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Monster Balls
Bad news for race relations as Hollywood validates the not-so-subliminal desires of the white man for the black woman.

A white man kills a black man and shacks up with his victim’s black widow. That plotline, despite valiant efforts to be a salvation story for a hopelessly racist white southerner, is nevertheless the essential narrative arc of Monster’s Ball. It’s a story that, like many Hollywood films, ends up subconsciously transmitting the exact opposite of its purported message.

The viewer is supposed to have her faith restored for the hopes of a racially reconciled culture because, the film implies, if this dirty white bastard can be redeemed, then anyone can. Instead, by the film’s conclusion, the viewer comes to see just how stubborn, virulent, and resistant to social antibiotics the strain of racism really is in American culture—or at least how blind Hollywood writers can be both about states they’ve never visited and people they’ve only met in their imaginations. Monster Balls is the white man’s sexual burden for black women, a story so blatant and obvious you wouldn’t be surprised if the ACLU makes a lawsuit out of it.

blindingly bad men

Ku klux kliché.
First, count the clichés. The three male characters are Sonny, Buck, and Hank, three redneck names so trite, overused, and clichéd (not to mention redundant) they practically leap off the tongue of any do-good liberal concocting a story of southern racial prejudice.

And where does the story take place? Supposedly all in the same backwards town, which is never named. According to the film’s cues, though, it just happens to be—simultaneously!—in all three of the deep South’s most famously racist states. License plates and restaurants say “Georgia” on them. Leticia says her husband was executed in Jackson (a town in Mississippi), yet when the actual execution takes place, the prison guards are wearing Louisiana-shaped badges that say “Louisiana Department of Corrections” on them. Like the clichéd names of the main characters, these three states are easy whipping boys, straw men in straw states that our enlightened screenwriter proceeds to topple with seeming ease as the film progresses.

You may be wondering now why Alabama (“a Southern man don’t need him around,” as they famously replied to Neil Young) isn’t in the film, despite being as good a racist southern state as any. After all, Alabama is the only southern state that still uses the electric chair for executions (the only other state still using the chair is Nebraska), although all four of Alabama’s planned executions last year were halted by the higher courts. Perhaps its omission will give illumination to the film’s cultural, historic, and factual reliability, or lack thereof.


Two monsters eliminate the cultural restriction on their balls.
As propaganda, it’s brilliant. But those who claim to see the light are often most easily blinded by it, and Monster’s Ball seems completely unaware of its own complicity in perpetuating the racist status quo—not just in these states but across the entire country. In truth, Monster’s Ball is to race relations what Maxim magazine is to hardcore pornography: far worse precisely because it pretends to be the exact opposite of what it really is.

Second, consider what the phrase “monster’s ball” is actually intended to refer to: the night-before-execution party that jailers traditionally give to death row inmates. Not only do we never get to see this scene in the film, by implication it never even happens since Lawrence Musgrove is denied his final phone call as he walks his black mile.

Musgrove, played beautifully by Puff Daddy/P Diddy/Sean John/Sean Combs is, of course, guilty of nothing other than his blackness. When asked by his son why he is going away, Musgrove replies, “Because I’m a bad man,” just a typo away from the cultural claim that is explicitly being made here, which is, “Because I’m a black man.” By Puff Daddy’s brand extension, the entire rap music genre, with its glorification of sex and violence against the white man, is also an ersatz enemy that the film must eliminate.

alternative horrors
Third, consider an alternative version of the same story. Imagine that Oscar-winner Denzel Washington plays Hank, a racist death row prison guard, while Oscar-winner Julia Roberts plays Leticia, the single mother. Imagine, other than a race-reversal of the characters, the movie playing itself out exactly as scripted.

Pretty hard to picture, isn’t it? Such a film would horrify you.

You would be horrified in general because it would offend every sensibility you had. Specifically, you’d be horrified at how unequal the supposed love story is, which comprises a dominant male authority figure in full control over all the economic power in the story. You’d be horrified at how submissive a doormat the female lead is as she is forced, damsel-in-distress style, out of her own house and into the bedroom of her new “patron saint” with the line, “I really need someone to take care of me.”

And finally, you’d be horrified by the fact that Leticia’s self-esteem as a woman, and especially as a black woman (as the film actually shows it), is so incredibly low that on discovering the news that Hank is her husband’s executioner, she does not kill Hank, but continues to sublimate his psychosexual fantasies, which started with chocolate ice cream, then black coffee, and now, finally, a presumably unending feast of her own American chocolate pie.

