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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 04:45 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Black America's plight alarms world AIDS meet

by Catherine HoursTue Aug 15, 1:09 PM ET

The high rate of HIV infections among African-Americans raised a thorny question at the world AIDS talks: has HIV become, as one prominent US activist said, a "black disease"?

Parallels between the disease's impact in the developing world and among minorities in the world's richest nation are sparking alarm here, as well as calls for a new generation of community leadership.

African-Americans represent only 13 percent of the US population but when it comes to AIDS, their community is affected at a staggering rate.

Some 49 percent of the 1.2 million Americans living with HIV or AIDS are black, according to the Kaiser Foundation, a non-governmental organisation.

"Today, AIDS in America is a Black disease," said Phill Wilson, executive director of the Black AIDS Institute, at the 16th International AIDS conference here.

"It's an unprecedented crisis in Black America, a crisis we should have seen coming."

Women in the African-American community are paying an especially heavy price, accounting for 67 percent of American women with the AIDS virus, according to Kaiser.

Some 46 percent of black gay and bisexuals are estimated to be infected, according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

Another cruel statistic: among young Americans between the age of 13 and 19, two thirds of those infected with HIV are black, with the virus most often passed on through unprotected sex.

Young black women are increasingly find themselves in the crosshairs of the disease.

Many experts and community members are asking why black America is bearing such a burden, an issue that touches on America's faultlines of race and poverty just as much as on grassroots problems.

The reasons, they say, include: poverty; tenacious homophobia within the community which makes talk about gay sex (and thus safe sex) difficult; and the preponderance of minorities in US jails, a breeding ground for HIV transmission.

Former president Bill Clinton, highly popular among African-Americans during eight years in the White House, drew an uncomfortable parallel here Monday between 21st century America and the developing world.

"We know a lot of it is a result of African American women being ironically in positions similar to that that women in some developing countries find themselves," Clinton said.

The former president said many black women contracted the disease from HIV-positive partners who had picked it up through sharing syringes, from other women or in prison.

"They really are facing the same sort of empowerment issues that a lot of women in developing countries are," Clinton said.
"I think we have to go back and try to change that as well as make a renewed effort on all the fronts we did back in the 1980s in America."

Images of flagrant sexuality assailing young African-American women in the media may also be partly to blame, according to Sheila Johnson, who co-founded Black Entertainment Television (BET) and became the first black American woman billionaire.

"Young girls are being challenged by the media to be sexual at a very young age," she said.
Johnson is involved in a number of sex education initiatives for young black women, some rooted in the booming youth culture built up around hip-hop and basketball.

It is also time for the black community, and especially churches, to step into the fight, said civil rights veteran Julian Bond.

"We failed because we haven't made this fight our top priority and some of us have failed because they've been distracted by other issues, safer and easier issues," he said.

"Some of us have chosen to be silent because of our own homophobia ... and we've been quiet too long."

"Our pastors have used the pulpit as a poisonous platform from which to spew ignorance, hatred and fear."

The US government is not blameless either, say some lawmakers who earned their spurs in the 25-year struggle against AIDS.

"HIV is affecting African-Americans disproportionately here in the West, in the most powerful country in the world, and this is unacceptable," said Democratic Representative Barbara Lee (news, bio, voting record).

"This immoral and illegal war in Iraq has cost us billions, the money is going to this war, tax cuts for the rich, while they're cutting our initiatives to combat this deadly disease."
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 05:50 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This breaks my heart. And there's no solution but we all must urge everyone we know - especially our friends who have teens and pre-teens - to buy their children some prophylactics and insist that they use them, particularly the girls. Don't delude yourselves into thinking that your children aren't having sex. The same way that we snuck around and had sex before we were ready, that's what their little fast behinds are doing now - only worse. That would be one thing that we can do.
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 05:53 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It's propaganda....to make it look like all of us are infected with horrible diseases. They did the same bullshit in the 1940s. Replace "AIDS" with "syphilis," "African-American" with "the Negro", and "Iraq" with "Japan" or "Korea", and you get the general picture.

