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Serenasailor
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Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 04:50 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I live in SoCal and I have seen every kind of interracial relationship known to man. BM/WW, BW/WM, WM/AW, AM/WW, AM/BM. I see just as many interracial relationships involving black women as I do with black men out here. Why is it so ineven in other parts of the country? Why are there more significantly higher rates of black men with white women as the other way around in other parts of the country? Is it because Caly is more liberal? Just Curious!!
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Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 05:03 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

do you ever see asian men/ black women couples? they are the least married in america. how far are you from Camp Pendleton... i know those marine and navy guys will holler at a chick from anywhere. i think miami has alot of that too ...by the way did u see that post i made for you homes?
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Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 05:34 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yeah I did. When I lived in Miami I saw alot of WM/BM realtionships. However, I was asking the question because I have heard that in other parts of the country BM/WW was very common but not the other way around. Why is that?
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Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 05:52 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

There's a lot of things that I'd call it --

a bunch of psychos getting their blue-veined, white-blooded, albino freak on, maybe -- but I'm not sure if "liberal" is one of the terms that comes to mind.
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Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 05:55 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Serenasailor,

Unlike most other parts of the country, California doesn't have much of a history of Black men being lynched for boning White women.

At least, not yet.
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Serenasailor,

Unlike most other parts of the country, California doesn't have much of a history of Black men being lynched for boning White women.

At least, not yet.

So why are the #'s so disportionate in other parts of the country? For instance, BM/WW than the other way around.
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Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 07:18 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

FastTek
(Columbia University):

Non-mixed Black Females and Korean Males are the two groups least accepting of interracial relationships on a long term basis.

Most black women do not want to date out of their race--most black men do.

This is changing, however, with Black females under the age of 27. The recent movie "Guess Who?" and "younger" black women's excitement over the movie show how attitudes among young black women are changing to embrace the idea of optional mating.

As well, studies show that White males under 27 are becoming more familiar with "black females" and feel no stigma in openly pursuing them for long term relationships, although White males showed a greater concern than Black females over the secondary racial characteristics of children resulting from interracial unions. Still, 65% of White males under the age of 30 expressed a desire to date Black females.

61% of Biracial daughters by "Black father/White mother" end up marrying....White male.

88% of Biracial sons by "Black father/White mother" end up marrying....White female.

84% of Biracial daughters by "White father/Black mother" end up marrying...Black male.

58% of Biracial sons by "White father/Black mother" end up marrying...Black female.


















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Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 07:33 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

California is LA-LA land. Anything goes there. People who are fed up and disappointed with their lives have always pulled up stakes and headed for California to get a new start. The end result is a place full of a broad-cross-section of broad-minded people. In 1849, Pioneers from all across the land set out for California in search of gold. Along the way, the less hardy gave up and scattered in different states, and this is how the country was settled. We, midwesterners used to call LA, "the land of the fruits and nuts", now it's just a cosmopolitan Eldorado.
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Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 07:40 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Strange fact:

Of "Kenyan women" who marry non-Kenyan men in the United States, 84% are married to Black American men!

Now I have never seen a Kenyan woman with a Brotha! LOL




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Ethiopian women are among the Africans least likely to marry out of their nationality. When they do marry out, they marry White European men by 78%. The rest marry Africans who aren't Ethiopian.

Less than ONE HALF of 1% of Ethiopian-American women are married to Non-Ethiopian men.

DAYUM.




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Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 07:48 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I had heard that Ethiopians are clanish.

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Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 08:12 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is any of this important? Just curious.....
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Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 08:25 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It started out kind of interesting, NFS, until "prettybabygirl" went into her geneology mode ala kola boof.
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Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 09:00 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did someboady say somthin' about ethiopean girls :-)
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lol serenasailor ... there's not many bw/wm couples in michigan, but a whole bunch of bm/ww. there are alot of wm/aw in michigan too. i've only been to san diego and around riverside area in cali, i didn't really pay attention to who was with who ...but there sure where alot of latinas around there, damn near more than in san antonio.
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Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 09:29 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

My Uncle's wife's brother and my son's boss are each married to women from Kenya. Therefore, that statistic is not surprising to me. Kenyan women like to marry African American men, because a lot of AA men work in that country.


