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NANNY HUNT CAN BE A 'SLAP IN THE FACE' FOR BLACKS

Written by JODI KANTOR
Tuesday, 26 December 2006

Last month, Jennifer Freeman sat in a Chicago coffee bar, counting her blessings and considering her problem. She had a husband with an M.B.A. degree, two children and a job offer that would let her dig out the education degree she had stashed away during years of playdates and potty training.


But she could not accept the job. After weeks of searching, Ms. Freeman, who is African-American, still could not find a nanny for her son, 5, and daughter, 3. Agency after agency told her they had no one to send to her South Side home.


As more blacks move up the economic ladder, one fixture — some would say necessity — of the upper-middle-class income bracket often eludes them. Like hailing a cab in Midtown Manhattan, searching for a nanny can be an exasperating, humiliating exercise for many blacks, the kind of ordeal that makes them wonder aloud what year it is.


“We’ve attained whatever level society says is successful, we’re included at work, but when we need the support for our children and we can afford it, why do we get treated this way?” asked Tanisha Jackson, an African-American mother of three in a Washington suburb, who searched on and off for five years before hiring a nanny. “It’s a slap in the face.”


Numerous black parents successfully employ nannies, and many sitters say they pay no regard to race. But interviews with dozens of nannies and agencies that employ them in Atlanta, Chicago, New York and Houston turned up many nannies — often of African-American or Caribbean descent themselves — who avoid working for families of those backgrounds. Their reasons included accusations of low pay and extra work, fears that employers would look down at them, and suspicion that any neighborhood inhabited by blacks had to be unsafe.


The result is that many black parents do not have the same child care options as their colleagues and neighbors. They must settle for illegal immigrants or non-English speakers instead of more experienced or credentialed nannies, rely on day care or scale back their professional aspirations to spend more time at home.


“Very rarely will an African-American woman work for an African-American boss,” said Pat Cascio, the owner of Morningside Nannies in Houston and the president of the International Nanny Association.


Many of the African-American nannies who make up 40 percent of her work force fear that people of their own color will be “uppity and demanding,” said Ms. Cascio, who is white. After interviews, she said, those nannies “will call us and say, ‘Why didn’t you tell me’ ” the family is black?


In several cities, nanny agencies decline to serve certain geographic areas — not because of redlining, these agencies say, but because the nannies, who decide which jobs to take, do not want to work there. “I can’t service everyone,” said Maria Christopoulos-Katris, owner of Nanny Boutique, an agency that turned down Ms. Freeman’s request, even though it claims to cater to the city of Chicago. “I don’t discriminate.”


Ms. Freeman finally found a friend, another black mother, to watch her children.


Similarly, Ms. Jackson was told by some of the best-known nanny agencies in Washington that they did not serve Prince George’s County, Md., a largely black area bordering the District of Columbia.


“We have problems getting people to certain areas because of logistics,” said Barbara Kline, the owner of White House Nannies, which Ms. Jackson contacted. “I’m always worried people will interpret it the wrong way.” She added, “Nannies like to go where other nannies go or where their previous jobs were.” Ms. Jackson noted that White House Nannies served other suburbs, and that a bus stopped just minutes from her house.


Agencies represent only a small slice of nannies; most work through informal arrangements, further out of reach of civil rights and labor laws. (Because so many nannies are illegal, no one can say with certainty how many work in this country, let alone work for black families.)


In visits, telephone calls and e-mail exchanges across the country, nannies of all colors spoke of parents in sweeping ethnic generalizations: the Jews this, the Indians that. Viola Waszkiewicz, a white sitter in Chicago, has cared for black children, but explained that many fellow Eastern European nannies would not.


“We come here, and we watch TV and the news, and all we see is black people who got hurt, got murdered,” she said. Most of the nannies she knows “think all black people are bad,” she said. “They’re afraid to go to black neighborhoods.”


