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Libralind2
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Posted on Friday, March 25, 2005 - 07:51 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

While our rights are being trampled daily by folks who could care less about average citiznes let alone black folks I wonder..who will save US from THEM..? Would Kadifi step in..? Castro..? Blair..? Anydambody.?
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Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2005 - 11:00 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Libralind2:

You live in the most powerful nation that has ever existed in the history of the world. Anybody who even speaks out risks getting overthrown or blown off the face of the earth. What they just did to Saddam they can do to all but a handful of nations on this planet--

I guess that answers your questions--eh?
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Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2005 - 01:51 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Scary.
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Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2005 - 06:31 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

What Cynique said..whew.
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Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2005 - 06:42 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So sorry to say this, as I know it will annoy...

but since I've actually worked for Moamar Khadafi

author of his own bible, "The Green Book"--- a comical man who takes pleasure in urinating in the mouths of his young Nieces

...I am SO GLAD that I don't live in a country run by him and his sort. Give me America any day.

Please don't be mad at me Cynique and Chris Hayden---I adore both your opinions and greatly admire you as people

---but I still don't get what is so bad about America IN COMPARISON to the other nations of the world. They are 500 times more corrupt!! I nearly fainted in disbelief when I found out that the U.S. actually has "rape" laws on paper---and recourse laws against police brutality. I don't get you guys.

And if Libralind2 is a black woman...would she REALLY want to live in Castro's CUBA?

You should read Marita Golden's new book "Don't Play In the Dark".

Places like CUBA and BRAZIL are only good for black people if they're RICH and preferrably "from America". Just like Europe.

It's amazing how we romanticize these horrible, hiddeous countries---including most of the ones in Africa.

You don't see my ass going back to Africa, do you?


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Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2005 - 07:25 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola,

Even 'Hell' is a 'relative' concept, I suppose.
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Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2005 - 08:14 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

True dat ABM.

I think that because I have lived in so many other countries, I see differently.

I truly believe that Chris and Cynique would see it more as....."The Whole Planet is a Toilet Bowl"...than just "Mean Evil America" if they actually lived in foreign countries with the same LEVEL OF POLITICAL PARTICIPATION as they do in the U.S..

And I actually consider Europe and the U.S. one nation. Because it really is THE WHITE PEOPLE against the REST of the world.

WHITES don't have the genetic strength to stand up against the rest of the planet....so they are in a position where they are FORCED to divide, CONTROL and "dilute" the majority in order for their race to survive. For instance, they can turn many Latinos and Bi-Racials into WHITE PEOPLE over time through re-mixing...so this is why they sell bastardization to other groups.

The WHITES were also the very first race on earth to be born in a situation where they had to fight and destroy another "species" of Human.....the NEANDERTHALS.

The Caucasoids spent two thousand years at war---in a battle for Europe---and they eventually exterminated the NEANDERTHAL species from the earth. After that...they had became GENIUSES of mental strategy and war....and turned their AGGRESSION to world travel for the purpose of "conquering and discovering" others.

This whole world problem is rooted in White Aggression and their NEED to dominate the planet for survival.

I applaud the WHITE RACE for their accomplishments and don't hate them, because I totally understand what they are trying to do...and for the love of their children....they HAVE TO do it.

My complaint has been MY RACE and its failure to do likewise.

So I see America as the "capital" of the White Race and EUROPE as the torso.

Only Far Asia, Africa and the Arab Middle East can pose a REAL threat to White Supremacy----and Africa is the weakest continent on earth, truly the least prepared to stand up for itself.



