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Robynmarie
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Post Number: 9
Registered: 04-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 10:51 am: | 
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Her movie Phat Girlz is a bust. Why do foks hate Mo'Nique?
Is it because she celebrates being a full-figured actor who is rich and famous in a world that worships stick figures? |
Brownbeauty123
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Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 156
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 11:00 am: |
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She's annoying. And very unattractive to me. Perhaps, if she lost some lbs, you'd be able to see her attractive features covered under all that weight.
Why can't she be big and happy, without undermining thin women? She is so insecure. And a negative walking Black stereotype. |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 2097
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 11:04 am: |
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Robynmarie:
Brownbeauty's post is the answer.
An anorexic bitch reviewing the movie in our local paper commented that Monique is only beautiful in some parts of Africa.
That and all the beer bellied sharecroppers we got waddling around THIS town!
We live in a society that wants you to stuff your gut with tons of food and do everything that will make you fat yet hates fat people--
Probably another mode of social control. Make 'em all fat and make 'em hate themselves.
But I haven't seen the movie. It may not be funny. She certainly was funny in Queens of Comedy.
If it is funny we should get Brownbeauty's address and send a big fat woman over her house to sit on her.
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Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 402
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 11:08 am: |
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I think Mo'Nique is funny, but I wouldn't go see the movie because the title alone doesn't interest me enough to spend money or undivided attention time to go out and see it. That doesn't mean I hate her. I'll watch the movie when it comes on HBO, like I do with most all movies anyway. Meanwhile, Mo'Nique should probably focus her attention on her other ventures and leave those type of movies alone. I wonder if they were expecting all the fat ppl to go watch a movie about fat ppl (when they probably can't fit in the seats), or did they think skinny ppl would be interested in a movie about fat ppl, or were we supposed to go see it just because we're Black? |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 2099
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 11:19 am: |
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Mzuri:
Do I sense some AfroFatphobia here?
Did you hate Jackie Gleason? How about that woman who played Mimi on Drew Carey?
Or is it just Fat Black women? How do you feel about Solomon Burke? Cedric the Entertainer? |
Brownbeauty123
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Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 158
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 11:21 am: |
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Chrishayden--
What does your post have to do with me?
Everytime I look at her, she disgusts me. She is TOO BIG. |
Afroerotik
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Post Number: 45
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 11:23 am: |
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Mo'Nique is beautiful by any standard. I don't think she's funny but I commend her on efforts to show larger women as attractive and to silence the thin women, of which I happen to be one, who denigrate her for her size. Brownbeauty, you aren't really living up to your name. I promise, you don't get more beautiful the more you slander fat women. That's a really important lesson you should learn if you are more than 12 years old.
I'm interested in our society not being so superficial. Let's make a movie about skinny people embracing people for who they are on the inside and not their aesthetics. I'd be the only one in the theather. |
Brownbeauty123
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Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 159
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 11:27 am: |
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You are reading way too much into this.
She's huge, unhealthy, and promotes a self destructive lifestyle.
People who are her size usually are MISERABLE.
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Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 2102
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 11:34 am: |
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Brownbeauty:
You sound like Hitler. You don't know anything about this woman.
When I was in school, I learned that there are three body types. Everybody is not a toothpick.
In fact, let me come out now and admit I hate skinny women. They are treacherous, selfish, petty, angry at the world and hate all other people. They love things not people.
If it were up to me I would wipe them all from the face of the earth--or stuff them full of food until they looked human instead of like storks or human walking sticks. |
Brownbeauty123
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Post Number: 160
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 11:37 am: |
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Afroerotik,
I think skinny is just as unhealthy as being obese. There is nothing wrong with women who embrace a very healthy, full, and curvy figure...
Monique is on the extreme side, she is too big to be telling people it is okay to stay obese.
Women and men who are her size usually suffer greatly due to the health issues related to carrying all that weight. I have family members who are 300+, and cannot walk through a mall for 5 minutes without needing to sit down to catch their breath. They often complain of suffocating in their sleep because of all the fat.
Recently, a young guy only 20 years old, someone I went to high school with, died last summer because he was BIGGER than MoNique. That is why I don't like her, it is not acceptable to tell people it's perfectly fine to carry all that extra weight.
I had a friend who was 298, and used to accuse me of being bulemic because I can eat a bag of chips, and not balloon up to 400lbs--what she did not understand was that moderation was the key.
Most obese people always blame their weight on genetics when in fact its because they EAT too much. If you know obesity runs in your family than stop chowing down on hamburgers all the time--you don't have the metabolism for it. |
Brownbeauty123
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Post Number: 161
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 11:41 am: |
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Chrishayden,
I realize people come in all shapes, and sizes. Being skinny is NOT for everybody...I am a Black woman I should know this more than anybody..
But obesity is something that should be prevented, and not encouraged. She is not a healthy, her size is far too extreme to try to tell people it's okay. |
Mzuri
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Post Number: 404
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 11:45 am: |
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CH - You are correct, I do have a thing about fat ppl. I can't stand to watch them eat in restaurants and I especially can't stand the way they behave around food. I knew a fat someone who acted like if he missed a single meal he would fall out. Hello - all that fat will sustain you!!! Duh!!!
Whenever I see these obese ppl on TV talking about how they just gained all these HUNDREDS of pounds, I can't imagine their stupidity. I've been fortunate to never really have a weight problem, but if I ever got to the point where my clothes don't fit - I'd go on a diet right then - not after I gained a hundred pounds. Then they are all in such a hurry to lose the weight when it took them years to gain it, but they want to go on a weight loss diet for a couple of weeks and be a size zero again. Or they have to get that stomach staple surgery so they'll stop over-eating. That's nonsense!!!
