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     Chrishayden "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Chrishayden Post Number: 8448 Registered: 03-2004 Rating: N/A |
Publisher's Weekly, December 14, 2009 http://www.publishersweekly.com/article/CA6711430.html | ||
| Yvettep AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Yvettep Post Number: 3776 Registered: 01-2005 Rating: N/A |
Thanks for the link, Chris. Interesting that the writer did not talk to or cite our very own Troy for the article. Troy, what's up with that? I am looking forward to several titles on the list--especially the following: The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks by Rebecca Skloot (Crown, Feb. 2010). A poor southern tobacco farmer, Lacks was diagnosed with cervical cancer in 1951 and died shortly afterwards, but her cancerous cells, taken without her family's knowledge, have provided the basis for critical and ongoing cancer research. To my knowledge, the author is not, herself, African American. However, this case of Henrietta Lacks (a Black woman) is one of the central cases in the bioethics field. Hopefully the case will, through the book, get much more mainstream exposure. | ||
| Troy AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Troy Post Number: 2081 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
Hey YvetteP. I just finished the article myself. Actually I wondered why Felicia did not reach out to me as well. She did however get a decent mix of folks from the small universe of Black professionals in the industry. You can;t include quotes from everyone. This is an annual article; and I've been interviewed for in previous years. Funny you should mention an anticipated book by a white author on a Black subject. Also on the list is The Making of African America: The Four Great Migrations by Ira Berlin (Jan 21, 2010 - Viking).  ...explores the transatlantic slave trade, the transcontinental slave trade, the movement from South to North, and the emigration to the U.S. of people of African descent from the Caribbean, Africa, Europe, and South America. I just got the book in the mail and started reading it right away. It sounds fascinating. | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 14479 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
The book you provided a link to, Troy, sounds like the type of non-fiction documentary book I am currently interested in reading. I'm especially interested in the first migration of Blacks to the Northern cities of America. My parents were both a part of this sojourn, my father, a Kansas farm boy, having arrived in Chicago in 1914, and my mother a Tennesse school girl coming 2 years later in 1916. They had some interesting tales to tell. | ||
| Troy AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Troy Post Number: 2082 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
Cynique, I can imagine. My parents are from North Carolina and Louisiana, arriving in the late 50's. I however was mostly interested in what is being called the last migration - the emigration of people from Africa and the Carribean. The cultures are very different. There are perhaps more differences between the so called "African-American" and Africans as there are bewteen "African-American" and an American white person (non-immigrant). New York City has been greatly effected by this migration. I would suspect a significant portion of Black folks, perhaps a majority (certainly in some neighborhoods) are immigrants or first generation immigrants from outside the US -- like our current president. It creates an interesting dynamic; when you have a group of folks who care as much about a Harriet Tubman as your typical African American might care about Kwame Nkrumah. It is also interesting to see Black folk from Africa and the Carribean take advantage (work hard and sacrifice) of opportunities here in the US that "African Americans" increasingly take for granted. They already dominate in corporate america (based upon my anecdotal experience). Indeed any advantabge of being in this country for generations is virtually meaningless... | ||
| Chrishayden "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Chrishayden Post Number: 8450 Registered: 03-2004 Rating: N/A |
It is also interesting to see Black folk from Africa and the Carribean take advantage (work hard and sacrifice) of opportunities here in the US that "African Americans" increasingly take for granted. (In light of the fact that our ancestors labored here 350 years for NOTHING (no not nada nothing) and then labored up until 40 years ago for PEANUTS (always paid far under their qualifications--WHEN they were allowed to get any I take exception to that statement. I suppose the opportunities here do look better to somebody from Darfur or Somalia or the DRC--look at what is going on there. And, as soon as those assholes get legal, they too refuse to take those jobs. REALLY, Troy! | ||
| Troy AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Troy Post Number: 2083 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
Chrishayden, I don;t think it is a function of "becoming legal". It is probably a fuinction of becoming "Americanized" and is not peciuuliar to Black people. The same thing tends to happen to all immigrants that become caught up in a sense of enititlement, and sloth that often accompanies it. I've seen Chinesse and Jewish people complain about the same things in their "communities". Maybe we (All Americans) should keep in mind that MOST of the world lives in poverty and can not afford to sit around and complain about how bad the NJ Nets and NY Giants have done this season... While, according to the media, our Black the boys are sent to prison and our Black daughters have little prospect of finding a decent mate -- defintely not a monogamous one (could not help but through that one in). | ||