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Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2005 - 09:54 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I just picked up two Nuruddin Farah books over the weekend and I've already started "Links," which I believe is his most recent. It's about a Somali expatriate who returns to the country from Queens NY after having been imprisoned there twenty years earlier. It's studded with epigraphs from Dante's Inferno, in fact, before the civil war, the main character, Jeeblah, did his dissertation on Dante's Inferno, translating the epic into a Somali idiom. His two former close friends were a Somali studying medicine and an Irishmen working on a postgraduate degree in Italian (hence another level of discussion about Dante). It also contains fables and folktales about war, hell, etc., but also sayings like "A night has two faces; a face that's visible in the light and a face that's ensconsed in the mystery of the unexplored." I've only read about 70 pages so far, but besides the tragic violence, there's a kind of poetry to the novel that really appeals to me and I have no problem identifying with the main character Jeeblah who has a very humane voice in a situation where fear is palpable. Anyway, I also picked up Secrets which our gentle moderator mentioned earlier.

Here's the essay in which I first heard about Links (you might not agree with it but it might be pertinent to the discussion and it also puts the novel in context):

Hitler was the last of the formidable and self-declared tribalists; he embodied the great demon of xenophobia. But men like Stalin and Pol Pot were of the same cloth. Latin Americans have known these things for a long time, even if they have flirted with the narrows of Marxism because it sounds so goddam good on paper. Novels such as Alejo Carpentier's Reasons of State and Gabriel Garcia Marquez's Autumn of the Patriarch (an extended improvisation on the film Citizen Cane) set high standards for the examination of dictatorships and the cultural complexity composed of Indian, European, and African mixes. The Chinese who went through the Cultural Revolution know what a monster Mao was and how easily -- or cleverly or dangerously -- xenophobia can put on the mask of communist revolution, dehumanizing and murdering those it defines as opponents on the basis of class and education. We can be sure that China will produce its own Milan Kundera and give us the human meanings of totalitarianism in a Far Eastern mode.

Africans who create their own killing fields along tribal lines are part of the same monstrous crew. Rwanda is no joke, nor are those rebel kids running around with guns and either mutilating or kidnapping girls who become sex slaves. These are supremely brutal children, no more, no less. Color has nothing to do with it. Whatever they are, these savage young men are not embarrassments or proof of African inferiority. They prove that Africans are human, just as the endlessly bloody Greek myths make clear what human beings have to fight against in order to arrive at a civilized level of understanding. African writers are now challenged to go beyond propaganda, the blame game, and the fear of feeding stereotypes. They have to deal with their backward ideas about women, their corrupt military dictatorships, and tribalism -- the father of all racism. In that regard, Nuruddin Farah's new novel, Links, is an important contemporary work because he stares the African dragon in the mouth and spares nothing, African or not, as he looks into the rampaging mysteries and horrors of Somalia. Good for him and good for us.


Just a gentle reminder that Marita Golden's book is called Don't Play in the Sun, not Don't Play in the Dark, but rather than call it a Freudian slip, look at it from a different perspective. Dilution is a black fear, mongrelization is a white fear. I've come across this topic in my reading, but since I have no background in psychology, rather than discuss it, I'd like to look through my books to see if I can remember where I read it. However, I think it's interesting that Marita says it this way: that "most of us in America are racial mongrels. It is estimated, for example, that 40 percent of 'White' Americans have 'Black' ancestors that they know nothing of or choose not to acknowledge." Who do you think she's addressing that to? I think she's saying it to the white people reading her book (nothing wrong with that).

Personally, I feel that talking about this stuff is too provocative. I guess that's why I read so many books, it's much better to discuss a book. Talk to ya on the other board. Thanks.
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Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2005 - 10:23 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Steve,

Don't feel bad. MOST PEOPLE are afraid to really talk openly about this "provocative stuff".

And while I greatly admire Nurudin Farah and am an advocate for his work....AND share a mutual close friend with him....I've always maintained that Farah is the "colorstruck" version of Kola Boof, as he IS a traditional Somali of the Mulatto Set--albeit, a very brilliant, important and sexy man. Son of a bitch.

I always LOVE your posts, Steve--because you are the type of READER that we writers NEED and DREAM about. You make a true commitment to the text and are intelligent and sensitive enough to glean much of the "meant" threads in the fabric. That's very good and I respect you so much---and even like you, slightly.

