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Igbogirl
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Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 12:39 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have 4 or 5 acquaintances who are Asian or white women in relationships with black men. Unfortunately all of those women have made disparating comments about black women. I don't believe these women are necessarily racist, it seems more as though they are regurgitating comments they've heard from their partners. One Asian acquintance dating a black man, started talking to me about how black women's hair "won't grow long" and how dark women are so jealous of mixed women. Another of them started talking about how "they'll never put a black woman in a Hollywood movie". I pointed out to her that while there are not ENOUGH black actresses in Hollywood movies for my liking, there are indeed some. She assured me that I'd never see a black actress on TV with a complexion "as dark" as mine. I pointed out to her that Angela Basset, Nia Long, Gabrielle Union, Queen Latifah and Meghan Goode appear in major Hollywood movies and are my complexion or darker. She then changed the subject to how black men no longer want to date black women......

I think its a real shame that these white and Asian chicks feel the need to be so negative about black women. I do get the impression that they are threatened by us, actually.
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Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 12:54 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Igbogirl,

WHY would your White and Asian friends cite racist commentary of Black women if they are NOT being racist?


And how many ASIAN chicks you see in movies and on TV? Not even as many as there are of Black women, I'd contend.

So, perhaps, you should consider asking your Asian acquaintances does the paucity of Asian female media representation prove that THEY are not beautiful, worthy women.
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Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 01:02 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Abm, I love your reply. That is a very, very good point about there being a paucity of Asian females in the media.

Also, I guess you're righ that these chicks ARE being racist. Its just that some of the crap they say seems to have come straight from the mouths of their black men. There are, of course, black men who happen to be dating or married to a white woman, simply because they fell in love with her. And then there are black men who basically hate black women and feel that white or Asian women are superior to black women. I think the white and Asian women I referenced in my post are dating black men who fall into the latter category.
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Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 01:17 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Igbogirl,

First. You are ASSUMING these White and Asian acquaintances of yours are obtaining their demeaning commentary from their Black paramours. You do NOT know that to be true. Nor have you even SAID such here.

So it's best that you focus on what you DO know: You have White and Asian female acquaintances who enjoy demeaning Black women. THAT...you KNOW.

Perhaps such does originate from their male friends. But these women have minds of their own. They do NOT have to accept and repeat those slurs, especially to someone like yourself whom, I assume, they like and respect.

It would not surprise me at all that your White and Asian associates actually dislike and/or resent Black women. And they are USING you as a convenient 'mark' upon which they can exact their hatred.

Perhaps you should consider such within your ongoing dealings with them.
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Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 01:23 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Abm: there is a reason I refer to these women as acquaintances and not friends!

I have dated white men in the past and when dating a white man I have NEVER felt threatened by the beauty of white women or felt the need to demean white women. However, one white man I dated DID constantly demean white women and criticize them for not being as physically attractive as black women. This man had not dated women of color before me, but I hear that now he exclusive dates black and east Indian women.
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Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 01:32 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Igbogirl,

Well. Here's hope you do not have to acquaint yourself with them very often.

Percentages of foks who date interracially that do so largely as some sort of rejection of or vengence against their own kind. WHAT those percentages are I do not know. But I believe it is a MATERIAL percentage.
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Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 01:32 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Since it is difficult to love a racist/colorist if you're not one yourself, I tend to agree with you're assessment, Igbogirl, that these racist women you speak of are with colorist/self hating/spiteful black men. Welcome to the board, btw. :-)
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Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 01:38 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"I tend to agree with you're assessment, Igbogirl, that these racist women you speak of are with colorist/self hating/spiteful black men."

Oh really?? Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
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Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 01:44 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

While we are on this subject, can anybody explain to me what Wesley Snipes' issue with black women is? Somebody told me despites black women for some reason, but did not know why. Is that why he beat up Halle Berry?
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Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 01:58 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Igbogirl,

Does ANYONE really know what went down between Wesley and Halle?

Really. Since neither of the principals have explicitedly discussed and debated what happened between them, it kinda seem unfair to continue to vilify Wesley.