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Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 07:40 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

***Most black women do not want to date out of their race--most black men do. This is changing, however, with Black females under the age of 27. The recent movie "Guess Who?" and "younger" black women's excitement over the movie show how attitudes among young black women are changing to embrace the idea of optional mating. As well, studies show that White males under 27 are becoming more familiar with "black females" and feel no stigma in openly pursuing them for long term relationships...****

This is NOT good for black men....

Although white men are quick to have casual relationships with black women, they usually are not willing take such relationships and such females seriously, unless the female agrees to sever ALLLL ties with black men....

White men still view black men as a threat, so only when a black woman decides to stop communicating with and SUPPORTING black men, is she accepted by white men as a serious mate.

Here's the thing. Once a black woman decides to do that, she is COMPLETELY accepted and sought-after by white men.

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Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 10:13 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tonya,

REALLY!

Do you godhonestly believe that Black women will wholly abandon Black men to score White men?
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Abm,

Yes.
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Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 11:17 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tonya,

Hmmmmm? Interesting...


You know, I was reading this article last Friday that stated for all the hoopla over Black/White dating/mating, B/W couples are must less frequent than are often given credit. The article says that Asians and Hispanics are FAR more likely to date/marry Whites than are Blacks.
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Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 12:18 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Abm is right.

The article says that Asians and Hispanics are FAR more likely to date/marry Whites than are Blacks.

That's true.

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Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 12:21 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

PBG,

Funny how we don't witness all the hue-n-cry over W/H and/or W/A coupling that we do W/B coupling.
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Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 12:23 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I mean, I guess there would be no "Something New" movie featuring a White man and Hispanic (or Asian) woman because there is, in fact, very little really New about such.
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I know for a fact that interracial couples "network" regarding locations within the U.S. where they can peacefully live (and possibly raise a family) without too much drama from outsiders. So, what you see in SCali is proably a result of such networking.



Abm:
"Funny how we don't witness all the hue-n-cry over W/H and/or W/A coupling that we do W/B coupling."


Moonsigns:
Interesting (and valid) point.

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Abm, do you know any women from Kenya?

Just curious.

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Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 01:43 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LOL

Why should black people "hue-n-cry" over W/H and/or W/A coupling??

Am I missing something?

Because last I heard, it was black men who occupied most jail/prison cells; black men who were being lost the most to street violence; and black women who outnumber black men, what? 8 to 1???.. naw.. that can't be right....

And on top of that, black men are notoriously color-struck.

So why on earth would we be crying about white on whatever ELSE coupling?

And what do other races have to cry about.

Seriously. Am I missing something?
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PBG,

No. Almost all the native Africans I know are from West Africa.


Tonya,

Perhaps.
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Dang, Tonya.

You hooked it up. Can't argue with that.

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Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 01:58 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Then Abm---

Where are all these brothas with Kenyan wives? I am so puzzled by these statistics.

Any other brothas on here seen any black men with Kenyan women?

I don't see it or hear about it in the U.S..




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Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 02:02 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tonya,

Perhaps.

Abm,

Perhaps what?
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PBG,

Maybe those brothas are just living their lives without making much of a fuss about with whom they're living/loving.

Or maybe they're keeping quiet for fear of providing African American reason with but ANOTHER reason to criticize and loathe them.

*shrugs*
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Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 02:15 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

PBG, in places like Washington, D.C. Detroit and California where you have high populations of Kenyans, you will find they marry their daughters off to African American men. Usually business men. Morehouse College has a lot of graduates whose wives are Kenyan.





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Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 02:22 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tonya,

Perhaps...you are "missing something".
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Correction to February 07, 2006 - 02:04 pm::

Or maybe they're keeping quiet for fear of providing African American WOMEN reason with but ANOTHER reason to criticize and loathe them.
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Enchanted,

You think think those Morehouse brothas want it to go public they're much more interested in marrying Kenyan women then those fine, smart African American sistahs over at their sister college Spellman?
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LOL

I sorry. I should have made myself clearer.

