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Serenasailor
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 06:02 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did anybody see this video? Alicia Keyes was singing with this Jamaican artist about life in the Ghetto. In the background were dark-skinned Jamaicans standing behind her. I thought to myself what a joke!!
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Ntfs_encryption
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 06:11 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Did anybody see this video? Alicia Keyes was singing with this Jamaican artist about life in the Ghetto. In the background were dark-skinned Jamaicans standing behind her. I thought to myself what a joke!!"

Yep! Just like this post.
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Chrishayden
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 06:11 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Name one person in showbiz who is not a joke. They are all fakes. It is show bizness. Tough guys play nice guys, wimps play tough guys, gays play straights, men play women, drunks play saints and so on and so on and so on.

Black people put too much emphasis on showbiz people thinking they can be actual leaders.

What other race goes to clowns and dancers for political leadership?
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Sabiana
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 06:19 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did anybody see this video? Alicia Keyes was singing with this Jamaican artist about life in the Ghetto. In the background were dark-skinned Jamaicans standing behind her. I thought to myself what a joke!!

And? Did she potray herself Jamaican? And if the background were all "light-skinned" would that be funny to? Oh-wait...colorist. How come all of your posts SS, center around colorism? (Intentional?) If I didn't know any better, I think you are obsessed with it. However, I rather you be obssessed with it instead of denying that it exists. (It's a start)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 06:59 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"What other race goes to clowns and dancers for political leadership?"

Well.....uhhhhhhh.....come to think of it, only one comes to mind.
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 08:06 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Chris_Hayden: Arnold Schwarzeneger, Ronald Reagan, Jesse Ventura...

It's not just a black problem with looking at "underqualified" individuals for leadership, it's an American problem. The average individual doesn't care about "credentials", they just care about people they "like" for whatever superficial, unrelated reason.



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Tonya
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 08:17 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I agree Serenasailor. I can't walk around claiming I'm white without err-body, especially white people, thinking I'ma fool. Nor can I claim bi-racial without "mixies" looking at my nappy ass sideways, dissing me, and swearing I've lost my ever-loving mind. But us?--ANY AND ERR-THING GOES. And we wonder why we can't even respect our selves.
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Lil_ze
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 08:27 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

as usual more of the same light skin/dark skin garbage, posted by a very disturbed color obsessed lunatic. lets see how many post this idiot can put up that DON'T whine about "light skin and dark skin" people. it may be an impossible task.
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Tonya
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 09:37 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Idiot? Lunatic? Obsessed? Disturbed?? Puleeeeeeze!!!

Projecting you onto others again, aye?
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Serenasailor
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 09:42 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You hit it on head Tonya. Nobody respects us because we don't respect ourselves. Anybody can be us. It is almost like we have no culture.
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Renata
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 10:25 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Projecting onto others indeed.....Mr. "I like light skinned and white women and dark skinned women are just jealous".

Tonya, I wish you and Kola lived in Atlanta.....we'd RUN this town! From the West End to East Lake. From College Park to Norcross.

(oh, btw, sadly, Queen's Restaurant, the only Nigerian/Cameroonian restaurant in the metro area burned down a couple of months ago. Now, the only way to get Nigerian or Cameroonian food is to actually KNOW a Nigerian or a Cameroonian).

I'm rambling.....

carry on.
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Renata
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 10:26 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh, it's time for me to go to sleep.
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Lil_ze
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 10:27 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

tonya, YOU were the person who referred to black men as "historical failures". so nothing you say has any credibility.
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 10:34 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

renata, you are asleep when you are awake. continue to search for stinking nigerians to feed you. stupid black woman.
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Renata
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 10:49 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Go back to kissing white women's asses and don't speak to me anymore.

I'd MUCH rather eat with proud Nigerians than with stupid niggers who flame up a board to remind us again and again and again that the black women he loves most are those who look most like his slavemaster and less like himself.

And it strikes me rather odd that you would come here and berate African people (from whom you came) and praise the beauty of white women on the same board.....and wonder why Tonya would call men like you a FAILURE.

If you said that, Tonya, I AGREE. I didn't get it as much before, but really, this is ridiculous. Same board, same low life motherfucker goes from "beautiful white women" to "stinking Nigerian". Motherfuckers wonder why we don't follow them in their "racism is dead" bullshit, when they're the bitches who are MOST racist against us than anyone.