Here is something I gleaned from a website that Snipes himself is alleged to moderate. What follows includes what are apparently Snipes' views about Black women:

"DISPELLING RUMORS AND MISINFORMATION BY FAMILIARS

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As this is not the correct venue to addressing negative rumors and misinformation, I will not engage in a continued discussion about some of the issues surrounding my personal life. Most of you know that I am a much disciplined private man and don’t flinch every time some Familiar or Bloodsucker, says something nasty about me in the press. I’m taught in the way of the Master, Jeshua, who never responded to false accusations and verbal attacks to massage his ego. He knew, because his Father taught him, that the truth always comes to light. You too, the true believers, will soon hear the truth about a lot of the so-called “negative” events in my life. Until that time comes, I will say this and no more…

Responding to a few of you who have been spreading the negative information on the threads, even going so far as to attach links and articles of the negative information:

• I am not a man of violence nor am I a man that starts fights…especially not on a movie set
• I am not a man who does not make good on any valid debt he legitimately owes
• I am not a man who sleeps with crack head prostitutes in crack houses in Indiana, as a matter of fact I’ve never even been to Indiana
• I am not losing my house
• I’ve never said I don’t like or don’t like to date Black Women, nor have I ever said I only like Asian women (funny how the spin doctors never tell the public how many Black, Asian, Hispanic and White men and women, I’ve employed, compensated or supported out of my own pocket, even sacrificed for yet asking for nothing in return). I guess that kind of news doesn’t sell
• I am a man, standing straight up with a balance and free spirit, who after thirty plus years as an entertainer is still at the top of the game, in spite of…

Remember, there are Bloodsuckers and Familiars who will do or say ANYTHING to discredit one who has worked hard to get what he has achieved and they now want to get their grimy hands on anything they can. Whenever you read or hear something in the press, always ask yourself, “who stands to gain and who’s benefiting from this story?”

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Last edited by wsnipes : 11-16-2004 at 12:00 PM.
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http://www.bladetrinity.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=722&page=9&pp=15
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Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 02:08 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Really. Since neither of the principals have explicitedly discussed and debated what happened between them, it kinda seem unfair to continue to vilify Wesley."

Excellent point! I agree. We don't know. Yet the haters and race spin miesters continue their calculated campaign of misinformation and race baiting. Who Wesley Snipes dates or what he does in his personal life is no ones damn business!!!! Thanks for the post and link.



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Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 02:10 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Wesley Snipes is supposed to have actually written that?
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Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 02:13 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ntfs,

I can't help chucking at Wesley use Blade terminology like "Bloodsuckers and Familiars" to describe his detractors.

Dude's really kinda 'staying in character' there. Though, considering the LOOT he's scored from the Blade franchise, I can't much blame him from doing that.

Hahahahaha!!!
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Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 02:14 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Igbogirl,

It SEEMS as though he did. Go to the site and judge for yourself.
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Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 02:38 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

1) Didn’t Wesley actually come out any say the things he now alleges aren’t true (re: Asian/black women)?

2) Sounds like he’s trying to make amends. Why now, exactly? What has changed since this information became public…besides the fact that he’s presently broke and have been reduced to doing infomercials?
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Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 02:57 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tonya,

Can you QUOTE what Snipes initially said about Black women?

And what proof is there Snipes is broke?
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Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 03:08 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

In my short life, I've noticed a lot of White/non black women who date/marry Black men do NOT like Black women. Why is that?
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Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 03:53 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It's because black women do NOT tolerate seeing their men dating/marrying outside of their race, and make spiteful comments/asides whenever they see an interracial couple passing them by.
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Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 03:59 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

(("Tonya, Can you QUOTE what Snipes initially said about Black women?"))


No, that's why I asked; though I do remember a full article in which Wesley Snipes was quoted liberally. I think it was "Essence" or "Ebony" ...a magazine with that sort of background & credibility. What exactly he said, I do not know. The magazine was taped to a wall in a restaurant.


(("And what proof is there Snipes is broke?"))


He's been reduced to doing infomercials. This may not be "proof" but, c'mon...
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Didn’t Wesley actually come out any say the things he now alleges aren’t true (re: Asian/black women)?

Do you have proof that he did say it? Details please....

Sounds like he’s trying to make amends. Why now, exactly?

Make amends for what? Why would he have to make amends for anything?

What has changed since this information became public…

First of all, you don't know that he did say it. Do you have a direct quote, audio or video feed to prove that he did? If so, please post it.

Tonya,

Can you QUOTE what Snipes initially said about Black women?

And what proof is there Snipes is broke?


Thank you. I have the same questions. Let's see what the reply is.


In my short life, I've noticed a lot of White/non black women who date/marry Black men do NOT like Black women. Why is that?

Why should they? A number of black women can't control their abrasive and toxic outbursts and insults when they see black men with non-black women. I have personally seen it countless times. If you don't personally approve of interracial relationships, fine. That is your right. But to subject unsuspecting people to your racist harangues and insults is another thing. Everyone should have the reasonable expectation to be able to go about their normal lives without being subjected to taunts and racist name calling. As I said, you have a right to your personal choice of a mate and your opinion about those who may choose mates whose ethnicity or race is different than what you would chose. But those same people have a right not to be subjected to caustic name calling and vitriol.