"Perhaps...you are 'missing something'."

I know that. What am I missing.
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LOL@abm. The fact is the majority of Morehouse men do marry Spelman women or African American women. Only 10 out of a 100 I would say marry African women. Women from Kenya are black and I am darkskinned so I never saw it as an affront. I graduated from Spelman.



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WHOA, W/B/,W/H, W/A, B/B, W/W, WaWaWaWaaa. I can't keep up with who is sayin what about which. Did I read Tonya gloating about how black women are now open to the idea of abandoning black men for white men???? How can she approve of the idea of something that would lead to having MIXED children? Wouldn't that be a set-back for the "authentic" movement and it's quest to keep blacks black? How can Tonya bad mouth black men for marrying outside their race and then approve of black woman doing this. This is the part I don't get about the colorism fanatics. It's like their rules don't seem to apply to themselves. Kola Boof has even said she would consider marrying a WHITE man.
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Exactly Cynique. Tonya is a hypocrite. She lusts for white men's attention but she loathes the black men who can actually command the white woman's attention. She has a complex and she blames it on black men, but its her who has a problem with herself. Kola Boof is beyond help. That woman is an exploitor. She makes money off black women's misery but doesn't live any of the crap she preaches.

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Enchanted,

So how does this Morehouse-Kenyan connection work? Is there some high caste of Kenyan women being bred from birth to hook up with one of the Mighty Men?

Is it like some kind of pledging thing?

Or is there a Kenyan cQQchie lottery or something?
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I'm not sure how it is Abm. Kenyan families immigrate to the U.S. and their fathers prefer their daughters to marry African American men. You have Ethiopians who are the exact opposite and you have West Africans who want their children to marry White if not their own nationality. I know that the Kenyan women are very slim and graceful, I suppose most of us would think of them as very pretty women and they are very softspoken and submissive. That is a trait they are known for, submissiveness. British men, white ones, marry Kenyan women more than any other African. In the Meryl Streep film "Out of Africa", do you remember the British men talking about what "heavenly" wives Kenyan women make? I believe Ghanian women are second choice. Ethiopians are the most desired but very rarely marry out of their nationality. Cornel West married an Ethiopian.










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A lot of Kenyan families live near Morehouse College. A lot of the Professors are Kenyans. They are one of the groups that likes African Americans a lot.







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Enchanted,

Thanks for the info. It's very enlightening. I would say I am glad to discover there are some some women who apparently have a preference for African American men. But then, I'd mostly be starting trouble.


Tonya,

I don't know. But I sincerely hope you find it.
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Enchanted,

You almost appear to be suggesting that it might not be so much the color of woman that draws a Black man as much as whether he feels he can comfortably, amicably make a life with her. But, perhaps, in America the physical features are being falsely confused with those desired traits.

Hmmmmmm?

What an absolutely REVOLUTIONARY notion.
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Abm,

******I don't know. But I sincerely hope you find it.******

Well, how am I going to find it if I don't know what is is?

And how do you know that I'm missing something if you don't know what it is?

Do you know what it rhymes with? at leat?

P.S. Don't start nothing you can't finish!
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i would love to know where you guys are coming up with these statistics and percentages about the africans. where's the source of this information coming from?
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Enchanted??? You don't even know nothing about me, lol.

Ease up on that, sweetie. These titties are heavy enough.
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Tonya,

I've not started anything. Thus, I have no thought about finishing it (assuming I'd even care to know what you're referring to).

And, sorry. But I think I'm getting to the stage in my life where I'd rather not fight with girls I can't fuhk later. Because, really, that seems like a such fruitless effort.
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ABM, and Enchanted, to me, there is something appealing and a little sexy about a foreign accent. You hear these Africans speaking with an English or French or Nigerian accent and all of a sudden they become exotic and riveting. Like the singer Seal. He's really not that appealing until he opens his mouth and starts talking.
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Cynique,

You're right. I think that's part of what turns me on to Naomi Campbell (well THAT...plus she seems like she's mean enuff to fuhk a brothah's d@#$ off).