And fat ppl stink because they don't bathe properly. Why? Because they can't even fit in the bath tub properly and they can't even reach the cracks of their ass. But mostly the reason that I don't like fat ppl is because they lack self-discipline. |
Afroerotik
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Post Number: 47
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 11:59 am: |
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Brownbeauty, MD. Your false concern for obese people's health is only thinly veiled by the fact that you, and your fellow posters, are unwilling to accept the fact that food can be a coping mechanism for some people and that doesn't mean that they are weak, lazy, or unattractive. We are all living in a racist, fucked up society that has damaged us all. Some people need food for comfort; others find solace in being close-minded, hypocritical, and judgmental. You being the later of course, it's understandable that you can't see your own dysfunction and that you'd rather single out large people for their insecurities rather than helping them find the beauty that is inside them that they so often feel the need to hide for some reason. Oh, were the world as narrow and simple as your little reality and we could all be a size 8 and run around objectifying ourselves in the name of being attractive. Alas, what happens to a dream deferred? |
Chrishayden
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Post Number: 2104
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 11:59 am: |
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Mzuri:
By the way, what army was your father in--The Wehrmacht? |
Shyfox
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Post Number: 70
Registered: 04-2006
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 12:02 pm: |
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I'm no doctor; but I bet being filled with venom and hatred is more dangerous than being overweight. Obesity kills the body; hatred kills the soul. |
Afroerotik
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Post Number: 49
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 12:11 pm: |
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Let me say that I'm a skinny woman and I have nothing but love for any woman that has found a way to feel comfortable in her skin without degrading other women in the process. |
Rustang
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Username: Rustang
Post Number: 296
Registered: 04-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 12:13 pm: |
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Obesity is about to outrun smoking as the number one preventable cause of death.Come on Chris.You can do it.Drop a couple of pounds. I sure would hate to read in the paper 'Author and gay rights activist Chris Hayden killed by his humongous ass.' |
Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 406
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 12:14 pm: |
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No SILLY. The United States Army. What are you insinuating anyway? That I'm a nazi? ROLMBAO!!! |
Brownbeauty123
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Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 162
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 03:02 pm: |
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The pity that people express towards obese people just further encourages them to stuff their face. What about a solution to help them with their eating problems?
This is not the same as race or gender--we're talking about obesity, people who continually eat and eat themselves to an early death. Pointing out that food is used as a tool to comfort one's problem is simply avoiding the issue to further enable people to stay morbidly obese. I cannot reason why someone would want to live a lifestyle like that. |
Roxie
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Post Number: 809
Registered: 06-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 03:40 pm: |
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Brown,
Just because someone's large doesn't mean they are overweight or in bad health. Your only overweight if it threatens your health. And guess what? Some large people have good cholesteral, decent blood pressure, or overall good health. How do we know Mo'nique doesn't power walk every day or eat grilled chicken and fruit salad for lunch?
Also, some people have naturally large builds. Star Jones and Al Roker are PERFECT examples of how some people were NEVER MEANT to be Slim.
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Brownbeauty123
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Post Number: 163
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 04:10 pm: |
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There is a difference between being overweight, and obese.
A few extra vanity pounds will not make one's health suffer greatly. But an extra 100lbs+ will.
And for those who are obese, and are in perfect health, people like that are far, few and inbetween. This is not the reality for many.
If MoNique powerwalks everyday and eats grilled chicken, fruit, and salad for lunch than she should be a hell of a lot smaller than she is by now. Unless she does that, and tops it off with an extra large pizza for dinner.
We are not talking about someone who is Queen Latifah's size--big boned, large frame, but someone who is beyond that.
Star Jones is no longer obese, she is now just overweight. She is a perfect example of a woman, who used to preach how she was so happy, and secure with her 100+ added weight who ended up doing an 180--lost a significant amount, seems happier, and most of all admitted how miserable it was to be so big.
Again, I am not talking about people who are simply overweight, with large frames, I am discussing people who are obese--unhealthy. That is why I do not like MoNique, not only does she make it seem that its okay to stay that way, but she also slanders thin women in the process. All the 'skinny bitches' jokes have got to stop. She has to build herselp up, while putting others down. Why someone want to defend her is beyond me.
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Brownbeauty123
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Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 165
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 04:19 pm: |
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And again, I do not find her attractive. Her face is far too cherubic to actually see her physical features--like eyes, cheekbones, neckline, chin. |
Roxie
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Post Number: 810
Registered: 06-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 05:06 pm: |
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Good argument. |
Lil_ze
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Post Number: 94
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 06:02 pm: |
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john candy dropped dead because he was obese and unhealthy. big pun (puerto rican rapper) dropped dead because he was obese and unhealthy. mo' nique is obese and unhealthy. she acts as if being obese and unhealthy is some kind of "badge of honour". she is absoulutely disgusting, because she is so dam fat, and unhealthy. all the people who applaud mo'nique for the sloppy way she looks, and say "you go girl"! i want to hear what they say when mo'nique drops dead of a heart attack. kelly price saw this and slimmed down. |
Renata
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Post Number: 991
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 06:40 pm: |
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I don't like or dislike Mo'Nique. I seriously have no opinion about her as I don't watch enough of TV or movies to get what she's about.
I do know what she looks like. I believe that people dislike her because she's EVERYTHING that's supposed to be unattractive. She's black, female, AND fat. And she has the nerve to think so highly of herself. If she were on some talk show saying how much she hates what she sees in the mirror, people would start to like her a little more. "At least she's TRYING to make herself look better." But because she LIKES herself, she's "obviously" got a screw loose somewhere. Go figure.
As for her dropping dead, I'm sure she knows that could happen. If she doesn't care, I don't know why anyone else does. |
Renata
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Post Number: 992
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 06:43 pm: |
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Well, considering my previous post, I think I kind of ike her. I love women who love themselves and won't believe anyone who tells them they're not "ALL THAT". It's those who have problems with their hair color, height, skin tone, bony knees, etc., that I kind of stay away from. Mo'Nique has positive energy about herself and loves herself even if nobody else does.
