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Serenasailor
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Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 06:18 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

White Out?
By Esther Iverem
SeeingBlack.com Editor

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Though the debate has raged, in some form or another, ever since Miss Anne first beckoned Willie from the fields with her fluttering fan, it landed at BET.com recently when some "brother" posted a message saying something like, If you want to know why Black men date White women, I offer three words: PEACE OF MIND. (Of course, a load of cyber pestilence rained down on his cyber head.)



"It's a cop out on the part of a Black man to blame Black women for his choices," says author Grace Cornish (click to purchase).
Since then, a man identifying himself as Black in a relationship with a Korean woman wrote in, "Black females have attitudes, it's always 'me, me, me!' Not all but majority. Asian/White females seem to do more for you and they don't have so much attitude and drama." His partner chimed in, "I'm a Korean/White female and I think the reason why Black guys are more into my race or mixed girls is [because] Black girls are always talking about, "he gotta have a car, money, and blah, blah, blah."

Finally, a Virginia high school student describing herself as "a young White lady," said that her Black boyfriend assured her that she "had given him a better relationship then any Black girl could."

Sounds like a lot of fan waving and hitsay dumped in the faces of Black women, the latest slap in a long series of slaps. (the de-throning of Vanessa Williams, Shaharizad Ali's ignorant book, comments by Wesley Snipes) We have been asked accede our queenly beauty and bodies, though desired, violated and politicized, to be lesser than that of others. We've been asked to bear children and see them sold, or abandoned by their fathers. We take on the world to defend our children and men, a small percentage of whom make it point to show, in return, only contempt.

I emphasize "a small percentage." I know perceptions can be skewed in large and small places like Minneapolis or Columbia, Md., and by high profile cases concentrated on by the mass media. But the fact is that we are still the national minority group most likely to marry within our group. We are the least meltable, despite several studies that indicate Black men are more likely to marry outside the race than Black women. A Japanese co-worker once told me that he and his wife were the only two Japanese people in their circle of friends married to another Japanese person. (So Miss "Korean/White," "blk" guys are not "more into" your race.)

But this increasing tendency of some Black men rankles some Black women. But, more importantly, the over-hyped trend serves as endless grist for the mill of television and radio talk shows, books, films, Internet chat rooms and message boards. Mass media profits big time from the notion and image of the supposedly angry, scorned Black woman standing in the shadows while her man hops to fence to be with Buffy. This notion of our bitter selves, which demeans us as a total people, is quite entertaining to America. In contrast, the anger of White women is never shown or exploited in quite the same way. Think about the scene in "Save the Last Dance" when Kerry Washington's character asks the Julia Stiles character why she has to date a Black man. Don't White women already have the world, she asks? Of course the White woman here is given the moral high ground. After all, it's only about love. Or is it?

We learn what to love, what is beautiful and what is sexy through the images of love presented to us. And, as I first wrote in a piece five years ago but which is still true, there are scarce images of Blacks together as lovers, and of Black women as the pretty love interest in films and television shows. When a Black woman is made the love interest, say in a film like "Monster's Ball," it is always twisted. In this film, her White lover was/is an open racist who, even though it unknown to her, participated in the execution of her husband. The story line, which renders Black men as hopeless, uses the legacy of racism in an unconvincing manner to belittle its impact, and historical and present-day consequences. Considering the nonstop media onslaught that trumpets "White is Beautiful," Black people are doing well to still appreciate and love each other.

There are other and related factors too, such as the incidence of more Blacks growing up in White majority communities where young Black males, as part of established media culture of desirability, are pursued by females of other races. But Black girls, relatively absent from that media culture of desirability—unless you count music video babes—are often frustrated in the dating game. I sometimes look with disbelief at friends and family who have only surrounded their children with White folks and then are dismayed that their sons bring home a White girl. Well, who did they expect to come home? Serena Williams?

Also, much of the anger of Black women (and Black men)—expressed on BET's message boards (some statements edited slightly for editorial clarity) stems from statements that lump all/"most" Black women into one attitude and way of being.

