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Edenson
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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 02:07 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Last night I think that I had an apiphany-apifany or however its spelled... anyway, last night was the very first time that I have ever been called a Nigger, or atleast to my face...

I was stranded in Miami, and I couldn't find a ride, so I had no choice but to take a cab home... We got in front of my house, and before the driver would let me out to get the money inside, he wanted all of my posessions... Now I agreed to give him my I.D. and to leave the things I brought from the store in the car... Well, this wasn't good enough for him. He wanted my cell phone too, we kind of got into it, because I didn't want to leave my phone...So he asked for my whole wallet, I gave it to him and I went to get the money... Mind you, we're right in front of my house, and I live in a gated community in the suburbs, so it's not like I could run because there is no place to hide, unlike if I lived in an apartment complex or something....

Anyway I went inside, I gave him $30 and he said that the fare was $34... I didn't want to go back in the house to get $4 so I told him I didn't have it. He replied to me and said, "next time don't try that shit." So I took my stuff out of his hands and I told him to get the fuck out of here. He got out the car and he asked what did I say like he wanted to fight or something. I turned back around and repeated it for him so that this time he could hear me clear. Words were exchanged and all I remember is he said you fuckin Nigger. Then I went on a 15 second rampage calling him every name I could think of, and when I was done I went inside and he drove off. The messed up thing is that when I checked all of my cards and my wallet, I noticed that he still had my I.D.

I felt so violated... I kind of wish that I had replied in different way, instead of expressing my limited vocabulary of curse words... but a part of me felt good because I knew he drove away feeling hurt. That's what I like about curse words, when you use them you can get an immediate reaction, and I knew I mad him feel like shit... But I felt like shit too.

The cab driver was either hispanic or Jewish... I couldn't really tell because his speech was wierd... but I doubt he was Jewish... I never seen one of them driving a cab... Bottom line is that he was white. I try to tell people that not all white people are racist, but after last night my perception has changed. I realized that a lot of them probably dream about the day when they will be able to use the word Nigger. That word made so many emotions come up. I was angry, embarrassed, disrespected.... I'm stilla little shaken up over the whole thing... but I'm glad it happened. It's opened up my eyes a little more as to how people really do look at black people.

Have any of you ever been called a nigger??? Or do ya'll think I should have reacted in a different way???....
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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 02:23 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have no sympathy for you...WHATSOEVER.

You couldn't understand how little black girls were shattered to have BLACK MEN spit in their hair and chide them for not having "pretty hair" like the Puerto Rican girls on the block.

But now the world stops because a Jew called you a nigger.

Man, OPEN your eyes to the whole picture.




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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 02:36 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cabbies are crazy. And you must know that this cabbie was itching to bust you in the face as soon as he turned into the gated community which is your home. There was definitely a haterish element to this conflict, kind of like, "you might think you are a fancy nigga, but I'm going to put you in your place by (1) insinuating that you can afford this house yet would steal a $30 fare for shits and giggles; and (2) creating and escalating a conflict out of whole cloth."

I've never been called a nigger by a non-black, but I would think that you would have carte blanche to cuss out anyone who would do so.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 02:40 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LOL......I've been called a nigger plenty of times. Never by a non-black (at least not to my face). It actually hurts MORE that black people call me that. But for me, no matter who calls me that, it's a fighting word.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 02:51 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sympathy from you would be just as worst as that Jew calling me a nigger. A black person who looks down on their own race is not a black person at all. I don't need your sympathy, just like you don't need mines. All I have for you Kola is pitty. You make light skinned people white, so that you can make dark skinned people authentic Black. You want to be a leader, but your back isn't big enough to carry a whole heritage to a new. You're barely strong enough to carry yourself. I don't know who has made your head so big. Get your heag out of your ass Kola Boof! You act like you're the best thing to come up out of Africa since Mandella. Fuck outta here. Everyone that I have asked have never even heard of you. I know that never heard of you until I found this board. How are you ever supposed to lift people up, if you're always using your right hand to pat yourself on the back. Hhmmm... A black person who puts down other black people to lift herself up... How ironic is that....
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You couldn't understand how little black girls were shattered to have BLACK MEN spit in their hair and chide them for not having "pretty hair" like the Puerto Rican girls on the block.
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I don't think I ever said anything to ever gve someon that impression. I just made a point that you don't like light skinned women, and anybody from any other culture other than African... Oh, except ofcourse your own Cleopatra come to life, your almight white Goddess "Madonna."
Kola, go kill yourself. I think that it will be for the betterment of the black race. That way we can get a real Black Female Leader who knows what she is doing, and atleast knows how to comprehend a few simple paragraphs on a message board.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 03:12 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I just made a point that you don't like light skinned women, and anybody from any other culture other than African... Oh, except ofcourse your own Cleopatra come to life, your almight white Goddess "Madonna."