BTW AIDS is NOT caused by a virus, but by some other shit. There IS an increase in AIDS due to an exploding prison population, dirty needles, etc., but the fucking media blows it WAY out of proportion. And when it comes to African AIDS(or even Indian and Chinese AIDS) their imaginations know no bounds.
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 05:58 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Images of flagrant sexuality assailing young African-American women in the media may also be partly to blame, according to Sheila Johnson, who co-founded Black Entertainment Television (BET) and became the first black American woman billionaire.


Pardon me. But I wonder whether the imagery promoted and aired by Sheila (and her ex-husband Bob) Johnson largely RESPONSIBLE for the plethora of lasciviousness that - amongst myriad other social maladies - RESULTS in high HIV/STD infection rates.
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 05:59 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I do agree with you on that Sckaspir. The A.I.D.S crisis is bad. But the #"s are not nearly as high as what they are saying.

Remember the White man is The Ultimate Liar.
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 06:00 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

HIV most likely doesn't even exist. But then, there's herpes.
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 06:10 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"The A.I.D.S crisis is bad. But the #"s are not nearly as high as what they are saying."

Oh really? And why is that...??????

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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 06:10 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

In Africa, and I have the word of DOZENS of Africans from all over the continent, the media has gone nuts, going into clinics where people are suffering from malnutrition, cholera, slim disease, etc., and reporting them as having AIDS. Crooked African doctors, who get paid for presenting bullshit information, are only too happy to oblige. My African friends ALL say that the Western media lies its ass off. In South Africa, close examination of the REAL facts shows that consumption of certain drugs like crack and something else (I forget the name) is concomitant with the rise in AIDS. Also, nitrite consumption (nitrites are prevalent in certain drugs that gays use in America and Europe), heroin, inflated stats, faulty tests(false positives) combine to create an "AIDS crisis" that is "apocalyptic"--yeah, right. It's been 25 years, and all those Africans and Afro-Americans who were supposed to be dead are still here, and some are getting healthier. Cookies, anyone?
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 06:23 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Part of the reason Blacks make up such a large percentage of HIV/AIDS cases is statistical: (1) Other groups at risk (e.g., gay men) have done a better job of curbing infection rates, (2) our blood supply is probably safer than it has ever been, so there are few--if any--new cases of infection there, and (3) we may be doing a better job in this country of encouraging (or, in some cases, mandating) testing plus our reporting system (e.g., through the CDC) is better than it was in the early days of the disease.

That being said, however, we still have a long way to go in African American communities. If other demographics can get control of this, then so can we.
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 07:03 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

<i>"That being said, however, we still have a long way to go in African American communities. If other demographics can get control of this, then so can we.",/i>

Yep! Ya hit the nail on the head! That is the only answer! There is no other antidote to this deadly disease. BLACK PEOPLE MUST TAKE COMPLETE CONTROL AND SET STANDARDS IN THEIR SEXUAL PRACTICES. That is the only way black Americans (or Africans) can stem the tide of infection.

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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 07:15 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Black ppl should set standards for sexual practices WHAT??? Dude did you just take a crack hit in between post?

Why should black ppl set standards for other races? And it is not just sexual practices that are causing the rise in A.I.D.S. It is due in part to the large incarceration rate of BM, and the sharing of dirty Heroin needles.
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 07:56 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Men being incarcerated together and having sex with each other would be considered a sexual practice.
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 09:21 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

“...has HIV become, as one prominent US activist said, a ‘black disease’?”

“‘Today, AIDS in America is a Black disease,’ said Phill Wilson, executive director of the Black AIDS Institute…”

These are two very unfortunate, extremely irresponsible, completely misinforming statements to make. What on earth were they thinking!? It was a bad idea to label AIDS a gay white man’s disease back in the 80‘s because people treated it as such, giving rise to the belief that one could only catch it by sleeping with gay white men. This is partly the reason why the epidemic is where it is today - misinformation. And to now tag it “a black disease” run the same catastrophic risk: badly informed non-black individuals neglecting to take the proper precautions, believing that the disease affects blacks and does not impact them. Yes, we need to press the issue but how can this be good??
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Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 12:36 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Education and awareness are keys to stopping the spread of the disease. But all the scare tactics ("You're gonna die, you're gonna die") are ineffective. Kids just tune out.

