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Roxie
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Roxie
Post Number: 678
Registered: 06-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 11:31 am: | 
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It's always ben aknowledged that bands like the rolling stones, aerosmith and the Beatles have fans under 30 who've listened to their music with their parents. So how are black youths any diferent?
Why can't we like the music our parents played around us too, like Stevie Wonder,Gloria Jones or Donna Summer?
I don't understand why I get so much slack from my peers for liking "old stuff". I even get reactions from older people who think I'm not supposed to have heard of those bands let alone like them.
If it's okay for white kids to listen to classic rock, why is it NOT okay for black kids to listen to classic R&B or funk and more recently classic hip-hop?
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Abm
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Abm
Post Number: 4308
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 11:48 am: |
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Well. Hip-hop has distorted (if not DESTROYED) the music ear of many young Blacks. And, alas, so many young Blacks are NOT being raised by their parents, they probably did not hear and grow to appreciate much of what other kids (including White) parents were grooving to.
So I guess I can understand why many young Blacks you know might have trouble appreciating some of the pre-HH sound.
But any mofo's who will rag on you for digging on Stevie Wonder classics need to back up off the crack pipe some. |
Crystal
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Crystal
Post Number: 264
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 12:21 pm: |
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In the last couple of years my son has grown to appreciate old school music. His current favorite is Bill Withers of "I know, I know, I know ..." fame. There's a guy that sells old school CD's at the gas station on the corner and most of his customers are mid-late 20's and 30's.
An interesting thing in So Cal is going to old school music concerts. The last funk festival I went to all the young people there were Hispanic and there were a lot of them and all the old folks were Black. We all partied and it was great.
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Doberman23
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Doberman23
Post Number: 111
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 12:31 pm: |
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i love hip hop, rap, or what ever you want to call it so i'm not going to say that it's a bad thing. music is one of those things where everyones taste is all over place, your friends will appreciate older music when they are older. (even though i have a 58 year old uncle who has the young jezzy cd) it's a maturation process with taste, you may be just ahead of them. |
Abm
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Abm
Post Number: 4311
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 12:38 pm: |
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Doberman,
Good point. Our tastes do mature and cure as we age. I am much more appreciative of Blues, Jazz, Classical and even some Country music now than I were 10 - 15 years ago. |
Chrishayden
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 1845
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 12:39 pm: |
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Roxie:
You are stereotyping white youth. There are lots of them that don't like those dinosaur bands.
You sound like the old people of my day who kept talking about Nat "King" Cole, the Mills Brothers and the Ink Spots.
It was cool but it had no groove. It was tired. We wanted something else and we got it--the music you are crying about the young folks not appreciating.
They don't want to be in a party with a bunch of fat, tired drunk, dried up bald headed old farts. Same as we didn't.
All generations want their own music. |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 3837
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 01:35 pm: |
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It's not like there aren't young artists out there re-cycling the sounds of the past generation. John Legend who just won the Grammy for best new artist, is a crooner in the great tradition of Marvin Gaye and Luther. Beyonce has slid into Janet Jackson's slot. Alicia Keyes is a cross between Prince and Toni Braxton, Mary J. Blige's improvising style is reminscent of Anita Baker, and Usher is a latter day Michael Jackson. And an aging Mariah Cary still enjoys tremendous popularity among today's young people. The young people around me like both R&B and Rap. |
Prettybabygirl
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Prettybabygirl
Post Number: 258
Registered: 04-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 01:42 pm: |
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I love classic r&b and soul. I even love jazz music from the old days.
I like classic rock too.
