it. No telling how it will all turn out. |
Chrishayden
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All:
Do I detect a little bit of growing outrage?
There is hope for you yet!
About the young black lady accused of perpetrating a hoax it still don't give white folks a pass far as I'm concerned. They have done so much dirt and continue to do some that we will still have to investigate such claims--
Yes there have been false claims of rape or sexual assault but we don't dismiss them all on that basis.
I am thinking--what kind of climate has been created that someone can even do such a thing? |
Yvettep
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...Speaking of "hoaxes" and "frauds":
...While a third of the white population of the U.S. lived within the redneck culture, more than 90% of the black population did. Although that culture eroded away over the generations, it did so at different rates in different places and among different people. It eroded away much faster in Britain than in the U.S. and somewhat faster among Southern whites than among Southern blacks, who had fewer opportunities for education or for the rewards that came with escape from that counterproductive culture.
Nevertheless the process took a long time. As late as the First World War, white soldiers from Georgia, Arkansas, Kentucky and Mississippi scored lower on mental tests than black soldiers from Ohio, Illinois, New York and Pennsylvania. Again, neither race nor racism can explain that--and neither can slavery.
The redneck culture proved to be a major handicap for both whites and blacks who absorbed it. Today, the last remnants of that culture can still be found in the worst of the black ghettos, whether in the North or the South, for the ghettos of the North were settled by blacks from the South. The counterproductive and self-destructive culture of black rednecks in today's ghettos is regarded by many as the only "authentic" black culture--and, for that reason, something not to be tampered with. Their talk, their attitudes, and their behavior are regarded as sacrosanct...
From Thomas Sowell's new book; See excerpt here: http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110006608
Also read responses here: http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/responses.html?article_id=110006608
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Kola_boof
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Thomas Sowell is the living embodiment of the word "nigger".
That's what he does for a living.
He and Michael Jackson have done more for White Supremacy than Willie Lynch ever did.
--Kola Boof
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Kola_boof
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Yvette, the responses from these people made me have to say a few things.
(1) Most "Africans" who come to this country are usually TOTALLY IGNORANT of the history of the Black American people. Therefore---they don't know what the hell they're talking about when they say that Black Americans blame everything on race.
In my personal opinions....Black Americans need to KEEP blaming race (because it's TRUE) and they need to KEEP being vocal, because the U.S. is truly the World Center from which all racist and colorist ANIMUS flows. Even the Arabs have adopted "White Supremacy" and instituted it as part of their culture and religion in the last 500 years---because of White's success with it.
Africans from the continent and West Indians need to shut the fuck up about "Black Americans complaining"-----because SOME Africans (the Ethiopians for example) are given everything on a platter by whites when they come here and they are treated as "honorary whites". The Sudanese, however, are "charcoal" in color and are treated the worse. Just ask Nyibol about the Black American kids chasing her home and throwing rocks at her because---they've never seen a person "that black" before. But overall, Africans COME HERE and are given more respect and kissed up to by Whites. So they don't know what the fuck they're talking about.
My only real complaint with Black Americans is that they don't see their responsibility as the "World Leaders" of the Black Race itself, and that they are allowing their self-hatred to lead all of us in the wrong way. Black Americans are reluctant to look in the mirror---to see that they are "not cool"---but self-destructive and are passing this disease to the rest of us, because they refuse to acknowledge that 500 years of "slavery" has made them into "white supremacists" who are against racism.
Africans who come across the ocean also totally ignore the fact that they have an INNER CORE IDENTITY that provides strength and balance that AA's do not have. And this is why Africans and AA's need to LIVE TOGETHER and SOCIALIZE, to strengthen each other and to learn.
Another problem is that MOST "Africans" who come here are from the "upper class"---from wealthy families----so they are "snobs" and they only wish to capitalize off America's wealth, not bond with their bloodberry kinfolk, the Black Americans.
I truly believe that if White Americans had adopted me---I would be either be dead from suicide or I would be Condaleeza Rice. I really wish that African "Adoptees" could all be placed with Black American families like I was....because this would begin to "FUSE" the two continents. I was given ENORMOUS POWER by being raised by Black Americans--because I already had a strong African identity to build on.