"Black men and women love the man and/or woman of your choice," says one post by a Black woman. "But don't tell me that you are doing it because I'm not good enough. To make this statement, you would have to get to know me as an individual."

Wayne Jackson says, "I just want to say to my sistas: don't ever question yourself as if some White/Asian/Hispanic woman has something you don't possess. A man of any race who gives that reply is not a true man, and he doesn't deserve the time it took you to even ask him the question."

TTaylor, a 35-year-old Black woman married to a Black man for 16 years, says, "It saddens me to hear Black men say they refuse to date Black women. To dismiss us is to dismiss yourself. For you to write off an entire race of women is truly asinine. If you took the time, you would realize that not all of any race is good or bad. That includes White women as well. They have issues just as we do but when you are at an advantage you deal with differently. I am not jealous or bitter because anyone who finds love and I mean true love is really lucky regardless of color. But to premeditatedly look for that love outside your race is self-hatred at its worst."

I wonder if TTaylor is a shrink because Dr. Grace Cornish, the psychologist and author of "10 Good Choices That Empower Black Women's Lives," will tell anyone willing to listen the same.

"It's a cop out on the part of a Black man to blame Black women for his choices," Cornish says. "If they have a preference, that's one thing. But then to downgrade your whole race of women is the most ridiculous thing on the face of the earth. I don't think these men have a problem with Black women. I think they have problem with being Black themselves and they take it out on Black women.

"Definitely, a lot of Black men struggle to reach a certain level and they never feel they have reached the level of their White counterparts," Cornish says. "They feel they need a White woman as part of that lifestyle. These are the ones who actually have a backlash against Black women. They have not dealt with their own internal anger. Instead they see the opposite sex within their own race as the problem."

Cornish, who says she has seen how talk shows love to hype this issue, agrees that many Black women show anger and impatience but says that it is not a trait unique to us. "Our rites of passage are different,' she says. "We're told to be careful, to watch ourselves. We work so hard and we give away so many pieces of ourselves. We're tired and sometimes that tiredness is short of patience.

"The difference I find is that White Women are born with this air, this programming of entitlement," she adds. With us, we're always told you have to be twice as good to be considered half as good."

Marc Rutledge, in his message board post, says that as a Black man he understands the pain among Black women. "Black women get a bad rap because they are fed up with the lack of respect, consideration, admiration, and love they deserve from Black men," he says. "Couple that with the difficulties Black women face in the workforce… and you have more than enough justification to be 'filled with rage'. The mainstream media has played a major part in playing up these stereotypes as well. In most movies and TV shows, Black women are portrayed as hostile, angry, and bitter.

My experiences with White women have been pleasant, however my most meaningful, passionate relationships have been with Black women. I truly love and admire them, and to some extent I understand what they have to go through on a daily basis."

Slogging through this muddy issue reminds me that women, in general, have allowed men—often with the assistance of women—to dictate much of the discourse on relationships, whether race is a factor or not. A similar example would be how women are told that if they don't have a man, it is because they are not pretty enough, demure enough, not good enough a cook, too independent, not interested enough in sex or sports…Women allow themselves to played against each other—younger versus older, low-income versus high income, big butt versus no butt, etc.—like sorry chumps often fighting for a man who is a chump anyway. A whole industry of media, books, self-help tapes and videos feed this female insecurity and conditioned longing for a relationship. The latest example of this exploitation and misogyny is ABC's reality show, "The Bachelor," in which 25 women competed to be engaged to one White, male Harvard graduate. But many of us, thankfully, steer clear of this banquet piled high with false expectations and bitterness.

"I think it is not true that White or Asian women are nicer than Black women," says Monisha N. Austin. "I think it has to do with the way the man treats a woman for a woman to react back at him. Most Black women don't take too much crap from men. I think every body is the same way in every race because White men say they date Black women because they are nicer than White women, whereas Black men say they like White women because they are nicer than Black women."

Tana Kennedy adds, "There are good Black women and good White women and there are bitchy women of every race as well. Every woman should feel she is worth having a good man. I believe that most men, (Black, White, or other) want a good, strong woman who can add to their lives. As a woman, I believe every woman should strive to be a happy and independent person and then a good man will come into your life.

