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Rustang
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Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 12:39 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I must confess that, up until yesterday, I felt like black women might be making a little too much out of the problem of black men chasing after white women.I was in a shopping mall with my wife yesterday and we stopped off in the food court for an ice cream, and while we were sitting there chilling and talking, I saw this young brother with the most hideous creature I have ever had the misfortune of being exposed to.If she had held one end of her belt over her head the other end would still be dragging the ground, and her head was disproportionately large.Her face was actually concave, with her cheeks sticking out further than her nose and one eye was larger than the other and about an inch lower on her face.Horrible acne.The works.The guy with her was just a regular looking black guy.Reasonably well dressed, nothing unusual about his appearance, probably moderately athletic.And just happy as hell to be hugging up to his troll of a white girl.I wanted to say something like 'damn, bro.I think you can beat this right here.', but to each his own I guess.You ladies might be right about your average young black man after all. :-)
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Ntfs_encryption
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Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 03:27 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hmmmmmmm.....Well, if she had been black, would that be ok? Is it the fact that a basic looking black man was with an ugly woman or was it the fact that the woman was white? And why do you care? Just curious............
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Tonya
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Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 05:33 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I know this brother (he's a family member but I'm embarrassed to admit how close of a relative he is) who is financially stable, educated, and foine as hell. Growing up he had any women he wanted. Though he was always color-struck he started out dating black women. And the entire time he spent within his race, the women were drop dead gorgeous. These women did what ever it took to get close to him too. They'd even try to buy my friendship (which I accepted for the right fee). He would only date extremely beautiful women though; I mean the kind of beauty you only see in airbrushed magazine photos; so most of the women who tried to get his attention were usually unsuccessful. Then he started dating white women. And, oh my god - if I'm lying I'm dying - he ended up marrying this wrinkled old broad, only she isn't old at all; I don't know what's wrong with her. She's overweight, she has bad skin - it's always red like she has rosacea or something - and even the skin on her body sags. On the one had I say to myself, it got to be love. But then on the other hand I wonder, "how did it happen though?” This is the same guy who wouldn't talk to a girl if she wasn't supermodel beautiful. They say they met at a party and immediately hit off. I can't imagine how though--of course asking would be rude. To top it off, he treats her like gold....he brings her flowers and candy and all kinds of goodies. But when he was dating black women, who all seemed very nice, he was a total womanizer; he rarely gave them anything...hardly gave them quality time. (I know this because they'd all come to me crying and asking for advice). Anyway, I just don't understand. I won't call it what I think it is because it makes too much sense. And shit doesn’t make sense like this everyday--I just avoid thinking the obvious, too spooky.
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Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 08:29 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Ugly" paired with "regular", regardless of color, is more the norm than the exception. While I've seen IR couples like this before and think they are more noticeable because of the color difference, I've also seen "regular" black men with black women who fit the same, if not similiar, "hideous" description that Rustang mentioned. From what I gather, it seems that people are more apt to accept a "regular" looking black man with an "hideous" black woman before they'll accept a "regular" looking black man with a "hideous" white woman. In my opinion, the encounters I've had with "hideous" black women and "hideous" white women who are with these "regular" looking cats is, these cows are, generally, all the same--shytty looking, behave as if they have no education, loud, somewhat aggressive, ill-mannered, and who really have no business being parents (because their brats are usually in tow).
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Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 08:31 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Also, I think that black men who are with these "hideous" women (black or white) are usually over-rated by other blacks--they usually aren't even good to average looking men--ususally just as unattactive.
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Brownbeauty123
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Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 09:15 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tonya, he dated just lightskin women?
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Cynique
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Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 10:34 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

There's just no accounting for taste. I recently saw a special about this woman who has no lower body. She is just a torso and she got around by using her arms to maneuver a skate board. She was also fat and wore glasses. And yes, she had a tall handsome husband. But as Cosmopolitan magazine reminds: never under estimate the power of oral sex. A good blow job can get take a nice girl a loooong way.
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Chrishayden
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Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 12:23 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cynique:

When I said that you jumped all over me.
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Mzuri
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Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 12:40 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

What Cynique said.

Rusty - Hello!!! Why didn't you take a picture? Take a picture next time, we want to see this hideous creature woman.

