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Mzuri
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Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 11:28 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)



In this artist's rendering, Edmund Duhaney, left, Joya Williams, center, Ibrahim Dimson make their initial court appearance, Thursday, July 6, 2006, in Atlanta. All three face charges of stealing confidential information, including a sample of a new drink, from The Coca-Cola Co. and trying to sell it to PepsiCo Inc. Williams was ordered released on bond Thursday. Her co-defendants were detained pending a preliminary hearing for all three on Tuesday. (AP Photo/Richard Miller)



Coke Re-Evaluates Trade Secret Protection
Jul 7th - 10:25pm

By HARRY R. WEBER AP Business Writer

ATLANTA (AP) - It wasn't locked up in a bank vault like the recipe for its flagship soda brand. Instead, prosecutors say a new product sample at the heart of a corporate espionage case that erupted this week at The Coca-Cola Co. was accessible to a secretary.

The episode has made Coke re-evaluate its safeguards for protecting trade secrets, and other corporations ask whether they should do the same _ even as the secretary's lawyer wonders what all the fuss is about.


"It's something that's made everyone I know their hair stand on end," said corporate security consultant Richard Heffernan, who works for trade group ASIS International.


Experts say the important thing is to have tough employee screening and to catalog what secrets you don't want others to know.


"One of the things that gets less importance than it really should get is we're really careful when we hire a CFO that is going to handle money or a director of research, but I think we need to pay more attention to the support people that have access to this information," Heffernan said.


Stealing trade secrets is not uncommon in a competitive corporate culture where heavy premiums are placed on bringing an innovative new product or device or technology to the market first.


In New Jersey, an electronics company executive was charged last year with hacking into the computer system of a rival firm to steal its customer and supplier lists so he could undercut the competitor's prices.


In 2004, a man was arrested in Florida after being accused of selling a stolen set of Pratt & Whitney blueprints for precision tools needed to repair a commercial jet engine to a Belgian firm. And two Michigan men were charged in 2003 with trying to steal and sell company secrets from auto-parts maker Visteon Corp.


In the Coke espionage case, Joya Williams is accused of stealing confidential documents and a sample of a new Coke product from the Atlanta-based beverage giant while working as an administrative assistant to the company's global brand director. Two men, Ibrahim Dimson and Edmund Duhaney, are charged along with her with trying to sell the items to PepsiCo Inc. (Continued)

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Chrishayden
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Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 11:55 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The only thing I'm sorry about is that they didn't get away with it.

About time some brothers and sisters tried to do more than smack an old lady in the head and try to take her food stamps.

And for all of you who are going to be on here moaning about how Coke won't promote no more blacks if you was going to be there working you would be there now.

I don't remember anybody here posting when George Bush stole them two elections.
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Mzuri
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Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 12:18 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If they had a half a brain they should have known that Pepsi wasn't going to buy Coke's trade secrets. Perhaps they should have solicited a lesser known brand - such as RC Cola or somebody overseas. Anyway, ever since I first heard this news I suspected it was Black ppl, but I was kind of hoping that wasn't the case. Oh well. I guess it's another illustration of why crime doesn't pay. You lose your job AND you get to go to jail free. It's no wonder that white ppl think we're all a bunch of nimrods.
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Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 12:37 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mzuri: "...ever since I first heard this news I suspected it was Black ppl, but I was kind of hoping that wasn't the case. Oh well. I guess it's another illustration of why crime doesn't pay. You lose your job AND you get to go to jail free. It's no wonder that white ppl think we're all a bunch of nimrods."

Why does this have to be reason for you to bash BLACK people?

The vast majority of all instances of industrial espionage have White perpetrators. And many of them are caught. Yet nobody's views such as being proof of some inherent or sociological weakness of all White people.
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Cynique
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Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 12:42 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If black folks would learn how to be better corporate crooks they'd move up in the world of high finance.
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Abm
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Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 01:01 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cynique,

Perhaps...

But I think it's ENTIRELY possible that if the alleged culprits were WHITE, PepsiCo. might have taken what they had, paid them off and mutually agreed to keep the entire thing on the QT.

Because, really, in corporate America that kinda shyt goes down between WHITE foks EVERYDAY.


And come on now, ALREADY. Do we all HONESTLY believe in all these DECADES that trade secrets have NOT been swiped and exchanged between PepsiCo and Coca Cola???
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A_womon
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Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 01:24 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Why did it have to be black people...

why do black people always ask this question? This question assumes that the entire race must answer for the crimes of a few. Perhaps if WE would discontinue this type of bemoaning the plight of our race as if it could be determined or defined by the crimes of a few, maybe others would too.
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Mzuri
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Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 01:34 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yes, there's industrial espionage committed by whites and others, but stuffing it into your purse? How dumb can you be. That shit wasn't even half-assed sophisticated. What happened to the pen-sized spy camera where you take pix of the documents and a syringe or dropper and vial to take a small sample of the secret formula??? If you want to be a GD spy, then get it right.

And conspiring with ghetto-Beavis and Butthead - she couldn't find somebody with some street smarts. She should have gone to the Russian Embassy and recruited a real spy that was smarter than those two. Or maybe the Russians could have given her some pointers.

It all seems like such a waste because the woman had a pretty good job - for a dumb bitch. Not sure of her salary but as an executive administrative assistant it had to be around $50Ks at a minimum. As if her stupid ass is ever going to be able to get another decent job again!

As to her replacement, do you think her boss is going to hire another Black woman to replace her? Do you think that he feels he can trust Black ppl again? BS like this hurts Black ppl!!! To me, as a Black person, it's all just embarrassing. And again, it's no wonder that white ppl think we're all a bunch of uneducated bozos.
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Abm
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Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 01:43 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mzuri,

Any White people who uses some shyt like this to make swiping commentary about ALL Black are themselves some gotdayam "uneducated bozos". And I could hardly give a dayam what THEY think, mainly because it does not matter.
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Mzuri
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Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 01:47 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It does so matter what the white man thinks since we've got to go to the white man for a J-O-B!!!
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Cynique
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Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 02:11 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I can't figure out why Pepsi and Coke would be stealing from each other. Do they want their products to taste exactly the same? Neither has adjusted their formulas for years and there's no reason to think they'd start now. What trade secrets were these losers offering to Pepsi? How to go from number 1 to number 2? This is why I say that until they get more sophisticated, black folks need to stop trying to wheel and deal in the domain of corporate America.
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Mzuri
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Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 02:48 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

From what I understand as soon as the three musketeers contacted PepsiCo (they telefaxed over some stolen documents), Pepsi alerted Coca-Cola and Coke contacted the FBI. There's supposedly some professional code of ethics regarding the protection of trade secrets, even your competitor's. The Coke product is something brand new. I think they're still working on it.
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Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 11:35 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mzuri,

Any manifestation of "the man" that is foolish enuff think and act upon the principal that ALL Black foks will do what those 3 jokers did probably don't have or retain many Black employees to begin with.


Cynique,

Information is power. And in the beverage industry where the competition is stiff and the margins can be razor thin, any sliver of info about what your biggest competitor is doing can be worth a fortune.

I say again, if the info had been present in a certain way or by a certain kind of entity, PepsiCo might have responded very DIFFERENTLY.

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