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Samater
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Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 04:16 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


Is there reason behind your hate for good looking light skin woman or are you just jealouse???




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Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 06:16 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

What the Arabs are doing to Kola's people has nothing to do with Halle, Amerie, Alicia and Jada.

She said that those people (Arabs) terrorized and massacred the Sudanese people. She states that she does not have a regular vagina, but that it resembles a box.

The reason for writing all of this sensationalism is to try to bulldoze her way INTO HOLLYWOOD. Just like SUPERHEAD.

She tried to make it on her back and knees in the Arab and African countries, but they ran her loud and uncouth butt out.

So how to equate Sudanese holocaust with American society and the HOLLYWOOD system?

THERE IS NONE! Most people in life can not make it in HOLLYWOOD, and we are doing just fine!

Fame and fortune HOLLYWOOD style is relegated to only a fortunate few.

AND.THEY.HAVE.TALENT/EDUCATION.
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Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 06:24 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I also believe that because Kola had her vagina completely butchered, she has no sexual sensation.

I believe besides the holocaust of the Sudanese people, this is one of the MAIN reasons for her misplaced RAGE!

Kola really wants men to find her attractive, so hence the bare-chested displays. She was a prostitute afterall, so she is just plying her trade and her wiles.

But sexual gratification escapes her. Her husband has left her. I wonder why. Since Kola writes about herself as such a BLACK SUPERWOMAN.

SUPERWOMAN should be able to HOLD ON TO HER MAN.

Instead, Kola is finding rage in the happiness of others. American society enjoys an openness and regards it's women and it's people more on an equal basis.

She wants to be a sex siren, but knows she never can be. She stated that she is receiving psychiatric treatment for these injustices.

I wish that they would just issue out a muzzle and remote electrical shock treament whenever she starts barking and foaming at the mouth!
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Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 06:39 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

*yawn*.....ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

(-.-)
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Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 06:41 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

[wakes up]

[*sigh*], Sheep always make me fall asleep.
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Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 07:30 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I think Kola Boof looks better and is light years more interesting and gifted than any of those sistas that were posted.

Kola's an extraordinarily beautiful woman and people are obsessed with her.


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Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 08:47 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You are really getting to be a bit much, prettybabygirl. You don't know the history of the colorism feud on this board. Have you taken a look at the lewd pictures kola posts? Have you read her profane rants? Heard her lies disproved? Obsessed? That's a synonym for kola when it comes to color and tonya is her ennabler. As somebody else said, kola brings all of this flak on herself. You need to read more and post less.
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Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 09:47 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"What the Arabs are doing to Kola's people has nothing to do with Halle, Amerie, Alicia and Jada.

She said that those people (Arabs) terrorized and massacred the Sudanese people. She states that she does not have a regular vagina, but that it resembles a box.

The reason for writing all of this sensationalism is to try to bulldoze her way INTO HOLLYWOOD. Just like SUPERHEAD.

She tried to make it on her back and knees in the Arab and African countries, but they ran her loud and uncouth butt out.

So how to equate Sudanese holocaust with American society and the HOLLYWOOD system?

THERE IS NONE! Most people in life can not make it in HOLLYWOOD, and we are doing just fine!

Fame and fortune HOLLYWOOD style is relegated to only a fortunate few.

AND.THEY.HAVE.TALENT/EDUCATION."




Kola boof claims to be married to Osama Bin Laden, claims to have Egyptian Arab father...how the hell does she hate arabs when everything she claims is Arab. If anything is true Kola boof uses Arabs to get attention cause she knows media will buy into anything anyone says about Arabs without proof.
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Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 10:02 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"prettybabygirl" is about as authentic as kola boof is, if you get my drift. They're "one" of a kind. Any second thoughts I have about reading kola's contrived resume have totally vanished. The deceptive "snake girl" has laid herself bare on this board on a regular basis and it ain't a pretty sight no matter what identity she assumes. Not that it matters, but I won't be spending my money on any trash kola is foisting on a guillible public.
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Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 10:45 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

As well, Cynique, there are far too many newbies, whose "tone" ring as if they're being spit right out of Kola's mouth, even a few of the so-called "haters". Which would certainly fit into a certain person's marketing ploy. Create one's own "hate-team" to argue with one's own "love-team". Personally, I'd expect someone claiming to be so creative to do better. Maybe that explains why we got out of the porno, I mean B-movie business. Our acting was probably just as pathetic.
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Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 10:55 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cynique, if your life depended on you being right, you'd be dead.

'Cause you're dead wrong.

Babygirl, that goes for you as well.



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Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 11:34 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I hear ya, Babygirl. "prettybabygirl" & "enchanted" aren't fooling anybody but the kola lackeys.
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Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 02:46 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If Kola woke up tomorrow morning and looked like Vanessa Williams, Halle Berry, etc., she would probably drop off of these boards in real-time. I.e., In her mind, all would be good.
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Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 03:13 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Like a typical colorstruck
Black American MALE
you have no concept
as to what is
beautiful to me.