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Cynique
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You can flog me if you want to, but I always find what conservative Thomas Sowell has to say very provocative. He makes certain people uncomfortable because there is always a grain of truth in what he says and this infuriates "liberal" or Afro-centric blacks because it's not politically correct to blow the game and challenge the "official" line of those who depend upon racism to advance their causes and maintain their leadership. But, if anybody has ever watched Jerry Springer and seen these red necks and heard them talk, and gotten glimpses of their lifestyle, then you have to know why they are such an embarassment to white America who regard them as white scum. The "peckerwood" element of white people have been around since slavery days, so is it that far-fetched to think that blacks would've absorbed the ways of the people who, like then, wallowed in the dregs of poverty and degradation. And when poor black folks would migrate north, is it so inconceivable that they would bring their backward ways with them when they settled into the crowded inner cities? Yes, some were able to escape the ghettos and go on to lead better lives. Or is this to say that all southern blacks were of the same caliber. Representing the other side of the coin were the blacks who, rather than imitating white trash, emulated white aristocracy, and they became the ones who comprised southern black society with its snobbery and color caste system. So, in a way, it really is a class issue. True enough, Sowell should've noted that how racism rears its ugly head is if these whites can clean up their acts, they can go out into conventional society and advance as far as they are capable of going; whereas blacks can't do this. But I agree that there is a commonality between black and whites who languish at the bottom of the economic totem pole and that blacks learned trifling ways from the red necks to whom such slack behavior came natural; which was why they were red necks in the first place. I believe black historian Timuel Black advanced a theory simliar to this. When Sowell gripes about attempts to glorify and preserve a negative black life style, he is undoubtedly referring to the Rap culture that is perceived as being uniquely black and, therefore, not be "tampered" with. But it's no crime to not be a fan of Rap. So, Kola and Chris Hayden and anyone else, you can rant all you want. I confess. When it comes to many areas, I am liberal and even radical, but a conservative streak has always tempered my outlook because I don't want to be trapped in any one mind-set. For this, I make no apologies. |
Kola_boof
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But Cynique...haven't you noticed that in many ways, I too, am very conservative?
I think most of us here are more SIMILAR than different. Troy Johnson likes SOWELL a lot, too.
I don't like him because of an essay he wrote about Black Women in 1880's New England----"not reporting their rapes by white men and therefore liking it/consenting to it".
That's where my disgust from him stems.
After that--his negative writings about women in Africa (basically saying that we're MADE for servitude and the invaders just took advantage of that)....really puts him beyond the pale for me.
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Abm
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Cynique,
Being a shill for the biases of wealthy White foks is as easy as it is lucrative. It’s like shooting lame crabs in a barrel.
All you really have to do is argue the exact office of whatever Black and liberal White Civil Rights leaders advocate and you’ve hit paydirt city.
What always fascinates me about the Sowells of the world is they act as those THEY are the ONLY Black foks who have everything figured out and that the +90% rest of us who voted against Bush are just plain clueless.
The truth is the only reason anyone gives a dayam about what they have to say is they the select few of us who are willing to lick the Hershey Highway of bigots. |
Cynique
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 11:19 am: |
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ABM, I stil regard Sowell as a very objective, bona fide intellectual, as opposed to certain other black conservatives. You couch your dismissal of him in cleverly-worded scorn, but you never gave a rebuttal to what he said in the article. What about it don't you agree with?? |
A_womon
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very innnnnnnteressting.........! |
Abm
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Cynique,
I was not referring so much to the article above as I was about what I’ve witnessed of Sowell and his kind in general.
But, okay. Riddle me this, Batgirl:
Is Sowell HONESTLY trying to assert that the only or primarily form of “redneck” culture that prevails is amongst BLACKS? If so, I suggest he have an eye exam.
Has he been in Appalachia? Has he visited the thousands of American trailer parks?
Has he watched the Jerry Springer Show?
Because there still are MILLIONS of rednecks in almost EVERY state in this country. There are parts of the US that are almost entirely White where unemployment and drop-out rates are a bad as those in ‘da hood’.
Why do you think we spend more money subsidizing OBSELETE White family farms than we do on Welfare?
But Sowell doesn’t benefit from talking about poor, unproductive Whites. Because NOBODY...especially WHITES…wanna hear anything about that.
And WHO are these “many people” who view the ghetto to be the only authentic manifestation of Black culture, anyway? White foks?
Because the MAJORITY of Black people are gainfully employed, are functionally literate and live fairly moderate – if not conservative – lifestyles. And were not confused by who/what we are…because were living it.
The perception of Blacks being thoroughly ‘ghetto’ is a ruses used largely by White media to cow Blacks and delude, manipulate and pilfer from bigoted/ignorant Whites.
And that’s just a small part of what Sowell said. I could rip his $#@+ to shreds any day of the week (and thrice MLK Birthday).
It’s not the lies the Devil tells that does you in. Rather, it’s the fallacies, half-truths and omissions he wields that kill you.
