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Abm
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Abm
Post Number: 5491
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 08:28 am: | 
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You concur with this section of a recent Jimi Israel blog?
"Homosexuality has become like the new racism in a time when political correctness has gone wild. Anyone not on-board completely is wrong. Just wrong...It’s gotten to the point where gays pull the “gay card” out of thin air and create a problem under the guise of advocating for change. And there is no dialog to be had, because, just like with the lame race card, the fact that you even think there is room for dialog proves you are some kind of racist. Or homophobe. If you don’t go along without questions, you are absolutely wrong."
http://www.jimiizrael.com/ji/2006/07/25/10.03.18/index.html#more |
Shemika
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Shemika
Post Number: 129
Registered: 02-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 10:27 am: |
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Both the concept of race and the validation of homosexuality were created for and promoted primarily by whites. They politicize whatever they want to engage in and use it as a weapon to bash their subjects or justify themselves. Notice when they are engaging in homosexuality, of their own choosing, they attempt to politicize and redefine it to exploit the trials blacks have gone through as a result of the European dehumanization of the black (African) biological identity – another justification for their actions. So upon convenience suddenly a sex habit is equated to the genetic identity of blacks just because some white homo puts it in a book and other whites will feel better about what they are doing, more justifications. The same way they feel better about engaging in racism when they can silence blacks from complaining about it by accusing them of 'playing the race card'. They feel being white gives them the privilege to interpret everything to benefit their own stance. |
Fortified
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Username: Fortified
Post Number: 217
Registered: 04-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 12:04 pm: |
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What about black homos? |
Yvettep
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Username: Yvettep
Post Number: 1186
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 03:20 pm: |
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What about those brothers in the pic Kola posted on another thread? LOL and lawdamercy! |
Shemika
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Username: Shemika
Post Number: 131
Registered: 02-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 06:38 pm: |
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"What about black homos?"
Just like the blacks whose views about blacks being inferior to whites support white supremacy, they are just along for the ride. Both are injurious to black progress and stability.
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Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 5541
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 11:59 am: |
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Shemika,
I'm not sure I follow you. Do you think White foks are the only purveyor of gay and lesbian sex? Or are you blaming the current politicking surrounding homosexuality (e.g., advocacy of gay rights, marriage) is some form of White social engineering?
Because I think those are 2 very different issues. |
Semperfemme
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Username: Semperfemme
Post Number: 22
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 02:15 pm: |
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"It’s gotten to the point where gays pull the “gay card” out of thin air and create a problem under the guise of advocating for change"
Like how heterosexuals pulled the "gay card" to justify not allowing gays to lead boy scout troops or get married?
Everyone "pulls cards" but it seems like people get in a tizzy when the cards aren't pulled in their favor. This goes for the GLBT community, Heteros, Blacks, Whites and whoever else.
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Yvettep
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Username: Yvettep
Post Number: 1195
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 09:22 pm: |
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There is a lot of history in the blogosphere between Mr. Izrael and several gay and lesbian bloggers. I have come to the conclusion that at this point here in the US, GLBT issues are in the same category as abortion--Most folks have pretty much ground into their "camps" and it is very difficult to have constructive dialog as a result. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 5560
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 08:03 am: |
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Yvettep,
I think the biggest - and, perhaps the ONLY real - problem straight foks have with gay/lesbian foks is they fear their sanctioning homosexuality will result in their CHILDREN choosing to become homosexuals. I know in a sense that sounds crazy. But when you look past ALL the arguing and rhetoric, I bet you'll find THAT issue hiding behind the velvet curtain. |
Yvettep
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Username: Yvettep
Post Number: 1202
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 10:32 am: |
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Can you say more about that? Why do you think straight people fear that? |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 5562
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 10:46 am: |
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Yvettep,
I think it's LARGELY a reproductive issue. If my son loves/marries another man and/or daughter loves/marries another woman, will I have grandchildren, great-grandchildren, etc.?
Basically, will my progeny and heritage pass on long before I'm laid to rest?
This is an element of homosexuality that is seldom (if ever) mentioned. But I truly believe any/all reproof of homosexuality stems from this PRIMARY issue and concern.
For doesn't the Bible - which Judaism, Christianity and Islam is wrought - requires that man "Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth." (Genesis 9:1).
PS: Often, there is real and practical justification for religious beliefs. Too bad we spend too much time arguing about what GOD demands of us sans discussing WHY HE requires such.
But then, perhaps we eschew the WHY because we fear that such does not exist...or we are ignorant of it. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 5563
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 10:54 am: |
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Yvettep,
Though I OFTEN make light or fun of GLBT'ers, I have generally transitioned from the demonization of homosexual thing. I do accept that a percentage of homosexuality exist within nature, including human beings.
But just because I accept the natural existence of homosexuality, that does NOT mean I concur with EVERYTHING someone does under some often dubious, even contradictory cloak of "gay rights". Because, frankly, the AIDS issue is LARGELY (Note: I say largely, NOT exclusively.) a function of lots of gay men behaving VERY irresponsibly. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 5564
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 11:05 am: |
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Yvettep,
I've expressed this here before: The other concern I have about ubiquitous acceptance or practice of homosexuality is the extent to which such LESSENS the chances and likelihood that men and women will bridge and arbitrate the myriad differences between the sexes. This is a particular concern I have amongst BLACK people, given our already tumultuous social, economic and cultural problems and impediments.
Simply: If boning another man is just as accepted as boning a woman, how likely am I to concern myself with making a life with a woman, who'll probably require considerably MORE of me than an erect penis and/or open & willing orifices? |
Kola_boof
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Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 2520
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 12:53 pm: |
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ABM, you Homo-phobe!!!!!
LMAO! 
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Kola_boof
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Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 2521
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 12:58 pm: |
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But seriously. I think that nature REQUIRES a certain amount of homosexual presence in any society; and because of the HATRED against these people, I think we do need some set of "laws" to protect them and their freedoms.
I also admit that like so many "divas"--a huge part of my following is comprised of enthusiastic gay black men and women--they come dressed up as "ME" at my appearances in California, they LOVE the nude photos, the fiery crackle-pop writing and the larger than life persona and are the only faction of my fans who ENCOURAGE me to be 100% Kola. If not for them, I wouldn't have that secret underground that keeps my career afloat, and certainly--I feel the need (the sincere need) to express my love and gratitude to them. They are people, too.
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Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 5573
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 01:40 pm: |
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Kola,
I can see YOU have a large gay-tran contingent. You to a large degree emanate certain elements of femininity that many gays enjoy celebrating and emulating. |
Kola_boof
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Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 2526
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 01:57 pm: |
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ABM, answer my question in POETRY. |
Abm
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Abm
Post Number: 5586
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 02:39 pm: |
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Kola,
I just noticed this request. Did I answer your question? |
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