And is it possible that they were just friends? Maybe they were just hugging in a platonic way.
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Tonya
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Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 04:02 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Tonya, he dated just light skin women?"

Yep. Light and Bi-racial only.

There was this one dark-skinned girl who, to this day, was the prettiest black female I've ever seen (besides me of course lol). She was totally in love with him but he wouldn't even look her direction, wouldn't speak to her; he treated her like she was a pest. All of my other male family members, ALLL of his guy friends, and many of his teammates thought he was CRAZY; because this girl was really that gorgeous. Many of them tried to get with her thinking they'd capitalize off of his stupidity, but, no.… She wanted Mr. color-struck. Deep down I think he couldn't stand dark-skinned girls. I've never seen him even treat one of them cordially. SICK. (By the way, he himself is dark-skinned.)
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Doberman23
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Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 04:37 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

thats cause dark skinned woman stank like rat ass! i'm just kidding...calm down... calm down. anyways, i used to like it when i would see dudes with those nasty looking women of any race or color, i always assumed that it meant there was another available attractive woman left out there for me :-)
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Abm
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Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 04:42 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tonya,

Dude don't say much about the ol' family tree. Does he?

And what does it say about this "gorgeous" sistah that she'd bear unrequitted desire for such, as you describe, an unworthy man?
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Tonya
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Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 04:56 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

When did I say he is an unworthy man, ABM?? Sick, maybe, but did I imply unworthy? No. Because even though I'm ashamed of him, I still love him dearly. His actions can be described as many things, yes, but you won't see me writting them. And you’re right; that ol' RACIAL family tree is something else. It's keeps going and going and going...
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Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 05:05 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tonya,

While dwaddling in minutae, you avoided answer my question.

What does it say about this "gorgeous" Black woman that she'd fixate upon some Black man who allegedly thinks lesser of Black women?
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Tonya
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Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 05:38 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I don't know how she thinks; I only know how she looks, sorry. *tehee*
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Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 05:56 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm guessing though, ABM, that she was thinking what all the other (high yellow) women that was chasing him were. He is a financially stable, educated, athletic and foine as hell man.
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Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 06:00 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tonya: "I'm guessing though, ABM, that she was thinking what all the other (high yellow) women that was chasing him were. He is a financially stable, educated, athletic and foine as hell man..."


...who wants NOTHING do with Black women.
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Tonya
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Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 06:06 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

...Who wanted nothing to do with black women that didn't look a certain way. Most weren't white looking enough. And when they were, they didn't look like the white looking girls in the magazines.
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Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 06:52 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Rustang maybe this freak you're describing can suck golfballs through a garden hose,hence this 'average' black man's attraction to her.
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Rustang
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Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 10:09 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

To Nfs_encryption, I have never in my life seen anyone that looked this horrible, white or black.The part that struck me as odd was that this brother would take on the additional set of 'complications' that accompany IR dating here in texas over Jabba's big sister.His family has got to be ragging him out every time he brings her around.Her family, after the intitial relief of having any male express an interest in her,would also get around to having a problem with this relationship.
To the rest, nobody is that much better in the sack.No matter how good she might be at this or that, there are many others equally good if not better, and would have to be far more presentable in public.:-)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 10:44 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Rustang, you CRACK ME UP!
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Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 10:46 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"...the most hideous creature I have ever had the misfortune of being exposed to..."

"...Jabba's big sister..."

"...the initial relief of having any male express an interest in her..."

ROTFLMAO
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Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 07:39 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yo Rustang, why would you worry about it? Did you want to bone him yourself or something? yes BW are making too big a deal out of BM/WW and everyone obsessed with it needs to get over it and get a life.

I'm married to a BW by the way so don't go there with me. And in case you're wondering Tonya, My bitter, angry, color-struck, whiny victim, she is dark skinned.
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Tonya
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Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 10:50 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Poor thing.
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Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 04:43 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Rustang, if is family is anything like I suspect they will probably kiss the ground he walks on.This young man probably comes from a family of self-hating BW'S.

Because, as I believe self-hating BM come from self-hating Black mothers. His mother right now is probably so thankful that her son is going to bring her home some "pretty" grandbabies.

And when I say pretty I don't mean attractive. I mean how Colorstruck black ppl define pretty. Light Eyes, Light skin, and "Good" hair. It is a shame that these black men care nothing about their ancestry.
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Posted on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 03:16 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Serenasailor --

"It is a shame that these black men care nothing about their ancestry."