Pamela Potischman, a social worker in Brooklyn who specializes in parent-nanny relationships, said, “You rely on what’s familiar, so you’re going to rely on these vast generalizations to be self-protective.” She added, “The nannies talk, and they say, ‘This is what’s O.K. and what to watch out for.’ ”


This summer, Tomasina and Eric Boone of Brooklyn sought a nanny for their baby girl because their jobs — she is the advertising beauty director for Essence magazine, he is a lawyer at Milbank Tweed — require evening hours. After a Manhattan agency did not return Ms. Boone’s call, they searched on their own, and sat through one stomach-curdling interview after another.


One sitter, a Caribbean woman living in Bedford-Stuyvesant, asked about the “colored” people in the Boones’ neighborhood, Clinton Hill. A Russian sitter said enthusiastically that although she had never cared for a black child, she could in this case, because little Emerie Boone, now 7 months old, was light-skinned. All sitters expressed surprise that a black couple could afford a four-story brownstone.


“There were points where I got so frustrated that I picked up my child and I said, ‘Tomasina will show you out,’ ” said Mr. Boone, who is African-American and serves on the board of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.


The Boones now use day care. It is inconvenient — the center closes at 6, often forcing Mr. Boone to race to Brooklyn and then back to his Midtown office. But “there is no way we’re doing the whole nanny thing again,” said Ms. Boone, who is African-American and Puerto Rican.


Mr. Boone said, “To have someone refer to other black people as ‘colored,’ what does that teach your child about race?”


Like Ms. Freeman in Chicago and Ms. Jackson in Maryland, the Boones worry that nanny troubles could limit their professional advancement. In earlier generations, Ms. Jackson said, “We were the nannies.” Now, blacks “want to have it all,” working and raising children. “But to have it all you need help,” she said.


And that means qualified help. “How can you do a background check when someone doesn’t have a driver’s license?” Ms. Jackson said. “I’m not going to take this nanny just because she’s the only one I can get.”


In an exception to the usual stroller parade of black sitters with white children, some white nannies do care for black children — and experience slights because of it. Margaret Kop, a Polish sitter in Chicago, said that on a recent playground visit, “one of the other nannies asked me, ‘Where did you find that monkey?’ ” On the way home, Ms. Kop cried, stung by the insult to the child she loved.


Some black sitters, both Caribbean and African-American, said they flat out refused to work for families of those backgrounds, accusing them of demanding more and paying less.


“It seems like our own color looks down on us and takes advantage of us,” said Pansy Scott, a Jamaican immigrant in Brooklyn, basing her conclusions on working for a single black family years ago. Ai-Jen Poo, lead organizer for Domestic Workers United, a labor group, said, “Domestic employees are at the whim of their employers,” good or bad. “If they happen to run into an employer who for whatever reason is not respecting their rights,” she said, they may draw wildly broad conclusions.


The problem may be as much about class as race, said Kimberly McClain DaCosta, a Harvard sociologist who is researching how blacks care for family members. For nannies, working for an employer of the same background or skin color “highlights their lower economic status,” she said, but “the fact that their employers are black just makes that more intense.”


Many black families say they seek only a sitter who is reliable and loving. But some do have race-based preferences themselves. African-American professionals, who constantly battle the stereotype that blacks do not speak proper English, sometimes hesitate to hire Caribbean nannies who speak with lilting accents or island patois, said Cameron L. Macdonald, an assistant professor of sociology at the University of Wisconsin, Madison.


These parents want their children “socialized into what it’s like to be black in a racist society, but they also want their children to be socialized into being middle class. That’s hard for one person to do,” said Ms. Macdonald, who is white.


Ms. DaCosta is an African-American parent herself. She and her husband, who is Caribbean, have successfully employed several nannies for their three children. Still, the hiring process has been tricky. They preferred a black sitter, who would instantly understand matters like how to do their daughter’s hair. At one point, Ms. DaCosta scouted playgrounds, so she could spy on nannies’ skin color as well as behavior; another time, she placed a race-neutral ad, and hid by the window as the prospective nannies drove up, sighing with relief when a black one appeared.


