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Negrological
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Posted on Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 12:01 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

even though this isn't really funny considering the bush administration's stance on affirmative action, i couldn't help but laugh at the hypocritical nature of this story. harvard business school should be ashamed of themselves for this nonsense.

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http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=513563

Bush’s Personal Aide To Enroll at Business School

Gottesman, college dropout and former beau to Bush daughter, to begin in the fall

Published On 5/22/2006 2:12:14 AM

By PARAS D. BHAYANI

Crimson Staff Writer

A 26-year-old college dropout who carries President Bush’s breath mints and makes him peanut butter-and-jelly sandwiches will follow in his boss’s footsteps this fall when he enrolls at Harvard Business School (HBS).

Though it is rare for HBS—or any other professional or graduate school—to admit a student who does not have an undergraduate degree, admissions officers made an exception for Blake Gottesman, who for four years has served as special assistant and personal aide to Bush.

Gottesman, a Texas native who attended Claremont-McKenna College in California for one year, has long had ties to the Bush family. He dated the president’s daughter, Jenna Bush, nearly ten years ago when he attended St. Andrew’s Episcopal School of Austin.

After completing his freshman year at Claremont in 1999, he left to join the Bush presidential campaign and later served as a junior aide to former White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card. In February 2002, he became the president’s personal assistant.

In his current role, Gottesman performs a wide range of duties, from dog-sitting the president’s Scottish terriers, Barney and Miss Beazley, to carrying the president’s speeches and giving him the “two-minute warning” before a speech begins.

Gottesman has declined all requests for comment on his business school admission, but White House staffers have described him as loyal, warm, and fun-loving.

“He is a friend and adviser to every employee of the White House, from career maintenance workers to cabinet secretaries,” Deputy Chief of Staff Joe Hagin told The Myrtle Beach Sun News. “He is consistently kind and warm and generous with his time and provides extraordinarily good advice.”

Gottesman has likened his role at the White House to that of Charlie Young on the NBC television program “The West Wing.” When asked about his similarity to Young in an interactive question-and-answer session on the White House’s Web site, Gottesman wrote, “Charlie seems to be smarter, funnier, and better-looking. But, from what I remember—our jobs are probably pretty similar.”

HBS spokesman James E. Aisner ’68 explained the decision to accept Gottesman, even though he is not a college graduate, by telling The Economist that “extraordinary circumstances will sometimes compel it to drop [its] rule” of only admitting students who hold bachelor's degrees.

He refused to comment specifically on Gottesman, citing Harvard’s policy of not commenting on the admission of any individual student.

Aisner also pointed out to The Economist that Harvard would surely admit applicants like Bill Gates and Michael Dell, both of whom are college dropouts.

But the often-snarky British weekly noted: “Needless to say, holding the president’s hand-sanitizer is a far cry from heading a Fortune 500 company.”



—Staff writer Paras D. Bhayani can be reached at pbhayani@fas.harvard.edu.

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Chrishayden
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Posted on Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 11:50 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It ain't WHAT you know

It's WHO you know

It's the American way
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Posted on Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 03:46 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is this not a form of affirmative action?
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Posted on Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 04:26 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It is not.

Affirmative Action is a measure taken to rectify past wrongs--when all those Conservatives rail against it they forget about all the qualified people who were refused positions only based on race--

But they are scum anyway.

This is nothing more than just cheating and throwing the rules out--

It's the American way.
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Posted on Sunday, June 04, 2006 - 10:30 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This is just a fairly exaggerated example of the kinds of shyt White guys pull at nearly EVERY business, government, school, charity, club, etc. in this country.

For example, the City of Chicago is currently being investigated by the Feds for hiring practices that included amongst MANY other offenses White politicians giving +$50,000 a year gigs to their unqualified TEENAGE sons.

It's shyt like this this that makes me wanna tell White foks who whine, b*tch and moan about Affirmative Action to go somewhere and dryfuhk themselves in the a$$ with a rancid porcupine.
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Mzuri
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Posted on Sunday, June 04, 2006 - 11:11 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So POTUS pulled some power strings and got his aide a spot at Harvard, what's the big deal? If you were the president's go-fer, wouldn't you expect some sort of special treatment. That assisting job might seem trivial, but it's probably very demanding and if he's done a good job, then he deserves some assistance. Bush is Harvard's most distinguished graduate (because of the office which he holds) and I don't see anything wrong with him helping someone out.