I've talked (and witnessed) a seemingly countless number of black men and white women who have complained about being confronted and harassed by angry black women. In fact, in two cases, the black women were so angered by the sight of a brother with a white date, they became physical with the offending parties. WTF???

A Filipina friend of mine told me of a story that happened this past week when she was on a business trip to Chicago. She was having lunch with a business associate (she said he was an extremely handsome 6'-5" very muscular brother with a 32" inch waist at a body weight of 250 lbs -the black women were staring in awe when they walked in) when an enraged black woman came to their table and hurled insults at the brother. She said there was a table of four black women not more than six feet away who cheered her on! So, it would not be unreasonable for these same non-black women not to bond with or like black women who are so openly hostile and verbally confrontational.

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Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 04:10 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dude...you are so trite I can't even finish reading your post. I'm starting to wonder if you’re capable of making a point without biting someone else’s line or rehashing the ONE line you own or taking things out of context.
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Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 04:15 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

But I don't make comments when I see black men with nonblack women. You're assuming that I do when I don't.

I'm speaking from my own personal experiences with nonblack women who I had NO idea that they were with Black men until later on. I've had White women as managers or fellow co-workers who would not speak to me or make any kind of eye contact, but would smile, and say hi & make small talk with Black men. The only time they would talk to Black women were unless they were much older and fit the profile of a mammy (older, & overweight).

I am a very nice person, and try to make my job as easy as possible by smiling and saying hi--these women will just walk right pass me when I did so without acknowledging me.

It's even worse when you have them as a manager--when I was 18 one White woman who had a Black husband gave me the HARDEST time & was overly critical. And I KNOW it was because she did it because I was young, female and Black..
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I've not seen Wesley in any infomercials. But, hell, during the HEIGHT of her movie career, Cher was doing infomercials.

And I was under the impression that he had some ownership interest in what appeared to be a very profit Blade movie franchise. Though, I suppose it's possible he may have scewed up his money with some bad investments or some charlatan money managers.
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oh please,


Ntfs


it's not like white women didn't have problems with black women long BEFORE the rise of interracial relationships between black men and white women.

white women have always had animosity towards black women even during slavery and jim crow (when black women were raising THEIR children and treating them liek their own) and many if not most of the ones who have never dated a black man in their lives are still this way today....gee what a big surprise.
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Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 04:17 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Chicks are ALWAYS at each others' throats for SOMETHING. The Black-White issue is but especially convenient justification for such.
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Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 04:21 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"I'm speaking from my own personal experiences with nonblack women who I had NO idea that they were with Black men until later on. I've had White women as managers or fellow co-workers who would not speak to me or make any kind of eye contact, but would smile, and say hi & make small talk with Black men."


this part right here is SO true....i've seen this happen quite a LOT form white women. they are no different than white men can be when it comes to black men.


In fact during slavery and the women's suffrage days white femininsts allowed blakc men into their homes and to speak at their meetings all the while not allowing black women to speak on their podiums.

they were far more comfortable and secure around black men.

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"Chicks are ALWAYS at each others' throats for SOMETHING. The Black-White issue is but especially convenient justification for such."


true, but i think when the women are of different races the problem and animosity hiehgtens.
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(("I've not seen Wesley in any infomercials."))

Yeah, well, I have and he looked pretty pathetic, sad to say.

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Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 04:26 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tonya,

WHAT product or service is Wesley hustling?
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ABM,

These women go out of their way to not talk, or have any kind of friendly interaction with black women. Currently at my job, there is this older Filipino lady (late 40s early 50s) who is always in black men faces soaking up the sexual attention she gets but is purposely rude to me & other black women. One day, she rudely pushed me out of her way & said "move"....I let it go because she's old and I don't want to break her damn bones.

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Misty,

No doubt RACE/COLOR greatly complicates issues between/amongst women. But, I swear, if those weren't the issue, you'd find some OTHER shyt to tear at each other about.
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Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 04:34 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

But its a problem that should be discussed and not just brushed off as a 'female thing'..
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Misty, why are you so quick to turn the black woman into the catty vindictive cutthroat...when Igbogirl made it clear that it was the white and Asian women who were rude and being racist? How did this situation turn into a "Chicks are ALWAYS at each others' throats" type of affair for you?
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Lotta generalizations going on here. In the work place, white women and black women sometimes becomes allied against management. Especially if their superior is another woman of whatever races who tends to throw her weight around. This I have witnessed. It's usually when a male enters the equation, that the cattiness bears its teeth.
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Abm, exercise equipment.
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"Misty, why are you so quick to turn the black woman into the catty vindictive cutthroat...when Igbogirl made it clear that it was the white and Asian women who were rude and being racist? How did this situation turn into a "Chicks are ALWAYS at each others' throats" type of affair for you?"