Ms. DaCosta and her husband now use au pairs, checking the photos on their applications and announcing their own race at the start of the phone interview. “We don’t want any surprises,” she said.

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Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 03:17 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

My piles bleed for them--
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This is DISGUSTING. Things like this make us black people a laughing stock. I've had similar experiences when hiring cleaning ladies from an agency. They cleaners they send are almost always black and when they arrive at my home and see that I am also black, their attitude is DISGRACEFUL. They snap at me, complain about how much work there is to do(even though they're getting paid by the hour), they purse their lips and complain complain complain. Typically they will say something like, "What kind of mop is that, go buy another one." I have white friends who use the same agency and the cleaners are super-polite to them. It's gotten to the point where I actually can't use a cleaning service anymore because it was such an unpleasant experience.
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Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 03:44 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, those are the breaks. That's what these black couples get for being successful. I'm sure all of those baby mamas out there in the ghetto are taking time off from watching their soap operas and doing their nails to laugh their weaves off about this bougie dilemma. I can hear em now saying "I tol ya so."
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Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 03:58 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Its a pretty sad day when the only people we can get to perform service jobs in a reasonable manner for us are whites.
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I'm mixed on this one because some Blacks CAN act snooty and uppity with those they've deemed "lower class" Blacks. And we all know that niggaz love getting over, no matter how much money they're making, so I wouldn't be surprised that some of these Black families are paying less and demanding more of those they've already deemed "lower class" and unworthy. But at the same time I know how some of us have a problem working for other Blacks, or what many call "The Head Nigga in Charge." I've managed several offices in my day, and I've always been the coolest person that anybody could work for, but still, the employees that I caught the most flak from were always Black or Hispanic and usually female; never white (not stereotyping, it's just the truth). And at times I was totally convinced that it had more to do with them not wanting to take orders from another Black person than anything else. So I'm split on this issue because I know that some blacks just don't like working for other Blacks.
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Case in point: me and a black friend went shopping at Banana Republic. The black sales assistant was downright rude, refused to help us and spoke to us in a very nasty tone. We then observed this same black sales assistant speak and behave in a very courteous way towards a white female customer. It was so bad that my friend actually asked to speak with the manager of the store (also a black woman). The manager told us that we were not the first black customers that day to have been treated nastily by that sales assistant. Seemed like she had a problem 'serving' black customers but yet had no problem treating white customers decently. I believe they had to let her go because there were just so many complaints coming in about her from black female customers.
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Maybe consider that many of them may have come from a town like my old hometown. There are NO black business owners in my old hometown. At one point, an uncle of mine purchased a convenience store. The word got around town that my uncle thought he was better than everyone else in town. He didn't say it, other black people just assumed he thought that way. He ended up not getting much business and sold the business to a white man. The business suddenly returned. Asian people come to this same town and open businesses with no problem. And NO ONE says they think they're better than black people....even though they KNOW it's true, they don't hold it against them.

Just like I pointed out in the Obama thread, black people here are so used to being under the white man's thumb, they get confused when they're not.

And they're tearing ALL of those ghettos down in Atlanta. Sending those baby mamas out into the suburbs.

Grady Homes....gone. The CONDOS that replaced them are starting in the low 100's for a ONE bedroom...they must be crazy!
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Heck....Condos in the West End are starting in the 150's and up....Who the hell in the West End can afford that? Chances are that those who can afford that amount.....wouldn't be living in the West End.
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Good points. 150 for a condo is considered expensive there?! Dayum!! Wehre IS this place??
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Atlanta, if you get a home in a cul de sac, you can get a 4 bedroom for 200,000 to 350,000 for a brand new home. If you want a condo in Midtown/Buckhead, you may be paying 400,000 for 2 bedrooms.