The young man still has to pay his own tuition and expenses. And he probably won't get any other special treatment once he's there. Matter of fact, he's probably going to catch a lot of grief.

ABM - Unfortunately, rancid porcupine would not work for that particular application :-)
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Posted on Sunday, June 04, 2006 - 12:56 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mzuri,

You're kidding...Right?
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Mzuri
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Posted on Sunday, June 04, 2006 - 01:19 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No. I'm a firm believe of favors and favoritism. If you're in the position to help a friend, why wouldn't you. Is there some law that says POTUS can't help somebody, he's not entitled to use his special powers, authority and connections? You've never received help or called in a favor? Because I have. There's nothing illegal or immoral here. It's a simple act of human kindness. Nothing more.
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Mzuri
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Posted on Sunday, June 04, 2006 - 01:23 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I do not condone the scenario you described above where people in power hired their unqualified kin to well-paying jobs. Most agencies have policies against nepotism and it's probably illegal.
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Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 05:24 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mzuri,

I don't have a problem with foks looking out for each other. But Bush & Co. are the very SAME people who will attempt to deny some young Black people - who DO have bachelors degrees - admittance into, say, the University of Michigan law school because they got lower LSAT scores than some White and Asian kids.

Where the hell are the Affirmative Action polemics NOW?
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Mzuri
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Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 05:31 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

He hired your girl Condi though. Ain't no other POTUS had a female HNIC ever!!! What else do you want??? I swear you Black foks are so damn hard to please!!! Impossible to please . . .
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Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 05:37 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mzuri,

Well dayam. Condi's a friggin' GENIUS (I think she graduated college at, like, 19 or something.). I mean, I think she did a shyty job as the head our National Security Council (see 911). But comparing Condi to Bush's ignant White houseboy is so NOT cool.
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Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 05:50 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Who's comparing??? I ain't compared shit.
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Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 05:52 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mzuri,

Then why the hell you mention Condi in the first place. She wasn't in ANYWAY relavant to this discussion. 'Cause, shyt, Condi's probably MORE qualified for her gig than Bush is for HIS.
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Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 06:06 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The reason I mentioned Condi is because BUSH is NOT a racist as you implied. Yes, she's brilliant, but he could have found a white person as equally intelligent as she.

Anyway, back to the original topic - there is nothing wrong with POTUS pulling some strings for a friend. Because we Black people have suffered injustice doesn't mean he can't help ONE person. You are making a mountain out of a molehill. For no reason!!!
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Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 07:25 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mzuri,

I didn't say or imply that Bush was a racist. That is just your feeble attempt to disqualify my opinions.

However, just because Bush has some Black employees does NOT disqualify him from being a racist. PLENTY of racists like a few Blacks they know (especially those who kiss White a$$e$) and despise the millions more they do not.

And I as I said before, I have no problem with someone pulling strings. But come on now. Dude did ONE year of undergrad...ONE friggin year...and gets admitted to the world's best graduate business school?

There's just no justification for that on ANY level...especially coming from foks who script and enforce laws that attempt to disqualify Affirmative Action via sophistic cries of reverse racism, quotas, etc.

This is just an example of the GROSS hypocrisy of those foks who currently occupy the White House.

And it's the very same kind of hypocrisy that had contributed to the calamitous Iraq War, FEMA Katrina fiasco, criminal outing of CIA operatives, fallacious Harriet Miers Supreme Court nomination, etc.
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Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 09:35 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

One year of undergrad PLUS four years working for POTUS. Bear in mind that any type of WhiteHouse internship or fellowship is PRICELESS. Working at the highest levels of federal govt, being a personal aide to POTUS, being privy to conversations and meetings, working with WH staff, real world OJT experience - four years worth - has immense value that money can't buy. And it impresses college admissions ppl. That coupled with POTUS requesting a special favor from his alma mater. I don't see the gross hypocrisy that you claim.

As to the war and all the rest, I don't agree with our soldiers being in Iraq. I don't like war and discord between nations. But our system of govt was f'd up before Mr. Bush came into office and it will be that way until we fix it. And I don't care much for the President, but I'd rather find fault elsewhere - and not question him for helping his former aide.
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Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 10:15 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mzuri,

You can dress this shyt anyway you wanna. Being a fuhking uneducated GOFER does NOT meet the standards for matriculation into Harvard Business School.