What a lie.

I do love many light skinned women...and in fact, I'm sure that I like them (as a group) far more than they like African women or so called "dark" women.

But your own FAVORITISM keeps you from having true vision about who the ones looking down their noses are.

And although Madonna is no "Cleopatra" come to life---she really is a White Goddess--one whose main charm is that she enjoys being white----and being a goddess myself, I can appreciate that.


Kola, go kill yourself. I think that it will be for the betterment of the black race.

:-(


That way we can get a real Black Female Leader

Leaders aren't gotten. They have to stand up. AND...I'm not a leader for your kind.

I'm for Authentic Blacks.





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Renata
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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 03:14 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have to disagree with you Edenson. What I personally see Kola doing is making sure we realize that dark skinned women is every inch the goddess that every other woman is considered. What she points out, truthfully, is that the only "black" woman BLACK people are even willing to accept are those that look the LEAST like black women.

Every race of woman in the world can say that they're the most beautiful women in the world, and it's believed. It's a sign of CONFIDENCE and SELF ESTEEM. When Kola says that she believes HER IMAGE is the most beautiful in the world, it's controversial, it's a sign of hate. EVERY WOMAN should feel that she's the most beautiful image on earth. I would think SO LITTLE of Kola if she agreed that every other woman is more beautiful than her own image.

Unfortunately, for this society, it's SO NORMAL for us to think we're BENEATH everyone else that a black (and even more a WOMAN) stating that their image, in their opinion, is SUPERIOR to others is laughed at as crazy.

I'm glad Kola has the nerve at least to say what no one has had the nerve to say so adamantly before: Black women should think of THEMSELVES just as highly as every one else think of themselves.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 03:15 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I hate to tell you, but if I was a cabbie and the fare was $34 and you paid me $30 I'd have called you a nigger too. More like a broke ass nigger. LOL.

Okay, so you don't have a check book? Do you realize that he could have called the police on you? He rendered a service and you didn't pay for it. Him calling you out your name is the least of your worries. He could have had you arrested.

And he knows where you live too? How do you know he won't come back and set your friggen house on fire? Dude, cabbies that drove you home aren't the one's you want to be jerkin around with.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 03:18 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

OTHER "White Goddesses" that I absolutely love.









These are my MOTHERS, too.

"Read" my autobiography if you really
want to KNOW what you're talking about.










And I still maintain my SHOCK at the time you totally SKIPPED OVER the little black girls having Black men spit in their "ugly nappy hair", so you could bitch about me not wanting Halle Berry to play Nefertiti.

You ignored the fact that I'm a big Halle Berry fan.






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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 03:22 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mzuri, that's a good point. He definitely should have paid that cabbie the whole $34. But on the other hand, I take a lot of cabs and a lot of times they'll haggle with you on price, particularly if you get them through a car service. And, it seems as if the cabbie really did start the conflict with an insistence that the rider leave a cell phone in the car with them. I've taken a couple of round trips by cab and had to drop someone/something off, and take my phone and wallet, only leaving the contents of my purse.

How I would have handled it: "I'll be back in a minute, you can leave the meter running," and just ignore any "wait, leave your phone" or whatever while I ran into the house.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 03:28 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Most cabbies will take checks. Maybe they think a guy is going to try to hustle them or something?
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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 03:28 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ms. Kola - You might love the white women whose pix you posted above, but I doubt very seriously that any of them had any love for any black ppl. If any of those women were alive today, I promise you that they would not treat us as their equal, but rather as a cook, cleaning woman, washer woman, servant, or maid.

And what the heck is a "white goddess?" You consider an actress is a goddess? I strongly disagree. But to each his own - I suppose.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 03:35 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ms. Kola - You might love the white women whose pix you posted above, but I doubt very seriously that any of them had any love for any black ppl. If any of those women were alive today, I promise you that they would not treat us as their equal, but rather as a cook, cleaning woman, washer woman, servant, or maid.


That is true....but the point is....they saw themselves as "goddesses"---not niggerstock.

I am can enjoy watching BETTE DAVIS a helluva lot more than I can watch Mary J. Blige doing "white girl's drag" in 10 videos straight.

I love Mary's voice and I have ALL her CD/s, I'm a huge fan of MARY....but I HATE how she looks.

And my REFERENCE was to him being mad that I liked Madonna as a teen.

These women are MOVIE GODDESSES, and I am a movie buff--specialty being 1920's silent films, because I couldn't speak English when I first came here.


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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 03:36 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Edeson :I didn't want to go back in the house to get $4 so I told him I didn't have it

You didn't want to go back in the house?
Pay the man his money. You just made it worse for blacks in Miami to get CABS !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Damn !
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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 03:38 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

My question is, why didn't you give him the other four dollars you apparently owed him?