If I had to wake up
tomorrow morning looking
like another woman....THESE
are the women I would pray
GOD to let me look like--

and Halle and Vanessa's watered
down blackness PALES in
comparison. I do think
they're pretty---but not in a
BLACK WOMAN way.

I honestly don't
"want" their type of look.

Halle Berry, Vaness Williams
type of looks are a SYMBOL
of the White
People's VICTORY
over the Black
Americans.

That's what I see
when I see very LIGHT
or MIXED people. I see
the White Race's dominance.

This is more representative
of Black People and what is
truly beautiful

TO ME:








This following
Picture makes
me cry. I love it
so much.
















This is my favorite
actress---YOLANDA ROSS








LAURYN HILL is a
fucking GODDDESSSSS!






BEYONCE is very
beautiful to me. I like
her type of look.








And let's not
play dumb and blind.

I'm a PRETTY WOMAN
my damned self.

MY MAN tells me every
day and I believe him.

Actually, because I'm
a celebrity...MORE THAN
ONE MAN....tells me
everyday. Not bragging
--just being honest.






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Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 03:31 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola wrote: "That's what I see when I see very LIGHT or MIXED people. I see the White Race's dominance".

Oh really? That's what you think? Ok....well there ya have it.
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Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 03:38 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

What I said is true.

When you look at Halle Berry

...you don't see a woman who
goes with the African landscape.

HELL---when you look at "ME",
you don't see a woman who goes
with the African landscape.

I prefer BLACK beauty, because
that is my race.

Halle is beautiful, but she is
a SYMBOL of the White man's
VICTORY over my race---which is
just how Southern Sudanese see
me in SUDAN.....and they're
right. My looks do SYMBOLIZE
the victory of the Arab over the
Black Africans.



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Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 06:46 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Nels:

If Kola woke up tomorrow morning and looked like Vanessa Williams, Halle Berry, etc., she would probably drop off of these boards in real-time. I.e., In her mind, all would be good.

Tonya:


LOL....

Typical colorstruck black person.. right down to the laaaast word. Too funny.

Btw, you don't mind me calling you black, do you?

Tonya
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Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 06:59 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola:

Halle Berry, Vaness Williams
type of looks are a SYMBOL
of the White
People's VICTORY
over the Black
Americans.

That's what I see
when I see very LIGHT
or MIXED people. I see
the White Race's dominance.

. . .she is a SYMBOL of the
White man's VICTORY over my race

Tonya:

Wow Kola!!! -- Girl you are all too powerful....

I've never heard it put like that before.. but none can deny that it's true -- Stings like hell but it's true.


Tonya



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Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 07:12 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Nels let me ask you a question -- do you think that Jessica Simpson or Britney Spears would want to wake up one morning looking like Vanessa or Halle?

If your answer is no, some of us black women feel as Jessica & Britney do.

Tonya
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Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 07:18 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola, for what it's worth (I'm sure you'd rather hear it from a black man.. lol), I think you are a lot more beautiful than Vanessa Williams.



Tonya
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Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 09:39 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If light-skinned people represent victory, then that makes dark-skinned people losers. Kola and her ilk should petition who ever is in charge of such things, and request that one of America's possessions in the Pacific be set aside for authetic African Americans, some little island where they can all amass and be free to hate everybody who doesn't look like them. Kola, of course, would be in charge and somewhere, someplace Hitler would be pleased.
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Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 01:32 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks, Tonya.

I think so, too.




And Cynique---it's YOUR ancestors that would be pleased. Not Hitler.

You're such a fucking disappointment to them.

Now go coddle your white grandbabies and chat on the phone with your Sissy Spacek-looking daughter in law about MEAN EVIL KOLA.

Like I give a fuck!





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Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 04:17 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Poor ol kola. Feel better now that you've gotten the fix you get from convincing yourself that my grandchildren are white? What a pathetic idiot you are. Now go on over and let those little chimps of yours out their cage. They're waiting for their mommy to feed them some bananas.
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Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 04:41 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

What I said is true.

When you look at Halle Berry

...you don't see a woman who
goes with the African landscape.

HELL---when you look at "ME",
you don't see a woman who goes
with the African landscape.

I prefer BLACK beauty, because
that is my race.

Halle is beautiful, but she is
a SYMBOL of the White man's
VICTORY over my race---which is
just how Southern Sudanese see
me in SUDAN.....and they're
right. My looks do SYMBOLIZE
the victory of the Arab over the
Black Africans.


Africans have always been diverse in their features and skin thones. Southern Sudanese are not representatives of how real African looks, the same way Ethiopians or Morrocans or Bush man South Africa are not representatives of all Africans. Africans have more diverse features and skin thone than any other contenent.


