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Mrs_hart
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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - 02:04 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


Wednesday, February 01, 2006
AAFS director Lissa Jones talks about Black people and self-hate
by Kali Terry


A loud roar of applause filled the room of Lula’s Café at every pause or opportunity during Sister Lissa Jones’s lecture. Without the slightest attempt to beat around any bushes with sugar-coated, scripted language, the Sister let loose.

“I don’t know about you, but I am tired of being powerless,” she said as hands clapped and praise was shouted in emphatic agreement. “Black people are trapped inside the prisons of self-hate and self-destruction and nobody is talking about it.”

Although reclaiming the African American Identity and Self-esteem was the underlying theme of Lissa Jones’s eloquent and stern address during a recent communiversity event on October 20, 2005, there definitely wasn’t a ceiling on the information extended regarding Black people’s plight to justice and equality.

Jones, executive director of African American Family Services, took listeners on a candid narration through the early destruction of the African American Identity and Self-esteem starting with the 18th-century Willie Lynch, who imposed treatment that blueprinted strategies of controlling a slave.

She was tenacious in her approach.

“Willie Lynch in 1712 came to America to tell plantation owners exactly how to control slaves,” said Jones. “Now in 2005, although we are no longer slaves, Willie Lynch still plagues Black America because I am too light and he’s too dark or because her lips are bigger and his nose is broader and instead of building each other up we’re busy tearing each other down, against the American standards of slim lips, slim noses, slim thighs until our self-esteem is destroyed. Those are the kinds of things that breed self-hate,” Jones told the large audience congregated at Lula’s Coffee & Jazz in Minneapolis.

Aiming to reaffirm Dr. Carter G. Woodson’s keen observance of the Western world’s distortion of African history, she cited from Dr. Woodson’s 1933 Miseducation of the Negro, saying Black people will never be able to define our existence until we properly revive and reform our mind, body and soul: “Once you convince a man in his mind that he is inferior, there is nothing else to do to make him behave that way, he will do it on his own.” “So, we are talking about re-framing the hearts and minds and souls of Black people for Black people because nothing about us or for us is by us,” said Jones. “My question then for Black America is when are we gonna decide that our transformation must occur from the inside out. I don’t know about you but I am down at African American Family Services every day performing transformations from the inside out because I no longer want someone else to define what Black is, what it looks like, what’s in it and how it’s supposed to act. I want to define the Black women, I want to define Black marriage and I want to define what is the Black community,” she exclaimed, her voice embedded in emotion.

Providing a better understanding of how she became the woman she is today, Jones reminisced on how her father would constantly enforce the “Black is beautiful” concept as a child and would always remind her that she was as smart, as strong and as capable as anybody. Consequently, she was instilled with tremendous self-worth tied to a life-long love for Black people. Today, she soars with the elegant grace and acute awareness of an eagle and transforming the self-hate and battered racial identity and self-esteem of our people is her mission.

“It was not too long ago when 85% of Black families were together as father and mother. Right now, our children are trapped inside the prisons of self-hate and they are trapped inside the prisons of self-destruction and they can’t start to love their families until they begin to love themselves. We must free our children’s minds from the prison of believing that they’re not worthy of a family,” Jones summoned.

Organized under the direction of the salient scholar Mahmoud El-Kati and comprised of youth leaders and learners of the community, the communiversity seeks to provide a vehicle for sharing knowledge and information with the immediate community and making academic knowledge more accessible to “common people.”
Communiversity’s guest speaker Lissa Jones, and almost all guest speakers, evidenced in their discussions that the material and information they transmit isn’t adequately referenced, if even found, in academic institutions—thus further explaining the conception of the Communiversity.

Founded in 1975, the mission of African American Family Services is to help the African American individual, family, and community reach a greater state of well-being.

For more information on the Communiversity or for upcoming events, contact Adrian Mack at 612-483-6681 or Yeemah Brewer at 612-414-7015.
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Chrishayden
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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - 02:09 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This woman is full of more crap than a Christmas goose. Self hate is all black people talk about.