So, GO MO'NIQUE! |
Fortified
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 08:45 pm: |
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She sends a dangerous message to black women, that it's okay to be obese, fat. Obesity is unhealthy and it is unsightly. The white-dominated media loves black women like her and those comedians that cross-dress into fat black women (Martin Lawrence, Tyler Perry). It promotes the fat, black mammy stereotype, which is just as bad as the ghetto hoochie stereotype.
Black women like Gabrielle Union, Angela Bassett should be promoted more. These women hit the gym instead of burying their faces in buckets of fried chicken. Focus on the body and not just your hair and nails.
Note:
Being Nicole Richie skinny is just as unhealthy and unsightly, too.
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Mzuri
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Post Number: 409
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 08:55 pm: |
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See what you started Fortified - now you've got me hungry for some fried chicken!!! |
Fortified
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 09:06 pm: |
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LOL!!!
It's all about moderation. I don't like fried chicken, but I love french fries, chicken burgers, cinnamom rolls and all of that! But I demonstrate self-control!!! I EXERCISE!!! We eat to live, not live to eat. Sistas are eating themselves into an early oversized grave!! And those anorexic women are having equally disturbing relationships with food.
Food is one of those pleasurable requirements to life, just like sex. Both are enjoyed when done in moderation!!! |
Lil_ze
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Post Number: 95
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 09:10 pm: |
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let us all applaud gabrielle union, rachel true, megan good, regina hall, ciara, tyrell hicks, kelly rowland,stacy dash, dominique dawes and all other black women who take pride in being healthy, and looking GOOD! |
Brownbeauty123
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Post Number: 166
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 09:14 pm: |
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Renata,
Everything she stands for is what Black women should be against. Have you seen her show the Parkers? She played this obese, insecure, and embarassingly desperate single mother who chased the same man who belittled her for YEARS. She basically promoted the stereotype that obese women are so hard up for companionship that they will persistently pursue a man despite him finding her grotesque, and undesirable--the goal is just to have his flesh and to hell with what his mind thinks of her. The character was so delusional I didn't even think it was funny. I hated that show. The dude was embarassed to even admit he had got her pregnant, she was his secret piece of ass. Terrible show.
And heavy women are supposed to look up to her? |
Brownbeauty123
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Post Number: 167
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 09:20 pm: |
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I think Queen Latifah & Kimberly Locke, and another Black lady who hosts the show where they decorate houses (???) are much more suited role models to represent full figured women. They are rather realistic, and are not pro-glutony. |
Fortified
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 09:56 pm: |
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Queen Latifah and Kelly Price are pro-exercise. Not everyone can be a size 2, but I don't think it's natural for a woman to be a size 22, either. |
Roxie
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 10:04 pm: |
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I'm a size 24. But then, I'm also 6 ft tall w/ the skeletal frame of a football player.
I'm overweight, but I'm FAR from OBESE. |
Abm
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 01:26 am: |
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I don't have a problem with Mo'Nique being fat. Nor do I see her fame as being detrimental to the health of African American women.
But I'll likely NEVER support much of what she does because I find her to be unpretty, loud, crude and just flatout UNFUNNY. |
Serenasailor
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 02:44 am: |
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I hate Mo'Nique because she is fat,loud and obnoxious. She promotes an unhealthy lifestyle that is killing millions of Black American women. Did you know that a whoping 70% of Black American women are overweight. And as a group black women are the least likely to exercise, and diet.
Mo'Nique is the stereotype that promotes white supremacy Why? Might you ask. Because she puts Black American women in a box. She promote the racist sterotype that we used to see in movies back in the 30's and 40's. Mo'Nique characters are often desexualized. Which caters to the stereotype that white ppl hold about black women. That we are so undersirable that not even black men want them so that is why they chase white women. Therefore it is up to the white man to protect "his women".
White ppl(women in particular)love Monique because she is a constant reminder of how inferior black women are to white women. That is why characters like Monique are often promoted in the media over women like Gabrielle Union, Sanaa Lathan, and Nia Long. Black ppl like to show Mo' Nique because we think that we are being diverse in showing the many facets of black women, not realizing that this is all they think we are anyway.
I think that we need to start building more positive images of purselves other than shaking our booties, playing basketball, gangsters, and loud, grossly obese women. |
Robynmarie
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 09:24 am: |
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I don't understand why everyone is saying Mo'Nique is unhealthy...she just delivered twins!
Her size and her kiss-my- assitude are her gimmicks. All entertainers have them. I am not sure she believes everything she says. Like "Skinnny Women are Evil" that is obviously a joke. Not all skinny women are evil, are they?
I like her because she is mega-rich. I would much rather be rich than thin.
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Brownbeauty123
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 10:27 am: |
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Just because she just delivered twins doesn't mean she's 'healthy'. Lots of people with challenging medical conditions can give birth to healthy children.
And her gimmick is rather unfunny, and hypocritical. |
Fortified
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 11:40 am: |
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I actually agree with Serenasailor on this one!! |
Rustang
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Fortified, you might want to stop in somewhere for a quick psychological evaluation if that starts happening on a regular basis.
Everything under the sun promotes white supremacy in your mind,SS.Anyone that is propelled to stardom could be said to be trying to put an entire class in a box and be berated for promoting an unhealthy stereotype.She is an individual, not a class.If a person is ignorant enough to take one example of a people and uses that as being the standard of what to expect from each individual of that people,since all members of a class are indentical down to the most trivial minutia,then that person is beyond the reach of rational thinking and will be driven to and fro by their own ignorant passions until the day that they die.She's merely one big ole fatty that caught a break and is now trying to capitalize on it in order to make her own life more comfortable.I don't recall ever having heard her say that all black women should strive to attain a disgustingly massive body like hers.We often try to read a little too much into what happens in the world of the celebrities.It has little relation with the real world. |
Fortified
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 01:29 pm: |
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LOL @Rustang. It was a ONE time agreement, trust me!