Pure Africans could look like Halle Berry too


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Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 04:46 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Whether they're born in Africa to Africans or not

---anyone who looks like Halle Berry DOES NOT look African.

There are millions of Africans born in Africa...who DO NOT look African. In fact, most of them would kill you if you called them "black" or "African".

And as Anunaki3600 (who lives in Kenya right now) stated in another thread---in most African countries they would refer to a woman who looks like Halle Berry as "White".....as brown as she is.

Queen Latifah and Jill Scott are light skinned black women who LOOK African.





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Whether they're born in Africa to Africans or not

---anyone who looks like Halle Berry DOES NOT look African.

There are millions of Africans born in Africa...who DO NOT look African. In fact, most of them would kill you if you called them "black" or "African".

And as Anunaki3600 (who lives in Kenya right now) stated in another thread---in most African countries they would refer to a woman who looks like Halle Berry as "White".....as brown as she is.

Queen Latifah and Jill Scott are light skinned black women who LOOK African.


Kola what about people from Horn of Africa who always had softer features than other Africans, What Egyptians and the Nubians with soft features or North Africans with soft features and lighter skin, Are these people all foriegn to Africa. What about the The Bush man in South Africa, they look as much oriental as African.



http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~dzs/news/nefertiti.jpg


http://www.bluffton.edu/~sullivanm/egypt/cairo/nefertiti.jpg


http://www.domainofman.com/assets/akhenaten-s.jpg





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Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 04:58 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Africans have always been diverse in their features and skin thones.




More American bullshit. You need to go to AFRICA and see what the people in Africa tell you.

Stop listening to the ones who tell you what you want to hear......and go to the real people in the real nations.

And Ethiopians look more like South Sudanese....than the minority MIXED RACE Ethiopians who are shown on t.v. and populate the capital city.

This is what the majority of Ethiopia looks like:








THIS is the American
image of what Ethiopians
look like....which only
accounts the MIXED upper
class Ethiopian minority


Light skinned Ethiopians





You make excuses for why don't want to be "BLACK" by trying to use Africa as some "fictional mixed continent".

GO THERE. You'll see just how black Africa is.


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We've always had a few TOKEN "mixed people"----but you can't really claim the place is DIVERSE.

That's not true.

It's an invention of "American T.V."






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"More American bullshit. You need to go to AFRICA and see what the people in Africa tell you.

Stop listening to the ones who tell you what you want to hear......and go to the real people in the real nations.

And Ethiopians look more like South Sudanese....than the minority MIXED RACE Ethiopians who are shown on t.v. and populate the capital city.

This is what the majority of Ethiopia looks like:"


I born in Mogadishu Somali, which is in Africa. Although I have never been to Ethiopia I'm 100% sure vast majority of Ethiopians don't look like Southern Sudanese. The vast majority of Ethiopian I have met the (Habashe, Oromas, Hararians, and Afars) resemble more like the people in your last picture.
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We've always had a few TOKEN "mixed people"----but you can't really claim the place is DIVERSE.

That's not true.

It's an invention of "American T.V."


Harari, Habeshes, Barawanees would qualify as mixed race people in Horn of Africa. The Oromas have less than 10% genetics foriegn genetics, SOmalis have less than 15% of foriegn genetics and less than 5% of genetics found among central/west African, the rest 80% is mainly found among Oromas, Afars, and among Berbers.
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Wazzup with the white Kid..
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Tonya --

"Btw, you don't mind me calling you black, do you?"

Not at all.
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Samater has lived as a refugee in the US for toooo long and lost touch with AFRICA. Most Somalies and Ethiopians look like Bantu's and look exactly like the pictures KOLA has shown above the mixed looking Amharas. Just look at the old issues of National Geographic magazine on Ethiopia and Somalia (during Black hawk down time). Self-hating Africans might as well live in Amerikkka and clean up after the elderly retired folks like the Refugees from Somalia do in Minnesota or park cars in NY or LA. WE DON'T WANT YOU IN AFRICA (good riddence).
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Tonya said:
Nels let me ask you a question -- do you think that Jessica Simpson or Britney Spears would want to wake up one morning looking like Vanessa or Halle?

If your answer is no, some of us black women feel as Jessica & Britney do.

Re: Truer words have never been spoken. I was on a site where I mentioned that Britney Spears' sister looked kind of dark skinned for a white girl, and since she's from Louisiana, maybe they're part cajun. You should have seen the white people there pitch a damn FIT that there's NO WAY SHE'S PART ANYTHING, she's just TANNED. Only WE push multiracial as being better than pure.
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"Samater has lived as a refugee in the US for toooo long and lost touch with AFRICA. Most Somalies and Ethiopians look like Bantu's and look exactly like the pictures KOLA has shown above the mixed looking Amharas. Just look at the old issues of National Geographic magazine on Ethiopia and Somalia (during Black hawk down time). Self-hating Africans might as well live in Amerikkka and clean up after the elderly retired folks like the Refugees from Somalia do in Minnesota or park cars in NY or LA. WE DON'T WANT YOU IN AFRICA (good riddence)."