I don't excuse him using the word "nigger," but I don't excuse your actions neither.

(And by the way, all cabbies are leery about letting people out before paying, even black ones, especially when there fares are younger people).

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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 03:38 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

After reading your post again, it really pisses me off. Your conduct is the exact reason why we can't get a cab to even pick us up in many places. They don't want to be bothered with the hassles of dealing with Black ppl.

FYI - When you owe a cabbie money, he has every right to demand collateral from you before you exit the vehicle. If you don't believe me, call the cab company yourself and ask them. Or call your attorney. And be sure to post their reply here.

And you really need to rethink your business etiquette. You do realize that you're supposed to tip a cabbie. So not only did you short him, you didn't even tip him. Yup, that's exactly why the rest of us get treated like shit. Because of ppl like you.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 03:38 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Edenson, I would never get in a cab knowing I didn't have money to pay the fare. They get that crap all the time with people jumping out and running.

Maybe you just should have sucked it up and walked where you was going or taken the bus.

Sorry.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 03:40 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

My bad. I meant to say, "especially when 'their' fares are younger people."
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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 03:43 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

After reading your post again, it really pisses me off. Your conduct is the exact reason why we can't get a cab to even pick us up in many places. They don't want to be bothered with the hassles of dealing with Black ppl.

Oh fucking please. You think white people don't act the same way or worse? Like blacks have the market cornered on obnoxiousness. Please. Most of the time the reason cabbies don't want to pick black people up is because these assholes don't want to drive into black neighborhoods because they don't think they'll find a fare for the return trip back. Or they don't think they'll get a tip. Or they just can't stand black people, period.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 03:45 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Edenson, I would never get in a cab knowing I didn't have money to pay the fare. They get that crap all the time with people jumping out and running.

I once had a cabbie wait for me at an ATM. He didn't care, so long as the meter kept running. Do you guys take a lot of cabs?
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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 03:50 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Damn Jackie, you posted your response before I had a chance to post mine!

But you're right. His refusal to pay the four dollars was the thing that stuck out most about his post (besides the word "nigger," which happened after he refused to pay; not that that's an excuse ).
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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 03:51 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

That is true....but the point is....they saw themselves as "goddesses"---not niggerstock.

Sorry Ms. Kola. Again, I have to disagree. It is absolutely impossible for anyone to know what another person thinks, feels, or views about themselves. But I got your point. They are goddesses to themselves, not to the rest of us.

Just like I am a Goddess - Bow down everybody - I am a GODDESS!!!
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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 03:54 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You didn't want to go back in the house?
Pay the man his money. You just made it worse for blacks in Miami to get CABS !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Damn !


You think there aren't whites who have haggled a cabby's price down/vomited or peed in his or her car/acted the damn fool, stuff like mimicking accents or bouncing all around the back seat?

Why is it when blacks do something, it justifies the punishment of the entire race, yet when whites do the same thing, no one would say anything like "you just made it hard for whites to hail cabs here"? Come on! I've taken many, many cabs and car services, whether personally or supplied by my employers. I tend to get into decent conversations with the nice drivers, and some of the shit they've seen in their cars would make your hair turn white. And no way can all of those stories represent only black people.

Why do we invite people to punish us as a whole? No other race does this shit.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 03:57 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

With the way things are happening these days, Edenson could have gotten himself SHOT over those $4 - and the cabbie would have probably walked too.

"Well, Judge, Your Honor - I was afraid for my life after the great big scary looking Black man threatened me after he wouldn't pay me my money"

Yup, justifiable homcide over four friggen dollars.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 04:16 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Blackwisdom:

I once had a cabbie wait for me at an ATM. He didn't care, so long as the meter kept running. Do you guys take a lot of cabs?

Tonya:

I usually take cabs EVERYWHERE I go but I think the difference is that we're women. Yes, I have cabs wait for me at ATMs. Yes, they let me go in the house to get extra money, with no hassle. Yes, they sometimes turn off the meter or give me a discount, especially if I act like I'm interested in what they have to say. And some of them let me go for free when I'm desperate (broke) enough to flirt with them. I think they'd be totally diferent with men, though, especially younger ones. Is it wrong? Probably so. But then gender discrimination should be the argument.

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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 04:17 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mzuri,

Since I have studied the lives of Bette Davis, Joan Crawford and Greta Garbo quite intensely---I DO know quite a bit about what they thought of themselves.

And my point is this....

I can relate to Angela Bassett far more than I can relate to Mary J. Blige.

Now replace Angela Bassett with the women who USED to play her same roles....Bette Davis, Barbara Stanwyk, etc.

