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Ntfs_encryption
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 172
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2006 - 05:51 pm: | 
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Denial is holding blacks back?
“The hanging of a Mississippi teen was found to be a suicide, not a lynching, but black leaders keep fanning the flames of racial paranoia”.
By Earl Ofari Hutcherson
It's hard to say how many more official probes it will take before Jesse Jackson and black leaders accept the bitter truth that black Mississippi teen Raynard Johnson was not lynched but committed suicide. The latest to come to that conclusion is Michael Baden. The world-renowned forensic expert visited Johnson's home and thoroughly reviewed two autopsy reports, one of which was privately commissioned by Johnson's family. He found no solid evidence that Johnson was the victim of racist violence.
Baden's findings were made public by the commander of the Mississippi Highway Patrol, an African-American. But even this probably isn't enough to persuade Jackson and other black leaders that white racists didn't murder Johnson. Not surprisingly, when Jackson was told of the latest conclusion, he did not return phone calls from reporters for comment. Hopefully, Mississippi's governor won't hold his breath waiting for Jackson and other black leaders to heed his call to apologize for smearing the state.
It's easy for Jackson to fuel the flames of racial paranoia about Johnson's death. Thanks to the civil rights meltdown, assaults on affirmative action, racial profiling, the wave of police shootings in black communities, the grim economic plight of many young black males, the grotesque disparities in the prison and criminal justice system, more and more blacks are convinced that terrible atrocities are being planned for them.
That was painfully evident to me recently when I spoke to a large group of African-Americans. During the question and answer period, the issue of the burning of black churches came up. I pointed out that nearly one-third of the more than 100 people arrested by FBI and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms agents in the burning of over 200 churches were black. In some cases there was strong evidence of a loose conspiracy by a disjointed group of racist whites to burn these churches. But this should not let the blacks that burned their own churches off the hook.
There was nothing racial about their motives. They burned their churches out of revenge, anger, to conceal thefts, or to perpetuate insurance fraud. They were criminals and no one should try to excuse or justify their shameful acts. Disappointingly, several blacks did. Angry, they immediately shouted, "How do we know that they actually burned the churches? The only thing we have to go by is the white man's word." Their blindness to reality was the ultimate in collective racial denial.
Time and again when an African-American winds up in front of a court bench, more than a few blacks will shout that he or she is the victim of a racist conspiracy. It is a good, if not well-worn, ploy that some black personalities have raised to a state-of-the-art enterprise when they are accused of, or nailed for, sexual hijinks, bribery, corruption, drug dealing and possibly even murder.
Here are some tragic examples of this. The Rev. Henry Lyons, president of the National Baptist Convention USA, the country's biggest and most influential black religious organization, was convicted of racketeering and grand theft in 1999. The evidence was overwhelming that Lyons was a crook. Yet even after Lyons admitted his guilt many black ministers still wailed that he was the victim of a white conspiracy.
Despite a mountain of lawsuits, countless threats of government prosecution and numerous allegations of unsavory dealings by boxing promoter Don King, NAACP officials publicly rushed to his defense. They hinted that King was a victim of a government plot to destroy him.
Before the first juror has been seated and a single piece of evidence presented to determine his guilt or innocence, supporters of Jamil Al-Amin (formerly H. Rap Brown), who went on trial for charges of gunning down two Atlanta police officers, did the same. They relentlessly claim that the charges are part of a 30-year vendetta by law enforcement agencies to destroy him for his Black Panther past.
Since the 1960s, many blacks have pumped the idea that everything that happens to African-Americans -- whether it's the suicide of Raynard Johnson or the murder of Martin Luther King Jr. -- is part of a secret plan to annihilate their race. Their theory goes like this: Following the urban uprisings of the 1960s, the ghettos were flooded with drugs, alcohol, gangs and guns. During the 1980s, AIDS was imported. The "white establishment" wanted to stop blacks from developing unity, strong political organizations and programs to counter oppression. The plot was to get blacks to self-destruct.
There is no hard evidence that any of this is true. And there exists a legion of telltale signs that many blacks reflexively scream racism to cover their misdeeds. The problem is that the victims of those misdeeds are almost always other African-Americans.