Huh? tonya, reread what ntfs said and then reread what i said.....i was arguing AGAINST the idea that the black women are always the ones perpetuating the animosity between black owmen and white women.


my pont was that white women were racists and catty towards black women long before black women began expressing dislike toward blakc men dating white women. reread what i said and you'll see what i was trying to say.
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Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 04:46 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It wasn't just "managers" that acted this way towards Black women--coworkers, and just nonblack women off the street.
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oh to add, i was simply agreeing wiht ABM that women no matter what race are catty to one another...but at the same time i wasnt saying the black women are the ones being vindictive and perpetuating it.


but i DO realize that people LOVE to put the blame on the shoulders of black women any time we discuss the animosity that exists between black women and white women.... and this is what turns my stomach...however ntfs was the one saying it was black women's fault, not me.
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And Wesley Snipes can post anything he wants to on his web sight. It's not what he says, it's what he does. He doesn't deny that he doesn't date black women; he only denies that he never said he didn't date black women. And not too long ago it was in the news that he was in danger of being evicted from his estate in Atlanta for nonpayment of rent. Guess he just didn't feel like digging into his millions to come up with the money.
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Fuck NFTS. His mother's a WHITE bitch, so what do you expect?

And fuck WHITE and NON-Black women.

Since when did they have enough ass to get on stage with MAMA?

A white bitch ain't SHIT!

And neither are the rest of them.

That's why I told you----KILL these motherfuckers like Wesley, Quincy, Sidney, Taye....DELIBERATELY and MALICIOUSLY set your minds and souls to see them extinct......and before you know it, they will be....and give birth to a NEW son.

Give birth to a new son.

You've got a fucking WOMB.

And before you throw your two cents in MR. ABM-----a black woman will have to produce a NEW SON either WITH or WITHOUT a black man. It's a choice that she won't have. Some of those sons will even have to be by WHITE MEN.....but she can do a helluva lot better for our people than these sorry ass men and their racist White mates can.

There isn't a bitch on this earth that has the power and wonder of a Black woman.

As Morrison wrote----The Black Woman is both "Ship" and "Safe Harbor".







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Black women----

when people call you a "black bitch"----BE ONE.

And I mean get "diabolical" with the shit.

PLOT for the day when YOUR WOMB will rule this earth.

Stop tearing down each other and PLOT and support the rise of each other.












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I noticed both Schakspir and NTFS, didn't say not one word when Igbo openly discussed the overt racism the Asian and White women expressed towards Black women.

The minute that they were given the chance to defend nonblack women they immediately jumped at it.
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That's because they HATE black women.

Surely you knew that long before now?

How LONG does it take you to figure out when a man HATES your fucking guts, Brownbeauty123????





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BB123,

To be honest, I almost don't blame'em. I mean, hell, I was the first person here who asserted those chicks are probably hatin' on Igbogirl's Blackness. But even I'm beginning to get a not-so-welcome feeling here.
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ABM, are you denying that NTFS and Schakspir HATE black women???

After all these months--how could you POSSIBLY not know?




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"Black women----

when people call you a "black bitch"----BE ONE.

And I mean get "diabolical" with the shit.

PLOT for the day when YOUR WOMB will rule this earth.

Stop tearing down each other and PLOT and support the rise of each other"



this is very well stated kola.....i'll never forget one of my mentors (that's the oly term i could think of for now)stating that there are times that call for black women to actually BE the bitch that everyone accuses them of being...and that a black woman who doesnt have an attitude or who isn't angry is crazy... i learned alot from that woman
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(("my pont was that white women were racists and catty towards black women long before black women began expressing dislike toward blakc men dating white women."))

What do you mean "catty towards black women long before black women began. . ."? You call what ww did to bw back then "catty?" Were white men being catty when they lynched black men for sleeping with white women? Why is it that when white men are hateful towards black men (i.e., intimidating bm from dating ww), this behavior is called racism. Yet when white women ridicule black women out of spite - for being perceived as their (black) husband's natural mate - we minimize the black woman's experience by labeling it "catty?"
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Kola,

I'm not denying that Ntfs and Schakspir resent Black women. It's pretty obvious to me they have issues with Black woman.

It's probably got something to do with their being rejected or messed over by sistas.

*shrugs*
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Tonya,

White men illegally lynching/incarcerating Black men = Racism.