While I love Whitney Houston with all my heart...I respect what Madonna has done with much less natural talent......EVEN MORE.

Madonna has superior material, socio/political commentary, is a sexual image but also a mother, is imperfect---but LOVES her whiteness and demands it.

But right now....Whitney's a blonde.

I don't see Madonna, however, or any WHITE public female figure.....LIVING with Afro on for months at a time.

Maybe for "one" video.

But not 21 years in "white girl drag" like my girl, Mary J. and Lil Kim.

There is a weakness in "some" black women's IMAGES that is palpable and poisonous.

WHICH IS/WAS MY POINT.

Bette Davis's image was WHOLE and POWERFUL



I got much strength from watching her.

I could give a care about her "real life" racism while I'm watching the GODDESS image on the big screen.


This is the SAME THING that I love about watching Angela Bassett today.

The IN-tactness and the way Angela won't demean her CORE being...just to be accepted.

And yes, celluloid doesn't allow one to ever die. This image creates a kind of GODDESS.

I am not speaking of terrestial bodies, but of MYTHICAL Creations.

Movie stars.




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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 04:25 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Race aside. So, Black Wisdom...hmmmm....that gives Edie the right to stiff a person what is due. Without a tip as well ? HOW BOUT BUSINESS ETHICS !Cause you know if it were you, you would want yo money too ! Puleeze Mr. Holier than thou. Go get some coffee or get laid. Damn baby !

Edeson :I didn't want to go back in the house to get $4 so I told him I didn't have it

You didn't want to go back in the house?
Pay the man his money. You just made it worse for blacks in Miami to get CABS !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Damn
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I usually take cabs EVERYWHERE I go but I think the difference is that we're women. Yes, I have cabs wait for me at ATMs. Yes, they let me go in the house to get extra money, with no hassle. Yes, they sometimes turn off the meter or give me a discount, especially if I act like I'm interested in what they have to say. And some of them let me go for free when I'm desperate (broke) enough to flirt with them. I think they'd be totally diferent with men, though, especially younger ones. Is it wrong? Probably so. But then gender discrimination should be the argument.

Tonya, I think that's really true. I think that gender does have a lot to do with it, and wouldn't imagine myself qualified to talk about how different things might be for a black man. I'm not saying my cab experiences have always been wonderful: I have had to complain to an employer when a car service's drivers repeatedly complained to me about driving to the borough I live in (before the whites started moving in, though), but when a white colleague who lived in the same borough as I would share a car home with me, the drivers never said shit.

But people are acting so aghast that this guy paid $30 on a $34 fare (even though he should have paid the extra $4) and told to cabbie to wait while he got his money. You can bet that whites do stuff like that all of the time, yet no one insinuates that they are the devil incarnate for it.
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So, Black Wisdom...hmmmm....that gives Edie the right to stiff a person what is due. Without a tip as well ?

No, it doesn't. But it's not like something like this is so crazy or unusual either. And definitely not exclusive to black people.

Puleeze Mr. Holier than thou. Go get some coffee or get laid. Damn baby !

Oh, fuck off.
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Ouch Black Wisdom that hurt : (



hurt so good !!!
I love u man !


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Gtochu, Black_wisdom. That makes alot of sense.
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LOL, Tonya....I used to do that before I got married. Not even quite flirt, just ask their name, where they're from, etc., and BOOM, free ride!

Maybe if Edenson just batted his eyes, say his feet hurt from walking all day, and asked if the cabbie goes dancing sometimes and what kind of food he likes, he would have saved $30 and not even be expected to pay the other 4. (if luck were on his side and the cabbie was gay).

LOL
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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 04:47 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Jackie:
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Reneta,

("Not even quite flirt, just ask their name, where they're from, etc., and BOOM, free ride!")


That's what I call flirting, lol!

...What can I say... I'm a little old-fashioned.
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Girl, when I REALLY start flirting, I start asking more 'personal' questions than his name!
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LMAO!!!!!! at Tonya and Renata!!!! :-)

AND MISS JACKIE.

LOL!!!!






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Dog Ms. Kola - You just like to argue, don't you. I think it's great that you studied those actresses lives, but you can't KNOW what another person thinks. It's impossible. You can't even know what your own children think, let alone some dead actress that you never even met. Besides, ppl's feelings fluctuate. Everything could be wonderful one day, the next day they are all f'd up. I haven't studied them but I heard about their lives in bios, etc. as I enjoy watching the old-time black and white movies. All three of them were either married and divorced multiple times, estranged from their families, estranged from their children, lesbians, suffered thru unrequited love, bad relationships, suffered from depression or were otherwise messed up. And they were actresses. It ain't no way you could tell what those crazy mixed-up bitches were thinking.
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Edenson - Next time you get into a cab and you don't have any money with you, the thing to do is to let the driver know from the very start that you don't have any cash on you and that you will need to enter your home upon arrival to get the money to pay him. That way the cabbie will be informed and he can decide whether he wants you as his fare or not. To wait until you arrive at your destination to inform your driver you have no cash is definitely NOT the correct thing to do, as it only invites negative suspicion.
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Mzuri,

I'm not arguing with you at all. :-)

I'm trying to get you to see what my original point was.