Rustang, look at all the ways in which the fat, black mammy is promoted in the media. Mo'Nique is just one example: Queen Latifah, Oprah, Star Jones, Madea, Big Momma's house, Nell Carter, etc., etc.
Look at TV commercials! There are only two types of black women promoted in your average TV commercial: the loud fat mammy type, or the slimmer, light-complected, stringy-haired "woman of color".
Mo'Nique didn't catch a lucky break, she made it for a purpose, she is a pawn. |
Rustang
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 01:53 pm: |
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Fortified, there is no question, at least not in my mind, that the major media outlets promote a very negative stereotype of black women.And yes, Mo'Nique is a very small cog in a very big machine.My point was merely that it is not really any individual's fault for the less than flattering images we see on the television.If one wants to pull a name out the hat for an individual to blame, how Rupert Murdoch instead of Mo'Nique? There is an individual that is largely to blame for what is portrayed in the homes of america. |
Shemika
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Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 02:20 pm: |
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I agree with Rustang. I don't see what the big deal is or how anyone could hate someone just for being fat. There are a lot more negative things someone could be or do that are common practice among celebrities, like promiscuous, white worship or drug users. Yet things like that get celebrated because white folks sanction it. Looks should not be that big of a deal.
Whites hate black women for having African features and hair texture because it’s a way of promoting their own likeness and to ensure procreation. And the fact we are willing to desecrate our racial features and that black men rate women along those lines as well, shows that blacks are worshiping at that same alter of white supremacy. I see no dignity or positive role model in that. I'm not impressed with pale washed out complexions or Caucasian hair. And even worse they are ugly on the inside as well because they love to assign value to others based upon the own likeness. Who cares if they find us attractive, we should find 'us' attractive.
In any case, there are also plenty of obese white women and I see black men trailing behind them all the time.
People are obese for all sorts of reasons including glandular, hormonal, and other health related issues others aren't aware of. Even a lot of medication people have to take cause enormous weight gain. A friend with lupus had to take meds that caused her to gain a lot of weight, as well as others I've known with various ailments. And just because you can eat like a horse and not gain weight when you are in your 20's doesn't mean it won't catch up with you later on at some point. A lot of people try to starve themselves and still gain. Also, not everyone has the finances or time to eat health food or go to the gym.
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Shemika you missed my point. I place anorexic and obese individuals in the same plane. Both parties have unhealthy relationships with food which are indicative of a psychological problem...
My rant deals with the gross promotion of fat black women over fit black women in the media, i.e., the promotion of Mo'Nique over Gabrielle Union. It sends a dangerous message to our young black women who are already inundated with images of video hos...
There are a lot of causes for weight gain, but the number one cause for mass weight gain is preventable: overeating and living a sedentary lifestyle. This is killing black people, especially black women. You don't need a lot of money to eat healthy, and it costs you NOTHING to get off your ass and take a walk/jog outside for at least 30 minutes. |
Brownbeauty123
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Shemika,
No one is hating Mo'Nique for just being fat. Let's not take a good message and turn it into something negative. In this thread, people have fairly and clearly stated several other reasons as to why they destest her image--one of them just so happens to be her promoting obesity to women of color.
And no one under this thread spoke against people who were obese due to medical complications caused by prescription drugs, and/or hormonal drug treatments--it was all aimed towards people who lived a lifestyle full of greasy foods, and lack of exercise.
As much as people try to blame obesity due to some thyroid condition and so on, it has been noted far too many times that the majority of people who are fat is because they eat too much. And for people who have a very slow metabolism then you need to accomodate your diet so you won't gain weight. So if you get older, and you notice you can no longer eat Big Mac's and squeeze into a size 6, then what do you need to do besides, complain about how your metabolism not being the way it is...start exercising!
You do not need to join a gym or spend any money to walk. It is free, and the most easiest simple, natural and effective exercise of them all. Stop making excuses to better your health, which is why so many people have heart disease, diabetes, and all these other challenging medical conditions. How can you make excuses to save your life?? |
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I just don't think it does any good to bash someone without knowing what their situation is? It's so shallow. And in any case, everyone has some area of weakness. But I seriously doubt Mo’Nique is inactive. Also, Mo'Nique is only one black woman and does not represent the way most of the few black females they put on TV look. Most of them, like those on Girlfriends, etc., are pretty thin. If anyone's being promoted in the media it is white women and those closest to their likeness. The difference is that although they regularly put all types of white people on TV, white features are normalized so no one makes a big deal if some of them are fat, unattractive or otherwise imperfect. |
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We know Mo'Nique's situation--she likes to eat A LOT and she said so in countless interviews. That if she goes to the buffet she's going to eat the ENTIRE damn buffet. That's all she ever preaches. |
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I’m sure she’s just joking like many comedians before her. Richard Pryor even joked about his drug use. But in the real world there are all sorts of people who look different ways. That's life and an obese person has just as much right to be represented as anyone else regardless who approves, it has nothing to do with promotion. I don't agree with a lot of promiscuity and life style choices I see being promoted on TV, especially with all the deaths and suffering from STDs. Yet because white America approves few complain, but we know they look down on fat black women and so do many of us. |
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I know I am late on this thread: Are people assuming that the audience "hates" Mo'nique because her movie did not do well? Or are the two phenomena being discussed separately?
I do not generally go see movies until they come out on video/ppv, and I do not follow the $ figures for opening weekends, etc.
I do, however, have a sense that most people are more comfortable seeing comedic portrayals of large women rather than romantic/sexual portrayals of large women. That is too bad, in that anything that limits our opportunity to see a range of healthy, adult love and sexuality is too bad.
Having said that, though, I am always a little uncomfortable when people hold up obese celebrities as "proof" that one can be obese and healthy over the long term. If one has lots of money and can afford to treat the health consequences that invariably follow long-term obesity--then, yes, maybe that's OK.