The only Somalis that look bantus are bantus ethnically and are descendents of slaves Arabs, Persian slave trader brought to Somali. Their original homeland was Southern Kenya and Tanzania not Somalia. Ethiopia are diverse, but vast majority of them the Habashee, Kushitic speakers look allot like Somalis.

I don't need your permission to be in Africa. I already have tribal land and country to fix in Northern Somalia.



The girls on the right are Somali, while the girl on the left is Kenyan Bantu.
http://www.mplsredcross.org/Somali%20Independence%20Day2.jpg

http://www.kulcha.com.au/fiesta_kultura/Ethiopia_290.jpg


http://www.africa.upenn.edu/Ethiopia_GIFS/buna_15879.gif

http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/yourlondon/unitedcolours/images/ethiopian_culture_da ncetroupe.jpg

http://www.ocha-eth.org/Photos/photos/People/OromogirlNew.jpg

http://pics-07.hi5.com/userpics/507/103/103169507.img.jpg


http://www.shareero.com/gallery/albums/Somalia80s/normal_SomaliDance.jpg



http://www.selamta.net/Afar%20man.jpg



http://www.ocha-eth.org/Photos/photos/People/AfarmanNew.jpg



http://www.awqashtravel.com/Images/afar-gold.jpg

http://www.ethiopie.50megs.com/afars9.JPG

http://www.univ.edu.dj/crriplus/artisanat/images/Affar.jpg


http://flatstanley.enoreo.on.ca/images/Djibouti-stanley02.jpg


http://www.fotokunst.as/Somalia/Somalian_woman.jpg

http://pics-54.hi5.com/userpics/154/947/94775154.img.jpg

http://pics-21.hi5.com/userpics/421/705/70519421.img.jpg

http://www.refugeefamilyservices.org/images/culture_celeb/Bridal_Party.jpg

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Anunaki3600 The only self-Hating African I see is you and Kola Boof who carved her face to look more like something she is not. If you are not a self-hating African than you wouldn't have problem with Africans who look different and besides East African look is not alien to Africa since both Egyptian, and Nubian had similiar elongated features you see in East Africa.

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Samater, Kola is a foolish psychotic on welfare who can't get her shit together. That's why she made up this silly fairy tale about her sucking Osama's dick. Few people(other than some suckers and lame-brained fags)want to hear her whining about color and race.
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"Samater has lived as a refugee in the US for toooo long and lost touch with AFRICA. Most Somalies and Ethiopians look like Bantu's and look exactly like the pictures KOLA has shown above the mixed looking Amharas. Just look at the old issues of National Geographic magazine on Ethiopia and Somalia (during Black hawk down time). Self-hating Africans might as well live in Amerikkka and clean up after the elderly retired folks like the Refugees from Somalia do in Minnesota or park cars in NY or LA. WE DON'T WANT YOU IN AFRICA (good riddence).

most ethiopians that i've seen don't look like bantu's...the majority of the ones i've seen look closer to halle berry,rosario dawson and nia long than they do alek wek....in fact there is only 1 ethiopian i met that had what we would label "typical african features" and that was in elementary school and even she had a kind of thin nose.


and anyway...to say that because someone doesn't have dark skin they don't represent african features is untrue....pygmies don't have darkskin and they have very slanted eyes to where they look closer to asians than they do west africans. They look more like asians with kinky hair and medium brown to light brown skin.

And guess what the first african was.....a pygmy.....so it's a complete folly to portray dark skinned blacks as the most authentic blacks since the first africans looked almost nothing liek them. Therefore, africans only got darker as they spread out over africa and in some palces they stayed the same color...and to tell the truth a lot of unmixed africans have wavy hair instead of kinky hair...that's just how diverse "black genes" are. We didn't have to mix with peole outside of africa to have all of the diverse featurs we have.


however,rather the first african was dark or not in no way means that it's not important to fight agaisnt the white and light skinned beauty standard and i think it's stupid to label someone jealous just because they're sick of this beauty standard being paraded in their faces everyday.

I get sick of everything black women do being overly simplified into pure jealousy.....you never hear people accusing light skinned women of being jealous of darker skinned women when they discriminate agaisnt dark women or use terms like monkey and jigaboo to describe them.

I have to ask the question...How come black men aren't as quick to defend dark women as they are light women? I believe i already know the answer to this.

i think it's important for all women of color rather dark or light skin to fight agaisnt this white/ light skinned beauty standard...however what i've noticed is that most light skinned women uphold it....I personally don't see what they ahve to gain from upholding it because we lighter ones are still being judged by the same standard that our darker sisters are held to and that's the standard of whiteness.