Plus I believe the government is withholding AIDS vaccine as a means of population control. My God if we can "cure" cancer we can damn sure "cure" AIDS.

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Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 08:07 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I think it rather odd to label a disease that can affect anyone as a "Black disease". I mean, Black foks are likely to suffer myriad other maladies in greater proportion than others. But are they "Black" conditions? Or are simply problems that we disproportionately suffer?
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My have we come full circle. In 1981, when AIDS was first "discovered" they were calling it a "Haitian" disease (a black nation). Twenty-five years later, it's a "black disease" once again.

Maybe we should stop fucking period.
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Fortified: "Maybe we should stop fucking period."


Conspiracy Theorist Moment: Maybe THAT, My Dear, is the PLAN.
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what i dont understand is if people are having less children than befoe in the black community and we'rew having less abortions, how is aids increasing if we're having less sex and using more protection than in the 80s?
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Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 12:19 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I don't believe that so-called "downlow" brothas are spreading AIDS to black women. If that was the case, how come white and women of other races getting infected in record numbers? As we know there are many, many interracial relationships today.

I think we should take a closer look at tatooing and piercing practices. Are the needles used always clean? Could the virus be passed this way?
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Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 12:38 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Misty,

Fewer children and abortions (which I'm not sure is true) does NOT necessarily equate to our doing what's required to thwart the spread of disease. That might be due as much as anything to higher use of birth control pills and other methods of contraception that do NOT prohibit viral/bacteria infections.

Also. The virus was much less prevalent amongst Black as a whole in the 80's. But because we didn't make meaningful steps to slow the spread of it then, it became more prevalent amongst us in the ensuing years.

Thus now, even though a Black woman of today might be much more sexually prudent, she's still probably more likely to catch HIV than, say, her mother was 20 years prior.
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Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 12:52 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Robynmarie,

You make an interesting argument. But we have no way of contrasting the degree and frequency of White down low activity to that of Black down low activity.

Maybe Black men engage in such more frequently than do White men (which, given our much HIGHER degree of incarceration, might be the case). Maybe Black men on the DL have a higher number sex partners. Maybe they're much less likely to use condoms than DL White men. Or they're less likely to get tested for HIV.

I would agree that the HIV issue is probably more complicated than simply blaming everything on DL Black men. But I also think we can NOT wholly dismiss such from the equation.


HIV does not survive very long when exposed to the elements. So unless tatooing and piercing is occurring is sort of a group or party type fashion, I doubt that that such would be a major contributor to the spread of the disease.
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Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 01:12 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Abm-
I am not contrasting DL black men and DL white men. I am saying why aren't white women (and others) who are sleeping with black men, why aren't their AIDS rates increasing? I can't believe DL brothas only sleep with black women there by causing our numbers to skyrocket.

Also from what I understand, the largest number of DL brothers are in Atlanta, whereas the largest % of black women infected with HIV/AIDS is in the Northeast. How does that happen?

My other objection is how are these cases reported? The numbers we read about for black women and others are gleened from public health departments and people who are diagnosed by private doctors, do not appear in official stats. Are private doctors required to report all new AIDS cases as well?
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Robynmarie,

Okay. Sorry for misreading what you'd written.

Now. I don't know whether there is a high rate of HIV infection between Black men and White women. But then I'm still not convinced that Black men as whole are having sex with non-Black women to the degree/frequency that's often alleged.

Sure SOME brothas are boning LOTS of White chicks. But I don't know what percentage of them are. Nor do I know the likelihood of such men being engaged in DL activity.

I think you ask a good question. But I also think all of the unknowns associated with who's doing whom make it difficult to use your question to discount Down Low activity from HIV issue.


And perhaps the highest rates of HIV infection amongst Black female are in the Northeast. But if the men truly are on the Quiet Tip, I think its almost impossible to really know WHERE they are and WHAT they're doing.