But for the rest of us, we are playing a dangerous game if we assume that proper measures of weight (that take into account, for example, height, body fat index, etc) are irrelevant. That attitude will end up killing us.
Not to mention what it is already doing to our children. Visit any US school and you will see a major health crisis in the making. |
Renata
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Serenasailor,
Black women are more likely to diet than anyone else. White women eat OUT and eat whatever they want. Black women pick at a little piece of nothing twice a day. Most women in my family are hypoglycemic. My sister is 120 pounds even though she only eats 3 or 4 meals a week (she's not hypoglycemic). My mother isn't very slim, but eats less than my 19 month old, and she usually feels sick if she eats more than a few bites. Yesterday we went to Picadilly and she had a chicken wing and a mashed potatoes and that was all she had the entire day. I'm struggling to lose weight, but I'm not going to kill myself doing it. I exercise and eat only healthy foods (no dairy, no sugar, no salt, few carbs, no pork or beef) and the weight won't go anywhere. No doctor will allow me to get a stomach stapling because they don't consider me obese and because my blood sugar and blood pressure is often too low for any non-urgent surgery (or so they say). They often ALLOW these surgeries for white women, but don't often allow them for black women who are overweight. I don't know where you get the idea that black women don't diet.Black women diet more than they eat. |
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I love you still.
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Ummm...Renata...black women diet more than anyone else? Where did you get that from? There are published epidemiological studies that show that eating disorders are much more common among white women than among black women, that white women diet more than black women.
Obesity is reported in 73% of black women and 56% of white women. Diabetes (type II) is reported in 91 per 1000 black women versus 61 per 1000 white women. There are black women who diet, but there are waaaayyyy more who overeat... |
Renata
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There are studies about what white women do, because people CARE about what they do. Don't look at studies and reports, look around your own community and family to see how black women eat. And diabetes isn't necessarily a "fat" disease. There are diabetics in my family and NONE of them are overweight. My stepfather also had type II diabetes (when he was alive) and he could even be considered skinny. |
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Not everyone who has diabetes is clinically obese, but clinical obesity increases your chances of becoming a type II diabetic. IMO, many black women diet because they do not have healthy relationships with food. We either overeat ourselves to obesity, or we are so afraid of becoming like our obese sisters that we binge and purge or turn to quick fixes. The majority of us fit into the former category. |
Brownbeauty123
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Shemika,
Mo'Nique was being honest about eating an entire buffet. She said so in a Sister 2 Sister interview, as well as others, she makes no secret that she REALLY likes to eat. Why would anyone think she was joking? It shows.
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No one can eat an entire buffet. We know she is joking because that's what Mo'Nique does for a living...tell jokes...
I think people who claim they are concerned about a fat person's health, really couldn't care less.
If it was true concern, why not help someone out who is struggling with their weight? Why not invite a friend to go walking, instead of to mall to buy some bling or to a club or to a restaurant?
Face it, folks are plain scared of fat. It's much easier to degrade and mock and feel perfectly justified in criticizing a person who is unable or unwilling to control their weight then to offer help.
True, obesity and weight-related diseases are serious matters in the black community. I know. I wrote a book called HUNGRY FOR MORE about what happens when a person is so desparate to lose weight after years of battling the scales, they take foolish risks. Some people end up dying to be thin.
We as African Americans don't need any more victims or any more haters.
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I was a friend of Mo'Nique, I would encourage her to go to the gym or rollerblading with me. I wouldn't dare overstep my boundaries and ask that of a total stranger.
I encourage healthy living for all of my friends, regardless of their size. A size 2 isn't automatically healthier than a size 14. I am a size 8 and am fit as ever, though I will never be a size 2.
African Americans don't need haters, true. But we need a rude awakening. We have to battle so much out there, why make things worse by adding drugs, smoking, overeating and sedentary lifestyles into the mix? |
Brownbeauty123
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Robynmarie,
Figuratively she didn't mean eat the entire buffet, but she explained that she eats a lot and is not ashamed of it. That when she goes to a buffet she will get as many servings allowed. |
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"I just don't think it does any good to bash someone without knowing what their situation is? It's so shallow."
LOL, girl, you ain't figured out that this is what a lot of people are about?! |
Abm
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Again. I am NO Mo'Nique fan.
But I think it's pretty ludicrous to try to make Mo'Nique, Nell Carter, Queen Latifah, etc. responsible for obesity amongst Black women. I mean, I DOUBT most fat Black women hardly give a dayam about those sistahs with respect to their own dietary and nutritional criteria. And if they do, they probably have some issues OTHER than those that pertain to their spacious dress sizes. |
Abm
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Foks.
The American Medical Association asserts that over 66% of ALL Americans would be classified as being over overweight. And about half of that percentage could be considered obese.
Being fat is NOT just a Black woman issue. It is an AMERICAN issue.
Now. I think Black women probably suffer the added issues of genetic predispositions, especially fatty diets (via our beloved Soul Food), and myriad unresolved emotional issues that compel many of them to see solace in food.
I do NOT believe this problem can be resolved simply via castigating fat foks. If anything, that'll likely make many of them emotionally retreat to your local smorgasbord. |
Chrishayden
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So I guess bascially what everybody is saying is that Monique is a bitch and a ho, just like those rappers you criticize say.
I mean that's what you are saying.
Rustang:
I am going to drop a couple of ounces--of hot lead right in your lard ass! |
Tonya
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Robynmarie,
"I think people who claim they are concerned about a fat person's health, really couldn't care less."
I agree. It appears that scientists inadvertently gave these morons an EXCUSE to hate fat people. All I can say after reading this thread is some black people deserve what they get. I'm starting to question whether the black race truly deserves to be saved. Sure we all should be valued the same way; but if one group has to be on top, why on earth not white people. Are we any better? Maybe our ENTIRE focus should be on the cradle, REGARDLESS OF COLOR-- and just fuck everybody else. We'll just have to pray that those who resemble some on this thread are not in charge of those cradles. God help the human race!