For light/mixed women to adhere to the belief that ligth skin is more attractive than dark skin does nothing more than confirm the idea that white femininity is the ideal for a woman. To me it's stupid that so many of our sisters buy into this crap and try to use the shit to their advantage.

you can never fight the system by working within it...it jsut doesn't work that way.





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Kola what about people from Horn of Africa who always had softer features than other Africans, "What Egyptians and the Nubians with soft features or North Africans with soft features and lighter skin, Are these people all foriegn to Africa. What about the The Bush man in South Africa, they look as much oriental as African. "


samater...i have to ask you a question...why do you keep labeling these features softer? as if broader noses, thick lips, wider eyes and darker skin represent a harder look.

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most ethiopians that i've seen don't look like bantu's...the majority of the ones i've seen look closer to halle berry,rosario dawson and nia long than they do alek wek....in fact there is only 1 ethiopian i met that had what we would label "typical african features" and that was in elementary school and even she had a kind of thin nose.


That's because those are the ELITE CLASS who can afford to leave Ethiopia and come to the U.S.

They are also the ones constantly shown on television, especially by colorstruck Americans----until it's time to raise funds with a "WE ARE THE WORLD" anthem

...and then suddenly, it is revealed what the VAST MAJORITY of the nation of Ethiopia actually looks like.

Which is very black, nappyheaded and thick-featured, albeit Nilotic Bantu, not Negroid.



COLORISM is the reason for this.

You say that "race" is a social construct.

The real problem is that "color" is NOT. Color is real and tangible.

And just because you say that humans create "race"---

It's not going to change the way HUMANS have treated other humans for hundreds of thousands of years.

It won't make any difference at all.


These people---the MINORITY "mixed blooded" Ethiopians, who when in the U.S. deny they're even mixed---are the face of what is truly a Blue Black Nation, once you get outside the capital city of "Addis Abbaba".




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Misty,

I gave you 5 stars for this:


i think it's important for all women of color rather dark or light skin to fight agaisnt this white/ light skinned beauty standard...however what i've noticed is that most light skinned women uphold it....I personally don't see what they ahve to gain from upholding it because we lighter ones are still being judged by the same standard that our darker sisters are held to and that's the standard of whiteness.

For light/mixed women to adhere to the belief that ligth skin is more attractive than dark skin does nothing more than confirm the idea that white femininity is the ideal for a woman. To me it's stupid that so many of our sisters buy into this crap and try to use the shit to their advantage.

you can never fight the system by working within it...it jsut doesn't work that way.


It's so FRIGHTENINGLY true.

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“That's because those are the ELITE CLASS who can afford to leave Ethiopia and come to the U.S.”

Ok…I see what you’re getting at…I didn’t know all of that. Sounds like the same way it is in the black community in america….most of the more well to do blacks tend to be lighter skinned…you could see that in the Katrina incedent……I know louisianna has tons of light skinned people but most of the people that I saw stranded and not being able to drive away were darker skinned.

“They are also the ones constantly shown on television, especially by colorstruck Americans----until it's time to raise funds with a "WE ARE THE WORLD" anthem”

Ok…this is something I hadn’t noticed because most of the ones that they show t.v. are darker skinned in that we are the world stuff. I even assumed that they were hand picking them to represent Africa because they didn’t want the world to see how diverse Africa was. They wanted the stereotypes to remain in tact and I also feel they want to show that dark skin always represents poverty. I don’t know, maybe our definitions of light and dark are different….because I usually see darker children on t.v. when they speak of Africans and the plight of Africa, especially in those campaigns.



COLORISM is the reason for this.

You say that "race" is a social construct.

The real problem is that "color" is NOT. Color is real and tangible.

Just to challenge your reasoning on this subject, if you say color is what separates races then would you say that a pygmy (who is usually brown skinned and short) is the same race as a watusi who is usually tall and jet black? If we’re going to separate everything into skin color wouldn’t we have to separate the entire African nation?

Also if you’re going by skin color would you still say an untouchable person from India who is darker than a pygmy would you say they’re the same race? The untouchables in India are often darker than most Africans. Would you say that a dark Italian is the same race as a light Irishman? To go even farther would a white Irishman with a tan still be the same race as w hite Irishman without one?…LOL… In order to separate everything by skin color we have to be consistant.

Anyway, there is less genetic varitation between skin color than height….there is like 10% more genetic variation between a short person and a tall person than between people with different skin colors. So if we go by that and try to still say that race exists we would have to say that a pygmy is a different race from a tall Nigerian.

“And just because you say that humans create "race"---

It's not going to change the way HUMANS have treated other humans for hundreds of thousands of years. It won't make any difference at all. ”

You’re preaching to the chior on this one because I completely agree…..I said something similar in one of my other posts on this board.