Lil dick, DON'T FUCKING TALK TO ME EVER.
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 10:59 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Why is Alicia Keys a joke? For acknowledging her (partial) black heritage? Would it have been better if the people standing behind her were light-skinned?
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 11:06 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The joke is because Alicia Keys is not Jamaican.
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 11:09 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

hey, angry black woman, i don't "come" from any africans. i come from my forefathers. you need to study a bit before attempting to make a point. tonya didn't refer to black men like me as historical failures, she referred to ALL black men as historical failures.
the black women i love look like the slave master? what does that mean? i didn't "praise" the beauty of white women, i commented that there are some attractive white females out there (and there are). if you want to eat with a bunch of filthy nigerians, more power to you. but the truth is the dark races in africa, along with the arabs, sold our people to the white man as slaves. i don't know what the hell the nigerian has to be proud of, they are UGLY as hell. if you want to "eat" with people who hate you, more power to you.
im so happy that our people come in all shades. it makes life interesting. not like a bunch of ugly nigerians who all look and smell (awful) alike.
beyonce, ciara, keyshia cole, rachel true, raven simone, gabrielle union, tyrell hicks, regina hall, all beautiful. thank heavens we are who we are as a people. can anyone on this board name ONE nigerian that is remotely attractive? i don't think so. how stupid some of our people are.
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 11:13 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Another thing, Tonya.....I TOTALLY get your posts even more now. I usually get them, but don't understand really where you're coming from.

But, SERIOUSLY, the ONLY other place I think I could witness so much "white/light is right, African is backwards" talk is at a Klan rally.

As for the Alicia Keys thing....I agree with Chris here.....show biz people are fake. She included those people because black people are her fans. If her fan base changed, so would the people in her video.
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 11:24 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Alicia's talent is blown out of proportion. Most of her work is largely contributed to biting off of the old school legends. Nothing is original, and the media gives her ALL the credit for it.
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Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 08:03 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Wasn't Bob Marley - the patron saint of Jamaican singers - himself reputed to be biracial?
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Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 11:31 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Did anybody see this video? Alicia Keyes was singing with this Jamaican artist about life in the Ghetto. In the background were dark-skinned Jamaicans standing behind her. I thought to myself what a joke!!"


what does being light skinned or biracial have to do with not being from the ghetto or not being ghetto in the way one carries themselves?


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Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 10:41 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Bob Marley was Jamaican-he was born there. Alicia Keys is not--she's an American.
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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 11:15 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

What of it? Was Anthony Quinn and Indian or an Arab or a Greek or any of the other things he played? The last I heard there are plenty of white people born in Jamaica and who have Jamaican citizenship. The first guy to record Bob Marley, Leslie Kong, was an ethnic Chinese.

So what you have somebody pretending to be Jamiacan in a music video? She was not trying to vote in Jamaica or run for President.

Let me ask you something else. If being a Jamaican is so damn hot, what are all of them doing up here?
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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 11:15 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Alicia Keyes collaborating with another artist is not offensive, to me. Music is the universal "language" --it connects people and brings people together in ways that other art forms cannot.
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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 11:21 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I haven't seen the video or heard its related song. And I certainly NOT amongst Keys biggest fans. But I agree that I don't see much of a problem with her singing/performing West Indian musical stylings. Unless, of course, she suddenly started to try to bill and market herself as somekinda 'authentic' reggae artist of something (which I really do NOT expect Keys to ever try to do).
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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 11:25 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Arnold Shwartzenegger, Ronald Reagan, Jesse Ventura--the white folks (and I assume some black brown and yellow folks) turned to these guys when they had left show biz and were running for office.

We still follow the clowns while they are still in show biz and still clowning. The fact that people can ruminate over whether Puff Daddy or Russell Simmons is the most powerful black man in America is sad.
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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 11:33 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Chris,

Such is inevitable amongst a people who've prided themselves in becoming America's and the World's Entertainer.
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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 12:43 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Chrishayden, stop being so goddayum defensive and irrational.
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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 01:43 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

BB123: "Chrishayden, stop being so goddayum defensive and irrational. "

Babe. That's most of his raison d'etre.

Hahahahaha!!!!
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Posted on Friday, October 27, 2006 - 04:07 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I recently saw Alicia on Oprah performing with Bono. She sounded great, was well-spoken and came across as a very positive young woman.

I understand the larger point that Tonya and Renata make however, I wasn’t aware that she identified herself (ethnically) as anything other than the obviously mixed woman that she is.

Anyway, slightly off topic but readings posts by Tonya and Renata and others of like mind reminds me of the now defunct (?) Interracial Voice website, only on that site people of mixed parentage were stating the same point of view as Tonya and others. And there was vehement opposition from Black posters who refused to acknowledge any distinction between Black people and mixed people. Interestingly, the vast majority of people claiming to be White, Asian, or African didn’t have an issue with mixed people choosing their own identity.

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