I think HIV/AIDS reporting criteria differ from state-2-state. But I'm not certain of that.
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We can't discount the fact that many black neighborhood are dense and thickly populated while white rural/suburban neighborhoods are spread further apart...making the disease more probable to spread faster in the black community. Go to an urban ghetto or projects and you'll see that everybody is fucking everybody. One day Tina is sleeping with Joe. The next week she's sleeping with Joe's 'boy' or cousin. At the same time, Joe's sleeping with her sister or her best friend. Not saying that whites aren’t fornicating at the same rate but they don't tend to run into the same people as often as blacks in heavily concentrated neighborhoods do. Consequently, if you have one guy who's HIV positive in the projects for example, since everybody is fucking each other, it's takes no time for that one guy's disease to spread to everyone else. This is partly why poverty is as much to blame for the spread of HIV amongst blacks here & around the globe (and poor trailer park whites) as anything else.
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Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 03:51 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tonya,

Most EXCELLENT point.

Bravo!
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Abm said:

"Now. I don't know whether there is a high rate of HIV infection between Black men and White women. But then I'm still not convinced that Black men as whole are having sex with non-Black women to the degree/frequency that's often alleged."

Robynmarie wrote:
Guess that's the good news.

The notion that people in the projects are all fucking each other is a ridiculous stereotype. Obviously, it isn't just sisters in the 'hood contracting HIV. Plenty of women who can afford to take Carribbean vacations also have the virus.

In small town, middle America whites live in just as close proximity, where "every one knows every one" and folks have "grown up together" the numbers aren't nearly as dramatic.

I believe stats can be manipulated to reflect anything you want them to say.

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((("The notion that people in the projects are all fucking each other is a ridiculous stereotype.")))



In this CLASSIST racist country/society, who do you think they are fucking?
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Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 05:49 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

(This is a board where we aren't afraid to keep things real - ACCURATE.)
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People do leave their neighborhoods for a variety of reasons, like to go to, say schools or nightclubs or to ride the bus or to go to the grocery store or to church or any number of other places you might meet someone of the opposite sex that you find attractive.

I agree with Michael Eric Dyson: The Black Middle Class has lost its mind.
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((("I agree with Michael Eric Dyson: The Black Middle Class has lost its mind.")))


You also believed that Indians never owned slaves!--so that statement doesn't mean much.
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You obviously haven't read Michael Eric Dyson's book "Is Bill Cosby Right?"
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BTW, what I don't know could probably fill an ocean. It's called learning. You've heard of that right?

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Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 07:15 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Robynmarie: In small town, middle America whites live in just as close proximity, where "every one knows every one" and folks have "grown up together" the numbers aren't nearly as dramatic.

I believe stats can be manipulated to reflect anything you want them to say.

Schakspir: Small town white America is very good at hiding things--they make a religion of keeping lids on their garbage cans....the better so people won't see them getting high on meth in their garages.
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Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 09:26 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Robynmarie:


You obviously haven't read Michael Eric Dyson's book "Is Bill Cosby Right?"


Tonya:

As a matter of fact I have and I agree with Eric Dyson AND Bill Cosby (of course I don't believe that Cosby should nor ought to be the one to do the talking for many reasons, some of which Dyson eloquently laid out). I happen to agree with E. Franklin Frazier most regarding the Black middle class though.


P.S., sorry for the dig..

it wasn't called for plus it was a bit hypocritical since I too have a lot to learn.
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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 12:58 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was Magic Johnson really "cured"? I haven't heard him talk about having AIDS/HIV in quite some time.
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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 01:38 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Magic Johnson is not "cured" of HIV! Some of the meds that HIV patients take can effect the blood profile and temporarily "mask" the virus.
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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 01:44 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

BB123,

Why don't you go have unprotected sex with him and find out?
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As I've mentioned before, I have some friends that are "in the industry" (business side), and they have told me tons of stories about tons of celebs --including Magic. They've told me how, even though he has HIV, women crawl all over him --and tell him they'll have sex with him --they "don't care" if he is HIV positive!!!!!!!!! YIKES! Intitally, I couldn't believe it, but the more I hear, these stores are more common than uncommon!

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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 01:54 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Moonsigns,

Yeah. There is never a shortage of women who worship celebrity over/above all else.

Hell. O.J.'s probably gotten more a$$ now than when he did before (allegedly...Hahahahaha!!!) killing Nicole.
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"Black ppl should set standards for sexual practices WHAT???"