These people---the MINORITY "mixed blooded" Ethiopians, who when in the U.S. deny they're even mixed---are the face of what is truly a Blue Black Nation, once you get outside the capital city of "Addis Abbaba".


Maybe some fo them are not mixed….there are pure, unmixed Africans with those features although they don’t repsresent the majority of the African contenent.


“I gave you 5 stars for this”

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Africa is not a "nation", it's a continent with many nations.

Here in America, IMO, WE group more people together than they would group themselves.

TO US, Chinese and Japanese are basically the same. Tell them they're the same and you're looking for a serious fight ("memoirs of a geisha" was banned in china because they so resent a chinese woman being used to represent a japanese woman). A dear good friend of mine would date Korean, Japanese, and even BLACK women, but wouldn't touch a Chinese with a ten foot pole.

TO US, Indians, Sri Lankans, and Bangladeshis are the same. They even used to be the same country. But they found themselves so different that they wanted to be separated from each other. That's the reason why Indian matrimonials look specifically for "Gujarati" or "Tamil" or "Kashmiri" spouses rather than accepting responses simply from "Indians".

In this same way, even though we only see dark skin and think they should just "lump themselves together", a Nigerian and a pygmy may find themselves different enough to think of themselves as a different group. Putting everyone together in one "race" is an American thing, not a global thing.

South Indians, Sri Lankans, and Bangladeshis are often darker skinned than black people, but they don't have the hair we have. So, they're hardly us.

I can't say much of how white people group themselves because I don't know. I do know that in the south, dark skinned whites get really offended if you think they may be "cajun", which would imply mixed blood. Tans wouldn't matter because they fade quickly. I've been tanned before myself. They last maybe 2 weeks, which is why those who tan religiously do it so often. If a white Irishman were to tan to be non-white, he wouldn't be non-white long enough for it to matter.
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Perhaps we feel the way we do because we don't know EXACTLY which tribe or nation we came from. And a lot of us may even be from various tribes. But, we know we're from AFRICA, and so accept all of Africa as us. We're just GENERIC Africans.

A Gujarati person KNOWS they're not just a generic "Indian", but specifically Gujarati. A Japanese person KNOWS they're not just a generic "Asian", and that makes a big difference to them.
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MISTY.....We are the world

You misread my "We Are the World" comment...you didn't notice the word "until"; meaning they don't drag out the dark people UNTIL it's time to raise money for the starving Ethiopians.

Just to challenge your reasoning on this subject, if you say color is what separates races then would you say that a pygmy (who is usually brown skinned and short) is the same race as a watusi who is usually tall and jet black? If we’re going to separate everything into skin color wouldn’t we have to separate the entire African nation?

But "chocolate" colored Muslim Sudanese....are killing "charcoal" black Muslim Sudanese in Darfur right now as we speak---surely you've seen the news? So it proves my point.

Of course, those "chocolate" Muslim Sudanese are Half Arab--the products of colonialism/slavery. They come from the charcoals. So again--racist people AFFECTED the skin shading, not nature.

"Color" is the arbiter through which RACISTS taught us to hate. And it's very real.

Few Black American women would be welcoming to my birth mother if she walked up to their house and asked for a drink of water. They call themselves "black women"---and yet they would be terrified of my mother's complexion and foreign looks, no matter how "American" she acted.

And don't forget that the SLAVE TRADE and COLONIALISM introduced quite a bit of racial mixing in Africa---causing an increase in lighter brown and chocolate peoples.

STILL...when you go to Africa, the color is more uniformed. People who come in shades of "blue black" and shades of "chocolate"......are vastly more ALIKE than those whose skin is yellow and whose hair is weakened by Non-black blood.

I prefer the African way inwhich we are grouped by color, hair texture and facial features. It's more accurate. All of us of any shade of SIGNIFICANT BROWN are thereby considered "Black"---and that is the African standard. Hair and facial features distinguish us from the dark mixed people in INDIA.

Also if you’re going by skin color would you still say an untouchable person from India who is darker than a pygmy would you say they’re the same race? The untouchables in India are often darker than most Africans. Would you say that a dark Italian is the same race as a light Irishman?

No, we don't consider these people to be African or part of black people----although we're well aware that they came from our migrated stock thousands of years ago.

They are mixed...no longer possessing African (nappy hair) or facial features of any African tribe (Bantu, Nilotic, Negroid, Pygmy--not even Berber or Beja).

If they wish to call themselves "black people", that would make sense and would make Africans happy, but they don't wish to do that.

Maybe some fo them are not mixed….there are pure, unmixed Africans with those features although they don’t repsresent the majority of the African contenent.

This is not true.

Somewhere down the line, there is blood in their family that is not African. Otherwise, they would not look like Persians and Arabs.

I notice Black Americans will claim that Lena Horne is "not mixed"---because both of her parents were considered black by the U.S. one drop rule.