Their ancestry doesn't own them, so where's the logic? If black society as a whole would stop denigrating itself because of evident phenotypes, then what would be its next greatest challenge beyond Colorism? Hmmmm.
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Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 03:46 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"But as Cosmopolitan magazine reminds: never under estimate the power of oral sex. A good blow job can get take a nice girl a loooong way."

Uhhhhhh....this is very, very true.
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”To Nfs_encryption, I have never in my life seen anyone that looked this horrible, white or black.The part that struck me as odd was that this brother would take on the additional set of 'complications' that accompany IR dating here in texas over Jabba's big sister.His family has got to be ragging him out every time he brings her around.Her family, after the intitial……………….”

Well, it’s hard to say what is driving this brother. Unlike most people, I generally don’t judge people by their mates. They may not be for me, but who elected me “mate commissioner” to decide who someone should or should not be with based on looks and no other apparent criteria? But to be realistic, I guess it is a normal reaction for people to make judgments about other peoples mates. If a guy is very handsome and has a marginal or homely looking woman, people will question him as to why he is with her. And if the woman is drop dead gorgeous with a basic or less than basic looking guy, people seem to come unglued at the seams. Why? Why must a person come under scrutiny or criticism because they made the decision to be with someone other people may feel are ugly or unworthy based on their physical looks?

And to be honest, I have been guilty of this. I recall standing in line at a large grocery store one evening. At one point, I turned around and noticed this woman standing in back of me. I almost passed out in line from pure shock! I could not believe how ugly this woman was. OMG!!! She did not look human she was so ugly. I didn’t want to be rude, but I was almost compelled to turn around again to make sure she was real. She had very bad stringy long thinning blond hair, a bulbous nose, bucked-gapped teeth, an exaggerated large head, ass flatter than the side of a barn, no breast, no waist line, zero curves and had a shoulder-hip differential that was equal!! I just could not believe one person could be in possession of so many physical drawbacks. This woman had pegged the ugly-odometer needle!!

Now to put the final nails in the coffin. As I stood there shaking my head, closing and opening my eyes over and over again in revulsion, when I turned around for about the fourth time, a guy walked up to her, grabbed her hand, kissed her and said “Honey, is there any thing else we need to get?” I looked like a black Mr. Bill with a six foot red neon question mark over my head!!! I couldn’t believe it! Then three kids came over and asked her if they could get some ice cream. Evidently, regardless of how ugly and hideous I thought this woman was, she had a man (a basic normal looking guy) that loved her and was married with three children. What ever she did, this man was happy to be with her. Happy enough to marry her and have children together. My personal opinion of her was irrelevant.

That experience really changed my thinking. Regardless of what I may think, people have a right to be with whomever they choose to be with. No matter what their race, ethnicity, color, gender or physical appearance is. As I said before, they may not be someone I’m attracted to but another man has every right to be with her (or him). That is why I can’t get onboard with this cynical obsession by race baiters and chicken shit haters who ridicule and openly subject people (whom they know nothing about) to their venomous petty scorn because of the people they decide to date.

From what has been said, it does seem that this brother has issues with the skin color of the women he dates or considers dating. But how does that prejudice differ from a guy that is obsessed with women with big legs or a big butt (something I’m admittedly guilty of)? Like skin color, it’s a “particular physical characteristic” that attracts a man. Where should the line be drawn? And who is qualified to give the final approval?

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Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 06:05 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Nels nobody said that their ancestry owned them. What I am saying is that if these men knew there ancestry they would think twice about not wanting to "breed it out". If these men knew the strong BM and BW that they came from. How there ancestors were treated like animals but still were strong enough to bear child and not be exstinct.

If this young BM only knew what type of physically genetic women it took to give birth to him. Then he would think twice about wanting to breed it out.
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Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 12:51 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Serenasailor --

"What I am saying is that if these men knew there ancestry they would think twice about not wanting to "breed it out"."

Anyone is "free" to breed any way they please. There is no allegiance to any one race, ethnicity, etc., regardless of one's knowledge and understanding of their ancestry.

Only the "pro-black" factions seem to espouse "breeding in". No one else gives a damn.
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Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 09:36 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Interesting, Nels.