Hell. By YOUR standards, the mofo who does the the White House lawn should be conferred a civil engineering degree from MIT or something.

This HBS croynism is symbolic of the overall bvllshyt Bush & Co. has dealt this country the last +5 years.
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Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 10:34 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Okay. Well obviously the standard was met and obviously you're not in receive mode. You know good and well I wasn't referring to the landscaper, although it's highly likely that he already has a degree. If I have time later on today, I'm going to research the prerequisites of the WH gardener and post them here. Okay. But for right now, I have my morning routine to attend to - like having my breakfast. And so I'm not going to sit up here and continue to butt heads with you - go ahead on and stay your Black a$$ mad.
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Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 10:54 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mzuri,

Re-read the article Negrological posted. What within it REMOTELY suggests dude's got ANY worthy qualities...OTHER than being an prime time, Grade A asskisser?
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Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 10:55 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mzuri,

Why you so dayam sensitive about criticism of Bush, anyway? He helped get you a gig or into a school somewhere or something?
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Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 06:55 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is this not a form of affirmative action?

No this is called the Good Ole Boy System.
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Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 06:57 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This is just a fairly exaggerated example of the kinds of shyt White guys pull at nearly EVERY business, government, school, charity, club, etc. in this country.

For example, the City of Chicago is currently being investigated by the Feds for hiring practices that included amongst MANY other offenses White politicians giving +$50,000 a year gigs to their unqualified TEENAGE sons.

It's shyt like this this that makes me wanna tell White foks who whine, b*tch and moan about Affirmative Action to go somewhere and dryfuhk themselves in the a$$ with a rancid porcupine.

LOL!!
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Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 07:05 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Okay. Well obviously the standard was met and obviously you're not in receive mode.

There was no standard that was met. This dude got in because of who he knew. For instance, Anderson Cooper was on Larry King talking about how hard his life was and how he had to overcome so many obstacles. Meanwhile, this guys mother is freakin Gloria Vanderbuilt. I'm sure he was told many of Christmas's that his parents could not afford to get him something.

That is what makes me so mad about this country. Only the rich powerful and elite run it. The Kennedy's, Vanderbuilts, Rockefeller's, and let's not forget the Bush's. This country is ruled by Dynasty's. All the while prideing itself on being the "pinnacle of freedom". Where even the common man has a says in how this country is operated. Bullshyt!!!
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Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 05:46 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Why you so dayam sensitive about criticism of Bush, anyway? He helped get you a gig or into a school somewhere or something?

Now you're just being nasty. For no reason. To be honest, I'm not sensitive about this at all. It doesn't make me any difference one way or the other.
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Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 06:07 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This is an entry level job and it doesn't look like a govt gardener needs a degree, but this is not at the WH, it is at the Capitol. The WH gardener probably requires a security clearance, possibly requires more experience and education. This is the only gardening job announcement I was able to find online:

Agency: Architect Of The Capitol
Job Announcement Number:
BG 2006-223

VACANCY ANNOUNCEMENT
Agency Name: Architect of the Capitol

Vacancy Announcement Number: BG 2006-223

Apply Online: Click Here to
Apply to This Vacancy

Opening Date: 05/22/2006

Closing Date: 06/08/2006

Area of Consideration: Anyone may apply

Position Title, Series, Grade: Gardener, WG-5003-04

Promotion Potential: 04

Salary: $14.05 - $16.39 Hourly

Duty Location(s): Washington, DC

Work Schedule: Full Time

Time Limit: Permanent - No time limit

Contact Name: Aurelia Cox

Contact Phone: 202-226-5552

Contact Email: acox@aoc.gov

NOTES:

LOCATION: Architect of the Capitol, U.S. Botanic Gardens, Horticulture
Division, Conservatory Section

**A valid pesticide license in categories, 3A and 3C is desired. The
selected employee will be required to register with the Environment
Regulation Administration of the District of Columbia to apply pesticides
under the direction of a licensed pesticide applicator within 60 days
after appointment with the Architect of the Capitol.**

Must possess a valid motor vehicle operator's license.

THIS POSITION IS BEING FILLED THROUGH AN ON-LINE APPLICATION SYSTEM.