MUCH of what was said in the "Essay" introducing LINKS has already been said on these boards....BY ME.

And you really should read Farah's book "GIFTS"...in which he basicall reiterates all that I've said on this thread about the WORLD situation.

My favorite book by Farah is "SECRETS".

I am "Sholoongo", my love--although Farah's hatred for black women and his sexism don't dare do justice to her voice at the very end, which was my only let down with the book. Of course, you being a WHITE MAN Steve, will probably read the book feeling that Farah is surprisingly Non-Sexist and in fact loves Black Women. I disagree.

But "SECRETS" is my very favorite--if for no other reason than it disproves this ridiculous notion that Europeans introduced Africans to "homosexuality", etc.. And Nurudin Farah is very "freaky" like me. We are a lot alike.

Read that one, Steve.



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Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 12:53 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Rally around the flag, Kola, and favor us with a chorus of The Star Spangled Banner. Your defense of a country that you are constantly defiling because of its racism that spawns the colorism that is such an anathema to you is a little curious. But I guess your patriotic loyalty to a country that reeks with hypocrisy shouldn't be surprising because you are a hypocrit, yourself.
I realize that America is the best country in the
world to live in. It is also the most powerful country in the world and power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
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America is no more RACIST than any of the other nations in the world, Cynique. You really don't know what you're talking about. There was a time when Black Americans would go to places like France--and because they could eat in restaurants and sleep with WHITE people, they declared that it wasn't "racist"----but that's bullshit. It's just a different kind of racism, but France is EVERY BIT as racist as the U.S. And so is the rest of the world.

Now when you aquire the courage to DEFECT from this country....or to take the stands in public that I have taken, risking life and limb...then I "might" listen to your crow-footed bullshit. But until then, you really need to get a Passport.

Racism and colorism are GLOBAL diseases---not American ones. And hypocrisy is mankind's middle name, not America's.

What I am smart enough to know...is that Africa can only rise from America. And I can do a hell of a lot more OVER HERE for my people and my continent than I, as a woman, could do back home---where I would have no voice and no power.





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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Giving a good reason as opposed to a real reason; a familiar tactic of hypocrits like you.So carry on Joan of Arched eyebrows. I am a partisan. I am not a grandstander seeking fame and attention, fronting a hopeless cause. If people were in office whose philosophy I and millions of other Democrats and Independents agreed with, we would not all be criticizing this country so much. I hate the conservative right-wing neo fascists who comprise the leadership in this country.
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Also, I never said America was the most racist country in the world. That's something you fabricated in order to try and make your point. You keep bragging about how smart you are. You are also crazy. You have a borderline psychopathic personality and suffer from delusions of grandeur and manic-depression. ROTFLOL
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Kola: I didnt say I wanted or that WE as Black Americans should GO anywhere. My comments were " Who will SAVE us from this country as they continually trample over our RIGHTS". I wanted to engage in a thoughtful argument about what and who would SAVE us as this country looks like it is under seige much like countries you site as "worse" than US. AND so you dont confuse my comments I will be even more clear. Im not trying to move ANYWHERE but I want to be FREE as it states in the constitution to live the way I want PERIOD. I see that right being destroyed daily much like it is in the countries that THIS country is overthrowing and surplanting "democracy". If it wasnt so serious it would be almost funny. I also only used names of men no matter the atrocites they have committed, as examples of men in power who could look at what we are going through to say they NEED to save us. One could make the arguement the powers in this country are no better than a Castro, Kadifi etc. Bush as Governor signing a bill that allows a power (hospital) to have more rights than a mother is obscene in my view.
I also agree with Cynique's comments in terms of criticizing this out of control government.
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Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 12:52 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Another thought: Do you really want the religious right dictating policy for you as a black person.?I certainly dont.
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LibraLinda-----

I agree with you completely...."NOW"....that you have named specific groups in the "government" that I am also against and oppose. You did not do that before, you just said "America" needs to be saved by Khadafi, Castro, etc.