People like you are the reason we're (and NO ONE ELSE) looking LESS like ourselves with each passing generation. No allegiance to any race? You couldn't tell that by looking around. Just because WE don't have any allegiance to OURS doesn't mean everyone else feels the same about their own.
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Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 10:00 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Nels,

As of the most recent (2000) U.S Census, "96.5 percent of married non-Hispanic American whites are wed to another non-Hispanic WHITE."
(http://www.isteve.com/2003_Census_Interracial_Marriage_Gender_Gap.htm)

Apparently, the VAST majority of American White foks very much "gives a dayam" about remaining...WHITE.

To her credit, Kola has emphatically asserted this point.
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Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 10:13 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Other interesting points made in http://www.isteve.com/2003_Census_Interracial_Marriage_Gender_Gap.htm.


In 2000, African-American men had white wives 2.65 times more often than black women had white husbands. In other words, in 73 percent of black-white couples, the husband was black and wife was white.

This interracial gender gap is even sharper among black-white couples who cohabit without being married. Five times as many black men live with white women as white men live with black women.

…Currently, six percent of black husbands are in an interracial marriage, compared to only two percent of black wives. (Fourteen percent of black men who are cohabitating without marriage have a white woman living with them, while only three percent of cohabitating black women live with a white man.)
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I think Nels is what's called an assimilationist or white oriented black. Their thinking is through a white view but in a black body. Of course a white person can afford to say "race doesn't matter", "it doesn't matter who you marry", or "we're all be brown one day so don't worry about it." But whites are not only the majority numerically, they also hold considerable economic clout. Why? Because they definitly aren't stupid and understand that race, indeed, does matter. In fact, I dare you to find me one race or ethnicity which is "colorblind" and just "goes with the flow." You can't because every group has a natural loyalty and they care for their members well being. My point is Blacks in no way can afford to be colorblind or say such things as "Only the "pro-black" factions seem to espouse "breeding in". No one else gives a damn." In fact, every group is necessarily pro itself - that is self-evident and undeniable. I'm not saying you must go around chanting "kill whitey" but don't fool yourself with the prescribed "colorblind" rhetoric.

ABM says:
'As of the most recent (2000) U.S Census, "96.5 percent of married non-Hispanic American whites are wed to another non-Hispanic WHITE.'

"Apparently, the VAST majority of American White foks very much "gives a dayam" about remaining...WHITE."

Ngo says: Indeed!
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Ngo
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Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 11:31 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Here's one recent example of no one giving a damn.

"HONOLULU - A wealthy private school created exclusively for its indigenous people is asking a federal appeals court to allow it to continue its race-based admissions policy."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060620/ap_on_re_us/hawaiian_school
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Posted on Sunday, June 25, 2006 - 03:10 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ngo,

Hawaiian school admissions questioned By MARK NIESSE, Associated Press Writer
Tue Jun 20, 4:47 AM ET

HONOLULU - A wealthy private school created exclusively for its indigenous people is asking a federal appeals court to allow it to continue its race-based admissions policy.

Fifteen judges on the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals were scheduled to hear arguments Tuesday in San Francisco about whether the Kamehameha Schools can continue to limit enrollment to Native Hawaiians.

While the courts have generally ruled against favoritism in education based on race, the Kamehameha case is different. The school receives no federal money. And its policy was based on the will of a Hawaiian princess 10 years before the monarchy was overthrown…
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I think it’s very INTERESTING that the Feds would impose admission standards upon a school that receives NO federal money and is being administered in accordance with its founder’s wishes. I mean, basically the courts are requiring the school to invalidate its +100 year old charter, which is it basis for EXISTING.
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Posted on Sunday, June 25, 2006 - 07:47 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ABM:

Nels,

As of the most recent (2000) U.S Census, "96.5 percent of married non-Hispanic American whites are wed to another non-Hispanic WHITE."
(http://www.isteve.com/2003_Census_Interracial_Marriage_Gender_Gap.htm)

Apparently, the VAST majority of American White foks very much "gives a dayam" about remaining...WHITE.

To her credit, Kola has emphatically asserted this point.

KOLA: Thanks ABM. :-)

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Come on folks, just keep it coming! Vent your frustrations. It's good, it's healthy, and it should raise your blood pressure to an "acceptable" level. :-)
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Ngo --

Your "colorful" thought is well noted.

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