White and Black chicks tearing into each other because of what some Black man says/does = Catty.
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"Dude...you are so trite I can't even finish reading your post."

Oh, I'm trite? And you're not for making unsubstantiated accusations based solely on your personal dislike for an individual you know absolutely nothing about? Uh huh, I see.....

"I'm starting to wonder if you’re capable of making a point without biting someone else’s line or rehashing the ONE line you own or taking things out of context."

Ya know, I don't know why I'm wasting my time explaining this to you, but I will. If you are referring to the same questions ABM asked, actually I responded immediately after you made those inane comments. In the middle of writing a response, I had to address the plumber who came to do some work. When I finished, I came back, finished writing my commentary and then posted it. By that time a number of responses (including ABM's) had been posted. So if you are suggesting that I have to steal someone else’s thunder to make a point, you are sadly mistaken. Something you have become very proficient at.

"I don't make comments when I see black men with nonblack women. You're assuming that I do when I don't."

Good for you if you don't. But I was not personally referring to you or specifically anyone else on this board. If you noticed, I said a number of black women -not every black woman. That that would not be true. But there is a reasonable number of black women who have no problems aggressively voicing their disapproval within earshot of the offending couple.

"The only time they would talk to Black women were unless they were much older and fit the profile of a mammy (older, & overweight)."

Ok...so why do you think they do that?

"oh please,

Ntfs

it's not like white women didn't have problems with black women long BEFORE the rise of interracial relationships between black men and white women."


And I never suggested that they did not.

"white women have always had animosity towards black women even during slavery and jim crow (when black women were raising THEIR children and treating them liek their own) and many if not most of the ones who have never dated a black man in their lives are still this way today....gee what a big surprise."

Ok. I don't disagree with that. But white women as a group do not have the notoriety for harassing other white women with black men or white men with black women. I'm not suggesting that as a group, they approve of it. But they tend to keep their opinions to themselves. I don't recall hearing about a group of white women confronting another white women for dating a black men or hurling insults at a black woman with a white man. Other than rolling their eyes and sighing with disgust, as I said, they generally tend to keep their disapproval to themselves.

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Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 05:48 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Maybe ntfs and Shaksphir just don't like the black women on this site. The feelings seem to be mutual. Men tend to not like women who cuss them out on a regular basis.
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"Ok...so why do you think they do that?"

they're not a threat.
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Who is "they"??? Make yourself clear.
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Cynique, please keep up by reading the response I made to Ntfs question in his post.
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Cynique---

Schakspir's hatred of black women (and ALL women) is documented far beyond this site....just pick up his book or NOTE that he's an underling of the GRAND SEXIST ASSHOLE Ishmael Reed.

And their GENERALIZATIONS about "black women" have tended to be STANDARD and AIMED at the whole society of "black women"----not just the women on this board.

I don't know what posts you've been reading.







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Brownbeauty, please give your responses a frame of reference. Your post immediate followed mine, and it appeared like your question was directed at me.
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”I'm not denying that Ntfs and Schakspir resent Black women. It's pretty obvious to me they have issues with Black woman.”

Uhhhhh..sorry to disappoint you but I have no issues. I may not agree with some things that certain people advocate or I may not gleefully indulge in race baiting, but that in no way is indicative of having issues or conflicts with black women.


It's probably got something to do with their being rejected or messed over by sistas.

Ha! Ha! Ha! That’s funny. Sorry again, but I’ve never had a rejection problem with black women or any other women for that matter.


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Igbogirl....these women were already racist (no man can MAKE you racist, especially a grown woman). They just found a man who AGREED with them.

Think about it....how did their conversations ever get around to how they BOTH think lowly of black women, if they didn't BOTH agree to that topic of conversation?

Really.
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Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 06:25 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

But the allegations you make about Shakespir and black women could apply to your attitude toward black men, Kola. You don't get it. Nobody talks about black men or black women any worse than you do, and you fly into your tirades simply because their "truth" is not your "truth." Shakspir and ntfs really don't need me to defend them but you and your posse are not above being provoked.
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OK Cynique.

I see how you could see it that way.

Though you're much too old and wise to NOT KNOW that my feelings about black men OR women are anywhere near the same planet as Schakspir's.

But I accept your point----that others could see it that way.



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Abm,

"Tonya,

White men illegally lynching/incarcerating Black men = Racism.

White and Black chicks tearing into each other because of what some Black man says/does = Catty."


Where was there any “cattiness” in Igbogirl's opening post? It sounded to me like her white and Asian acquaintances made a few racist statements about black women which she found disturbing--but I don't remember her saying that the (racist) remarks lead to her involvement in an altercation with any of them.