"To everyone, be proud of who you are," she adds. "Good Black women, you do have a unique and beautiful strength. Good White women, you too have beauty and just as much to offer any man you want as anyone. Good women, do you. To thine own self be true."
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Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 07:44 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Bullshit.
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Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 12:52 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I kind of skimmed the article but what's bullshit about it. Most of the stuff i read in it was on point
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Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 02:04 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I wish Black American women would wake the fuck up and start a revolution for themselves.

They started one for everybody else.

I really don't believe that black people anywhere on earth will rise...until the Black Woman rises, and the Black American woman is the KEY to that.

Our men are weak...and they suicidal.




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Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 02:19 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And before someone comes and attacks me

--let me just say

that I've been doing MORE than my share of shit.

But few are with me.

If these "lightskinned" sisters really are black women, then they need to realize what I've been laying down as well as the dark daughters....because as long as WHITE is the ultimate top---it doesn't matter how much status the lightness gives you; you will eventually be too dark.

The blue blacks have been eliminated. Now the chocolates are being shown as "exotic aliens".

Notice that suddenly the lightskinned girls are being called "brown".

Just the other day---I heard a nigger saying that a Mexican is just a "lightskinned" sister.

Strategically, we could all benefit by making our "darkness" the standard.

Otherwise, NONE OF US will survive.

We need to STAND for something. As a people.

We really need to wake the fuck up ....and those of us with some brains and who recognize strategy need to plant some serious seeds in the heads of our DUMBER members.

And we got a lot of dumb bitches in our race (both ghetto and Academic) who need a serious slap upside the head.

It's time for some serious motherfucking MAMA-SHIT and I wish black women would stop being scared and get with me.

We got a revolution to start.

And we good for that shit. Always have been.

I'll kill a black man before I let him set me in a ditch for a white woman to piss on.

Slit his fucking throat and SEW the White man some christmas mittens out of his fucking balls.

Black women have too much LOYALTY to people who hate them....too much POLITENESS to a society that loathes them....too much goddamned "sisterhood" to a race of white bitches who ain't got no damned sister in them.

We need to raise the fuck up.

I wish the fuck I could get on OPRAH.


tima usrah
(through fire comes the family)





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Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 02:20 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And I don't mean her goddamned t.v. show.


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Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 02:25 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola --

"I wish the fuck I could get on OPRAH."

Why? So she could disgrace and ridicule your dumb ass on a national basis? Just like "A Million Little Pieces"....
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Kola --

"The disgrace is your self-hating nigger ass."

Just the reaction we're looking for. And...thank you. How predictable.
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Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 02:36 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

????




Stop putting words in my mouth, Nels.

I said no such thing.





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Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 02:48 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Goodnight Kola...
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Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 02:54 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No grapes in those boxers, Nel?





Sweet dreams.





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Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 03:13 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm down for the revolution. When do we start?
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I just skimmed the article too, Misty, but from what I gathered, this sister (like so many "sisters" and "brothers") is only seeing the horror now because baffled lightskinned women are now getting burnt... which is a slap in the face just like everything else... and it's bullshit.. and I'm not trying to hear the MLK bullshit.
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Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 02:56 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Here are some highlights from the article Serenasailor posted.


But the fact is that we are still the national minority group most likely to marry within our group. We are the least meltable, despite several studies that indicate Black men are more likely to marry outside the race than Black women.

...the over-hyped trend serves as endless grist for the mill of television and radio talk shows, books, films, Internet chat rooms and message boards. Mass media profits big time from the notion and image of the supposedly angry, scorned Black woman standing in the shadows while her man hops to fence to be with Buffy. This notion of our bitter selves, which demeans us as a total people, is quite entertaining to America.

I sometimes look with disbelief at friends and family who have only surrounded their children with White folks and then are dismayed that their sons bring home a White girl. Well, who did they expect to come home? Serena Williams?

"Definitely, a lot of Black men struggle to reach a certain level and they never feel they have reached the level of their White counterparts," Cornish says. "They feel they need a White woman as part of that lifestyle. These are the ones who actually have a backlash against Black women. They have not dealt with their own internal anger. Instead they see the opposite sex within their own race as the problem."