But for that particular area (West End), 150 is expensive for a one bedroom with no land. In that same area, you can get a 3 bedroom house with a nice yard for that amount.
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Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 05:49 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And Lola.......The one bedrooms at 100....quite a ways up for women who had 3 and 4 bedrooms that they weren't paying anything for.

The Grady area won't be predominantly black for long.
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I hate to say this but the woman who will only hire a Black nanny (the one that hides by the window to see who pulls up) is practicing racial discrimination. And in matters of employment, that is illegal. I understand we have a preference for dealing with our own people, but what she's doing is wrong.

It sounds like this problem is being exacerbated by the parents themselves, because they are being overly choicy. Some of these people sound like they require a nanny with a Ph.D. The older children are still going to school so what difference does it make if the nanny has an accent? She could teach the younger children a second language, which is something that never hurts. More of us need to be bilingual anyway.

Once someone provides their résumé, you do a background check/criminal investigation and you base your decision on that. If for some reason, the nanny doesn't work out, then you hire another one. But to use the excuse that you couldn't find a suitable Black nanny, and that this is hampering you from pursuing your own career goals is plain lame-o.

My children are grown so I don't have to deal with these problems, but if it was me - I'd hire a Mexican and be done with it. Not necessarily an illegal alien, there are plenty of legitimate Mexicans around. I'm not saying that I would leave my children with just anyone, but most Mexicans are very nice people. And if you need a nanny to be available in the evenings, you need to hire a live in nanny or a live in maid. Take your pick.
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HOWEVER, it is nice to see that there are some black people here with money.

Southwest Hospital was closed due to debts and things like that. THREE (only THREE) doctors purchased it, paid all of the debts, and re-opened it, renaming it Legacy Hospital.

In the 50's and 60's, it was one of the very few hospitals that would accept blacks in this entire area. The doctors said that they don't want to shut it down in respect to its history.
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Whatever....no one ever complains about all of those ads in the papers specifically asking for a HINDI or GUJARATI speaking nanny.

I have heard of black people in the US hiring asian nannies, but usually they've married into asian families.
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Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 06:17 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Renata - It's NOT illegal to require your applicant to speak a certain language.
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I don't agree with all of the bs that's used to keep black people from applying for jobs. This is just some clever way for people to make sure that ONLY Indian people apply for jobs and no one who looks like US show up. I see right through that bullshit. As long as they can choose that ONLY Indians take care of their kids, I have a right to choose that only blacks take care of mine.
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Oh be quiet Renata, you're a stay at home babymomma anyway, so who cares.
Even if you had a real job, you couldn't find ANYONE to care for that evil
little juvenile delinquent of yours if you paid them a million dollars. LOLOL!
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My child goes to day care, witch.
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What Ever!
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My first thought after reading this is to say that these women are not facing anything new. Finding that "having it all" is not really possible? Many upper middle class White women have already discovered that. Finding that in a "sellers market" of child care providing, it may be you who are the object of the "hired help's" whims and prejudices? Again, nothing new.

I conceed I may not be one to comment, though. I came to this realization early, and adjusted my career plans accordingly. But I realize not every woman or man wants to do this, nor will every woman's or man's career allow this kind of flexibility.

These women will just have to find creative solutions to their dilemma: Advertise on Black college campuses for young women who will live with them for a year in exchange for $ for college. Do nanny "sharing." Start their own nanny co-ops. They'll think of something.
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Exactly. Necessity is the mother of invention. And I believe that you are an authentic entrepreneur Yvette. You just developed three new workable business models right here on this forum.
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I can afford a Nanny but I never needed one. Extended family my mother aunts and church friends did so much when my sons were little boys and I dont think I even considered getting a Nanny. Many well off blacks probably dont even hire help. If was to do so I've been told that Jamaicans and other foreign blacks are best choice.