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Abm said:
But I think it's pretty ludicrous to try to make Mo'Nique, Nell Carter, Queen Latifah, etc. responsible for obesity amongst Black women. I mean, I DOUBT most fat Black women hardly give a dayam about those sistahs with respect to their own dietary and nutritional criteria. And if they do, they probably have some issues OTHER than those that pertain to their spacious dress sizes.
Are you referring to my posts? Nowhere did I BLAME Mo'Nique, Nell Carter or Queen Latifah for obesity in the black community. I blamed the mainstream media for promoting extremely overweight loud black women stereotype over the fitter black women (e.g., Gabrielle Unions, Angela Bassetts). Mainstream media does not do this with Asian women (e.g., Margaret Cho over Lucy Liu) or white women (e.g., Camryn Manheim over Charlize Theron or Catherine Zeta-Jones) nearly half as much as they do this with black women. |
Abm
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Chris: "Rustang: I am going to drop a couple of ounces--of hot lead right in your lard ass!"
You have any idea how gotdayam GAY that sounds? |
Abm
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Fortified,
I'm doubt I was referring specifically to you. Honestly, all the fatbashing here has in my mind sort of blended together into a boiling hot vat of lipid goo. |
Chrishayden
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Abm:
The Pledge of Allegiance sounds gay to you.
All them comic books--
Parents--take heed! |
Abm
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Chris Hayden's Pledge of Allegiance!!!
"I pledge allegiance, to the F&G, of the United Gaybar of America, and to the Buttbustin' for which it stands, one orgy, under some balls, with Sodomy and Fallatio for ALL!" |
Brownbeauty123
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I think people are reacting way to sensitive to the content in this forum. And are misinterpreting the meaning of what particular posters are stating.
What is so wrong about expressing that obesity is not healthy, and discussing ways to prevent it? Has anyone outright said, "I hate fat people"?? No.
It's perfectly fine to point out the dangers of anorexia and bulimia in society and that being too thin is sick--yet you do the reverse and explain why obesity is unhealthy and can cause a myriad of health problems are you're immediately labeled a 'fatbasher'?? What's up with that ?
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Abm
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Brownbeauty123,
Would you like Mo'Nique the entertainer if she and Gabrielle Union were the same size? |
Brownbeauty123
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No. And here are reasons why:
1) She is a one trick pony. Her jokes are always centered around 'skinny bitches are evil' & 'i'm a big girl and i love to eat'.
2) Naturally, she's not that funny, if at all.
3) She's a limited actress.
Her career thrives on her large size, and without the extra weight she will lose her target audience. She does not have the talent capability to make the transition from a "heavy" comedian to a "small sized" comedian. She'd become the Black 'Carnie Wilson'.
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Chrishayden
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Brownbeauty:
You don't know nothing about Monique.
She is not a one trick pony. She has a number of hilarious routines.
(Falling to knees, sobbing) Please, God! Why can't all the black sisters love one another? |
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I have no problem with Mo'Nique or other "big" women who happen to be in the entertainment business. However, Mo'Nique and other women who are her size are not just "overweight", "chubby", or "thick"--but obese. Being obese is not healthy. As far as they go, I don't know how they feel--if they "like" who they are or not. Mo'Nique seems to be rather confident. In general, though, I feel obesity is a reflection of an emotional, physical or spiritual imbalance. In some cases it is all of the above. And I think if obese women were to have their choice they'd prefer to be at a healthier weight.
On a side note, there are many situations/circumstances that compromise a woman's health and/or her ability to properly nourish herself. So--I'm not "bashin'" or "hatin'" on "big" girls, I just think being at a healthier weight makes life more enjoyable-- in many, many ways.
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Brownbeauty123
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Chrishayden--
As a Black woman I do not have to like any & every entertainer of color just because they're Black, too.
Every reason I gave for not liking her was constructive, and had absolutely nothing to do with her looks but her lack of talent ability.
I've seen early performances of hers before, and rarely found anything she said that funny or amusing. It's always centered around her weight. Which gets rather boring.
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Chrishayden
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Did you see her in the Queens of Comedy? Obviously not. She had several hilarious routines that had nothing to do with her weight.
Really I think that you women need to get together and accept your sisters even if they don't look like Twiggy. |
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Renata:
"I'm struggling to lose weight."
Moonsigns:
Considering your diet (as well as the female members of your family), it's obvious that your hormones aren't functioning properly. Have you ever considering seeing an endocrinologist? In the meantime, if you get a chance, check out this website: www.schwarzbeinprinciple.com
She is an incredible endocrinologist who resides in California. She has written several books that are extremely informative! Your weight loss answer IS out there--best wishes!
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Brownbeauty123
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Chrishayden--
Would you please stop unfairly criticizing people for not sharing the same opinion as you? Why are you instilling such guilt towards me for not liking ONE black woman out of DOZENS in the entertainment industry? As if I'm obligated to like every single entertainer because they are Black. I think SHE SUCKS.
I didn't watch Queens of Comedy because she is not funny to me, and does not generate a lot of interest for me to care what she's appearing in. I hated her past stand-ups, I loathed the sitcom the Parkers, and the trailor for her movie is yet again centered around her WEIGHT. I don't like her and it has nothing to do with her being Black or fat. She is NOT FUNNY TO ME. Get it?
You act like she found the cure to baldness or cancer--she's just a freakin' entertainer for godsakes.
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Chrishayden
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Brownbeauty123:
We're praying for you... |
Brownbeauty123
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Likewise.