"The difference I find is that White Women are born with this air, this programming of entitlement," she adds. With us, we're always told you have to be twice as good to be considered half as good."

Slogging through this muddy issue reminds me that women, in general, have allowed men—often with the assistance of women—to dictate much of the discourse on relationships, whether race is a factor or not. A similar example would be how women are told that if they don't have a man, it is because they are not pretty enough, demure enough, not good enough a cook, too independent, not interested enough in sex or sports…Women allow themselves to played against each other

...White men say they date Black women because they are nicer than White women, whereas Black men say they like White women because they are nicer than Black women." [ABM editorial: Could it be that Black people are nicer to White people they are dating than they are to Black people they are dating and White people are nicer to Black people they are dating than they are to White people they are dating because NOBODY wants to be view by the other person as being prejudiced?]
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Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 03:18 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

[ABM editorial: Could it be that Black people are nicer to White people they are dating than they are to Black people they are dating and White people are nicer to Black people they are dating than they are to White people they are dating because NOBODY wants to be view by the other person as being prejudiced?]

That's a huge truth ABM.

People DO treat people other races better.

Even in Africa--people of one tribe are usually nicer/go out of their way to those visiting from another tribe.

I can definitely say that when I take my sons with me to the grocery store----the White and Latino Male workers are 100 times friendlier to us than the Black Male workers (who generally ignore us, don't offer help and don't even acknowledge our presence).

Luckily, my boys have a heroic Black Father and your daughters have you.

But I disagree with the beginning of your post which says that MOST blacks marry black.

That depends on what you consider black, because what I have noticed is that most black MALES marry very lightskinned.

Which is where the LOSS of ACCULTURATION actually begins

--meaning

---it's easy to relate to/choose white flesh if your mother looks closer to that than to black and if she herself relates more to white beauty.

Tack on the low self-esteem of the darker women and what we have is a FUTURE.

The rate NOW is that 9% Black marry out, 37% date out of the race.

There's only 38 million blacks--which is why they can claim to have the LOWEST out.

But because of the Media Conditioning those numbers will be TRIPPLING in the next generation---if we don't watch the seed that's being planted RIGHT NOW.







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where in the hell did u get those stats kola?
i don't know about ya'll but it seems to me that alot of dark skinned bros usually end up w/ the lighter skinned sis, and the light skinned bros end up w/ the dark skinned sis ... so it all balances out. of course there will be some who decide to go outside of their race and do what ever they want ...because... hmmm, well because it's their right to do so. so all i can say to kola is good luck with your revolution, maybe you can sell some snacky cakes and cheesey poofs to help u raise some ca$h for it.
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Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 03:45 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

nice ... that's still not as good as the pic with the xray blowjob.
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Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 04:23 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Awwwwww.

Well, here's a picture of YOU, Doberman:



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Just the other day---I heard a nigger saying that a Mexican is just a "lightskinned" sister.

When did you hear that? And please explain to me what makes that comment so niggerish.(Just out of curiousity).
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Aren't lightskinned sisters supposedly "black"?

Are Mexicans supposed to be black now?

Things a nigger would say for twenny dollahs.


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good ol' kola ... u always meet my expectations :-)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 04:53 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I just don't like you Doberman.




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Kola: "That depends on what you consider black, because what I have noticed is that most black MALES marry very lightskinned."


Well. I don't know what you deem "very lightskinned. But I would NOT consider MOST of the married Black women I know to be "very lightskinned".
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Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 04:57 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You live in Chicago, ABM.


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black men don't hate black women, black men hate black bitches. if they date outside of their race they will soon find that other women are bitches too, they just didn't wait long enough to find a black woman. but when you break it down, no matter what color a guy is, he will want to be with a woman instead of a bitch.
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OH....and you're named after a DOG.

Son of a bitch.


Figures.

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yup like your sons
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Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 05:07 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola,

You live in Los Angeles.