Also, I wasn't in any way equating the lynching of black men with verbalized racial harassment. In my post, it was the the treatment that bw endured from ww IN THE PAST that I associated with lynchings. (Indeed, both ww and wm did physically, emotionally and verbally abused bw during slavery and beyond.)
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Where was there any “cattiness” in Igbogirl's opening post? It sounded to me like her white and Asian acquaintances made a few racist statements about black women which she found disturbing--but I don't remember her saying that the (racist) remarks lead to her involvement in an altercation with any of them.

You are right Tonya. I am perfectly civil towards these women and have been giving them the benefit of the doubt. They are the ones who for some reason feel the need to denigrate black women.
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KOLA: Black women----

when people call you a "black bitch"----BE ONE.

And I mean get "diabolical" with the shit.

SCHAKSPIR: And never, ever, ever, in your whole life, get laid.
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Abm: Kola, I'm not denying that Ntfs and Schakspir resent Black women. It's pretty obvious to me they have issues with Black woman.

Schakspir: I have issues with black BITCHES, not black women. Black BITCHES are sad, distorted caricatures of black women.
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Schakspir: "It's because black women do NOT tolerate seeing their men dating/marrying outside of their race, and make spiteful comments/asides whenever they see an interracial couple passing them by."

Shemika:
You need to stop flattering yourself with all these glorified bm delusions. The mere fact that you unoriginal nikkas have to monkey behind the wm by picking up his trash doesn't make you the sharpest tool in the shed. Most bw have come to realize that knuckle dragging bm who pursue ww are worthless to them anyway. Those who do so, like you, have already come to be the embodiment of every negative stereotype your masters have defined you as over the past 400 years ...without even realizing it. Even down to your anti-bw rendition of the Caucasoid’s diversion from their own ugliness and wickedness by ridiculing and scapegoating blacks.

You’ve got a lot of nerve accusing bw of making spiteful comments when that’s all you and your beauty shop punk buddy’s like lil_flea know how to do.

Schakspir:
"I have issues with black BITCHES, not black women. Black BITCHES are sad, distorted caricatures of black women."

Shemika:
Schakspir, You're a black bitch; do you have issues with yourself?

What's sad is your pathetic and buffoonish cooning by way of scapegoating bw. Black male bytches like you are most definately a caricature of black men. Because 'black' you ain't, and 'man' you don't know the meaning of.
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”Fuck NFTS. His mother's a WHITE bitch, so what do you expect?”

Ha! Ha! Ha! I expect you to leave my mother out of your diatribes that are directed at me. My mother is no more of a bitch than yours is. So let’s just focus on our personal differences. Relatives have nothing to do with this.

”There isn't a bitch on this earth that has the power and wonder of a Black woman.”

Oh really? Why is that? Just because they have black skin or is there something else going on? Just curious….

”I noticed both Schakspir and NTFS, didn't say not one word when Igbo openly discussed the overt racism the Asian and White women expressed towards Black women.”

There was nothing to discuss. Why do you care what they think of black women? I don’t believe Asian and white women as a group, are overly concerned about black women. Why should they be? But for the record, I don’t support nor defend open or even subtle hostility or prejudice against black women by any group of women or men. In fact, a dear friend of mine and I have been having some very heated correspondence about black women. He has no use for them and has said some very harsh things about them. I’ve mentioned this story before, but he claims a black female friend of his told him black women do not wash their feet unless they have medical appointments. Yes, yes.....I know how this sounds. At first, I thought he was being sarcastic but soon I discovered he actually believes it! No one I have discussed this with believes someone could be so ignorant. I don’t want to get into a protracted post about this absurdity, but even though we have been friends since 1980, there is no way I could let him get away with such silliness.

”The minute that they were given the chance to defend nonblack women they immediately jumped at it.”

I never defended anyone. I just stated the facts. Why would I defend someone who is openly hostile towards and denigrates black women? Asian and white women don’t need me to defend them. They are doing quite well without me. Sorry, but somehow, you have misjudged me.

”That's because they HATE black women.

Surely you knew that long before now?

How LONG does it take you to figure out when a man HATES your fucking guts, Brownbeauty123????”


Well, I have no idea why you think that way. If anyone can reference a commentary where I was openly putting down or degrading black women, please post it. Good luck in your search. I have no idea why people accuse me of this. This isn’t the first time. There are no records of me mocking or harshly ridiculing black women as a group. Sorry.