Those men are worse than Bush. YES..."worse" than Bush.

And I would rather deal with a White President who can be voted out...than a Colored Dictator who can't be voted out....any day---but living in America all your life, you wouldn't understand why that is.

Foreign leaders can do nothing about America, because they're too corrupt and too much LIKE the oppressor. Everytime we get a "good leader" in Africa...the niggerstock rises up and kills him.

If we really want change....then we should consciously GIVE BIRTH TO THE PEOPLE THAT WE NEED and stop expecting our enemies to "change their ways", because....why should they?

Since we already LIVE HERE...why don't we birth some sons to rise up and conquer this nation from within?

Black Americans could start their own political party and hold this nation hostage if they had sense enough to UNITE.....which was Farrakhan's suggestion and I agree with it. I think it's stupid to remain the DEMOCRATIC party. Blacks should start a party of their own and make demands......but NO.....they're too afraid to be seen as "monolithic" and "separate" from the WE.

Which is slave thinking, but they're so busy driving their Lexus and affording CDs for it that they can't see they're the only group in this country with no unity.

Why should a Foreign Corrupt Government oversees do something that we should be doing for ourselves?

And CORPORATIONS really are the governments now---and are aligned with the White Supremacist Power structure (the U.S. and Europe).

I don't see the RELIGIOUS RIGHT and the REPUBLICANS as truly representative of America. I believe there are more liberals and Democrats and people who feel like we do------they're just not united or inspired to wake up.







Cynique---

I criticize and despise the RIGHT WING NEO FASCISTS just as well as you do. And I can definitely join you in killing off Bush and the Republicans.

Apparently, we have more in common than not.
But you didn't name THOSE factions. You simply named "America"---as if to mean this entire nation should be done away with by some foreign power.

To Me---Bush and the Republicans do not represent this entire nation. They are just the "current" ruling regime, and I agree--they need to be overthrown.
But I would not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

America is salvagable and is NOT the most evil empire on earth by any stretch of the imagination.
And as for your jealous comments directed at me as a person---I try very hard to respect your opinion, but you're really nothing more but a fart-brained old cunt who isn't half the woman I am. And talk about delusions of grandeur. Aren't you the Skeletore looking bitch who carried on an affair ON THIS BOARD with an IMAGINARY ACTOR LOVER?

You need to squat and let it out bitch, because it's starting permeate Ye 'Ole Pores.

And I'm not your goddamned mouse, Cat-Fink.

My opinion is just as good as yours----and instead of talking shit (like you do)----my life has been about "action" that causes results and ignites discussion.

Now lick that stamp and stick it on your forehead and mail your Geritol-prescription ass to the nearest sunday BINGO before struggling with that keyboard kicks in your arthritis.


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Kola,

I think it would be safe for me to concede that most of us who complain about the US prefer living here to any place else, otherwise many of us would have emigrated elsewhere.

But you don’t judge America by comparison to other countries. You judge it by the standards/criteria as set forth by its own laws, culture and people which, that reputes to advocate the opportunity of abounding “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” for all.

So the reason WHY America remains superior to those other countries you favorably contrast it with is because of much of the criticism Cynique, Chris and Libralind2 express about it as it apparently fails to achieve its very own mission. And, believe me, were certain forces unmitigatedly permitted to reign over the rest of us, America might indeed be quite similar to Cuba and Libya.


PS: The frost has broken, the birds are chirping, the grass is growing and Kola and Cynique are squabbling. Ahhhhh, what joy be Spring!
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ABM---I agree with your analogy, but you must concede that none of my buddies presented it THAT WAY.

They simply said that America is an evil empire with too much power and that places like "Cuba" and "Libya" and "China" should stand up and do something.

And I DO know where Chris Hayden, especially is coming from and I greatly respect anything that Chris has to say, however...