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Clean your own damn house, take care of your own damn babies or have a relative do it.
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Chrishayden: are you crazy?! Why on earth would my relatives have time or inclination to come over and clean my house???? And since I have the money to not do it myself - why should I? That sounds so ghetto to suggest that relatives should or would do it.
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Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 02:45 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

How about you go clean your toilet right now, lolo, and give the board a respite from your stifling presence. Thank goodness for people like Yvette and Mzuri who provide a relief from your inanity. Whew!
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Lolo:

Oh and it ain't ghetto to just turn your kids over to some stranger and run off--

I know I am getting nowhere on this, because everybody thinks you have arrived when you get some foreign flunky to do what you should be doing (a foreign flunky sitting there, seeing you all the time and building up for the time he or she slits your throat or lets a bunch of relatives clean out your house) but you ought to do stuff like that yourself.

Slavery was outlawed in this country in the 19th century. Adults should clean their own toilets--if it's good enough for you to eat and shit out its good enough for you to clean. It is yours, after all.

Otherwise deal with the fact that the people you hire know damn well you are screwing them over (and likely not paying taxes or a fair wage) and deal with how they resent you for it.
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That's why I think you're ghetto Chrishayden, because you assume that hiring a cleaner involves "screwing them over and likely not paying a fair wage". Maybe that would be your MO, but not everyone's, not mine.

Do you really think certain people have the time or inclination to do their own cleaning? Only poor people clean their own toilets.

Most people don't have qualms about hiring a professional to cut their hair, arch their eyebrows, do their plumbing, drive them in a cab. I don't see hiring a professional cleaner as being any different. Obviously it is not something the average American black with their ghetto mentality would be able to afford or understand.

In Africa, we hire people to do everything from clean our toilets to wash our underwear. Only poor people clean their own toilet in Africa.
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Lola, I am NOT poor but I clean my own home. Do tell...what do you consider rich or poor?

I know of many people who do not have maid service/nannies who are VERY comfortable with finances, many have more money than you could or would ever dream of having.

And please, in Africa a person can live like a KING only making about 5K a year. You couldn't live HOMELESS making that in the States, lol. So maybe we Americans are not following what your idea is of rich or poor.
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Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 05:27 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Only poor people clean their own toilets?

Wrong. Only someone with their head up their ass would think they're too good to perform ordinary household chores or to clean up their own dirt. You would rather have a filthy stinking toilet, bathroom and kitchen while awaiting your "hired help" to show up, than to simply put on some latex gloves, get some bleach and ajax, and sanitize your area.

Next you'll be telling us that you don't wipe your own ass.

Typical African elitist fucktard.

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You're right Mzuri, I don't wipe my own ass. I hire a Black American to perform that task for me. I pay her well and it helps her feed her seven children by seven different daddies up in the projects.
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Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 05:44 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does she brush your teeth for you too?
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No, I have a Negro who's an ex-con who does my teeth cleaning for me.
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Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 05:53 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

What Ever. Speaking of toilets, that's where our collective IQs go whenever you post something. Gawd you're stupid.
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My IQ was tested at 149, FYI
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LOLOL!!! You ain't smarter than me, you can trust and believe that shit. Numb nuts.
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You are becoming my hero, Mzuri. Or should I say, my "heron"?
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149! LMAO. We didn't ask how much you weighed, Lolol. Who administered the IQ test? A Nigerian who you bribed? BTW how did you accumulate the fortune that made you so rich? By working as a "mule" for the Nigerian drug connection?
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I actually meant to say 419 and not 149. We Nigerians love the digits 419
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That beats liking 666.
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I can't stand these simple ass bitches that think they're so much smarter than everyone, and that everybody else but them lacks intelligence.

Lolita - the people who post here aren't a bunch of illiterate morons, okay! You're obviously not being truthful, if you were you'd state which IQ test you scored a 149 on.

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The IQ test was done in my high school

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