Even more damaging, when Jackson and other black leaders claim racial plots, as in Johnson's death, with little or no evidence to back them up, they lay themselves wide open to the charge that black leaders are more interested in playing racial one-upmanship than in promoting racial harmony and achieving tangible racial gains. This is just the kind of charge that gives them -- and the people they supposedly serve -- a black eye.
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Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 3744
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2006 - 06:29 pm: |
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There are those who say that in order to perpetuate a need for their existence, black leaders have to polarize a situation by playing the race card. |
Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 177
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2006 - 06:38 pm: |
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Cynique wrote: "There are those who say that in order to perpetuate a need for their existence, black leaders have to polarize a situation by playing the race card."
This is very true. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 4197
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2006 - 07:50 pm: |
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Here an interesting paradox about the conspiracies that Blacks often attribute to the evil machinations of Whites: They are they are almost never proven...and almost never disproven. |
Tonya
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Username: Tonya
Post Number: 1655
Registered: 07-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2006 - 08:28 pm: |
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Abm,
I tried to post three times already but there's something wrong with my service, so I kept losing eveything that I wanted to say. Anyway, you basically said what I tried; and being the genius that you are, you captured it all with this one line:
"They are almost never proven...and almost never disproven."
My point exactly....
And another thing:
". . .they lay themselves wide open to the charge that black leaders are more interested in playing racial one-upmanship than in promoting racial harmony and achieving tangible racial gains."---Hutcherson
Why is it always the black man's responsibility to promote "racial harmony?" Where does the white man fit into all of this? |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 4205
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2006 - 08:51 pm: |
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Tonya: "Why is it always the black man's responsibility to promote "racial harmony?" Where does the white man fit into all of this?"
How the hell can the White man continue to oppress, denigrate and manipulate niggras if those dangblasted Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton won't let us trick'em into believing we're going to (BAAAAAWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!) play things fair/square? |
Tonya
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Post Number: 1658
Registered: 07-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2006 - 09:07 pm: |
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LOL, Abm! I hear ya! |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 3745
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2006 - 09:51 pm: |
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Why would blacks expect things to be equal in their dealings with an adversary who they constantly accuse of repressing them? That is the paradox of being black in this country. Whites fulfill the expectations of disillusioned blacks. And self-serving black leaders continue to capitalize on this. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 4212
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2006 - 10:59 pm: |
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Why would Blacks expect things to be equal in there dealings with an adversary?
PERIOD!
The world is NOT about fairness and equality. It's about weakness and power. |
Prettybabygirl
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Post Number: 206
Registered: 04-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2006 - 11:09 pm: |
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I don't think that blacks DO expect things equal with an adversary.
That's why they constantly show their distrust.
Only the people like the Conservative Republican who wrote this article expect to have fairness and equality with the White people. To the point of being delusional that he's living it.
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Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 183
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 01:40 pm: |
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Well, the man who wrote the commentary is black. His personal life experiences have told him that ongoing spurious conspiracies of "white man is trying to hold me back or kill me" are destructive and counter productive. Is he wrong for believing that? And is he lying? Just curious.... |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 4222
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 01:53 pm: |
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Ntfs_encryption,
I think the biggest problem with the charges of White-against-Black conspiracies is that NOBODY can PROVE them. Hey. If White foks are undermining Black foks at every turn, we DO need to know and declare that shyt. But Sharpton and nem should NOT just BLARE out that White foks sabotaged the New Orleans levees that destroyed the Black neighborhoods SANS any verification. Because, ultimately, you disable any legitimate efforts to divine what REALLY happened and how to prevent such from reoccuring.
Really. We Black foks need fewer Activists and MORE SCIENTISTS. |
Tonya
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Username: Tonya
Post Number: 1685
Registered: 07-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 03:13 pm: |
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Well, the man who wrote the commentary is black. His personal life experiences have told him that ongoing spurious conspiracies of "white man is trying to hold me back or kill me" are destructive and counter productive. Is he wrong for believing that? And is he lying? Just curious....