I know yawl gone call me a sellout: But dat nikka Seal made out like a BANDIT on that Heidi Klum score. Well DAYAAAM!!!
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some of you guys are making s@#t up ... all the ethiopean girls i know have american bruthas, it's the african dudes who will get with the white chicks, and i mean any ol' white girl too! and i'm not talking about just getting there freak on either, they marry them and are all happy and proud to show them off to their people from back home.
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WELL.

You like your fruit and you like "gettin' down" to business, huh?

Hmmmmmmmm.

Well, if you weren't Kola's man..

I'd say, "you can do virtual~ly.. just about.. anything."

LOL
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ABM
I know yawl gone call me a sellout: But dat nikka Seal made out like a BANDIT on that Heidi Klum score. Well DAYAAAM!!!

LOL!!!!
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Ethiopian women across the board marry Ethiopian men. Neither of them marries out in any large numbers.


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Dobes,

Mayne! You know dayam well that nikka Seal wakes up EVERY morning feeling like he's taking candy from a (tall, FIONE) baby.
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ABM

LOL, If I where Seal I would've done the same thing! He hurried up and skeeted in that too ... notice how he didn't wait til marriage or any of that before he had his little seal cub. LOL
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enchanted
Ethiopian women across the board marry Ethiopian men. Neither of them marries out in any large numbers.

good, then maybe i can keep stringing my girl along until she can find another ethiopean guy who will make me want to step my game up.
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ABM said:

Enchanted,

You almost appear to be suggesting that it might not be so much the color of woman that draws a Black man as much as whether he feels he can comfortably, amicably make a life with her. But, perhaps, in America the physical features are being falsely confused with those desired traits.

Hmmmmmm?

What an absolutely REVOLUTIONARY notion.

KOLA:

If this is true, ABM...then why don't Black Men stay home and RAISE the kind of daughters they want to marry within their own group like other men do?

It's not that hard to do. Even the poorest Latino and African men manage to do it year in and year out.

Just think.

They'd have neighborhoods full of the submissive "Kenyan" type of women---only they'd be African American women and they'd get to have Black CHILDREN who look like themselves as a bonus.

So there's something really Revolutionary....

The fact that it takes water for a "Flower" to grow and bloom.

And Black American men HAVE ALWAYS...watered the lightest, whitest flower in their midst....or the most exotic foreign flower. (notice how you virtually shut this thread down with your OVERLY quixotic ruminations about Heidi Fleiss on a board crowded by black women--I've known you years and I don't think you've ever made such a GOD-worshipping like comment about a female (Other than me :-) before.)

The board shut down, because Black men NEVER...

not ever ever NEVER

...speak about "Black Women" in the way that you just did about Heidi Fleiss.

It just proves that White is SUPERLATIVE...Black is "average, a dime a dozen".

And that's how Black AMERICAN women are made to feel on a constant. Like there's nothing special about them at all.

They get no "watering" anywhere.

From the day I stepped foot in this country, my heart has broken for Black American women, because you really don't see how your MotherSeed is so neglected and from birth..."mentally" abused by her {DEFECT} (hair and skin not light enough).

Yes, Kenyan women are chocolate covered, despite their skinny noses and bony bodies...but

.....who wants a husband who married you because you're "more liable" to put up with abuse and selfishness--and will care only for his needs nad never your own?

I happen to know that you don't want that for your own daughters.









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ABM said:

I know yawl gone call me a sellout: But dat nikka Seal made out like a BANDIT on that Heidi Klum score. Well DAYAAAM!!!

KOLA says:

The truth is...after Seal shoots his "nut"....he's a dead man in her winter wonderland.

His country in Africa is still a stinking dying wasteland--totally Un-helped in any way by his achievements in LIFE.

And her White man's EMPIRE is still White---in fact, WHITER because of Seal (because he brought no more blackness into the world; their baby will be a Mulatto Self-hater after its father)---and this silvery White WONDERLAND continues Sprawling and completely out of control and unchallenged.......partly because of Seal's choosing to be in HER arms.