About the IMAGES women represent and how I related more to some White women's images than to black.

I don't know if you finished reading my last post, which detailed it perfectly.

It doesn't matter what those women thought. I PROJECTED on them by their actions and the images they presented.

Just as Alice Walker points out that Bessie Smith's is a much healthier/more powerful image than Billie Holiday's.

Bessie was not a victim, was not weak, was intensely proud of her blackness and had better material and a much stronger message than Billie Holiday.

For instance, Bessie would never sing "My Man" (about loving a man who beats you) or those types of songs.

But for those reasons, White Media never promoted Bessie Smith. They preferred Billie Holiday, because she died "defeated/broken" and was less threatening.








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I fucking hate Modanna. She is the phoniest white biyatch out there. She calls herself an outspoken artist who is afraid of no one. However, she refused to stand up to George Bush. She changed the lyrics of her song, and was to chickenshit to release it. Also, she is that same phony liberal white Hollywood garbage that all of those actors pretend to be.

Those white liberals are so fucking phony. They try to pretend to be so fucking cool and like they love everyone, but those are some of the most closeted racist around.
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Well back when I was a Madonna fan--20 years ago? (1984, 1985)

She really was WILD.

And brilliant.

She wasn't just a singer, but a FULL SCALE artist in every way---and she was revolutionary back then.



I haven't kept up with her, because after Lauryn Hill and Erykuh Badu and those types came out---I stopped listening to/watching Madonna.

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Madonna's on the cover of the March Harper's Bazaar and she looks really good. There's also a photo spread and an interview which I haven't bothered to read. Regardless of what you think about her, you must admit that she's still got it goin on to be in her fifties. And before you dog me about subscribing to Harper's, I am an interior decorator and I must keep up with the latest trends in fashion and design.

Anyway, Ms. Kola - I got your point about the goddess thing. But I think sometimes you make too many comparisons. Some things just can't be compared. Everyone knows about Miss Billie Holiday's tragic life and that she had her frailties/weaknesses, but that is part of the reason why she is so much loved. People can relate to her, and still feel sympathetic about the predicaments that she created for her self. Maybe she's not the ideal role model for Black women, but we still love her though. As far as her singing those depressing songs, those are the blues - that's what she sang. I don't think all that stuff she sang about really happened in her real life. And her voice is one of a kind. Ain't nobody tryin to listen to no Bessie Smith so if you tell me that you listen to old Bessie Smith records I'm getting in my and coming looking for you!
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"I have no sympathy for you...WHATSOEVER.

You couldn't understand how little black girls were shattered to have BLACK MEN spit in their hair and chide them for not having "pretty hair" like the Puerto Rican girls on the block.

But now the world stops because a Jew called you a nigger.

Man, OPEN your eyes to the whole picture."

Kola Boof-oon, fuck you.

Those of us on this board who have half a brain are sick and goddamn tired of you whining because some gooks chopped your clit off when you were a little girl(so you claim)and the only people I even hear you whining about are BLACK MEN and(occasionally) Arab men. But whitey? Oh, no, the honky always gets a pass, even if it is he who started all this shit, and gets stupid niggers(like yourself, for instance)to extend it. If you hate Afro-Americans so much, why don't you hustle your ass to those fat-ass Israeli heebs who probably pay your fucking bills, and take your ass to Dakar or Timbuktu or Casablanca, the better so we won't have to hear your ignorant shit?! Fuck you, you black-ass nazi. You are NOT revolutionary, you are NOT progressive, you aren't even a real reactionary. You're just a sad-ass headcase who has built an entire world view around your inability to hold onto a steady relationship with ANY man, black, white, red, purple, brown, or green. And the reasons are obvious: you're ugly, and a fucking headcase. Why else would you waste so much time posting pics of your tits and ass everywhere--like most people actually want to see that stupid shit?

I may not agree with everything Alice Walker says, but even she didn't have to put pics of her tits on Player's magazine just to get over. And even in middle age she looks infinitely better than this moose-faced fag-hag.

I have been to this board every now and then reading your ignorant bullshit and felt that since it was so cornball and repetitive and backasswards, I might as well just let it slide. But this one takes the goddamn cake. FUCK YOU, ASSHOLE. And FUCK your crappy-ass books you keep on trying to jam down everybody's motherfucking throats. By the way you keep on flashing your can and posting these stupid-ass pics on this site, and hiding behind umpteen aliases all praising the ash off your scraggly Somali ass, you practically give yourself away.