Saddam Hussein is the same man who---during a meeting of the Iraqi Congress----had soldiers to come in and execute 47 members of the congress.....only those who "disagreed" with him.

It was FILMED and can be watched.

In Libya---the Government set 1,250 "retarded" children on fire, burning them alive to avoid Medical Care.

In Palestine, "black" women are routinely sterilized to keep the Palestinians from returning to their original color......throughout North Africa, "black" women are RAPED daily and have no legal recourse, because black women are "born prostitutes" according to government officials who've been asked to make laws protecting the 12 and 14 yr. old African girls who routinely work as IN-HOUSE maids to Arab women (where do you think "Black" Arabs come from?).......the jails of Egypt, Libya, Palestine and Sudan are overflowing with "Black Men".......

Iraq has 8 million Black African citizens, all of whom are descendents of the slaves who came through the Basra Slave Port---they have no power in Iraq and no real rights as citizens and MOST are still working as "slaves", unofficially.

I definitely can see the EVIL that America/Europe does in its belief that everybody should be like them. They set up corrupt governments and basically sabotage their "colonies" from ever getting free.

But after spending many years directly involved with the Arab Muslim Imperialist EMPIRE of the middle east.....which is a definite threat to America and to world democracy....I have to choose one devil over the other, and America is not even in League with the level of inhumanity and disregard for people that China, Middle Eastern Nations and other 3rd World Powers carry out on a daily basis.

My ex-boyfriend blew up the World Trade Center and believes that ALL PEOPLE must become "Muslim" OR DIE and that the White Race must be exterminated and that the Black Race was created by Allah to be "SLAVES".

You think Khadafi and Castro believe something different?

No America CAN NEVER live up to its very own mission. The Caucasoids are a fearful, trembling, soul-eating, barbarian race of Human Beings. It's my hope that we Africans (including the Black Americans who are also Africans, IMO) will someday be victorious agains them.

But they are not the worst. And if America were to fall today----we would all be doomed, worldwide.

We need to USE this country to our own ends---but most of the black people here see themselves as A PART of the fabric of the nation, while I see this country as nothing more than a TOOL that can be used for us to rise up out of. I don't see America as "Mines". It belongs to the Whites, most definitely---and just as the Black Americans let the Latinos come in and take over their Status and outnumber them---they have also let the Whites destroy the "image" of their ancestors and bastardize their culture to the point of no return.

JAZZ is now a white man's music. Mariah Carey and Christina Augilerra are now the "Queens of Soul" and Bill Clinton is the first Black President---Michael Jackson solidifies it all "symbolically"---and Hip Hop Culture feeds kills off whatever part of the natural black man's brain is left.

So I choose to USE America to my own ends. As a place to plant a seed, and a place to be heard by my people----even if they're not ready to accept the words of a "crazy, bossy black woman."






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Kola:

Your view of things may be shaped by the experience of living in California.

America ain't New York or California.

Here in St. Louis, thanks to our wonderful Constitution, we get to enjoy a radio program called "The Right at Night" hosted by leaders of the Council of Conservative Citizens (was the White Citizens Council)

http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=500

In between calling blacks animals and genetically inferior, they dismiss any black callers with the admonition similar to yours which boils down to "If you don't like it here, go someplace else--we ain't gonna change nothing the way we do and so you gotta take it and like it."

This is not what Martin Luther King accepted. This is not what they teach you in school to accept. This is not what you would accept.

You need to come out here and live in what they call the Heartland for a while. I think it would be an eye opener.

Telling me I don't want to live under Muammar Ghadaffi is like a man beating up his wife and, when she excepts to this behavior, telling her,"Well, you're lucky you don't live with Frank. He'd kill you."

I don't know what it is like living in another country. As Abm said, I am upset when my own country, that I am a citizen of, born and bred here, beats its breast and says it is non racist and then is.

Blaming the George Bush administration for these problems and thinking they will go away when he is gone is like the bull being distracted by the cape and not noticing the matador. These guys are not some aberration. They are not operating on their own.