The message the movie sends is clear: “Hey white men! If you’re going to sleep with black girls, then at least be decent enough to pay their rent, buy them a car, and name your businesses after them.” Listen to the background noise underlying this motif: Can you hear thirty years’ worth of white men whining about welfare mothers? Because the message is equally clear if you read it in reverse: “Hey white men! You’ve been subsidizing the rent on single black moms for a while. Now’s the time you saw some action in return for your favor. Think of it as the cultural return on your default black tax.”

digging the hole deeper
Talk about monster balls! This is easily the most racist movie to come out of Hollywood since Birth of a Nation. It’s almost as though the film is trying to offer the only possible justification for the welfare system that would appease the (shortsighted) angry white man: Kill the husbands, kill the male children, but leave the black female flesh for white men to consume.

In truth, the film is a sort of reverse fulfillment of all the white man’s fears after the emancipation proclamation. In Birth of a Nation, secret white societies like the KKK were organized allegedly to protect the white women of the South from being ravaged by the sexually insatiable black man. Little did whitey know then that the three brothers Ku, Klux, and Klan were simply doing what psychologists call “projecting” their worst fears about their own devious desires onto their darker-skinned cousins.

In recorded historical fact and observable truth, it is the white man who has had “monster balls” for the black woman ever since the earliest days of colonialism, slavery, and the founding of the country—from Thomas Jefferson on down. And it is this same sordid history of white sexual oppression of blacks that gave rise to the mulatto “problem” in American history, only considered a problem in the first place because in a racially segregated culture it revealed the white man’s guilt when biracial couplings produced a visibly darker offspring.

It is ironic that Ms. Berry, who is herself mulatto, would have no problem making such a film. Vanessa Williams, also a mulatto, turned down the lead role because of the full frontal nudity. For Ms. Berry—who said of her previous nudity, “Swordfish was exploitive, but so what?”—the double-whammy-mammy of blaxsexploitation has spelled only Oscar gold, so her “So what?” becomes largely rhetorical in her individual case. It is blacks and women at large who will be paying for years to come for the regressive steps she’s taken in this one film.

failing women
But the film isn’t simply bad for blacks. Like TV’s The Bachelor, Monster’s Ball sets progress for women back another fifty years.

On one hand, it says that these three southern states are terribly racist and all the police are just like Nazis, especially their uniforms and jackboots. On the other hand, it says that “****** juice” is pretty sweet and that “splitting the dark oak” is what makes you a man. This message is articulated in the character of Buck, father of Hank and grandfather of Sonny, three good old bubbas whose desire to rut indifferently and anonymously is made clear through the shared white hooker and the fact of the grandmother’s suicide—justified by grandpa with the line that “that woman failed me,” a reference, we subsequently learn, to her unwillingness to rut as frequently as the appropriately named Buck would have desired.

But the two real lynchpins of the film come in the character of the white prostitute played by Amber Rules and the flashed image of the caged bird during the Oscar-winning sex scene.

Rules plays a no-nonsense white hooker who provides her clients with exactly what they want: “a little late-night *****.” An absolute model of unrestrained capitalism’s chief requirement—efficiency—she wastes no time on small talk but simply walks in, removes her clothing, and bends over on the desk. She knows why she’s there and she knows what she’s worth, so she makes no bones about taking their money even if they can’t perform.

Her initial scene with Sonny is perhaps one of Hollywood’s most honest sex scenes because it reveals just how unsatisfying sex can be when stripped down to its raw mechanics. Both characters and audience experience the scene as more existentially painful than lemon juice in a raw wound, yet it is at least completely honest about its purposes. Poor Sonny, who kills himself in front of his father and grandfather, is quite aware of his life’s hypocrisy and his soul’s numbness. His suicide is almost a noble effort to put an end to the sins of his forefathers—while we in the audience are forced to watch Hank indulge his desires for the rest of the movie.

Marvin Gaye, call your office
Hank’s sexual desires, which we are supposed to believe change depending upon the race of the girl he’s with, go from anonymous and indifferent for cash to personal and caring—for cash. Maya Angelou knows why the caged bird sings. In her autobiography, she says Monster Balls made her do it too. According to the USA Weekend interview, Halle Berry understood her sex scene to be “about so much more than sex. It’s ‘without this I’m gonna die,’ not just, ‘I wanna feel good tonight’.”

This, which we can call the Marvin Gaye “Sexual Healing” rubric, is a favorite Hollywood scene-solving technique that says when two characters become inexplicably and unavoidably involved in each other’s life, the only way to justify it is to have them suddenly make the beast with two backs, thereby guaranteeing audience involvement just at the moment one would otherwise start thinking about leaving the theater and demanding a refund. Did you get hot and bothered? Did you then forget why these two were together in the first place? Good—the technique still works!