Please, you broken-down, used-up plaything of half-savage oil sheiks, do the world a favor and buy a one-way ticket back to Khartoum and kill some half-caste Janjaweed coons for us. We all hate them too and obviously you are making us wretch by projecting your own twisted fantasies onto the rest of us!!


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"Last night I think that I had an apiphany-apifany or however its spelled... anyway, last night was the very first time that I have ever been called a Nigger, or atleast to my face...

I was stranded in Miami, and I couldn't find a ride, so I had no choice but to take a cab home... We got in front of my house, and before the driver would let me out to get the money inside, he wanted all of my posessions... Now I agreed to give him my I.D. and to leave the things I brought from the store in the car... Well, this wasn't good enough for him. He wanted my cell phone too, we kind of got into it, because I didn't want to leave my phone...So he asked for my whole wallet, I gave it to him and I went to get the money... Mind you, we're right in front of my house, and I live in a gated community in the suburbs, so it's not like I could run because there is no place to hide, unlike if I lived in an apartment complex or something....

Anyway I went inside, I gave him $30 and he said that the fare was $34... I didn't want to go back in the house to get $4 so I told him I didn't have it. He replied to me and said, "next time don't try that shit." So I took my stuff out of his hands and I told him to get the fuck out of here. He got out the car and he asked what did I say like he wanted to fight or something. I turned back around and repeated it for him so that this time he could hear me clear. Words were exchanged and all I remember is he said you fuckin Nigger. Then I went on a 15 second rampage calling him every name I could think of, and when I was done I went inside and he drove off. The messed up thing is that when I checked all of my cards and my wallet, I noticed that he still had my I.D.

I felt so violated... I kind of wish that I had replied in different way, instead of expressing my limited vocabulary of curse words... but a part of me felt good because I knew he drove away feeling hurt. That's what I like about curse words, when you use them you can get an immediate reaction, and I knew I mad him feel like shit... But I felt like shit too.

The cab driver was either hispanic or Jewish... I couldn't really tell because his speech was wierd... but I doubt he was Jewish... I never seen one of them driving a cab... Bottom line is that he was white. I try to tell people that not all white people are racist, but after last night my perception has changed. I realized that a lot of them probably dream about the day when they will be able to use the word Nigger. That word made so many emotions come up. I was angry, embarrassed, disrespected.... I'm stilla little shaken up over the whole thing... but I'm glad it happened. It's opened up my eyes a little more as to how people really do look at black people.

Have any of you ever been called a nigger??? Or do ya'll think I should have reacted in a different way???...."

Edenson, even though you weren't really correct in not giving the guy his $34, who cares? MIAMI SUCKS SHIT! Florida is the state that gave us this nightmare of a pResident! And everyone knows that the Cubans down there are assholes, anyway, so even if you WERE wrong....fuck it. He probably needed it, anyway.
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Schakspir

aka

P. Lewis,

FUCK YOU AS WELL,

BITCH



and YOU WISH you had the talent to write my "crappy" ass books.

But you don't.


And I'd like to see you or anybody else MAKE ME take my ass back to Khartoum.



I've fileted bigger dicks than yours in my life time, so bring it


Princess Tiny Meat




And send that to your MAMA
while you're at it



Don't blame ME for this
shit, nigga











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Kola, you read his two post....

He did hisSELF in. Why would you stoop to his level?
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Actually, I didn't read his posts.

LOL

I just saw the put downs.

But OK Tonya....I'll be good.




LMAO


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Schakspir----

I don't know any White men.

That's why I barely mention them.

I live in a world of Black men.


Or Africans who speak ARAB.




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"Schakspir

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P. Lewis,

FUCK YOU AS WELL,

BITCH



and YOU WISH you had the talent to write my "crappy" ass books.

But you don't.


And I'd like to see you or anybody else MAKE ME take my ass back to Khartoum.



I've fileted bigger dicks than yours in my life time, so bring it


Princess Tiny Meat"

It's difficult to imagine that you are actually pushing forty. But then again, since you are a schizophrenic, and manifest all the repetitious bullshit that schizos do, it should come as no surprise....

BTW we have all seen all these dumb pics before, and they don't do anything but make the thinking people on this board laugh.

I know my own self-worth, and I don't need to prove it on some sorry-ass message board. That's what mixed-up teens do. Anybody who wants to see a REAL message board can go to the Enemyboard at publicenemy.com. Kola would not last two seconds over there, because the vast majority of those posters actually have brains.
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You have a safe trip Princess Tiny Meat.