But that one drop rule is a total lie. This woman is the daughter of mixed parents whose families had OTHER RACES in their bloodline.




To me...it's confused, self-hating Black Americans who want so desperately to eradicate any type of racial identification----so that they no longer have to be black.

So that they no longer have obligations to any group affiliation...but WHITE and becoming whiter.

That's what I see.

I love my black coloring and I loved my charcoal mother's beautiful flesh, and I love my African hair. I don't ever want to be separated from those things--because they are AFRICAN.













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But "chocolate" colored Muslim Sudanese....are killing "charcoal" black Muslim Sudanese in Darfur right now as we speak---surely you've seen the news? So it proves my point.”

Yeah…the same as charchol colored blacks Hill eachother everyday

“Of course, those "chocolate" Muslim Sudanese are Half Arab--the products of colonialism/slavery. They come from the charcoals. So again--racist people AFFECTED the skin shading, not nature.”

That may be trae for some of the sudanese but it doesn’t make it truew for all africans…case iun point…the pygmies have little to no outside admixture and their skin rangers from dark to brown to Light brown. There was alos a special that CAME o non nacional geographic where they had this secluded african tribe who was all of a suden doping out blue eyed blonde haired babies wiht Light skin…some of them had straight hair and some had nappy hair. Anyway, they were saying it had to do with evolution.



“Few Black American women would be welcoming to my birth mother if she walked up to their house and asked for a drink of water. They call themselves "black women"---and yet they would be terrified of my mother's complexion and foreign looks, no matter how "American" she acted. “

That’s probably true because they’re not use to seeing anyone liek that.

“And don't forget that the SLAVE TRADE and COLONIALISM introduced quite a bit of racial mixing in Africa---causing an increase in lighter brown and chocolate peoples.”

I agree…howeve rit still doesn’t mean that every person you see who is lighter than charcol or lighter than dark jsut has to be mixed with something

“STILL...when you go to Africa, the color is more uniformed. People who come in shades of "blue black" and shades of "chocolate"......are vastly more ALIKE than those whose skin is yellow and whose hair is weakened by Non-black blood. “

Even if that were true…..as i said earlier……people of different heights are farther apart in terms of genes than people who have different skin colors if we sopeak in terms of biology and genetics. That means that GENETICALLY speaking, a tall african and a tall european have more in commmon than a short african and a tall african do. I was also watching the news and they were discussing the same issue. Biologists ran tests on people of different racial and ethnic groups. They took saliva and vlood simples. Thery tested asians, blacks, africans, whites, etc. They found that out of the 2 dark skinned blacks on the show they had almost nothing in common genetically. The dark black girl had more in common with the asian girl that they tested than she did the dark black guy and the dark black guy had more in common genetically with the white girl than he did the black girl. So things arne’t as simple as they sem. In terms of genetics.
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"I prefer the African way inwhich we are grouped by color, hair texture and facial features. It's more accurate. All of us of any shade of SIGNIFICANT BROWN are thereby considered "Black"---and that is the African standard. Hair and facial features distinguish us from the dark mixed people in INDIA. "


The only reason i think this definition is accurate is because it's the basis that we were descriminated agaisnt on but it has absolutely nothing to do with biology and genetics, especially when everyone (black, white, asian, arab, etc.)can lay claim to thewir ancestors being from africa.


"No, we don't consider these people to be African or part of black people----although we're well aware that they came from our migrated stock thousands of years ago.

They are mixed...no longer possessing African (nappy hair) or facial features of any African tribe (Bantu, Nilotic, Negroid, Pygmy--not even Berber or Beja)."


that's not true. In fact the dilits in africa are some of the least racially mixed people on the planet. Very few of them are mixed because of the caste system in india where they up until recently forbade mixture....and this process is still going on in some secluded parts of india.


"To me...it's confused, self-hating Black Americans who want so desperately to eradicate any type of racial identification----so that they no longer have to be black.

So that they no longer have obligations to any group affiliation...but WHITE and becoming whiter.

That's what I see."


yeah and anyone who labels someone self hating simply because they don't agree with the racial categories that they made up for themselves or that they think is accurate is denying reality and is also brainwashed and confused in a way by whites who made up these racial categories. And it's fallacy to label people who you have only seen like 4 posts form becaus ei have a very stong black identity and see myself as black (eventhough you may not because to you light skinned people aren't black) although i know for a fact that the concept of race is biologically inconsistant and hypocritical.


what's funny is that you want to oust the light skinned people from the black race but when you THINK for a second that they are trying to distance themselves from the black race you want to point fingers, judge and claim they're confused and brainwashed. If i was trying to distance myself from the black community then i wouldn'yt be supporting ANY issues concerning black women or black people in general,,,i wouldn't see a needto fight agaisnt eurpocentric ideals and beauty standards because i wouldn't care since i was supposeldly so distant.

i'm simply telling the truth about what I see.