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Chris, try not to get too excited.Remember your blood pressure.You know that's why your doctor told you to stick with The Incredible Hulk comics to satisfy your liking for buff men of color. |
Shemika
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Well, I see nothing wrong with enjoying good food; I love to eat good food myself. I’ve never been one to gain all that much weight, although I can’t eat like a horse as much as I use to. Starving yourself just lowers your metabolism and that’s why so many people who try to lose by hardly eating end up gaining a lot of weight. Not eating signals the brain that their body is going into some kind of hibernation mode or something, which is what lowers their metabolism. At least that’s what I heard. And I think that’s true to an extent. I believe you just have to find out which foods make you gain weight and which don’t, like in that commercial.
Amd I like fat people. Some of the least shallow and most fun to be around people I’ve ever met are fat. And big women remind me of the old fashion big mama types that love to cook and are great mothers and caretakers, such women have been a great asset to the black community and should make up proud.
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Shemika, I strongly agree with your first paragraph. Starving yourself is just as detrimental to your health as compulsively overeating. When you starve yourself, your body will go into fasting mode and hold onto ALL of the calories (fat or otherwise) it obtains when you finally eat.
The key is to kick start your metabolism by eating small meals frequently. I consume 1500-1700 calories per day (depending on how hard I work out). My eating is broken up into 6 meals: three major meals and three small snacks. All meals consist mainly of protein, and little or no refined sugars.
I make for damn sure that all of my meals are healthy and more importantly, enjoyable.
For example, I love pancakes with syrup, so I find a low fat, low refined sugar way of making pancakes with syrup: oatmeal, egg whites, skim milk, baking powder, cinnamon, 1 tbsp of unsweetened applesauce (protein powder, optional)--mix, cook and serve with maple syrup sweetened with fruit juice & sucralose.
It's not just the refined sugars and trans fats in fast food that are doing damage, it's also the preservatives and other agents in the foods that are having detrimental effects. |
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What you describe sounds like the "three-hour diet" (I hate the word "diet). Six meals during the day, three hours apart. I learned about it from Jorge Cruz, the exercise guru who believes the best way to lose weight and keep it off is to boost the metabolism.
The lack of physical activity is also a culprit which adds to weight gain.
Back in the day we were cleaning houses (ours and other people's) walking, riding bikes, gardening, pushing a lawnmower, working in factories...
These days the most working out a lot folks get is sitting in front of the computer typing away or in front of the TV channel surfing or cussing the next driver out driving home from work!
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Fortified
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^^^^^Yup, except it's not a diet, it's lifestyle. I will keep it up because it is simple (I don't make pancakes every day, that's for sure!), tasty, healthy and fits with my busy schedule. I schedule in a gym visit five times per week, weights and/or cardio, and it's mandatory for me because Lord knows how much time I spend in front of a computer!!!! LOL! |
Abm
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I agree with everything you said in your "Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 03:04 pm:" post...times TEN. I've NEVER gotten the appeal of Mo'Nique. I just think one can state her case against Mo'Nique without going the I can't STAND that fat b*tch route.
Btw: I think Wanda Sykes - who is NOT fat - is funnier than all the fat comediennes COMBINED. |
Abm
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Girls are funny.
Yawl just can't help getting all into each other beeswax.
You think most guys give a hotdayam how dangerously fat a man gets?
Shyt.
Hey. If John Candy, Chris Farley, Chris Penn, Big Pun, etc. want to eat until their hearts explode, fuhkin'...let'em! |
Nels
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"Why do so many people hate Mo'Nique?"
Because the woman's a Goddamn dog! She might not be a member of the FBI (i.e., Fat, Black & Ignorant), but she's sure close to it. |
Nels
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Perhaps Mo'Nique needs Mo'Nothin'. |
Stephgirl
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No, I don't hate Monique but I think the weight thing is a serious issue within the black community. A lot of sistas are dying from complications from being oversized.
Another thing, Serena is right on the money about Mo Nique. She is perpetuating a long-standing stereotype of black women being overweight, bossy, and mammylike. I can say the same about Halle Berry. Though both women are gifted, but I hate the way Hollywierd is exploiting those women. Halle is depicted as a loose woman for the saliviating desires of white men, while MoNique as bossy and loud. These stereotypes are dated. It's time for Hollywierd to join the 21st century, not the 19th.
Stephanie |
Chrishayden
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You got to die from something, dammit! Why not die from all the men wanting your big fat fine ass!
I bet if Mo'nique and any other woman on this list is in a room Mo'nique is going to get hit on first!
That's why y'all hatin' on her! |
Jackie
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Mzuri says "Whenever I see these obese ppl on TV talking about how they just gained all these HUNDREDS of pounds, I can't imagine their stupidity. I've been fortunate to never really have a weight problem, but if I ever got to the point where my clothes don't fit - I'd go on a diet right then - not after I gained a hundred pounds. Then they are all in such a hurry to lose the weight when it took them years to gain it, but they want to go on a weight loss diet for a couple of weeks and be a size zero again. Or they have to get that stomach staple surgery so they'll stop over-eating. That's nonsense!!!
And fat ppl stink because they don't bathe properly. Why? Because they can't even fit in the bath tub properly and they can't even reach the cracks of their ass. But mostly the reason that I don't like fat ppl is because they lack self-discipline"
This is probably one of the most assinine, ignorant and mean spirited statements on this thread...so much for promoting positivity, unity, and love and roses. How disgusting! How hypocritical! How shallow. LOL ! But should I be surprised... |
Mzuri
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Jackie - Of all the comments on this thread, mine are the absolute worst? And who are you to make that determination?
My comments are the TRUTH. The TRUTH hurts doesn't it? Fat ppl can't reach the cracks of their asses:
Special Bath Products For Fat People
And besides all of that - GLUTTONY is a SIN!!! Are you going to argue that GLUTTONY is a SIN?
All you fat bitches are going to burn in hell! You bunch of fat, lazy, sloppy stank sinners. Stop stuffin your faces, fat bitches. LOL!!! |
Jackie
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I guess age is just a number huh Mzuri ? |
Caprical
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Mzuri
did God tell you that nastiness and being judgemental was a sin??????? Did he tell you that being hateful and spiteful toward your fellow brother or sister was a sin?????
something i cannot stand are hipocrites who want to quote theBible in order to justify their ugly preversions. |
Mzuri
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Sistas - Get that pound cake out of your faces and try to come up with an original thought. Have you nothing original to add to this discussion?