Interestingly, however, the cinematographer seems to have gotten a few quarter-second flashes of meaning into the scene. The caged bird isn’t singing here, she’s flapping, trying for all the world to get out. Is the black woman caged by the white man and trying to escape but incapable of doing so for economic and historic reasons? Only these few quarter seconds give the viewer any reason to imagine that someone on set might have been aware of the deeper implications of the overall story, and how sex was being used here to cement the traditional relationship of black women to white men. Then again, it could simply have been that the actual bird on set got hot and bothered watching the black Berry get Thorntoned by Billy Bob, and simply couldn’t sit still.

bad news of the world
But even if you take the movie with a bucket of salty popcorn and give it the benefit of its numerous self-produced doubts, Monster’s Ball is still pretty bleak news for race relations in America. The movie portrays the near-impossibility of blacks and whites having a successful relationship in contemporary culture. While attempting to show how true love conquers all, the script is nevertheless filled with so many contrived coincidences to bring these two unlikely and race-crossed lovers together that you can only walk away with the unintended but opposite message: In real life, not even a miracle could make this work.

As such, Monster’s Ball is a film that asks and answers only one question:

Question: When will blacks and whites get along together in America?

Answer: Never. Or rather, only when the white man can screw the black woman without any consequences whatsoever. And when will that happen, according to the film? Only when all the black men are dead and the black women are already half white, already measure up to the white beauty standard, and are so economically dependent (i.e., enslaved) that they have no real choice in the matter.

What’s that again? That the film unintentionally paints a more virulent picture of racism than the one it is intending to overcome. Only if the white man kills the black woman’s spouse, helps dispose of her dead black son’s body, and basically ensures that there are no other threatening black males around, such as the kids on his property that can only be frightened away with a shotgun blast, is he then free to “love” her. The love story works only if her spouse is killed by him (whose former spouse is already dead), only if his kid commits suicide while her kid gets hit by a car and dies, only if she gets evicted while he evicts his father, only if the state requests that he take her home, only if they get drunk together, only if he buys her a car, only if he already has a pre-existing predilection for chocolate ice cream and black coffee (not to mention a genetically inherited trait for “splitting dark oak”), only if she enslaves herself sexually to him by becoming completely economically dependent on his spiritual and physical welfare, confessing her helplessness both as black and as female by pleading that she “really needs someone to take care of me,” only if he pays substitutionary atonement by renaming his used car company after her—then, and only then, will these two truly be able to say, “I think we’re going to be all right.”

And of course, they won’t be all right. They’ll be anything but. She’ll wake up one day to the true nature of her plight and hopefully put a shotgun between his eyes, pull the trigger and say, “Did you feel that?”

In other words, it's a pretty terrifying time to be a black man or woman in either the Deep South or the Shallow North, but perhaps especially in the Vapid West where erotic fantasies are made to look like redemption and where racism, with just enough white light, can be made to look like reconciliation.

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Kola_boof
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Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 09:42 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I am certain that a Black man wrote this article.

As far as I am concerned, the Black man in America has COMPLETELY betrayed, abandoned and disrespected the Black woman in America, which is why I detest this kind of whining.

On a daily basis, we see Black men in every capacity of society choosing and placing the IMAGE of the White man's mother over the black woman.

Yet we're supposed to be upset that a White man created a fairytale in which he overcomes his racism, kills a black man (colorstruck sell out bastard Puff Daddy) and falls deeply in love with the black man's neglected beautiful BI-RACIAL wife.

I don't get it.

Why not attack BET or Flavor Flav's Show or Puff Diddy's t.v. talent competition?

Even Mos Def from this film...married a white woman.

So when it comes to "Monster's Ball".....

Why should black men care when (a) they hate black women anyway--because black women make you black and (b) they hate black children and would rather be off having mulatto offspring with Non-black women from the MUSIC VIDEOS they make on BET?

Shit-talkers like Bryant Gumble, Montel Williams and Kanye West ALL stalk, lust after and pamper WHITE WOMEN.

They've got Monster's Balls!

So why can't a White man?

And what really makes me resent this bullshit article is the fact that I have experienced more hateful, racist messages towards MY black skin...from black men....than from White men.

So what's the fucking point here?

Really.

I'm so sick of the weak, whining black woman-hating Black American man I don't know what to do.


I enjoyed "Monster's Ball"...especially after being inundated with BET all my life....and I was glad Halle Berry won the Oscar.

Now if only they could execute PUFF DIDDY in real life.






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Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 10:27 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm so OFF TOPIC here.... I dated a Somali guy once who looked so much like Montel Williams, they could be twins (only he had hair).