Where he's a dead man.

And will never rule shit.







But then, ABM---500 years ago, when Black women tried to speak against "selling our own children into slavery"....and Black KINGS declared those women "fire witches" and "male bashers" and patted each other on the back for the Gold and Ink Pens and Mirrors they aquired for selling black flesh into slavery.....it was the same WHITE HIGH....

top of the world
euphoria
super duper WOW


mayne.

We're still selling out our own children. And Africa.










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Don't nobody want Seal. And if he didn't have any money, Heidi wouldn't have given him the time of day. As far as Heidi's looks, she looks good now (which is why she is a fashion model) but it won't last and it won't be pleasant waking up next to her when she gets up in age. She can get a face lift but she's still going to start looking like carp. In case you didn't know it, Black women age much more gracefully than white girls. That's because of the melanin in our skin, and we don't have to be going under the knife to look good either :-)
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I would want Seal.

Even if he was piss poor---I would be VERY attracted to him.

But then again, the tribal scars on his face are on my pussy. It's an African thing. :-)




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Doberman23 --

"do you ever see asian men/black women couples?"

It's big in the LA Cal. area, but then again Californians always do things their own way.

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Kola - What are you going to do with a piss poor Seal? Oops, I forgot, you're a millionaire and you don't need him for his money. But would you still want him after he's been laying up with Heidi?
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No. I loathe SEAL, actually. I would never be with him.

I meant that he's very handsome and sexy to me. I would go for HIS TYPE.



No, I'm not a millionaire :-)

In fact, I have NO money.

I live off my children's daddy. :-)

But I'm on my way to being independent.




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I love very African looking men.

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Kola:
--"who wants a husband who married you because you're "more liable" to put up with abuse and selfishness--and will care only for his needs nad never your own?" ---

My stepmother, apparently. ^^!

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I don't care what anyone says about Heidi, she's completely angelic--a stunning beauty!

Seal, he's average at best...nice smile. He's proably a really nice guy who just happens to have incredible luck! And, their child looks just like that him!
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"But then, ABM---500 years ago, when Black women tried to speak against "selling our own children into slavery"....and Black KINGS declared those women "fire witches" and "male bashers" and patted each other on the back for the Gold and Ink Pens and Mirrors they aquired for selling black flesh into slavery.....it was the same WHITE HIGH...."

Prove it.

Show us where you got this information, unless you are just pulling more stuff out of your ass.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 01:18 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Why don't you "disprove" it?

It sounds completely on point to me.




500 years ago, when Black women tried to speak against "selling our own children into slavery"....and Black KINGS declared those women "fire witches" and "male bashers" and patted each other on the back for the Gold and Ink Pens and Mirrors they aquired for selling black flesh into slavery.....it was the same WHITE HIGH...."




Yep. That about sums up what happened back then and right now history is repeating itself.

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You still didn't offer HARD proof that this happened.
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Well since you hate black women and since Kola doesn't, I believe her.

Proof or not.

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Kola says: "Black American men HAVE ALWAYS...watered the lightest, whitest flower in their midst....or the most exotic foreign flower. (notice how you virtually shut this thread down with your OVERLY quixotic ruminations about Heidi Fleiss on a board crowded by black women--I've known you years and I don't think you've ever made such a GOD-worshipping like comment about a female (Other than me before.) ...
The board shut down, because Black men NEVER...
not ever ever NEVER ...
...speak about "Black Women" in the way that you just did about Heidi Fleiss...
It just proves that White is SUPERLATIVE...Black is "average, a dime a dozen".
"


ABM says: Niggress, PUUUULEASE!

Anybody who's spent much time in this piece over the years have most definitely been treated to my MANY lascivious bouquets to Sanaa Lathan, Condi Rice, Serena Williams, Meagan Goode, etc.

In fact, here's a link to a very recent posting of mine to that effect: http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus/messages/179/9421.html#POST41905 (Okay. Some of'em are White. Hey! Sue a nikka!)

