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Nolanfane
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Posted on Wednesday, October 04, 2006 - 01:13 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

My brothers and sisters it hurt my feelings to come up in here yet I couldn't turn around and leave.

Everywhere I look there is scorn and hatred posted for the Black man.

I just want to tell my beautiful black sisters of all hues---do not believe the hype.

Many of us real black men are left. Not all black men are colorstruck. Many of us love any kind of sexy soul mama and appreciate all the various flavors. My lady is black with an afro and I am proud to be the father of a goodlooking black son who made honor role last year and is a math whiz and the only black kid on varsity tennis. He also loves beautiful dark girls who look like his gorgeous ass mama.

Please don't pretend like we real black men don't exist.

To Shemika, Tonya, Kola Boof, Renata, I want to apologize to you from the bottom of my heart for insane comments made by punk ass weaklings like Lil_ze a white looking black man who is too stupid to know that when you hate on "pure" black women you are actually hating all black people because that is our mothership and by Schakspir one of the most closet-hating black scums to ever impersonate a real true brother. The shit he posts in response to my sister's pain is not called for and it's not right no matter what the situation. I read about 20 posts of him talking about Kola and Shemika's "looks" as if thats all that makes a woman and not a single dude up in here stepped forward to defend these black women's honor. Kola virtually has to be one woman army squad that takes away from very truthful observations she makes. If you are a black person who loves black people then you cannot deny her bravery in putting herself on the line for her own people. What comes out of her mouth may get her killed one day but I'll be damned if sister aint got the holy ghost as my granny used to say. I would never talk about black women as a group the way Schakspir does every time he posts anything. No wonder the women in here are overly-feisty. I don't blame them.

Schakspir calls himself a "writer", but let me turn you on to the profound wisdom of a real black man's writing. Mr. Kevin Powell wrote this poem and it stands for all of us who are from the choco-lat tribe and proud of our blackness.

The Choice Is Yours
By Kevin Powell


no Black self-love
no Black-on-Black love

no Black-on-Black love
no Black relationships

no Black relationships
no Black family

no Black family
no Black community

no Black community
no Black spirituality

no Black spirituality
no Black consciousness

no Black consciousness
no Black ownership

no Black ownership
no Black power

no Black power
no Black possibilities

no Black possibilities
no Black people

no Black people
no Black future—





Please my beautiful black sisters of all hues. Do not let the insensitive anti-black faggots like Lil_ze and Schakspir turn you against all brothers. Without black women there would eventually be no black men and that is what these nuckle-nuts dream of because they aren't man enough to be strong proud black men. They can't handle being a black man so they want to go where it's easier.

Don't believe the hype. Take the brothers that are still real and let's cut our losses and start building a new community from scratch.

I got mad love and respect for all my brothers and sisters of all hues who still like what they see when they look in the mirror. God bless yoll man.



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Posted on Wednesday, October 04, 2006 - 01:51 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Don't believe Kevin Powell.

This is a man who likes to get into barroom brawls no matter where he goes--even in churches.

Please, DON'T.
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Posted on Wednesday, October 04, 2006 - 02:04 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Nolanfaggot, everybody with half a brain knows that you are really Janet Milligan, aka Igbogirl, aka Kola Boof. You have been outed by the thinking people. Unfortunately, there are still plenty of Jerry Springer types who actually believe your idiotic, insane rants/bullshit.

More on the great Kevin Powell below:

http://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/archives/the_real_world/2004_Aug_10_kevi n_powell_fight

