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Chrishayden
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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 11:18 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

08/17/06 11:07Print this story Top Chinese Diplomat Tells U.S. To ‘Shut Up’ on Arms Spending

By ROBERT MACPHERSON, AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE, LONDON


China’s ambassador to the United Nations in Geneva, throwing diplomatic language to the wind, told the United States on Aug. 17 in no uncertain terms to “shut up and keep quiet” on the subject of Beijing’s growing military spending.
Interviewed for a BBC radio program on the topic, Sha Zukang also said China would “do the business” and sacrifice its own people’s lives if any nation supported a declaration of independence by Taiwan.
Responding to jitters within the Bush administration about Beijing’s spiraling military budget, Sha said the United States itself accounts for half of the entire world’s military spending.
”The China population is six times or five times that of the United States,” he said. “Why blame China?... It’s better for the U.S. to shut up and keep quiet. It’s much, much better.”
His voice rising, Sha continued: “It’s the U.S.’s sovereign right to do whatever they deem good for them — but don’t tell U.S. what is good for China. Thank you very much!”
Sha was equally explicit on Taiwan declaring independence with U.S. backing — a prospect that the BBC program, by former Beijing correspondent Carrie Gracie, called the motivating factor behind Chinese military spending.
”The moment Taiwan declares independence, supported by whoever, China will have no choice,” he said.
”We will do the business through whatever means available to my government. Nobody should have any illusions on that. We will do the business at any cost.”
He added: “It’s not a matter of how big Taiwan is, but for China, one inch of the territory is more valuable than the life of our people. We will never concede on that.”
China’s rising military spending, which has grown by double digits for much of the last 15 years, has caused concern in the United States and amongst China’s neighbors in Asia.
In March the National People’s Congress (parliament), largely a rubber-stamp for decisions taken at the top level of the Chinese Communist Party, approved a 14.7-percent increase in military spending to $35 billion (27 billion euros) this year.
Although this is paltry compared to the $419 billion (325 billion euro) U.S. defense budget in 2006, the Pentagon last year estimated that China’s defense spending was two to three times the publicly announced figure.
In a speech in Beijing in July, Defense Minister Cao Gangchuan said modernization of the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) remained a priority, the China News Service reported.
”The entire military must eye the historic destiny of China’s military in the new century and new era and push forward the main line of a Chinese-style revolution in military affairs,” he was quoted as saying.
He added: “We must unswervingly fulfill our sacred duty to defend state sovereignty, territorial integrity and security and never tolerate Taiwan independence and never permit Taiwan independence forces under any name or under any circumstances or form to split Taiwan from the motherland.”

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Kola_boof
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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 01:18 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

How is this more important than the lives of millions of little Chinese girls?

This "oneupsmanship" by men has been going on since day one, and as long as the military provides their "toys", it always will.

We can come back 200 years from now---and this bullshit will still be going on with military.

The lives and humanity of little girls are far more important than war games.

I think Tonya's story was way more important than this drivel myself.

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Tonya
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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 01:32 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mines were about sexism, human life and suffering.

Yours is about: war talk, harebrained machoism and..

THE DOLLA DOLLA BILL Y’ALL!!!!




Okay. How again is yours more important than mine???


(*rolling eyes*)


Men!
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Ntfs_encryption
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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 01:36 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh hum......
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Abm
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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 05:54 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I happen to believe that BOTH of the articles posted by Tonya and Chris about China are interesting and relevant.

*shrugs*
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Femrenoir
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Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2006 - 02:57 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I agree both are interesting. I'd heard about the results of the one child rule on their society and population (I saw an expose on 60 Minutes or some such show a couple of months ago).

I had not heard about the military spending or the 8/17 request for the US to 'shut up and keep quiet', so I could see where Chris was coming from in an 'Oh my gosh!!' sort of way.

It's a scary combination: Billion of dollars in weapons and a billion horny boys with no girls to get after.
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Chrishayden
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Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2006 - 08:52 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola and Tonya:

It is important because this story is about A bombs raining down on your heads and the heads of your children.

As usual you have been sidestepped by some non existent feminism issue. The Chinese are not American liberals. They could give less than a damn what you think about what they are doing with little girls when they are prepared to sacrifice hundreds of millions of their people of all sexes and ages to protect their sphere of influence.

Your talk is so 1970's. The Femnist revolution is over. Women lost. Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson run America.

You look at the trees but you cannot see the forest. Maybe it is just too big for you--sigh.

In case you think this is just crazy talk the U.S. Navy has decided that just such a war will take place 2010-2020 and it will begin over Taiwan.

The white folks are getting ready. We better get ready too.
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Tonya
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Posted on Monday, August 21, 2006 - 12:13 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

(((...they are prepared to sacrifice hundreds of millions of their people of all sexes and ages to protect their sphere of influence.)))


They ain't sacrificing shit. Please. They're just taking a page from Kim Jong Il’s sike-a-redneck book: making the punk bitch Yankee think that they are crazy enough to take a scud missile up theee ass. As I said: harebrained machoism...

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