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This is the SAME THING that I love about watching Angela Bassett today.

The IN-tactness and the way Angela won't demean her CORE being...just to be accepted.

And yes, celluloid doesn't allow one to ever die. This image creates a kind of GODDESS.

I am not speaking of terrestial bodies, but of MYTHICAL Creations.

Movie stars."

I'm surprised you didn't mention Mae West. She was the shit and had the curves besides.


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A hard man...is good to find.

--Mae West





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Schakspir:

"You are Pushing forty"


KOLA:

Yeah, I'm pushing it back!

Shit.


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Edenson, are you sure that the cabbie did not call you "NIGGA"?? You may have mis-undertood "NIGGA" for "Nigger".
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I'm only 23 and have been called nigger and even treated like a lab rat. My physician mother has been called nigger to her face by fellow physicians several times, including one of my (ex)psychiatrists, who was east indian.


Edenson,

1)Cabbies are always rude. 2)There was no reason for you to give that man less than he charged you.It made you look like a cheapskate. I live in the suburbs tooand the cab far averages on $30-$40 soI understand. As my mother tells me--always make sure you have an extra 50$ in your wallet in case you need a cab. And 3) you should have left the guy your things from the store-- THAT'S JUST COMMON SENSE.

But....I DO understand Edenson's fustration with asking for support in a time of emotional trauma and getting more criticism instead. It damages one's sense of security.

Don't feel bad about this episode, just learn from it for next time. You can't learn without being burned.

And to everyone else,

I know some UMCB like Edenson. Sheltered so long in the gated community that they are like a child in the harsh world. So leave him alone, just this time. He obviously hasn't had a lot of experience in life, and needs to catch up.
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Kola,

You and this Schakspir person have some kind or professional or personal rivalry or something?

If so, what's the basis or cause of such?
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ABM,

Schakspir is the novelist P. Lewis.

He doesn't like me, because he's the "epitome" of the Pro-Black Rhetoric-Spill'n Colorstruck White Woman Worshipping TomBitch that I castigate in all of my works.

I don't hate him or even notice him---but he's been a devoted stalker and hater.




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first off... Cabs in Florida are not like cabs in big cities like new york. I had to pay $34 for a 10 minute ride in a dusty cab. I doubt that extra $4 hurt his pocket any. And I did leave my things from the store in the car, but he insisted that I leave my phone. So, he could have called the cops on me. I really doubt that I would get arrested for not giving him the extra $4. And since when did four dollars give a white person the right to use the word Nigger. Maybe if the fare was $34.25, I should have went and got that quarter too. Most of you wouldn't have. It's not like I didn't give him anything. Maybe I should have got out in the middle of the street and ran to avoid paying at all... Then maybe I would have showed him how much of a Nigger I could really be.
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Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 11:25 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Edenson,

No one here is suggesting that the cabbie had a "right" to call you a nigger, but he was provoked because your conduct was unbecoming.

1. You knew what the fare was from the beginning - it's posted on the meter - and if the cab was so dusty, you could have passed on that one and called for another.

2. You should have advised when you first got into the cab that you didn't have the funds on your person so that he wouldn't become suspicious when you sprung this news on him upon arrival at your destination. Since you didn't extend this simple courtesy, he had the right to demand collateral from you. He asked for your phone because he knew it has value - to you.

3. When you brought back the money you should have paid him the full amount plus a tip - even though you felt slighted.

4. Instead you became hostile when he asked for the full amount that was owed him, you grabbed your stuff which he hadn't yet released and to which you probably weren't entitled.

5. And then you told him to get the fuck out of there - probably in a threatening manner.

And then he called you a nigger. What did you expect? Yes, he could have called the police on you, not over the dollar amount but for "theft of services" which is a crime most anywhere. And possibly for the threatening conduct when he asked you for the full amount. If the police had been called, with whom do you think they would have sided? You? And my scenario about him shooting you isn't that farfetched. It happens.

You were in the wrong and I apologize if you're upset, but it's reality. If I were you, I would mail the rest of the money to the cab company because you never know when you might need to call a cab. And try to get your ID card back. Chalk this episode up to experience and move on.
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Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 01:46 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You know damn well that you wouldn't mail nothin to nobody. First off, when I said that I grabbed my things... He was holding my stuff in his hands, and he had already pocketed the money. It's not like I snatched it from him. It was an easy exchange. Now maybe in a big city where cabs run freely, you would pass on a cab and settle for another a few minutes later if it were dusty. Where I am at, you have to call for a cab. Depending on how close a cab is, it usually takes 45 minutes to an hour. When I called the cab company and asked how much would the ride be, they said under $30. And I don't give tips to cab drivers. I think you're crazy if you do. The prices are already crazy, so forget about the tip. I'll give a tip to the person that cuts my hair for doing an excellent job and not for just doing an average job. Oh, and I didn't tell the guy to get the fuck out of here, until he said, don't try that shit again. You have my stuff in your car, not to mention an i.d. with my address on it, and we're in front of my house... Clearly the same address that was on the i.d. Try what stuff... Another person would have knocked him the fuck out.