But I ain't gone front: Yep! If I were single and could get at it, I'm doing MAJOR phallic damage to me some Heidi Klum.

Sorry.


Btw: Just so as not to confuse others, we're referring to model Heidi KLUM here. Not madam Heidi Fleiss. I wouldn't go near FLEISS with a dyck that was born on the planet KRYPTON.
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Abm,

I can't stop laughing.

Whenever you have the hots for a white woman (Angelina Jolie anyone), she writes a whole SPEECH.

LMAO!!!!!

That's what I'm talking about.

I used to die laughing and print that shit out. Only she's waaaay tame and calmed down now.


She loves her some Abm. LMAO!!!



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PBG,

Maybe Kola should just go on her own, private "Fuhk a White Man" spree (Halle Berry's currently on one of those, I hear.). Maybe that'll help her to balance out a lot of the kneegrow antagonism.

And the advent of "Something New" makes this a perfect time for sistahs to get their vanilla-chocolate swerve on.

If Kola's lucky, maybe they'll cum with plenty of nuts.
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Kola,

I suspect I could hardly tolerate, much less prefer, some all-obliging woman. I've seldom witnessed that. And when I did, usually both the man and the woman was the worser for such.

But there is a prevailing sentiment amongst MANY Black men - and NOT just the neanderthal types - that many sistahs have heads harder than reinforced titanium. Many brothahs think they can't get much done with A LOT of yawl because you have so much going on we can hardly hear ourselves think.

So while I personally would not pursue a relationship with a submissive woman, I can most CERTAINLY discern how many other men would.


And when I see you and other sistahs wax on about the myriad failings of Black men, I often think we're caught in a vicious loop of Black mothers raising sons who become men who disappoint and fail other Black women who then become mothers raising sons who become men who disappoint and fail other women...

I'd include fathers within this circular paradigm. That is, if many of them were around.
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Abm, this is mean:

If Kola's lucky, maybe they'll cum with plenty of nuts.



I don't think she wants to be with white men. Come on now.

That's my girl, so I have to take her side on this one.


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Abm, women like Kola just want to feel that they are valued by men like you, and because we're from the same racial group, they expect to be valued MORE than you value Heidi Klum.

I personally do believe that you value us more and that you love your wife, daughters, Kola, me, all of us.

That's why I laugh at her, because I feel the love from you as a real brotha.

Some women, especially political ones like Kola who are "damaged" as her autobiography so brilliantly illustrates--need more love and more reassurance, because they love so deeply. I can totally understand her, and coming from her background, I can see why she feels more betrayed than the average BW.

She loves you. You were even mentioned in the book! So I know you bout fix'n to shut up. LOOOOL!!!! :-)

Kola fears losing the good ones like you, especially.


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PBG: "Abm, this is mean: If Kola's lucky, maybe they'll cum with plenty of nuts."

I'm sorry. I was just attempting to be orgasmically optimistic.


PBG: "I don't think she wants to be with white men. Come on now."

Really. I'm at a lost. Kola resents and loathes Black men. But won't tap into any non-Black ones.

That seems like a kinda hell that Dante wrote about 700 years ago.
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PBG,

I honestly don't know what to say.

Hey. I'm a man. Thinking and doing as most others do. Fantasies of adventures, heroism and penile conquests.

Fears of a worn body, broken spirit. And a death that comes either to soon or too late.

I wish I could with my hands and arms embrace all the abandoned Black women of the world. For you truly need and deserve that.

But know that at least within this voice there is love.

Know that here, you are mine. I am yours. And, no matter what, we are here to be together.
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ABM:

Kola resents and loathes Black men.

KOLA:

ABM, it hurt me to stumble in....and read you saying that.

It's true that I resent SOME black men--but I don't loathe "black men".

In my autobiography, I actually name all the black men that I hate.

But I spend a much longer time throughout the book talking about those black men that I love, admire and have been healed or nurtured by.