Just look at this site.
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Mrs_hart
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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - 02:09 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Why Must Black Women Hate on One Another?
Ladies, Ladies, Ladies, what the hell is wrong with us? Why must we hate on each other and back stab one another? Why can't we be happy for our friend when she gets a man? Why do we have to diss him and dissmiss him as though our friend's feelings are not our concern? Is this what sisterhood is all about? The lying and deceiving, and Lord knows the cheating that comes around when our friend has a man. Why can't we uplift her and congratulate her on getting a good man cause we all know there aren't that many left. It seems that we can't be happy for others. If we ain't happy or have a good job, or the new house or whatever, then we can't be happy for our friends. Why can't we rejoice in the good news and know that it is not our time to have that great job or hot new car? Why can't we understand that God has a plan for each and everyone of us? It may not come when we want it but it sure as hell comes when we need it and I'm not talking about a want that is disguised as a need. Some of yall already know what I'm talking about. Some of yall have already received blessings when you thought all was lost and at that moment there was an answer to your prayers. So Ladies, next time yo sista lands that great job or that fine ass man, know that there is something in-store for you but not just at that time. So black females, wake up and stop this jealousy and back stabbing because you'll be too caught up in other peoples affairs that you won't be able to see and or receive your own blessing.


P.S. Thank you God for blessing us with one as beautiful, intelligent and compassionate as Coretta Scott King.

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Mrs_hart
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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - 02:17 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Self hate is all black people talk about.

Just look at this site."---EXACTLY.
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Cynique
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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - 03:01 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This site is also full of self-love. Most confrontations here are a clash of egos. I love myself. And I never adore me more than when I am rubbing smug, self-important people the wrong way. It's such a power trip. LMAO.
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Mrs_hart
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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - 03:35 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"All is not confrontations on this board."

But a constant, drip, drip, drip of frustrated cries for help masqueraded as outrage regarding the behavior/lifestyles of unknown others.
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Cynique
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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - 04:21 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Very true, Mrs. Hart. But, we certainly can't described Kola as full of self hate. She loves herself so much that, like an ameba, she just keep dividing into different entities. (And I know I need to stop, but honesty is very high on the list of top-10 things I admire in a person. Like our God and Jesus, Oprah, I have a problem with frauds.)
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Schakspir
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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - 04:30 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Funny, I have to agree with Chris Hayden on this one. This silly cow Lisa Jones(Baraka's daughter?)is one of these blacks who makes a living by regurgitating the same old tired slop about "self-hate". For the love of Christ, fucking DO something. Start a movement. Get rid of the powers-that-be. Something other than talk about Willie Lynch. God, that shit is so lame and so old.
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Schakspir
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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - 04:32 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"This site is also full of self-love. Most confrontations here are a clash of egos. I love myself. And I never adore me more than when I am rubbing smug, self-important people the wrong way. It's such a power trip. LMAO."

Maybe self-hate and self-love are two flip sides of the same coin.
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Serenasailor
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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - 04:37 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This woman is full of more crap than a Christmas goose. Self hate is all black people talk about.

Just look at this site.

The reason why so many ppl on this site talk about self-hate is because so many ppl in our culture are infected with it. And Negroes like you try to walk around and act as if it doesn't exist, all the while loving up on and kissing The White Mans Ass.
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Cynique
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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - 04:39 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yep, Shakspir, because people prefer to love themselves they aspire to change what makes them unhappy. The human psyche is very complex.
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Mrs_hart
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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - 04:51 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I don't think she loves herself at all. She displays a very damaged and hate-fill psyche.

She may one day get to a place where she loves herself, and therefore is at peace with others.

But for right now, she wants to spread the bigotry, injustice and unrest that pervades her country of origin.

It's like: How DARE these people be happy and fulfilled? Don't they know HOW much "I" suffered?

It's like being in extra-security prison all of your life and all of a sudden set free.

You just can't accept it. You don't have the tools to negotiate such a different state of mind.

I would imagine that she is quite frightened being "shackleless." She doesn't know how to navigate the luxuary of self-love and freedom.

It's a beautiful thing that she can't bring herself to trust or to touch.

But I feel sorry for her like I feel sorry for Bush or Hitler.
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Mrs_hart
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Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 08:47 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Like our God and Jesus, Oprah, I have a problem with frauds"

Well, Kola, we all KNOW how you feel about God, Jesus and ANY spiritual entity.

But I bet you would get that operation on your privates and cut your LEFT tit off, just to smell Oprah's breath!
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Nels
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Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 03:28 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Self-hate? Therein lies the definition of "What is black, really?"
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Ntfs_encryption
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Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2006 - 06:17 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mrs Hart wrote: "But I bet you would get that operation on your privates and cut your LEFT tit off, just to smell Oprah's breath!"

Wow! That's kinda harsh isn't it?

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