FOR THEMSELVES! DUUUHHHHHH…!! When you indulge in risky and promiscuous sexual behavior without protecting yourself, you put yourself at risk. You set the standard of personal responsibility by using condoms, AIDS testing, not using intravenous drugs and seeking unprotected sex with high risk groups (i.e. homosexual men, bi-sexual men, intravenous drug users, one night stands with strangers, etc). And to be fair, there are instances when the individual is not indulging in risky sex but their sex partners are.

"Dude did you just take a crack hit in between post?"

No. But you probably did. You would know more about that (crack) than I would. I’m trying to give you the benefit of the doubt by assuming your inability to post an intelligent comment and your ongoing detachment from reality is the direct result of years of excessive drug use and not a congenital mental anomaly. So chill out and be nice!

Why should black ppl set standards for other races?

First of all, I never said black people should set the standard for other races! I said: BLACK PEOPLE MUST TAKE COMPLETE CONTROL AND SET STANDARDS IN THEIR SEXUAL PRACTICES. Notice I said “THEIR” meaning black peoples personal lives. I never said anything about other races. See, this is exactly what I’m referring to. Your inability to comprehend or understand anything that is plainly written. It’s the drugs man. STOP IT! And since you did mention setting standards for other races (your words –not mine!) it would be nice if black people did set the standards for the lowest rate of AIDS and STD infections. I certainly wouldn’t be opposed to this. But it sounds like you are –especially if the majority of non-infected people were light complexioned. Right?

"And it is not just sexual practices that are causing the rise in A.I.D.S. It is due in part to the large incarceration rate of BM, and the sharing of dirty Heroin needles."

Oh really? Ya think? So you are suggesting the majority of new black AIDS cases are bi-sexual ex-cons or intravenous heroin users??? The reality is this; Black American women are most likely to be infected with HIV as a result of sex with men –black men in particular. Unfortunately, many are not aware of their male partners’ possible risks for HIV infection, such as unprotected sex with multiple partners, bisexuality, or intravenous drug use.

Intravenous drug use is the “second” (unprotected sex being the first) leading cause of HIV infection for black women and the “third” leading cause of HIV infection for black men. Did you know that?
Another depressing fact is that black people have the highest rates of sexually transmitted diseases (STDs) in the nations. In 2003, black Americans were about 19 times as likely as whites to have gonorrhea and about 6 times as likely to have syphilis.

When AIDS emerged on the national scene 25 years ago (before you were born), it was branded a gay white man's disease. Anyone who was around remembers the hysteria and the finger pointing towards white gay men. Not exactly the case today.

Today, the infection demographics have shifted drastically. Of those infected with AIDS, 46% are black compared with 21% of the whites and 17% of the Hispanics. How did that happen?

It should be noted that millions of dollars has poured into research and prevention efforts. The result of this effort has reduced the number of diagnoses and deaths in the United States over the years. But ugly reality check is this: That success hasn't touched black Americans. A direct result of black people as a group (not individuals) being reluctant to acknowledge the disease's impact in their community and the reality of how it is transmitted. AIDS activists, researchers and people who actually have HIV say this is the biggest hurtle blacks as a group face in dealing with AIDS: Denial and reluctance to address the disease and make a group effort to curtail it. As a result of this senseless denial and self imposed ignorance (like you) black Americans are the only group experiencing a continuous rise in HIV infections, even though there is little difference from the rest of the population in how black people contract it. Why? Because a depressing number of blacks refuse to impose a personal standard of sexual rules to protect themselves. IT ALL BOILS DOWN TO PERSONAL REPSONISBLITY AND CHOICES! Contracting AIDS is avoidable. It’s not like breathing the air or drinking water. The overwhelming cases of AIDS are the result of sexual contact and intravenous needle sharing. Both are the result of choices and lack of sexual standards created to protect oneself. What part of this do you not understand???


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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 03:06 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"BB123,

Why don't you go have unprotected sex with him and find out?"

I'm saving that one for Wentworth Miller.
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BB123,

I'm sure you, he and his lover 'Twoine will have a wonderful time.
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This is the last time, my Boo is NOT gay.
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I love that man, I can't let you make false accusations about his sexuality.
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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 04:52 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

BB123: "I can't let you make false accusations about his sexuality."

Okay. What about true accusations about his sexuality?

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