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Doberman23
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Username: Doberman23
Post Number: 114
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 02:37 pm: |
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what the hells going on with busta rhymes? i heard that one of fifty cents people tried to kill him and got his body guard was murdered trying to take the weapon. "beef" continues i guess. |
Chrishayden
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 1850
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 04:23 pm: |
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Cynique:
Isn't that Jelly Roll Morton really swinging? |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 3841
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 04:45 pm: |
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It figures you'd like Jelly Roll Morton, chrishayden, since you're so behind the times, that my last post apparently went right over your head. |
Chrishayden
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 1852
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 05:05 pm: |
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Cynique:
I was just trying to mention some music that you would be up on is all. |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 3844
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 05:26 pm: |
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You were doing no such thing, chrishayden. You were miffed because your silly input on the subject started to look so irrelevant that you had to try and draw attention to someone else. (You really think that I could be around 9 grandchildren of all ages and not absorb elements of their culture, dont you.) |
Abm
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Abm
Post Number: 4320
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 05:55 pm: |
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Cynique,
HAHAHAHA!!!
Chris got you on the Jelly Roll Morton thing.
I'm sorry.
HAHAHAHA!!! |
Roxie
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Roxie
Post Number: 680
Registered: 06-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2006 - 08:34 am: |
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Hey Chris:
Do you ever BOTHER to read the entire post? Clearly you don't, cause I never said anything about young people not appreciating the older music.
However, telling by your other comments, YOU sound like one of those people I mentioned in the rest of my posts.
:P
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Yvettep
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Yvettep
Post Number: 866
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2006 - 01:01 pm: |
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I think part of the issue is radio programming. I have heard that in many markets, "old school" local programming is drying up and whole stations disappearing or being re-formatted. Yet in many markets there are still "classic rock" stations, perhaps accounting for the relative enduring popularity of such music.
Maybe the XM-type stations will change this? I only hear these channels at my hair dresser's. I like what I do hear, but I just can't see paying $ for radio right now. |
Schakspir
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Schakspir
Post Number: 175
Registered: 12-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2006 - 09:09 pm: |
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"Cynique:
Isn't that Jelly Roll Morton really swinging?"
Actually, he isn't all that bad. ;o)
Now, Fletcher Henderson and Duke cound swing their asses off. |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 3860
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2006 - 09:58 pm: |
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LOL. I thought Jelly Roll Morton was kinda like back in the Rag Time era or was maybe a pioneer in Dixie Land jazz. I know the late Gregory Hines starred as him in the Broadway musical "Jelly's Last Jam." I do like the big-band sounds of swing musicians like Fletcher Henderson and Jimmy Lunceford and Earl "Fatha" Hines, not to mention Duke Ellington and Count Basie. I listen to these artists sometimes on the cable music channnels. I actually like all kinds of music, even a little Rap. |
Renata
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Renata
Post Number: 686
Registered: 08-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 01:31 pm: |
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ABM, I agree with your VERY FIRST post here, LOL.
I PREFER classic soul and R&B to the crap that's popular now. |
Yvettep
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Yvettep
Post Number: 867
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 02:27 pm: |
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You all probably know about some/all of these resources, but they are relative recent discoveries for me. I have been able to hear a lot of great new music--lots of it from non-mainstream artists--plus hear some classic old stuff I had forgotten about.
Okayplayer (http://www.okayplayer.com/)
Digital Eargasm (http://digitaleargasm.blogspot.com/)
Hidden Beach (home of Jill Scott and Kindred--http://www.hiddenbeach.com/)
We Funk Radio (streaming radio, but they list their playlists if you wanna search for and buy-http://www.wefunkradio.com/)
And my current favorite is also a streaming internet radio station, but one that tries to match the songs it chooses to your particular taste--Pandora/Music Genome Project (http://www.pandora.com/)
There are a lot of great new artists out there as well as folks who have been forgotten about. It's up to those of us who complain about the current state of commercial music to support these folks.
I'd love to hear about other sites, podcasts, etc anyone has come across, too.
(OK-Sunday sermon over! LOL)
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Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 3862
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 06:02 pm: |
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Yvette, "Clear Channel", which is a musical conglomerate, owns 3 or 4 radio stations in Chicago and one of these stations is called "have it your way" and it plays well-known favorites from EVERY genre of music except Rap, all inter-dispersed during the course of each DJ's shift. I've often wondered why this format has never been adopted before. Of course, I doubt whether many people under 25 listen to this station. |
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