The question should be, "is he dated?" Most people (to my knowledge) realize that racism is much different nowadays. Covert. It's more subliminal, symbolic, underground, ect. Where are all these people who are complaining about lynchings and conspiracies? I bet they're a smaller percentage of AAs than he realizes. So is he wrong or lying? No. But, he's probably overstating the truth. And I question his knowledge of current topics spoken among black folks. |
Ntfs_encryption
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Post Number: 192
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 04:26 pm: |
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ABM wrote: I think the biggest problem with the charges of White-against-Black conspiracies is……… Hey. If White foks are undermining Black foks at every turn, we DO need to know and declare that shyt. But Sharpton and nem should NOT just BLARE out that White foks sabotaged the New Orleans levees that destroyed the Black neighborhoods SANS any verification.
I think you hit the nail on the head!
Tonya wrote: The question should be, "is he dated?" Most people (to my knowledge) realize that racism is much different nowadays. Covert. It's more subliminal, symbolic,…….is he wrong or lying? No. But, he's probably overstating the truth. And I question his knowledge of current topics spoken among black folks.
Point well made. I agree.
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Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 193
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 04:33 pm: |
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I have been reading Mr. Hutcherson's writings for some time and I have found them to be very informative and quite revealing. But I must admit there are times when I have seen a lot of knee jerk reactionary emotional responses to his commentaries by some blacks. The man has for the most part been on the side of reason and fairness. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 3766
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 08:37 pm: |
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"Counterproductive" is the operative word here. Hutcherson may be a Conservative but we can't always disregard the messsage because we don't like the messsenger, especially if the alternative argument consists of nothing more than counterproductive sophistry that doesn't lead to solving the problem. |
Ntfs_encryption
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Post Number: 200
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 12:20 am: |
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Cynique wrote: Hutcherson may be a Conservative but we can't always disregard the messsage because we don't like the messsenger,...
Hutcherson is not a conservative. Trust me! But his honest and fair commentaries have rankled the racists (both black and white). But when you speak of Ward Connerly, Armstrong Williams, Star Parker, J.C. Watts or Ken Hamblin, then you are delving into Project 21 styled black conservatism. |
Cynique
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Post Number: 3771
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 01:53 am: |
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Hutcherson may not be a conservative,ntfs, but what he says in that article resonates with the conservative way of thinking. And not one of the black right-wingers you named would disagree with a word he wrote. |
Ntfs_encryption
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Post Number: 203
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 01:21 pm: |
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Cynique wrote: Hutcherson may not be a conservative,ntfs, but what he says in that article resonates with the conservative way of thinking.
Uhhhhh...I'm not sure what you mean. What specifically "resonates" with black conservatives? And is it necessarily bad? Please keep in mind, there will always be at one point or another an issue that two divergent groups can agree upon. Just because you strike a cord of consensus on a particular issue, that does not put you firmly in that camp.
And not one of the black right-wingers you named would disagree with a word he wrote.
Maybe. But what does that prove? I'm sure you and I could agree on a number of subjects but I'm equally sure there are issues where we may have opposing views. This is to be expected. Even if black (or white) conservatives agree with an article Hutcherson writes, that does not necessitate that he is a political bed mate with them.
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Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 3783
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 03:28 pm: |
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Well, black conservatives like Thomas Sowell and Shelby Steele always say things that make good sense but they are discounted by liberals because their conservatve views usually dismiss black victimization. What Hutcherson wrote sounded like something Sowell or Steele would say. But I agree that that doesn't discredit it and I certainly had no problem with what he wrote. Most people espouse both conservative and liberal views, and they are known as, you guessed it - moderates. |
Abm
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Post Number: 4257
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 04:10 pm: |
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Cynique,
The problem I have with much of Sowell and (too a lesser degree) Steele assert is they seem to conveniently FORGET how MANY efforts made by Black people to independently build viable, competitive communities, schools, business, institutions that were actively and MALICIOUSLY thwarted and undermined by Whites at all levels throughout this entire nation's history. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 3788
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 04:45 pm: |
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They know this, but they apparently figure that they made it despite these obstacles and that those who fell along the wayside made bad decisions. That's prettymuch the philosophy of black conservatism. |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 1839
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 04:48 pm: |
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The thing I dislike about these fakers is that not one damn one of them has ever built a business or run for office or done a thing but lick up under white folks.
So who are they to tell anybody what to do?
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