Sorry, your mentioning Montel just reminded me of him.

Anyways, I don't get it either, Kola. Black men will tell us TO OUR FACE they don't like Black women and they don't find us desirable at all ....is the writer just upset that in the movies white men won't treat us in a similar fashion?
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Black men of "all" phenotypes (-not do-, but) can find black women of "most" phenotypes quite attractive, and skin color (-a key phenotype component-) usually has absolutely nothing to do with it. Many black men tend to complain that it's the "tude" (i.e., attitude, pursed lips, glance at the sidewalk when passing by, etc.) that really turns them (-black men-) off. E.g., "so what are you lookin' at nigga"? (We'll, I wuz juz lookin' at you until you threw me the stare of "death"') Go figure? Another perspective. Hmmmm...
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Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 01:53 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

That's total bullshit Nels, and if anyone knows...it's chocolate African women like myself.

Black American men, especially, are acutely colorstruck. The younger they are, the more prejudiced they are against black women.

To the point that I consider THEM as big an enemy of our race as any white man.

Which is why I don't see the dilemna over "Monster's Ball".

In our reality, Black men ARE White men.

Both are committed to the destruction of black people.

MY GOAL and hope...is to breed a new black man. The authentic black man.

And to kill off and replace the niggers with him.






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Kola is right, the way black men treat black women is often as bad of whites. But I was turned off by Monster Ball and only watched maybe 45 mins or less. Probably because I've seen racist whites like that guy and couldn't imagine getting romantic with him - I've lived in the south before too. But the deal is that black men worship these white women who are just as racist as the men are. I feel mating with these whites is what's producing so many blacks with the same mentality that they have.
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That's total bullshit Nels, and if anyone knows...it's chocolate African women like myself.

Black American men, especially, are acutely colorstruck. The younger they are, the more prejudiced they are against black women.

To the point that I consider THEM as big an enemy of our race as any white man.

Which is why I don't see the dilemna over "Monster's Ball".

In our reality, Black men ARE White men.

Both are committed to the destruction of black people.

MY GOAL and hope...is to breed a new black man. The authentic black man.

And to kill off and replace the niggers with him."


THIS IS JUST KOLA'S WAY OF SAYING SHE WANTS A WHITE MAN, BUT SINCE SHE'S TOO FAT AND SELF-HATING, SHE WILL RANT ON AND ON ABOUT HOW NIGGER-MEN SUCK. IT'S ALL PURE POPPYCOCK. WOMEN WHO HAVE REAL MEN DON'T HAVE TO SIT HERE WHINING ABOUT THIS SHXX ALL THE TIME. SOMEBODY SERIOUSLY NEEDS TO GET A LIFE UP IN HERE.
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Oh please. If I want a white man, then why don't I have one?

And what do you mean I'm fat? I'm a size 8, soon to be a size 6.

Your problem, is that you're not used to a person being RESPONSIBLE for the entire village....and not just their personal happiness and achievements.

I'm a LEADER. And because of that, I'm concerned for the entire race and its direction.

And we need a new black man, which can only start from "WOMEN"......and we need to systematically destroy and kill the ones who are against our people and against black children.

That's what a LIONESS does.

She creates a world that is conducive to her children's well being. The males who exist there are the males who cherish her children and protect and feed THE CLAN.

I've been leading quite a life indeed.












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When I hear "It's not your problem, why do YOU care?"

I just tell them: "Because People like YOU don't!" :-)
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And Nels, I would wonder where guys who find so many women like that are actually looking for women. I'm 31, and I honestly don't know women with such attitudes. I'm sure they exist, but anyone who finds the MAJORITY of black women acting like that...let's just say I don't even see how it's possible unless they're in the projects...and I've lived in the projects and didn't even know such women there.

African AMERICAN men talk about how "bad" black american women are. Oddly, African (REAL Africans), Indian, and Pakistani men date and marry black american women (some date them exclusively) and don't seem to be finding these same women.
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Over the years, I haven't known HOW to explain this

---but I really like Halle Berry.

I just do.

Whenever her movies come out, I'm usually there on opening day, making Thomas and the boys get a ticket as well.

I've never been able to explain it. I just really like her.

As for the "movies" she's usually in---I detest the roles and the stories, and I definitely despise her constantly being snuggled with a White man as co-star. But I don't go to see the movie, I go to see Halle.