http://www.jimiizrael.com/ji/2006/02/28/08.04.25/index.html

KEPO for Prez

Kevin Powell is talking about running for office. I read about it months ago, and was hoping it would go away but apparently his run is picking up steam. I buhmember when he was popping off in the paper about this imaginary mantel of leadership he'd been handed, I thought he was smoking reefer or starting up a career in comedy. But I guess he was serious. I suspect that Kevin has Alsharptonitis: that sickness which convinces you that you be a politician despite the fact that you have never been elected fourth grade class president, playground sergeant at arms, or kickball captain, much less held public office. It’s a FEVER, muthafuckas. Gottdamn, homey…I’m not trying to nutt in your eye, Kev, but wasn’t you just jumping bad and biting niggas not long ago? Yeah, it’s true: you haven’t bit anyone lately---Mazeltov. Don’t you have a rep for popping that wack “Hi I’m Kevin Powell” game on nigga’s queen the minute a nigga turns around? Some of it came to me o the grapevine, but some of it I witnessed first-hand. You use to beat up chicks and what have you years ago, which you nobly copped to. And you been pimping that Mea Culpa for long days, and I can’t judge that, because that’s really the only clip a brother can get in Essence, copping to some bullshit like that. Or writing about how hard it is NOT to cheat on your wife when you’re horny, like Omar Tyree recently did (baaaaaaaaaaad look, homey). We all fall short, Kev. I’ll give you that. But Running for Congress is not a good look on you---pump your brakes and get right. I’m not saying that with any hate in the game---I love you, and have said as much. I love you enough to tell you when you’re being reckless, and manipulating people’s nostaligia for reality show goofballs and sometime hip-hop journalist. I say sometime because in our conversation, you told me you didn’t want to be identified as a hip-hop journalist: those days were passed, you said. I concur. I think it’s funny that you’re hip-hop and “Real World” at strange times. Most days of the week, Kev won’t cop to being a “hip-hop” anything, unless it’s “hip-hop historian”, which of course, is bullshit. Or “hip-hop activist”, whatever the fuck that means. He flicks out his ghetto pass at weird times. I got no gripe with him running for office---but try ombudsman. City councilman. Comptroller. Union rep. Grand Poobah. Nothing wrong with aiming high, but gott damn, talk about the Real World: Get real. It’s like, you’ve had a pair of turntables for a few years, rocked a few parties and next thing you know you telling cats you wanna battle Roc Raida for GrandWizard status. You gonna need some more people. You gonna need some practice, dun. You caint walk to the front of the church. You have to wait for the nod, and you have to earn that: Show and Prove. Get it right.

I mean, let’s think about it: if Al Sharpton was ever elected to public office, we’d all panic, because despite what you think, holding office and serving the public good is not as easy as it looks. It’s not all babies and cream. My dude Joe Jones---councilman--- was damn-near the man in his district. Might coulda ran for mayor. Da white man didn’t tell him to take bribe money, but they sure hemmed that ass up nonetheless. It’s madd easy to get caught up in some bullshit. Al is duplicitous and self-serving, and Kevin is fitting himself up for that same kinda trick bag. I’m hoping he doesn’t become the new Sharpton: that would be a waste. But for me, any 30-something year old man that runs around pretending to give lectures on the State of Black Manhood is a joke, not to be taken seriously under any circumstances. At 30-ish, you just really learning how to pee straight, square biz. Him and Tavis need to team up, because they are both pimping off black folks’ need to be led by any nigga in a pressed suit and tie. I know you are toouring and speaking or whatever, and that's nice work if you can get it. But there’s work at the post office, homey. Congress is not the hustle for you. If all else fails, get on that Real World Gauntlet shit. There, you can bite niggas. If you don’t like what I’m saying, homie, take it with love. Or we might can sit down for an interview after a while, if you got the stones for it. You know how to get at me.

http://www.jimiizrael.com/ji/2004/09/22/12.36.24/index.html

September 22, 2004
Kevin Powell and jimi izrael have a chat . . . W.W.j.D. ?

I guess it started when I heard about Kevin Powell's biting incident this past summer. I heard about it the night after the incident occurred while I was attending NABJ a hundred billion miles away, (so you know how niggas talk) and I couldn’t believe it was true. But then, it popped up in the ‘Post---on Page Six, no less---so I knew there had to be something to it. Lynn was dancing around the particulars of the incident on her blog. I felt like I had to say what needed to be said. That was a few weeks ago. Flash forward to a few days ago, when I get an email from Kevin. He wants me to call him.

So I call him.

Kevin: The first thing I wanna ask you, brother, is have I ever done anything to you?

jimi: fuck yeah, nigga.

We almost came to blows (albeit ten years ago) up in the Vibe Magazine offices while I was the-worst-business-department-intern-in-the history-of-all the-interns-in-all-of-the-world. I won’t get into the particulars of it, but it was over some stupid shit (it wasn’t on me at all) and we quashed the beef a few years back when he came to Cleveland on a speaking tour. When I told him about our history, Kevin seemed dumbfounded---he didn’t remember our near-altercation--- and hinted that something like that---an old, moldy beef---may have been at the heart of the ankle-biting incident. I tried to get him to appreciate the fact that while he may have changed in the last few years or so, a lot of cats have Kevin Powell stories, and they all end the same way:

“I couldn’t belive it, jim----I almost had to beat that nigga’s ass!”

Now, in fairness, madd niggas got jimi izrael stories, and not all of them are good ones. Some of them are funny. That’s because I am something of a social misfit. If you have one, feel free to post it here in the comments section, like Trula did. With me, the difference is, I ain’t trying to knuckle up on anybody, or vice versa. And nary a jimi izrael story has made the news.

I try not to write so inside-baseball, so I guess the Kevin Powell legacy really needs a proper primer, if we are gonna chat about on that nigga.

Kevin Powell was the first black man on the first reality show of its kind, the Real World. He was the first and possibly the angriest of them all, and from there he got a gig at Vibe Magazine. It’s notable that he had some clips before then. At any rate, he did passable work---well above average, really carving out a voice---and today, he’s best known for having interviewed both Tupac Shakur and Biggie Smalls. He went on to edit a good number of books, and today he’s speaking at a college campus near you, talking about the State of Black Manhood.