It's not my fault that I'm slim and trim so stop HATIN!!! LOL!!!  |
Renata
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I don't care what ANYONE says, I like Mo'Nique. I just LOVE people who love themselves and think highly of themselves, I don't care what they look like or what other people think they should look like. Also, people will treat/mistreat you based on what YOU think of yourself. I don't think Brad Pitt is all that, but he thinks he looks good so people take his word for it.
Mo'Nique is going to take her fat ass to the mirror, know she looks good (even if only to herself), get paid, and find something else to do with her time other than getting on the internet critiquing other people's looks. So as far as I'm concerned, she's got it going on. |
Brownbeauty123
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Mzuri--
LMAO!!
Brad Pitt was really hot back in the movie Thelma and Louise--now not so much. He's very whitebread.
And Tom Cruise is just meh. With his short self.
Now Wentworth Miller is a fine white man, who has just enough African blood to make him fine as hell. I'd make him my little sex slave. |
Fortified
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Mzuri, there is a difference between being critical and being WRONG!!!! |
Mzuri
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So you're WRONG. You made a mistake. Eveybody does it. Stop trippin, get over it and move on!!! |
Libralind2
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Chris writes: In fact, let me come out now and admit I hate skinny women. They are treacherous, selfish, petty, angry at the world and hate all other people. They love things not people.
If it were up to me I would wipe them all from the face of the earth--or stuff them full of food until they looked human instead of like storks or human walking sticks.
LiLi writes: dont play like that mah brother. Us skinny women need love too. |
Libralind2
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Mzuri writes:CH - You are correct, I do have a thing about fat ppl. I can't stand to watch them eat in restaurants and I especially can't stand the way they behave around food. I knew a fat someone who acted like if he missed a single meal he would fall out. Hello - all that fat will sustain you!!! Duh!!!
LiLi says: WHEW I say, if you need two chairs to sit on at the buffet resturant, your probably not going to die if you miss a meal. Make sure you do this under the supervision of a doctor. GASP |
Libralind2
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Mzuri writes: Whenever I see these obese ppl on TV talking about how they just gained all these HUNDREDS of pounds, I can't imagine their stupidity. I've been fortunate to never really have a weight problem, but if I ever got to the point where my clothes don't fit - I'd go on a diet right then - not after I gained a hundred pounds. Then they are all in such a hurry to lose the weight when it took them years to gain it, but they want to go on a weight loss diet for a couple of weeks and be a size zero again. Or they have to get that stomach staple surgery so they'll stop over-eating. That's nonsense!!!
LiLi says: You made me think of Star Jones. Frankly, I think she needs her weight back as she looks sick to me. |
Libralind2
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ChrisHayden writes: (Falling to knees, sobbing) Please, God! Why can't all the black sisters love one another?
He also writes: Rustang:
I am going to drop a couple of ounces--of hot lead right in your lard ass!
LiLi says: Umm Chris..? Im going to drive by and pick you, Rustang, ABM up and we are going to go to a buffet, sit on two chairs while we eat and Im going to find out why you three cant get along while you saying Black Women cant love one another |
Libralind2
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I cant believe folks jumped on Mzuri for her comments about SOME FAT people who DONT or CANT wash they azz. I am not mean spirited at all but I have been around some VERY big people who were so funky I almost threw up and I cant believe..like I stated that ya'll would say she is being mean about something that is TRUE. She didnt say ALL big people are that way but said IF THEY STINK and gave reasons why. I think SOME folks come here to read what folks write so they can have the ONE UP on the writer. Good grief..
LiLi not skuird of none a ya'll..::running behind Serenasailor:::and if he pushes me out the way..TROY humph |
Libralind2
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Brownbeauty writes: Mzuri--
LMAO!!
Brad Pitt was really hot back in the movie Thelma and Louise--now not so much. He's very whitebread.
LiLi says: I dont remember him in this..off to rent movie..LOL |
Rustang
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LiLi, I am confidemt that Abm and I could be around each other on a regular basis, agree on some things, agree to disagree on others and never have so much as an exchange of harsh words.We would get along just fine.Chris, on the other hand, would end up taking a beating on a regular basis because he is a detestable little toad of a man.I've known a lot of people in my life.Some that were good, honest people that worked like hell their entire lives and never caught a break, no matter how small.They struggled hard every day until their struggle extracted a little too much from them and they died.Then we have Chris.Obviously born under much more fortunate circumstance than most of us, rubbing elbows with the ivory tower crowd from day one.Good home environment, good education,etc..What most of us have to fight like hell to try to get a piece of, he had handed to him on a silver platter.I have never seen a black man do so little with so much.He is so afraid that people won't think that he's a 'Real Nigga'that he encourages the less fortunate to bullishly stick to 'ghetto' behaviors that he himself does not practise, making him an enemy of his own people.And here he stands, a man in his fifties still tripping over something that some idiot said to him in grammer school about how he was trying to be white.He has been completely conquered by his own childish nightmares and is terrified that someday, someone will peep his hole card and see him for what he truly is.A frightened little boy stuck in an adult's body.I have nothing for such a man other than scorn and pity. |
Brownbeauty123
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Post Number: 194
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Star Jones had a much prettier face with the weight.
Now her eyes look like Nicole Richie |
Moonsigns
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Brownbeauty:
"Star Jones had a much prettier face with the weight."
Moonsigns:
I don't think so. Before, her facial features were literally swallowed by all the fat on her face, especially her cheeks. Now, it's easier to tell what she actually looks like. What she needs now is a very good, very skilled plastic surgeon who can cut off all that excess skin (her neck, arms, thighs and stomach). I think that will help her looks a lot!
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