To set the record straight and put an end to this nonsense, Kola, every time you have commented about the hard ships of black women, I high fived you. Every time you commented about the tragedy and hard ships of single black women who are struggling to raises their children without fathers, I supported you. And every time you have criticized black men for walking away and not supporting their children, I have applauded you. So how does this make me a black woman hater?

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Tonya,

You make some valid points. :-)


Ntfs & Schakspir,

Yawl have any Black wives and/or daughters you love and are actively taking care of?
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Ntfs and Schakspir, are you guys swingin bachelors taking advantage of your freedom and sowing your wild oats before deciding to settle down with a wife and kids? tsk-tsk. How unheard of is that???
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Ntfs is damn near fifty…sowing his wild oats my ass….His oats should be hard and stale by now!

And Schakspir spend too much time in the whorehouse to “sow” anything but minutes for his next hospitalization-slash-treatment and plans for the afterlife.

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Posted on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 - 01:32 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Ntfs is damn near fifty…sowing his wild oats my ass….His oats should be hard and stale by now!"

You are so funny sometimes. Still hard but not stale my dear. Trust me. Ha! Ha! Ha!
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Posted on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 - 05:57 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Shemika: Schakspir, You're a black bitch; do you have issues with yourself?

Schakspir: No. I have issues with you, because you are an asshole.
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Posted on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 - 06:02 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tonya: And Schakspir spend too much time in the whorehouse to “sow” anything but minutes for his next hospitalization-slash-treatment and plans for the afterlife.

Schakspir: Wishful thinking on your part.

It's really absurd how some of the women on this board can use their "blackness" as an alibi to shit on the world.
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Posted on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 - 06:05 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Igbo girl what city do you live in?
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Posted on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 - 06:09 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

...doesn't take much to shit on a dead nigga!
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Who the hell are you calling dead?

BTW, any "voodoo" shit you throw at me will come back on you, so don't even think about it(I practice Ifa).
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...lololololol!!!!!!!!!
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LOLOLOL my ass.wrrtwt
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...already at the stage where you've gone delirious...are you?? (ROTFLMBAO)
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Nope.
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I live in NYC
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Schakspir: "No. I have issues with you, because you are an asshole."

Shemika:
I'll take that as another latent expression of your desire for me. Because we all know how much you're turned on by those.

Schakspir: "It's really absurd how some of the women on this board can use their "blackness" as an alibi to shit on the world."

Shemika:
What you mean to say is that it's really absurd that men like you use "blackness" as an alibi to shyt all over bw and believe they should be forced to silently tolerate it. Something you would never expect of a ww.

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"What you mean to say is that it's really absurd that men like you use "blackness" as an alibi to shyt all over bw and believe they should be forced to silently tolerate it. Something you would never expect of a ww."

Really? Exaclty how does that work? Details please...

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"It's because black women do NOT tolerate seeing their men dating/marrying outside of their race, and make spiteful comments/asides whenever they see an interracial couple passing them by."

How do you know what black men experience when you look Latino?
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Posted on Wednesday, September 13, 2006 - 11:56 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

”It's because black women do NOT tolerate seeing their men dating/marrying outside of their race, and make spiteful comments/asides whenever they see an interracial couple passing them by."

Well…unfortunately, this is very true.

”How do you know what black men experience when you look Latino?”

Um…..not sure I exactly understand what you mean. Could you reword it? I have an good idea but I want to make sure I completely understand what you are asking.

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Ntfs, there are no details forthcoming from Shemika. She is one of those twisted ghetto queens who only has kneejerk responses to questions, and is absolutely incapable of rational thought. Furthermore, she's convinced that she alone represents every black woman who ever lived from "Lucy" on down. You know--paranoid delusions of grandeur.
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Black women should just date white and asian men then, and call shit even!
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"Um…..not sure I exactly understand what you mean. Could you reword it? I have an good idea but I want to make sure I completely understand what you are asking"

Perhaps, you don't understand because the question wasn't directed towards you.

"Black women should just date white and asian men then, and call shit even!"

I will. Black men are getting so tired.
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Regardless of color, women who are down-right bitchy and catty to complete strangers are just attention-starved. Their unrefined behavior deserves to be ignored --and I'm teaching my children to do the same.



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Fortified: Black women should just date white and asian men then, and call shit even!

Schakspir: So what? Do it. You have free will. There's a whole world out there.
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"Fortified: Black women should just date white and asian men then, and call shit even!

Schakspir: So what? Do it. You have free will. There's a whole world out there."


Works for me.
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"Fortified: Black women should just date white and asian men then, and call shit even!

Schakspir: So what? Do it. You have free will. There's a whole world out there."