PS: I’d LOVE to match wits with Sowell. Because he’s as obvious as a hooker on a midnight street corner. |
Cynique
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ABM, Sowell said that the "red neck" culture originated in a certain segment of the population of white America, and he did acknowledge that it is still around today, presumably in the places that you named. He also said that "red neckism" was brought to this country by certain European colonists. His point was that the term "red neck" can be defined as a pattern of behavior and a way of life that can exist in a segment of any race, in any place. And if you think that what Sowell said about red neckism existing in the ghettos is in error, then you are in denial. Why do you think the black community, itself, continues to bewail the negative, low-life element in the inner cities. And the "they" who condone and call for the preservation of the ghetto gangsta culture as it is represented in Rap, are the people who perpetuate it for profit and gain. I consider Thomas Sowell to be one of the more original thinkers around today. He rankles his detractors because the constructive criticism he voices goes against the grain of those spokesmen who advance the same ol standby arguments that excuse rather than solve problems. I welcome this different point of view as espoused by Sowell.
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Abm
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 02:45 pm: |
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Cynique,
I only read what was posted on the thread. And I responded to that, which included...
"Today, the last remnants of that culture can still be found in the worst of the black ghettos, whether in the North or the South, for the ghettos of the North were settled by blacks from the South."
I interpreted that to mean that Blacks are, by Sowell's definition/argument, the only remaining "rednecks". And THAT I patently disagree with.
And he said "The counterproductive and self-destructive culture of black rednecks in today's ghettos is regarded by many as the only "authentic" black culture--and, for that reason, something not to be tampered with. Their talk, their attitudes, and their behavior are regarded as sacrosanct..."
And my response is by WHOSE perspective is he judging?
If you look from the perspective of Whites who have historically been profoundly ignorant of most issues concerning AA's, I'd agree he's largely correct. But that's not the opinion of all, or even most, Blacks that I know. Must of us know that that is largely what Whites want to think of Blacks so that they can feel justified in maintaining the racial/wealth/power status quo.
I didn't read more than that because Sowell rant is as boring as it is predictable. But if you can think of anything you think that (effectively) support Sowell's (and I'll presume to be your) position, please present them. |
Kola_boof
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 02:49 pm: |
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But the BOTTOM LINE Great Mother, Cynique-----is that anyone who takes the time to actually READ his many books----can't help but notice that his regard for "black people" is not only low, but in curious alignment with those White folks who write things like "The Bell Curve". Sowell really is that bad.
I find it stunning that people like Troy Johnson overlook this just because he's a great economist and a smart man.
And Sowell's writings about his own hardworking mother (a maid)---and about black women and white men's relations in times when black women had NO RIGHTS, not even ownership of their bodies-----and his flat out lies about African women's history......which in turn points out that Blacks COME FROM NOTHING (a backwards jungle doormat) and therefore.....will never be anything like his two pets....the European and the Asian.
Sowell's thinking isn't "original"---not if you've ever read anything the FOREFATHERS and architects of White Culture have written.
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And let's not forget that 25 years ago.....ALL BLACK PEOPLE were from the Ghetto. Less 3 or 4%
And let's not forget that 100 years ago...after the SOUTHERN BLACKS flooded into the major cities.....they too turned up their noses at the people still living in the South and derisively referred to them as....."country"......."You so country"......."BAMA"......."dat nigga is a bama"-----she AKT "so country".
So this ugliness in blacks is nothing new.
CITY AFRICANS make fun of and discriminate against RURAL AFRICANS ("jungle trash")...but of course, it's those ignornant, pretentious CITY FOLKS that are selling out and destroying everything that is African.
NEW WAYS...but love stays.
Sowell is a big black waterbug, who, like so many NEW DEAL Black men....makes his fortune as a modern day "OVER-SEER" and general...sucker of white men's dicks.....because....that's what his mother raised him to be and sent him to university to become---as so many Black mothers do.
At least Stanely Crouch, in all his hatred for his own race (they won't let him be the Patriarch), also makes it clear that he despises WHITES and all people equally.
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Abm
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Kola,
I agree. I have NO doubt in my mind that Sowell view the average White person to be superior to the average Black person.
And he may APPEAR original in his thinking. But, yes, there've been guys like him around since the European first landed in Africa (you do a splendid job describing such in your wonderful "Flesh and the devil".)
And don't mind Troy.
He's a biznaz man. He's probably applying in his dealings with the Sowell's of the world that great strategy that was described by Don Michael Corleone in the Godfather II, "Keep you friends close and your enemies CLOSER".
Side's. Just because you study and admire tactics used by Alexander the Great does not mean one intends to kill/rape/pillage Canadians. |
Kola_boof
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Post Number: 227
Registered: 02-2005
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Oh, I know, ABM.
What I love about Troy Johnson is that he tries to include and respect EVERYBODY'S opinion and point of view....and he's been one of my biggest supporters, despite the fact that he's really not in agreement with MOST of what I say or do.
I think his parents raised him to love Africa so deeply, however, that he forces himself to embrace me.
He's a cutie pie, too!!
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Kola_boof
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Post Number: 228
Registered: 02-2005
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Beloved Mother, Cynique SAID regarding "Thomas Sowell":
he gets disgusted with his race for not living up to its potential.