Honestly, the things that I'm complaining about "socially" are nothing new in this country--it's a pathology that has been growing and erasing, little by little, since slavery ended.

You know that.

So at some point--someone has to attempt to throw a cog in the wheel.

Cynique could be right--my whole life and work may be in vain, and one day black people won't exist here, but as I see so much of the majority (and especially Black men) doing nothing to confront the situation--I just find myself less and less willing to apologize or be trivialized by anyone's criticism of my feelings and actions.

Perhaps my bitterness is that I have to do it by myself, not only with no help from black men--but also with their mundane announcements such as --"You hate black men".

If anyone hates anyone, it's black men who have PROFESSED PUBLICLY their hate for us (black women) on a daily basis....just pick up any magazine, listen to any music lyric, watch any film or music video.

At the beginning, I said that your words hurt me.

And that's because I do love, respect and admire you so much, Mr. Stepney.

It hurts me bad to think that you believe that about me.

But I still have to go on with my work...even if I'm "imperfect" in my tasks.



KOLA

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Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 05:44 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Abm, I always felt that about you. I do know :-)

Thanks.

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HIIIII KOLLLLLLA!

LOL.

Abm is crazy about you, you know that. Don't trip.

He doesn't mean it as serious as you take things.

I love you, sister. CHILL :-)




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Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 05:58 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola,

Should I have said you "hate and loathe A LOT of Black men"?
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I love you so much, ABM.

I have nothing further.




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Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 06:37 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Well since you hate black women and since Kola doesn't, I believe her.

Proof or not."

You sound like a nine year old. BTW you actually are Kola and said as much on other boards. Please, lady.

And you still offered no proof, which can only mean you made it up in the heat of the moment, like most of the things you write.
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ROTFLMAO.
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Kola,

You really outtah cut the shyt, girl. You know dayam well I don't believe you hate all Black men (most, maybe...but not all. Hehehehehehe!!!). But you sure as tooting ain't got much use for us as a whole.

And if Black men are, as a whole, unworthy, and you won't do the swirl, no cQQchie-eating, then you're NOT left with much to choose from, babe.


Except, perhaps, MORE anger, loneliness and isolation.
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Posted on Thursday, February 09, 2006 - 05:27 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ABM, I get more dick than I can stand.

I was just put down Tuesday night.

Ask GOD. Because it's true.

And please don't forget that I'm the type of woman who can fuck men I hate just as quickly as the ones I adore.







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Well. I wasn't referring SOLELY to the frequency and quality of the dyck you're receiving. But I'm happy for you that you're get the Kola chili sauce stirred and served.

And I guess most guys who's getting fuhked well don't much care the chick who's delivering the pune hates'em.
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abm
lol, you are crazy as hell!
lol!!!!!!
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Moonsigns said:
I don't care what anyone says about Heidi, she's completely angelic--a stunning beauty!

Seal, he's average at best...nice smile. He's proably a really nice guy who just happens to have incredible luck! And, their child looks just like that him!

Wisdom says:
Moonsigns is obviously deranged. First, a caveat: I like Heidi Klum because I like Project Runway. But let's not pretend she is something that she is not. Klum was pregnant with another man's child when she began her affair with Seal. She is also notorious for her promiscuity, as are many other supermodels. To call her "angelic" is the height of insanity. Perhaps Moonsigns' rush to applaud this relationship has less to do with the actual people involved (two hoes: Klum and Seal) and more to do with her own racial hangups and relationship insecurities.
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When I called Heidi "angelic" I was referring to her beauty not her sexual practices.
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Moonsigns said:
When I called Heidi "angelic" I was referring to her beauty not her sexual practices.

Wisdom says:
Heidi Klum would probably not even consider her own looks "angelic." She has a good look for a high fashion model, but that under no circumstances automatically translates into angelic beauty. She herself would probably agree with that honest assessment.