People forget how Bill Clinton pandered to these people. How he allowed a retarded black man to be executed so he could be president. How he practically raped Sister Souljah and abandoned Lani Guineer.

His wife is even now cozying up to them.

One may argue that they represent the future. They certainly think so.
They are in fact a very logical extension of powerful forces in this country that have been here since its inception.

How soon we forget--did Martin Luther King and Malcolm X just fall over and die?
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Great points, Chris.

Thanks my love.


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I'm not going to argue anymore, because I now get the feeling that ALL OF US are basically on the same page----and are just squabbling of "semantics".

We all hate the Bush Regime and the Republicans and we all want fairness for the LITTLE PEOPLE of the third world, and particularly, for our own homeland.

I admit to being confused when people only use the word "America" to describe their outrage---because to me, America is leaps and bounds better than any other nation on earth, living-wise and politically.

We have street sweepers here--every American has cable----there are Rape laws, Child Protection laws----you get to have a NEW TRIAL in America---you have Condoms and EMERGENCY ROOMS

no one burns my books here,

I can say what I want and no rich man can pick me off the street and kidnap me with the police and whole town knowing about it and simply looking the other way.

There is separation of Church and State here!

If I don't want to get married---I don't have to.

If I go on t.v. and trash BUSH and his administration---I'm free to do so without my tongue being removed or my children being drowned.

I love America.




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Posted on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 01:00 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And just to make things complete, Kola Nut, I would simply respond to your closing remarks in the last post addressed to me, better Geritol than Prozac, or whatever it is you take in a desperate effort to control your multiple personality disorder, an affliction which undoubtedly accounts for your speaking out of both sides of your mouth.
Note: in lieu of further insults, I advise all interested parties to check out that Geek Gallery our favorite egomaniac feels the need to inflict on others, a display that could be captioned "how a cabbage patch doll evolved into a zombie."
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Posted on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 01:15 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, at least I'm a DOLL

and not a thatch of Broom Bristles, Cynique.









And don't be mad me just because you let Mama Linda HOT COMB your head and she caught the back of your head.

hotcomb

hotcomb

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Still sore CYNIQUE?

cynique


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Chris and ABM, thanks to both of you for so eloquently putting things into perspective. I agree that our government is a 2-headed dragon and that the Democrats aren't really any better than the Republicans but I have a personal dislike for the smug, steely-eyed, tight-lipped demeanor of right-wingers who are almost sinister in their rigid beliefs, - who think that they have a monopoly on God and that He is always on America's side. And to our born-again patriot Kola, aka "Lady Liberty" Boof, how can people not feel a tad cynical about a country where Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln are held in such high esteem in spite of the fact that eliminating slavery was not something either of them was sincere about and - that the negative aftermath of slavery is what continues to hinder the progress of African Americans, or - how that infamous confederate banner continues to wave on the flag poles of our southern states
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You know you got those pictures from your family album, Kola. I'm surprised your relatives get their hair done, I would think they'd wear those awful looking mop-head wigs you plop on top of your pointed head.
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Posted on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 01:58 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

In all fairness to Cynique:

Just a few years ago...."I" faced DEPORTATION after being identified as a "possible Terrorist" and was forced, at the worst time, to reveal my involvement with Osama Bin Laden. My American parents had their home ramshackled and ripped apart by Fed Agents and my children began wetting the bed as a psychological reaction.

This, obviously, reveals something as to why Kola would want to praise America as much as possible.

If I was to leave here....a gang of enemies are waiting to behead me--the Sudan Gov. is offering a REWARD to the Muslim who brings back my head in a bag.

So obviously, I cannot leave the country and it's in my best interest to use this country to my advantage and have a good relationship---much the way Marlene Dietrich found herself in the mid 1930's.