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NO...his point (in his many books) is that Blacks simply are not and never have been equal to Whites and Asians.
He writes this cold, clinically, without emotion---supposedly documenting historical data about blacks IN ALL HIS WORK...and always pointing out that we are...
..in our rightful place.
He's one of those EVOLUTIONISTS who thinks that Whites and Asians have genetically surpassed blacks...and that this is just natural order of things.
Go read his early books ESPECIALLY.
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Cynique
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Post Number: 2217
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If an alien from a foreign plantet came to earth and viewed this world from a totally objective perspective, who is to say that he wouldn't reach the same conclusion as Sowell.
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Abm
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Post Number: 2470
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Cynique,
Perhaps.
However, ET might also figure the Dolphin is superior to all of us since it's the only animal that has a brain's that proportionately larger than that of a human being.
Whatever.
But I'll say this: Thank GOD Sojourner Truth, Harriet Tubman and Frederick Douglas didn't think such drivel. Otherwise you'd the unpaid mammy of some snotnose White kids, and Sowell would be roasting his black@$$ off in a cottonfield. |
Kola_boof
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Post Number: 229
Registered: 02-2005
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And dolphins....are the only SEA MAMMAL that have "sex" for pleasure....and not merely for procreation as sharks, whales, tuna, squid, turtles, frogs and others do.
It's also my favorite animal and dolphins are in all my work.
Thanks for mentioning their superiority ABM.
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Abm
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Post Number: 2472
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Kola,
You're welcome. I love dolphins too.
Did you know that Dolphins are also the only other animal that is inately protective of human beings. They've been observed fighting-off sharks to protect capsized sea travelers.
I truly believe there are some things going on with Dolphins that are positively divine. |
Cynique
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Post Number: 2219
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ABM says:
..."Thank GOD Sojourner Truth, Harriet Tubman and Frederick Douglas didn't think such drivel. Otherwise you'd the unpaid mammy of some snotnose White kids, and Sowell would be roasting his black@$$ off in a cottonfield."
Cynique says:
I doubt it. Slavery would've eveutally died out because of industrialization and America's desire to be the moral leader of the world. And Frederick Douglas with his white wife/mistress is probably Sowell's hero. |
Cynique
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Post Number: 2220
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Dolphins are remarkable creatures but they don't run countries or control nations. And through out the universe, that which dominates is that which controls and thrives. |
Ladyt2005
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Chris, you are asking some of the same questions i ask myself.
In my opinion, black folks say oh well cause they don't know what else to say. not to make that an excuse cause believe me its not. But what real leadership does this generation of black men and women have.NONE! This whole generation is guided by the money is power therory. They think just cause they got it that makes them somebody and do whatever it takes to get it even if it is turning your back and saying oh well or its not my problem. And another thing there are no more real communitys the only time you see a group of neighbors get together to do anything is when the news crews are out and somebody just got hurt or killed. Nobody in this generation has any real care anymore if you aint talkin money you aint talkin about nothig and thats real fucked up (excuse my language) but it is. Its a shame you could go out and rape somebodys child and they'll be willing to turn the other cheek if you throw a couple thousand in there face. You can't deny without a doubt that you have to have money in todays america but the way in which this generation handles that is disgusting. Oh Well is the national anthem. Justice is only called on when you can't get that paper.The intelligence that our old black leaders had has been lost or is in hiding. People especially my black people need a real reality check.And fast. |
West_africa
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Post Number: 49
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1. "Willie Lynch", both the letter and the persona, is a forgery.
2. Michael Jackson has done more in his life for African-Americans, despite his recent difficulties, than most of his critics put together will ever do, even if they never have his difficulties.
3. As far as Thomas Sowell is concerned, most of what he says could not stop an excellent person from manifesting excellence in action, and "Kola Boof" is clearly quite regularly as guilty of cultural indiscretion as Sowell has been of cultural insensitivity.
4. It would be more constructive to attempt a valid and more thorough examination of Sowell before resolving to opinions.
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Cynique
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Post Number: 2490
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What, for example, has Michael Jackson done in his life for African Americans that is more than what his critics have done, West Africa? Does his pop music neutralize his obvious rejection of his blackness??? |
West_africa
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Post Number: 76
Registered: 08-2005
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Michael Jackson is an excellent person. |
Renata
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Post Number: 70
Registered: 08-2005
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LOL.
Just came here to inform you all that I have a bridge for sale. West_A, make me an offer. |
West_africa
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Post Number: 84
Registered: 08-2005
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Michael Jackson's detractors are, almost every one of them, parasites.
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Renata
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Post Number: 78
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Considering the source, all I can say is....thanks. |
West_africa
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Post Number: 86
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To "Renata" : You are more than welcome. |
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