And I'll bet Chicago is CONSIDERABLY more representative of the US than LA.
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Abm:

Well. I don't know what you deem "very lightskinned. But I would NOT consider MOST of the married Black women I know to be "very lightskinned".

Tonya:

Would you consider them to be brown (milk/snickers bar chocolate) to darkskinned (dark/mounds bar chocolate)?

Because that's what most black women are, you know.
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ABM,

I travel around the nation far more than you do.

And for instance---in Washington, D.C.----I notice that almost every black wife is "lightskinned" IN COMPARISON to her husband.

Even the yellow men in D.C. are married to light women.

Only in New York City and in the Deep South have I really seen Denzel/Pauletta couples in any vast numbers---and they were not considered "Good looking couples" in those settings.

A black man married to a high yellow woman was considered the IDEAL.....any and everywhere.

That kind of THINKING is what leads our youth to take it a step further...as this LIGHT/BRIGHT "womb" is just a STAND-in for a WHITE one.

But truly----you know what I'm talking about.

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My sons are not named DOBERMAN and they aren't ANYTHING like you.


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Don't be deterred, Doberman. I like you. You're funny and are a good anti-dote for that tiresome Serenasailor and his constant finger-pointing. So keep on doing your thing.

I was not aware that ABM lived in Chicago. I thought he resided in Atlanta. Why do I think this? A letter to an editor that he wrote and posted, appeared in an Atlanta newspaper.
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Kola:

Only in New York City and in the Deep South have I really seen Denzel/Pauletta couples in any vast numbers...

Tonya:

So true. That's what I noticed too.
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DOBERMAN

everyone here likes you...except me.

So fuck Kola. She's not worth it anyway.




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Tonya: "Would you consider them to be brown (milk/snickers bar chocolate) to darkskinned (dark/mounds bar chocolate)?"


I guess that might describe them.

And thanks: I LOVE me some chocolate.

*chuckle*
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Kola,

Okay. If you want to believe we Black men ONLY marry lightskinned women, I won't argue otherwise.
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I agree with what Kola said (excellent!), there needs to be a revolution by black women. But a lot of them are pretty messed up too. Many are enchanted with white people too, and love to talk about how they've got white people in their family. I've seen a lot of black women defending and even helping black men to stereotype and bash black women. I never see black men bashing each other though.
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thank you Cynique, i think that most people will agree that some folks on here, i'm not going to mention Kola or Tonya... are not looking for the betterment of black women but looking for seperation between black women based on their shade of brown. since they are their own worse enemy they will always be the same, tired, whiney, losers... your revolution will never work when it's based on your own self hate.

with that being said, you don't have to like me koala, i'm "that dude" who would look right past you anyways ... now go get to selling them snacky cakes baby!
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Koala. I love that! Maybe if the Boofa stayed on a diet of eucalyptic leaves she wouldn't need liposuction. LMAO.
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At 6'2 and built like a Goddess, I've never met a man who able to look right past me.

NO---

sheer force of Physics and gravity provided that they had to look at least once.

But you can keep talking shit, farnsworth.

I've cleaned and cocktailed dirtier shrimp than you.







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i would look right past you, you don't fit my description of a goddess not even in the vicinity as a matter of fact. your not even booty call material. so gon' head and hate me because i am that type of guy who passed you by, it wasn't because of you being dark complected either, it's because you carry around more baggage than santa claus ... so tilt that punk ass head back and sip on this haterade ... u are what u are and trust me it isn't a nubian queen or diva or any other bullshit title you might try to come up with to pump up that lackluster esteem you got there.
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LOL

I'm old enough to be your mother, quack-smack.

The reason I can't stand your sorry snot-faced ass has nothing to do with you not wanting me.

Is that all you think women are about?

Being wanted?

Shit. I'm not available for you to want---nor would I be attracted to you either. You're not SUBSTANTIAL enough.

Your comments on the BET thread and your arrival comments told me everything I needed to know.

I don't like you because of THAT.




Oh, and Doberman. I'm a PRO.

I know what men want.

What comes out of the mouth is NEVER commisserate with the "constitution" of males.

So gab on, bitch boy.