BUT:

In 2011 when the South Sudan becomes its own country, the SPLA (at the recommendation of the U.S. State Department) has already asked me to offically become "Queen Kola", the Queen of Sudan---which is a title that carries no power other than Ambassadorship and Representation of the South. This would allow them to present me to the Media and use my "AMerican-ness" in speaking as an ADVOCATE for their government. I would not be involved in the governing of NEW KUSH (S. Sudan), but I would be a "FIGURE-HEAD" based in America to travel and do their bidding.

Because I don't trust AMERICA....I have not agreed to become OFFICIAL in that way until I see HOW the SPLA rules over New Kush.

So this, Cynique...is why you see me making my love for America loud and clear.

FOR MY CHILDREN'S PROTECTION AND MY OWN.



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Posted on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 02:19 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

In other words you're a phony. And it's too bad your love for white America doesn't extend to its black citizens. Then maybe you wouldn't feel the need to constantly criticize and demean them.
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Posted on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 02:23 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

In all truthfulness....for what I have done/accomplished in the SPLA.....I deserve to be made a GENERAL or given actual political office.

But try telling the men that.

This is another reason I am reluctant to become a Figure Head.

BUT ON THE FLIP SIDE:

After being put up for adoption...it would serve my Egyptian family right that I return to them as "QUEEN of SUDAN".

Not to mention all the Arab men who used my body and disrespected me and considered me "black trash".....and who now can't believe I've done so much to destroy their governments. Imagine them having to attend Government Functions and having to endure the CEREMONIAL entrances of the "Queen of New Kush"---having to kiss my hand, bow politely and LISTEN to my rantings.

Their Best Whore.

Huhn.


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Posted on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 02:24 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well only an idiot like YOU Cynique---could surmise that I have any love for WHITE AMERICA and fail to see my obsessive love for BLACK AMERICANS.

You're such a stupid jealous bitch.




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And I maintain...that I'm very proud of myself.

And that I believe 100% in what I'm doing.


Now seal THAT under your dentures.

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Kola: Please go back and read my posts. I never ever said Cuba, China Russia whoever "should" do anything. Your missing MY point. My point is ::sigh:: since OUR (that would be black folks) rights continue to be trampled on (see Im consistant when Im trying to get my point across)what (maybe this is better) country would step in (if they had to) and save us..? You know like the white men who have all the power keep doing to countries like Iraq. A report came out and the Urban League had a "light bulb" moment and are thinking "well DAMMMMM there are too many black men in prison..we better do something". I will post it as it speaks to MY concern.
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Posted on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 06:11 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

As I said, I agree with you LIBRALINDA2, and now that I understand what Chris Hayden and Cynique are saying---I agree with them, too.

That was my point.

I really was not "getting" the specifics--as we all feel the same way about BUSH, the RIGHT WING and the POLITICAL VAMPIRES of America.

I thought you guys meant lets just help those foreign countries Destroy America.

If we did...then I would not have anywhere safe to hide or protect my children. And I like living in America. Which was my original rebuttal.

But now I understand what Chris and Cynique are saying. Sorry.









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You ain't doin nothin but emitting a lot of hot air and making videos of yourself. What's that to be proud of???? Jealous of you? No way. I don't want to be on an Arab hit list, or have a boyfriend who's fed up with me. I will, however, admit it's rather stupid of me to waste my time arguing with a deranged ditz who proclaims her love for white America and its black citizens in one breath, and then talks about colonialism and racism and colorism and white suprememacy and brain-washing and sorry assed black men in the next breath. Am I a bitch? No. Super bitch? Yes. Stick that up your slashed twat. Heh-heh.
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Libralind 2. After this exchange between me and Kola, I know you think I'm naughty. I am, but with great effort, I can also be nice. Anyway, I always enjoy your posts, and find you to be very reasonable and intelligent. :-)
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Posted on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 09:21 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola: Im happy we are now on the same page.
Cynique: I have read the exchanges between you and Kola for sometime before I finally worked up the "nerve" to start posting.::smile::

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