| Chrishayden "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Chrishayden Post Number: 8453 Registered: 03-2004 Rating: N/A |
Chrishayden, I don;t think it is a function of "becoming legal". It is probably a fuinction of becoming "Americanized" and is not peciuuliar to Black people. (You assume they do not know the system, have not been told about it by prior immigrants and do not know how to work it. I see you utterly ignored my comments about what has been going on the last 500 years. Somebody waved a magic wand and all that was cured overnight and we are just suffering because we are shiftless and lazy-- "I've seen Chinesse and Jewish people complain about the same things in their "communities". " I ain't never heard it. I ain't never heard no white people say it, either. Maybe they don't say it to me. How about all them Hasidim up there in New York that don't work and draw social services and nobody saying a thing about it? I don't even understand young blacks. Forty years ago you couldn't even use the same TOILET as a white man, and you sit around, can't figure out why we are in the shape we are in. No Jew, Irishman, Chinese, or anybody else had to go to the Supreme Court to be able to sit in a crapper. Well, keep watching buddy. When they are through with Barry Obama it will be damn hard to deny. | ||
| Yvettep AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Yvettep Post Number: 3778 Registered: 01-2005 Rating: N/A |
This is an annual article; and I've been interviewed for in previous years. OK, Troy--just tryna look out for you! lol That book does sound interesting. I'm like many here in that my paternal grandparents followed a similar migration. But my maternal grandparents stayed down south. According to family lore my maternal grandfather almost got lynched for courting a White woman while traveling on the road with the big band he played violin for--in Indiana! All throughout the South the band had few problems, but that was not the case in southern Indiana. Supposedly the band members (others also had problems) swore they would never come back to Indiana. Decades later that is where my grandfather's daughter met the man with whom she'd have...me! Life's funny, huh. | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 14481 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
You get awfully carried away with your cliched rhetoric about what black people couldn't do 40 years ago, Chrishayden! In the first place, black people up north could use the same bathrooms as white people as far back as 75 years ago - or more! 40 years ago in 1970 the Jim Crow laws in the south were pretty much history. Up north during the 1950s the large numbers of Blacks who made up the Federal Civil Service labor force, earned the same wages as white people. I was one of them. These folks are who populated the growing black middleclass who you persist in dismissing when painting your tale of woe about why blacks are down and out. Somewhere along the way, a segment of the black population had their motivation neutralized by welfare programs, the brain child of well-meaning white liberals who were seeking to help the indigents. But as time passed, welfare created as many problems as it solved. It's time to stop placing all of the blame on slavery when it comes to the shape black folks are currently in. It ain't that simple. Nobody is forcing the underclasses to burden themselves with the broods of children they breed and neglect. This is the latter day culture of the ghetto. Yes, black immigrants who make up the last migration to American have a different history but they still experienced adversity which apparently made them stronger rather than weaker. | ||
| Troy AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Troy Post Number: 2084 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: |
Thanks you Cynique you saved me a some Keystrokes regarding Chris. Chris opinions on this one are what continue to hold African Americans back as they sit around and blame Mexicans, Senegalese, Ethiopians for taking jobs. Chris you should consider traveling, reading or even talking to people different than yourself. If you did, you'd learn that white Americans are concerned and complaining about many of the same things Afircan Americans complain about. They too believe immigrants are taking "their jobs" job and using up government resources while their own white brothers are stealing them blind and sending their children off to die in some foreign land. MOST of the houses foreclosed on were owned by white folks. Bernie Madoff stole from white people, the pensions lost by Enron where owned by white people. White folks suffered from Katrina too... White folks worry about their yound men being turned in Wiggers, wearing saggin pants and buying most of the gangster rap sold. Coincidently the NY Times Just published an Article: No Longer Majority Black Harlem Is in Transition "In greater Harlem, the black population peaked at 341,000 in 1950. The black share hit a high of 64 percent in 1970. In 2008, the comparable figures were 153,000 and 41 percent, respectively..." "...About 15 percent of Harlem’s black population is foreign-born, mostly from the Caribbean, with a growing proportion from Africa. This comes as no surprise as this is self evident through observation. But many of us don't recognize this because they don't read the newspaper or talk to other people. There is very little interaction between the African's and the African American's in Harlem. My brownstone, 5 levels, 4,000+ sq feet, is on the market too (serisouly). Anyone interested my contact me directly. That will be one less Negro in da' hood. It was owned in the early 20th century by a Jewish physician. Perhaps anotherwon will buy it "back"  Image Source: Ozier Muhammad/The New York Times Joshua Bauchner, with his 2-year-old daughter, Evlalia, on his front stoop on West 123rd Street in Harlem. |