Let's get real here, please. Klum was a knocked-up, deserted celebrity who lucked out in finding a similarly hoe-ish celebrity willing to accept her child and start a life with her. Klum is average looking yet has the height and body type which fashion designers who prize women who look like "hangers" desire. Please don't idolize these people. Be that honest, at least.
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Whether Heidi considers her looks "angelic" or not, is completely irrelevant. I'm sharing my opinion regarding her looks--I'm not asking you, Heidi or anyone else to agree with what I'm saying. By making such a comment I'm by no means "idolizing" her either. You are jumping to consluions and making nothing into something. If you don't think she's "angelic" in appearance, you don't think she is "angelic" in appearance. Beauty is different things to different people. Nothing more, nothing less.

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Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 02:44 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No need to get all "emotional"....
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Whether Heidi considers her looks "angelic" or not, is completely irrelevant. I'm sharing my opinion regarding her looks--I'm not asking you, Heidi or anyone else to agree with what I'm saying. By making such a comment I'm by no means "idolizing" her either. You are jumping to consluions and making nothing into something. If you don't think she's "angelic" in appearance, you don't think she is "angelic" in appearance. Beauty is different things to different people. Nothing more, nothing less.

If this is what you in fact meant, fair enough. I stand corrected. However, your original post, taken in context, seemed to hint that Klum should somehow be considered much more attractive than "average" Seal. In fact, you called Seal "lucky" to have snagged an extremely promiscuous, already pregnant woman who is herself average in looks. That's what had me puzzled. But different strokes and all that good stuff.
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Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 04:57 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

BW:
"If this is what you in fact meant, fair enough."

Moonsigns:
:-)


BW:
"However, your original post, taken in context, seemed to hint that Klum should somehow be considered much more attraactive than the "average" Seal. In fact, you called Seal "lucky" to have snagged an extremely promiscous, already pregnant woman who is herself average in looks."


Moonsigns:
Again, beauty is different things to different people. I happen to think Heidi is a very attractive woman. And generally, I feel confident that most men consider her very attractive, too. I just don't think Seal is as handsome as she is beautiful. I don't think they are a couple that compliments one another in regards to attractiveness. And I think it's human nature for people to look at couples and compare them. And it's often a common thought/feeling that if one is more attractive than the other, people consider the less attractive of the pair, "lucky". This is how I feel about Heidi and Seal. Again, though, this is my opinion--and everyone has one. Now, if she were with someone like Blair Underwood, Brad Pitt, Denzel, or Morris Chesnut, I wouldn't consider them lucky--they'd compliment one another. I'm specifically speaking about looks--nothing else.

In regards to her being promiscuous, I don't know anything about that--as I don't know her personally. And I don't feel confident saying she is "promiscous" just because she met him and hooked up with him when she was pregnant with her first child. There are tons of women who end up in relationships with men who aren't the father of their child/children and they go on to marry them and have some biological children of their own. But if you feel she's a "hoe", then I guess according to your standards/guidelines, America (and the world over) is chock full of extremely promiscuous hoes.

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Um, Moonsigns, I "feel" like she's a hoe because she is a hoe. So is her husband. They are both hoes who found each other and decided to make a decent lives for themselves with children. Klum is not, lookswise, anything to write home about. Anyone who's mind is not clogged with the white superiority poison can see that. Why should anyone of Klum's level of attractiveness even imagine herself on the physical level of a Morris Chestnut? Laughable. She sure doesn't, which is why she is with (relatively handsome) Seal. Perhaps her whiteness bumps her up a few levels on the attractiveness scale to some people, surely not you!, hmmm...
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Like I said, we all have our opinions. I surely have mine. You surely have yours.

On another note, I've enjoyed reading some of your posts.
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I hope this settles it:

(in my best MS grammar)

Dey bofe ugly.
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Klum is not, lookswise, anything to write home about. Anyone who's mind is not clogged with the white superiority poison can see that. Why should anyone of Klum's level of attractiveness even imagine herself on the physical level of a Morris Chestnut? Laughable.
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Sooooo true... Or Denzel or Blair Underwood, imo.

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...which is why she is with (relatively handsome) Seal. Perhaps her whiteness bumps her up a few levels on the attractiveness scale to some people, surely not you!, hmmm...

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