Onward.

When I talked to him, Kevin wasn’t tripping about the blog entry---he’s just gonna take a “L,” on the whole incident, and I like that in him (what are the choices?). Nah, he wanted to know why I didn’t call him to get is side of things, since we go back as far as we do.

Well, first off, I wasn’t reporting the story--- I blogged about it. If I was reporting it, I would have gotten a quote from Kevin. The second piece is that while Kevin and I go back ten years, we may have had four conversations during that whole span of time, including the one we just had. Me and the Arab guy at the Quick Stop Shoppe not far from my house are tighter---like madd tighter. We’ve talked about day-old hot dogs, the orgins of beef jerky and the injustice of $2 cans of soda—you know--- real cogent conversations. So me and Kevin not tight enough for me just give him a ring-a-ding-ding and be like “nigga, what is your malfunction?” We’re not that tight, because that is surely how I would have asked him if we were.

But could I have called him and made an inquiry? Yup.

There is less than half a degree of separation between Kevin and I---just like me and my ex wife!---so it would have been easy. But I didn’t care enough to give it that kind of effort---it just wasn’t deep enough for me to get on the horn. I guess he wonders if I owed him better than to blog on a blurb from the ‘Post (notsomuch a paper of record, in anyone’s estimation) without calling him. Answer? It’s a shakey point, but one worth making. If for no other reason than to clown him, I probably should have called him. He’s all off on the idea that because I’m a well-known journalist, everyone takes everything I write (including my blog) with the same weight. I told him that the public is not that stupid. He says that he got put on front street because people put him on a pedestal, and that the knock to his image could hurt his pockets.

First, I made sure he knew, unequivocally, that I AM NOT ONE OF THOSE PEDESTAL PEOPLE.

Then, I told him if he’d stop spouting off about that imaginary mantle of leadership he’s been handed, he might could live his live unfettered. He could bite any muthafucka he wanted, and no one would give a fuck. I tell ya, me and Kevin really chopped it up.

We talked about that “state of black manhood” shit I’m not buying, that “hip-hop historian” nonsense---all of that. In the midst of our conversation, I tried to get him to appreciate that he allowed the mass media machine to turn him into something he may, in fact, not be. It’s a tough ride, but you can’t get off until it stops, B. Everyone’s got to make a living, B. Even Page Six writers.

Kevin is a human being with human frailty, he pointed out. I concurred. He told me something of the full accounting of the circumstance (most of which I was already privy to) and then asked me:

Kevin:What would you have done?

What Would jimi Do? Good question.

First thing, I wouldn’t be trying to front on anybody at an A-list journalist function, I don’t care what the violation was. If it was something I had to chat out right then, I would have asked Dude to step outside, like men do. No way I’d be up in da club starting, or chatting about beef.

So, I guess Kevin bit dude because he was on the ground being held down, and he noticed that somehow, in the melee, his girl got knocked down and hurt her back. The ankle was the only way he could get some get-back.

Sure. OK.

That brings me to my second point.

I travel light, B, and never, ever bring my peeps to business functions. Never. My colleagues think I'm gay because no one has everm actually met my girl. That's fine with me. Unless I am accepting an award (I just got two, incidently, but didn’t go to the ceremony) they may never, ever meet her. She’s fine and all, but rolling with my girl is just bad for business, all around. I never know who is gonna roll up on me beefin' about something have written or something I said on TV---and trust, it happens with ALARMING regularity. My girl? Stays her fine ass at the house. She accompanies me to happy hours, dinner parties and nightclubs. But business is business.

Forward .

So Kev was on Dude because Dude was alleged to be having some domestic squabbles with a mutual female friend that may or may not have turned physical.

Ok.

Shakeh jumped on me earlier for saying that you never, EVER jump in a squabble between a man and a woman.

>There is no precedent that supports your assertion that "no one has a right to intercede" in arguments between men and women engaged in a "lover's spat" of sorts. Historical and current male-domination of non-males (transgendered folk and women) has greatly compromised men's ability to disagree with non-males in a non-threatening manner. Male violence (whether physical, emotional, mental, financial, etc)IS THE NORM rather than an exception to it. I think that we should challenge the notion that hetero couples fighting with each other is "their business".<

sheet, gay couples too . You think I’m jumping in a lesbian cat fight? You got me fucked up in the game. I worked in a gay bar for 4 years, remember? I’ve seen people shot, faces cut---hell, I've known gang-bangers less ruthless than a gay lover scorned. That shit is real. Domestic squabbles need police or family intervention, point blank, because those are the only parties unlikely to be jumped on by both parties in said dispute. And even that ain’t guaranteed.