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Africa is not a "nation", it's a continent with many nations.

I know that.....it was an unconscious mistake becaue i had been reading where people would refer to africa as "the african nation" for so long i guess it got into my subconscious.

"Here in America, IMO, WE group more people together than they would group themselves."

so true....no one groups them,sevles togather as laegely as we do in america.....the irish and the italians didn't become white until the "white" people who had been in this country for so long saw that they could gain politically by including them into the white category.

"TO US, Chinese and Japanese are basically the same. Tell them they're the same and you're looking for a serious fight ("memoirs of a geisha" was banned in china because they so resent a chinese woman being used to represent a japanese woman). A dear good friend of mine would date Korean, Japanese, and even BLACK women, but wouldn't touch a Chinese with a ten foot pole."


so true.....a philipean in the philipeans would get mad at you if you called him japanese...again it just shows how much race is a social construct.



"In this same way, even though we only see dark skin and think they should just "lump themselves together", a Nigerian and a pygmy may find themselves different enough to think of themselves as a different group. Putting everyone together in one "race" is an American thing, not a global thing."


right

"South Indians, Sri Lankans, and Bangladeshis are often darker skinned than black people, but they don't have the hair we have. So, they're hardly us."

some of them have the same texture hair as a black person with an asian or native american grandparent or great grandparent would. My mom told me she went to schoolk with a black guy who looked jsut like he was from india....but his parents were both black.

"I can't say much of how white people group themselves because I don't know. I do know that in the south, dark skinned whites get really offended if you think they may be "cajun", which would imply mixed blood. Tans wouldn't matter because they fade quickly. I've been tanned before myself. They last maybe 2 weeks, which is why those who tan religiously do it so often. If a white Irishman were to tan to be non-white, he wouldn't be non-white long enough for it to matter."

right...but if those white peole moved to a warmer climet...their skin would mutate and they would become genetically darker throughout the generations but does this mean they would be a different race?
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Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 05:13 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola i have a question for you....both my parents are brown...but my brother came out almost blue black and i came out light brown...does that make us all different races?

i hope your answer to this isn't yes...lol.

wohat would you say about our situation
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You brother is the most Authentic Black, obviously.

He has more black blood from Africa.

Maybe your white and Indian ancestors showed up more in your blood.

In a BASTARDIZED SOCIETY---most Irish families are not "equally" Irish. In some of them, the Scottish or the Welsh or the Russian is more SHOWY. But, of course, that's why they mix almost exclusively with other Whites. To atleast maintain their European beauty.

In America, it's normal for blacks in the same family to come in all manner of shades, so I don't see the problem.

It's not that way in Africa---where Black people come from. Or even in the West Indies, where most families look alike and have a more uniformed coloring, whatever that color is.



And last up:

My only resentment is when someone who LOOKS "Hawaiian" tries to tell me that she's just as black as I am and that she's just as authentic.

Bullshit.

She's MIXED and we are no longer the same people once that occurs.

She will now be treated as a "Mixed" person--more ambiguously---and I will be treated as a "black" person and will be considered inferior to her.

So we are no longer the same, you see.



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"He has more black blood from Africa."

How?....i have the same exact blood because we're both from the same parents...LOL


"In a BASTARDIZED SOCIETY---most Irish families are not "equally" Irish. In some of them, the Scottish or the Welsh or the Russian is more SHOWY. But, of course, that's why they mix almost exclusively with other Whites. To atleast maintain their European beauty."


people mix more than anybody.....blacks are the least likely to mix with anything...if you ask me whites actually ahve more self hate problems than blacks eventhough they are the ones trying to force their beauty standards on everyone....that's why the world is getting darker but as i said in another post...natural selection wins out in a lot of cases. I've also heard a lot of whites tease eachother for being too pale or overly pale.


"My only resentment is when someone who LOOKS "Hawaiian" tries to tell me that she's just as black as I am and that she's just as authentic.

Bullshit.

She's MIXED and we are no longer the same people once that occurs.

She will now be treated as a "Mixed" person--more ambiguously---and I will be treated as a "black" person and will be considered inferior to her.

So we are no longer the same, you see."


hmmm...mixed people's experiences are actually jsut as mixed as they are. to some people they are nothing more than light skinned blacks and get treated the same and to some they are treated better brcause of their light skin. But i see what you're getting at...they atill doen't have to face as much of the constant degridation everyday as dark skinned blacks do. At least they get the priviledge of being treated better in SOME cases depending on their surroundings.

Anyway, if people finds out that a nlack woman who looks hawiian has a black parent or if her child comes out too dark...some people will still treat her as they treat any other black...again her experiences vary. So, mixed women can actually relate to dark women on a lot of issue although they don't havew to experience the hatered to the same degree.

BTW....did you see the other 2 posts that i posted to you today before the last one. Right beforw the one that you responded to?

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