Because that's what you are. A BOY.




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Also, can you comprehend what you read?

sheer force of Physics and gravity

(*Do you know what that means?}

It means LOGISTICS, dumb ass.

There is no way possible for ANY HUMAN being to walk towards me and look right past me.

Not unless you're blind.

I take up the scenery. It's not what YOU want.

It's what GOD wants, runt-child.







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Rant on, Koala, as you display your "contempt for someone who doesn't reinforce your views". And there are quantum physic principles having to do the brain not integrating vibrating matter into an image if the eyes don't look directly at it or have never seen anything like said image before.
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It's not that he doesn't reinforce my views, Cynique.

It's that he doesn't VALUE my people.

And because I'm not a nigger, I can see that.

He's no different...IN MY EYES...than the son of a white redneck. He's just a butter-gralic skinned "WIGGER" version.







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I hadn't noticed Doberman dishonoring your people any more than you dishonor his. Talk about somebody being blind. Can you see yourself in the mirror??? In any case, Doberman is perfectly capable of defending himself, so I'm done.
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Exactly, Frog Legs.

You should have kept your two cents out from the beginning.

YOU like Doberman.

I don't.

I adore ABM.

You can't stand him (or that's what you claimed during a heated fight where you both expressed COMPLETE disdain for one another).

The only man on this forum who has EVER tamed me (put me in my place) is ABM, and that was NOT because I passively allowed it.

I'm not about to be caged by some wet behind the ears yella boy.




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Oh shut up, you dorky idiot. Since ABM came back to the board, and has taken on his new role as a laid-back kibitzer I have a new appreciation for him and he has really garnered my admiration for being able to stomach you. Doberman told your ass off and put you in your place and now you're so discombobulated that you have to go culling the archives reminding me and ABM that we once feuded because our truce makes you jealous. You're so immature and pathetic. Skitter on back over to your board.
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Uh,

yeah right, Frog Legs.

Just don't forget to wash the mildew out of the folds in your neck and jowls.

Shame you're not young enough for Doberman to let you suck his little yellow banana.







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Doberman has sense enough to know that I am just kidding with him. He knows I'm old enough to be his mother and should be able to discern that what I appreciate about him is his great sense of humor and his ability to see through you. You're the only fool who uses this board to fantasize about some man you can't have. Pitiful.
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Posted on Wednesday, March 01, 2006 - 08:56 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

NO, CYNIQUE----I'm old enough to be his mother.

Well... provided I had him as a teen.

You're old enough to be his GREAT GRANDMOTHER. Speaking from the grave, in fact.

And Cynique---I don't fantasize about any men. Seriously. At 70-plus, you can't possibly be that dimwitted.

If anything, I enjoy "barbs" and "flirting" with anonymous men who can't....reach out and touch me (which, by the way, includes POPS in the mouth).

And if you're referring to ABM, let's not pretend that he wasn't just as smitten with me as I was with him. He said so quite a few times.

And no matter what YOU think, or even his wife---neither of us was EVER serious like that.

If anything, we were like an incorrigable kiss'n cousins duet. There was no TRUE fire or danger of something happening.

ABM is a very financially well off man. If we had wanted something to happen---it would have happened, easily. I love Thomas (especially when ABM and I were talking--he was advising me and Thomas's relationship!!) and he loves his wife and spent most of our time bragging about her.

Though we both took it on the chin---we didn't do anything wrong and there was NO hanky panky even going on. ABM is a cad-talking gentleman and I'm an isolated soccer mom who loves talking cash shit and having a ribald laugh.

So there.

I've won again.