Works for me.
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These are truly pitiful times, I arrived on this board so glad to be able to interact and have discussions with black people who were authors or just loved literature. I thank the infinite ones that I have a glorious father and mother and am surrounded by Black people around this planet who KNOW and LOVE who they have been and who they are. If I did not have that personal perspective this board would truly dishearten me.
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"These are truly pitiful times,.."

This is very true. I agree.

"I arrived on this board so glad to be able to interact and have discussions with black people who were authors or just loved literature."

Good. So did I. There are a number of writers who post here. If you have recommendation for a good book or would like to post a book review or an interesting article, please do so.

" I thank the infinite ones that I have a glorious father and mother and am surrounded by Black people around this planet who KNOW and LOVE who they have been and who they are. If I did not have that personal perspective this board would truly dishearten me."

Well, sounds like you have a very sound philosophy and a very positive perspective. We need more posters like you around here. I look forward to your posts.

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WHERE THE WHITE WOMEN AT??????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ha,ha,ha,ha,ha!
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OFFTOPIC, but my niece asked me about one of Snoop Dogg's songs: Beautiful. The lyrics she was referring to were:

...Black and beautiful, you the one I'm choosin'
Hair long and black and curly like you're Cuban..

She asked me whether black girls who's hair is not long or "curly" are considered ugly in the hip-hop world. Hmmm, it was pretty hard for me to come up with an answer!
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My sisters: Do NOT give second thoughts to men who do not want you/us. Just. Do. Not. It's not worth the assault to your spirit or your time or your effort. Why even think about it once, let alone over and over and over?

If it's Black children you desire, get y'self over to a sperm bank and choose a chocolateydarkskin baby-daddy. (Or start your own such sperm bank. $$$$$$$) Then date/marry whoever you want. Or date/marry no one.

If these men are with non-Black women out of true love, then who are you to step in their way? If they are in these relationships out of "issues" with Black women/mamma/big mammas/ex-girlfriends/Elsa from math class who wouldn't give them the time of day--then why waste your time on such men with such issues?

Really: will shaming these brothers get them to fall out of love/see the light?

Why? Why is it worth it?
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Yvettep, Thank you so much. But also Black women need to reassess reality, most black men are with and love black women. This has been mentioned on this board before and it is a fact. Why are the behaviours of the minority of black men dictating our interactions and expressions with the majority of Black men. I live in one of the most White supremacist countries in the world and Black men in the workplace as well as fellow students at my University are with black women and love and respect Black women. We should observe media trends in the context that they are creations of those in power who are White people, white men and women.
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"She asked me whether black girls who's hair is not long or "curly" are considered ugly in the hip-hop world."

Uhhhh...probably. I would say the chances are very good.
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Posted on Friday, September 15, 2006 - 01:31 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yvette says: "If it's Black children you desire, get y'self over to a sperm bank and choose a chocolateydarkskin baby-daddy. (Or start your own such sperm bank. $$$$$$$) Then date/marry whoever you want. Or date/marry no one."

That's the most sensible bit of advice yet to be dispensed on this subject! It's a simple solution to a complicated problem, and, being the pragmatist that I am, I find this suggestion laudable. LOL
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Wonderful idea! Now, we'll have even more Black children brought up without their biological father in picture.
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Surely all of you intelligent, responsible, militant, gainfully-employed, superwomen who want to preserve black skin will be able to cope without a husband. You're all tough enough to provide a masculine presence in a child's life. LMAO.
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I really hope you're wearing "extra strength" Depends this time. The last time you "LMAO", you caused a heavy leak in the generic brand.
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Posted on Friday, September 15, 2006 - 10:42 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

How do you know, "Brownbeauty"? Just because you inhabit Kola's brain doesn't mean you a can teleport yourself to where Cynique is. BTW, the "depends" thing is re-cycled Kola material.
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"Depends" is a common brand sad old geezers like you wear for bladder control.
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lack of, that is.
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Vintage Kola. Same ol, same ol. And I know you're frustrated cuz you can't run your picture gallery without blowin your cover. Now just switch on over to your Prettybabygirl identity so you can indulge your favorite fantasy about being light-skinned. What a pathetic nutcase.
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Actually, the sperm bank idea makes sense to me. Women waiting for and/or chasing men hasn't had an impact on men raising their children, so really what would change?

On the upside however, now she goes in KNOWING that he's not going to be around, instead of HOPING that he will and being heartbroken.
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To each its own. Sperm banks aren't for everybody. However, it is a good idea for single women who just want kids and nothing else.

But for women, who are seeking 'companionship' with a Black man a child conceived by some strange darkskin man from a sperm bank is not going to cure your desire for love & marriage.

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