>I appreciate your making it clear that if physical violence is involved to call the police BUT... it's important to recognize that non-physical attacks can be equally if not more hurtful AND often lead to physical harm that might take place behind closed doors.<

Sounds like too much conjecture for me, boss.

>I challenge you to recognize that as a man, your perception of danger or threats to women comes from a privileged place.<

I give that.

> I'm asking you to see Kevin Powell's intervention in this couple's argument as part of a larger vision of a society sans patriarchy: He employs a hermeneutic of suspicion because of his own coming to terms with male privilege and how he's hurt women.<

But that argument, as I understand it, was not happening in REAL TIME. I actually know the specifics, but I won’t got there . . .

>I urge you to read his article (if you haven't already) in Traps (...Recovering Misogynist...I'can't remember the exact title), an anthology of articles written by black men on gender and sexuality edited by Beverly Guy-Sheftall and Rudolph (Randolph?) P. Byrd. I'm open to any comments or questions you might have. Thanks.<
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Nolanfane
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Posted on Wednesday, October 04, 2006 - 02:10 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yeah and your mama's my white doggy-bitch. You came from a nut I squirted behind her tonsils.

If anybody's a faggot ass fool making brothers look bad in this world it's your punk ass not Kevin Powell.

I'll kick your fucking ass dude. You don't want none of me, Sissy-Spear.










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Posted on Wednesday, October 04, 2006 - 10:41 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Schakspir says:
"Nolanfaggot, everybody with half a brain knows that you are really Janet Milligan, aka Igbogirl, aka Kola Boof. You have been outed by the thinking people. Unfortunately, there are still plenty of Jerry Springer types who actually believe your idiotic, insane rants/bullshit."

Cynique says: You know what they say. "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and you can fool all of the people some of the time," but kola clings to the hope that she can "fool all of the people all of the time". snicker.
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Posted on Wednesday, October 04, 2006 - 11:31 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

NEWSFLASH FOR NOLANFAGGOT: YOU ARE NOT A REAL MAN AND YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT REALLY A MAN
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Posted on Wednesday, October 04, 2006 - 11:32 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Nolanfane: give it up. K? I don't think one single person on this board gives a shit what you say. Sure, some people don't give a shit what I say, either. But some DO care what I have to say. Just go back to your desk at BET (that's if you have a desk, seeing as you work at BET as a security guard). I checked, I have friends who work there.
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Posted on Thursday, October 05, 2006 - 12:42 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

How late do yoll stay up on this shit?

Igbogirl you know JACK about me because you don't even know my real name.

Nolan Fane is a comic book villain dumb ass.

Is your name really Igbogirl?

You the dumbest chick in here.

Mzuri "CLANSWOMAN" don't be mad because I started a thread taking up for black women. People you hate more than life because you wish you could be one. Scratch your ass and get glad.

Cynique I gives a fuck if you think I'm Kola. I'm rather impressed that ol girl has you calling her name in your sleep and thinking about her 24/7. That's a bad sista to have afflicted you with dementia like you is. LMAO!!!!

SissySpear's a straight up punk and there's nothing yoll CLANSWOMEN mofos can say to change that fact.



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Posted on Thursday, October 05, 2006 - 12:51 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola, stop talking to yourself. Nobody cares anymore, it's old hat.
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Posted on Thursday, October 05, 2006 - 10:57 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ROTFLOL.
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Yeah Sissyspear you wish I was Kola. Keep fucking with me chump and find Kola's size 19 foot up your faggoty azz.

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Posted on Thursday, October 05, 2006 - 12:31 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The more shyt changes the more it stays the same!


LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted on Thursday, October 05, 2006 - 12:41 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And the cheese stands alone...

LMAO!!!
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NOLANFAGGOT sure has some lame ass insults, don't she?!?!?!
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All that shit he/she/it spews is lame. Got me mumbling "figgity-faggoty" when somebody at work gets on my nerves.

But this is a cute little thread he started, wasn't it?

THANKS NOLAN...there!
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Nolanfane,

Thanks for the thread; I’m just checking it out now. It’s very kind and thoughtful. Good to see you acknowledge how antagonistic those guys can get. And your consideration for bw is greatly appreciated.

The content of this thread is a nice surprise. I bet Tonya and the others just haven't checked it out. By the title I would have never guessed what it was about since I had never heard of Kevin Powell before. But I really LOVE his poem, he is absolutely telling the truth!!!!

I know there are going to be some issues many of us disagree on, but I wish you and Igbogirl could be nicer to each other although you disagree on some things. You both have some worthwhile qualities - unlike some of these redneck wannabe trolls in here.

Love ya post!
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Thanks Nolanfane!! I owe you my life in exchange!

And, seriously, thanks for putting me D with brotha Powell.

...Like you he’s a true brotha for sure. :-)

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