To apply, go to http://www.avuedigitalservices.com/aoc/applicant.html (Be
sure URL is typed in all lower case).

Application submitted by any form of mail delivery WILL NOT BE accepted.

DO NOT email, fax or deliver applications or forms for this vacancy. All
applications must be submitted, and forms attached, on-line through Avue
Digital Services.

ANY REQUIRED FORMS MUST BE ATTACHED AS TEXT OR IMAGE FILES TO YOUR JOB
APPLICATION; FORMS RECEIVED BY E-MAIL WILL NOT BE ACCEPTED.

If you are unable to apply online, you may contact the employing office
for alternate application procedures. Please call (202) 226-7000.

ANNOUNCEMENT CLOSES AT 11:59 PM ON THE CLOSING DATE.

This vacancy announcement may be used to fill additional vacancies in any
of the jurisdictions of the Architect of the Capitol.

DUTIES:

The incumbent is a Gardener in the U.S. Botanic Garden (USBG),
Horticulture Division, Conservatory Team, and provides assistance to the
higher level Gardeners in basic gardening tasks. This team is responsible
for maintaining the majority of the Botanic Garden's accessioned
collections. These included orchids, cacti and succulents, begonias,
tropicals and subtropicals, carnivorous plants, rare/endangered
species(CITES), plants of economic and therapeutic importance, and, other
plants collections as befit the mission of the Garden

SCREEN OUT FACTOR(S):

Ability to do the work of the position without more than normal
supervision.

JOB ELEMENTS:

Ability to use and maintain gardening tools and equipment.

Knowledge of materials common to the gardening trade.

MINIMUM FEDERAL QUALIFICATION REQUIREMENTS:

Applicants will be evaluated on their ability to perform the duties of the
position rather than length of experience. Eligibility will be determined
by the relevance, scope and quality of all experience and training,
regardless of where or how acquired. Applicants will be ranked and rated
based on their knowledge of the job elements identified in this
announcement.

"A valid pesticide license in categories, 3A and 3C is desired. The
selected employee will be required to register with the Environment
Regulation Administration of the District of Columbia to apply pesticides
under the direction of a licensed pesticide applicator within 60 days
after appointment with the Architect of the Capitol."

Must possess a valid motor vehicle operator's license.

OTHER SIGNIFICANT FACTS:

Position is covered by a collective bargaining agreement.

Applications submitted by any form of mail delivery will not be accepted.

The Office of the Architect of the Capitol is an Equal Opportunity
Employer. This Office prohibits discrimination on the basis of race,
religion, sex, color, age, national origin, or disability.

This agency provides reasonable accommodation to applicants with
disabilities. If you need a reasonable accommodation for any part of the
application and hiring process, please notify the agency. The decision on
granting reasonable accommodation will be on a case-by-case basis.

Moving expenses are not authorized.

BENEFITS: A variety of health insurance plans; retirement system with
investment options; paid holiday; paid sick and annual (vacation) leave;
life insurance; incentive systems; subsidized transportation; training and
development opportunities, etc.

Appointment is subject to suitability review by the U.S. Capitol Police.

Applicants must be U.S. citizens or must be authorized to work in the
United States.

Subject to the completion of a one-year trial period, unless a
trial/probationary period in the Federal Service has been completed.

The position requires that the incumbent must possess and maintain a valid
state driver's license.

BASIS OF RATING:

You will be rated based on your qualifications for this position as
evidenced by the education, experience and training you report relative to
this position which shows that you possess the knowledges, skills and
abilities required. Paid or unpaid experience will be considered.
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Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 06:20 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If we accept popular culture's understanding of Affirmative Action, Chris Hayden, this is indeed a case of affirmative action!

Affirmative action was never about righting past wrongs. I am, by the way, differentiating the actual policy from how black folk perceived federal initiatives.

At the federal level, at least, it was initially just informing blacks of opportunities at workplaces by posting employment opportunities in black neighborhoods, churches, local chpt of the urban league. And employers were suppose to hire folk based on competence . . . this didn't work and then timetables and quotas came up; the latter was implemented by Tricky Dicky Nixon . . .

In today's vernacular affirmative action is getting folk jobs and access to higher learning based on some kind of handout or a hook up. . . was this not a hook up?

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