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Posted on Wednesday, March 01, 2006 - 09:01 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

To Mzuri, about the "Revolution":

http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus/messages/2152/2152.html?1141263989


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Thank You Ms. Kola. I thought I was going to have to start the revolution all by myself :-)
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Snort. You have to write an essay to try and sanitize your insanity but to me you're still ol crazy-ass Kola whose supposed to be this big-time author and Sudanese Joan of Arc but who apparently has nothing else going for yourself but this little cyber site where you hold forth around the clock, providing a nipple for a bunch of whining low-browns, posting a bunch of gross pictures the worst of which are the photos of you, assuming a bunch of different identities while regularly engaging in the irrational rants that clearly indicate how mentally disturbed you are. BTW, I didn't have to reveal my age to the board but I chose to, because I'm not ashamed of how old I am and, unlike certain sticks in the mud, am still able to see the humor in all aspects of life and, believe me, you menopausal ego-maniac, you are one of the biggest jokes I have ever encountered. And I'm not sure how old Doberman is, but I do have a 34 year old son so, whatever. And personally, I always got the feeling that ABM felt sorry for you and didn't want to hurt your feelings or pass up the chance to have his ego stroked. LMAO.
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LMAO!!!!!

The LAST THING, ABM, has ever felt for me....was sorry.

Compassion a few times when I was drunk and upset because Thomas had left me, yes. But sorry (?)---ABM KNOWS me and spent more time laughing at my ass.

Dream on, Cynique.






And keep up with your walk. Your cholesteral's coming down---and that one good eye stopped twitching.

Later, Cookie Monster.







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Love the antenna braids Mzuri gave you.

I should have her do my hair sometime.



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I'm still laughing at you trying to pass yourself off as too young to be Doberman's mother, Kaola. You're 45 if you're a day. You need to be looking into hormone injections instead of liposuction. You could get those cheeks thinned out, tho, so you won't look like you're storing up nuts for the winter.
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"sanitize your insanity"

That's a good one.
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45 and a day???

Please Cynique.

You wish I was that old.




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And you've seen my MELONS and you know damned well they're 100% real.

No woman at 45 has tits that sit up as high and BOUNCE and JIGGLE like mines do.


But.

I am approaching 40. In fact, I imagine that I might be 40 by now.

All I need is my waistline back. And the liposuction will make it even BETTER than it was before the babies were born.








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Cynique---

I know how much you
and Schakspir and Doberman
hate me




and I couldn't care less.





Isn't this gorgeous!?



Admit it.

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You look like you're in your 40s. You lie about your age. And hating you requires too much energy. You just get on my nerves.
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And I do not like the decor of that room AT ALL. That color is not soothing, there is no contrast or coziness or character. Not some place I would like to relax in.
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OK, Cynique---I'm 45.



Happy now?

LMAO!!!!!



Hell, make it 50.



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You are so into yourself. Is that goofy picture with the wrong color foundation on your face, and the poorly concealed bags under your eyes supposed to change my opinion of your age? As I recall, you once said you had no birth certificate. So you can say you're any age you want to. 45 sounds and looks about right. In fact, I know 50 year old women who look better than you.
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I'd say about 43.
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good ol' koala ... just cause you look like that doesn't mean you have to act like that. i can see why your so bitter, and logistically i would've looked passed, through, over, and around your stankin' ass. see i tried to keep it a little civil because calling you a dumb beotch is probably as normal as when someone calls you by your real name, i'm willing to bet if someone even yells out dumb bitch you probably look up answer "huh? somebody call me?" ... but i won't do that. i could make wise cracks to balance all the light skinned insults, but i'm not gonna go there ... you may be older than me, but i'm not seeing the wisdom, just hatred. nigger, nigga, nigguhs, what ever you want to say is usually uttered by people who hate black people, start using some posts without that you dumb ass. you are a hater and will die one. what's funny is your kids will probably end up bringing white chicks home because their mom is such a bitch. you'll be just like those racist white parents who's kid come home with a new black family member, hopefully it will make you so sick your hate fill heart explodes...and u die.

as far as my BET comments, fuck it ... I could care less what you think, I love lightskinned sistahs... there smart, cool, and fine as hell ... and i won't appologize for it! is that my only reason for loving them because of their complextion... no genious...reread what i just wrote. i can really see why you want to get that seperation hate going, it's like when someone can't compete they become envious and decietful. why don't you just keep talking about your tigobitties, hopefully that will distract everyone from that modelesque mug of yours :-)

and if there really is a guy in your life, tell him bullets work faster than pills ... he's suffered enough as is.

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