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kola, you are one very bitter woman spewing more than enough hate. I am a black man and I love black women. Actually I love all women, but for some reason nothing seems to be as all in all sweet and sexy as a black woman to me. As for complexion, there is no preference. It is the total package that makes the woman. I have been with complexions of all kinds, and favor none. The only time when favoritism may come in to play is with novelty. When you have been with a light skin woman for some time, curiousity naturally leads men to dark or brown skin, the same when you are with a dark skin woman. This has nothing to do with preference of complexion, but with the man's proclivity to pursue women and have something new and novel.

I know many men from entrepenurial millionaires, to whote collar professionals, to working class guys and teachers, to unemployed burnouts, and the same applies generally across the board.

It appears that you have had some very bad experiences in the past in order for you to label the black man as the "enemy" of the race.
I truly feel for you and wish you more happiness and solidarity in regards to relatios with your brothers.
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kola, you are one very bitter woman spewing more than enough hate. I am a black man and I love black women. Actually I love all women, but for some reason nothing seems to be as all in all sweet and sexy as a black woman to me. As for complexion, there is no preference. It is the total package that makes the woman. I have been with complexions of all kinds, and favor none. The only time when favoritism may come in to play is with novelty. When you have been with a light skin woman for some time, curiousity naturally leads men to dark or brown skin, the same when you are with a dark skin woman. This has nothing to do with preference of complexion, but with the man's proclivity to pursue women and have something new and novel.

I know many men from entrepenurial millionaires, to whote collar professionals, to working class guys and teachers, to unemployed burnouts, and the same applies generally across the board.

It appears that you have had some very bad experiences in the past in order for you to label the black man as the "enemy" of the race.
I truly feel for you and wish you more happiness and solidarity in regards to relatios with your brothers.


Okay Reggie if you love black women then what Kola is saying does not apply to you. Don't be upset just be the best black man that you can be to black women.
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REGGIE:

It appears that you have had some very bad experiences in the past in order for you to label the black man as the "enemy" of the race.


This is such bullshit.

I have had wonderful experiences with black men.

But YOU---calling yourself a black man---is UNABLE to understand that I'm a "Wombbearer".

Which means that I am responsible for seeing that my people (black people) get born again and come back into this world....as themselves.

It's a concept that none of you Black American men can understand. Because you're former slaves, you believe only in your slave master....and in 500 years, the only INNOVATION you're capable of....is chasing and impregnating the enemy races that have always planned our destruction.

Now, via your black loins, the destruction of our race is given to them.

My real problem here, is that I am not a nigger.

But surrounded by millions of them.

Why can't you STOP seeing me as a Black woman...and see me as an African and a STRATEGIST?

You're so fucking lost in your bullshit SELFISHNESS that you can't see that 70% of those black children who do get born are without fathers

...but since my children and I have a man...I'm not supposed to care.

So goes the TYPICAL THINKING of the Black American.

I should only care about myself, not the village.

You're some sick motherfuckers!! And I don't give a damn what you think about me.

I don't give a damn what ABM and Troy and the rest of the BLACK MEN around here think about me.

Your whole cock and brain is being CONQUERED by the White Male ....once again.....as we speak.

And all you can do is offer up bullshit polemics about me being "bitter" and "hurt".

FUCK KOLA!!!

What about our race?
What about black children?
What about the INTEGRITY of your ancestors!?

You motherfuckers can't tell me shit!!!

It's 500 years later and you're STILL sellout fucking losers who don't give a damn about anybody but yourselves!!!!

The WHITE MAN is the only man here, if you really want the fucking truth.












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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 08:54 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"The WHITE MAN is the only man here, if you really want the fucking truth."

It's easy to say that when you're going down on one in his office--how else can Kola get that book contract!? ;0)
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Kola_boof
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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 08:56 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ah.....no

My BLACK MALE agent is the one going down on the FEMALE editor in the office.

I guess.

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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 08:57 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And you keep fucking with me,

I'm going to start picking at ABM until he whoops YO ass.




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Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 09:58 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Wow, you are a piece of work. Telling me that i am a sellout and failure. Actually, I am successful, ultra-ethnic, with a tight knit unit family, successful intelligent, beautiful children, and what many may consider to be significant wealth. I have done very much in the support of my black brothers and sisters - a whole hell of a lot more than cursing them out and calling them nasty names. What have you done besides attack??? Seriously...

Maybe you should reduce the venom and try to find out what motivates those who you speak to so negatively - possibly even see things from their perspective. Most of all, don't cast aspersions upon those who you absolutely do not know - you never know who you are talking too. Widely cast stereotypes and generalizations don't tend to be very accurate either.

Hey, I love you anyway, Ma.
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Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 10:03 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Serenasailor

Exactly!!! It doesn't apply to me, but it was aimed directly at me when she attacked "black men," a group which I happen to proudly belong to. Your post should be directed at Kola, not at me.

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