And I'm not worried about anyone coming to my house to try anything. You have to go through a security gate first. And they won't let you in unless someone in the house says its alright.
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Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 02:45 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Your position about tipping is exactly why Black folks frequently don't get good service, everybody assumes we're all cheap and that we don't tip, so why bother. I tip anyone who provides me service and, trust me, I'm not hardly crazy.

As an example, the other day I drove over some debris and got a flat tire. I called for a tow truck because I'm not the type of female that's inclined to change a tire unless I absolutely have to. I tipped the tow truck driver $10 plus the tow fee. And at the repair shop, I tipped the mechanic who serviced my car another $10. It's not customary to tip these ppl, but I did that to show my appreciation for their help - not because I have extra money to throw around. My ass was stranded on the side of the road, the tow truck showed up in record time and I was up and running within an hour after getting to the repair shop - that meant a lot to me since I had to be somewhere.

If the cab company quoted you a flat rate, then you should have informed the driver of that and ensured that it was agreeable with him. Cab drivers are independent operators, the person who took your call couldn't say with certainty how much your fare would total - that was only an estimate. And unless you mentioned that tidbit to the cabbie, he had no way to know what the dispatcher told you.

Anyway, my posts are just my thoughts on the matter and my suggestions. How you conduct your business is entirely up to you.
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Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 03:50 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Actually, most of us would have just paid him what we owed him. I've never stiffed a cabbie, I can't speak for everyone else here. If you had a checkbook on you, I'm sure he would have taken the remainding 4 dollars in a check. And all of those times when I got a free cab ride, it was offered, I didn't ask.

Also, if he had received the amount for the fare, and you told him you didn't have anything for a tip, he probably would've just said "no problem" and not worried about it. To not get a tip is one thing...to not even get the full fare is somewhat offensive. I've OFTEN not had the money for a tip, but I ALWAYS paid the fare.
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Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 03:51 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Also, when I pay with a check, I make sure to include a tip just for their trouble.
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Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 04:11 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Bottom line: I don't excuse the cabbie's language at all. But keep in mind in the future, when you stiff someone on a service (never even mind the tip), they ARE going to get a somewhat sensitive.
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Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 04:47 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Saaaay, Edenson. Do you live in a gated estate???
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Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 05:34 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

paying by check to someone you don't know such as a cabbie is not always wise in this day and age. Your name and account number is sometimes all a person needs to access your account, steal your identity, etc.
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Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 08:19 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'ma tell you right now... I'da called him all kinds of niggers.... I prob'ly would have kicked his ass even, if I could. That's exactly how I would've felt after being short 4 Whole dollars.. especially if I had to drive a cab for a living. The only reason "nigger" should not have came out of that cab driver's mouth is he's not black. I can certainly understand how he must have felt, though; therefore, I think he had the right to call Edenson just about ANYTHING else.
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Posted on Wednesday, March 01, 2006 - 03:48 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You all act like the fare was ten dollars and I only gave him $7... I'm sorry, but I don't tip people for doing their job. I don't tip my doctor, I don't tip the mail man, I don't tip the cashier at Burger King, I don't tip the cable guy. These people already get paid for their jobs, unless they have gone out of their way to complete a requirment beyond their expectations, I don't see the need for a tip. Now maybe some people have money to waste on other people who are just doing their job, and that nice... but I just don't do that. A smile and a thank you better suit you just fine. Maybe if he didn't hastle me about giving him all of my stuff, maybe I just might have gone back and gotten his $4.

And I doubt that most drivers would take a check from anyone. I've never heard of that before. There are stores that won't accept checks let alone a cab driver who has no way of knowing if the name on the check is really yours, if you really have money in your account, and a lot of banks these days will charge your account if you try to cash a bounced check.

And yea, I live in a gated estate...
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Posted on Wednesday, March 01, 2006 - 05:14 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

There are cabbies who DO take checks, they've ALWAYS accepted it from me when I offer it. Or, if I notice the fare is getting high, I ask them to stop at an ATM machine.

But, here's two options to save you money and trouble the next time: call a friend, or take the bus.
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Posted on Wednesday, March 01, 2006 - 05:15 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I don't usually tip cabbies myself, unless I write them a check.
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Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 05:06 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Gee, Edenson, anybody who lives in a gated estate should have enough money for cab fare. The good news is that if you had had a ghetto address, the company wouldn't have even sent a cab for you. LOL! Sorry, slow day.

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