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     Troy AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Troy Post Number: 2072 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: |
Over the last few years I've seen many book trailers, most of them quite bad. The trailer for Booker T. Mattison's novel Unsigned Hype is simply the best one I've ever seen. I find it completely compeling, not too long and a great way to promote a book. Let me know what you think? | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2518 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: |
Well Troy, I have to admit that I have not seen many book trailers, so all I can say is this one wouldn't move me to buy that book. I am sure it's for a certain market but there's nothing gripping about that trailer or the authors reading. I mean, man, come on, read with a little passion or find another chapter to read. If this is selling, I am in the wrong business. | ||
| Troy AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Troy Post Number: 2073 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
Thanks for your opinion Carey. Obviously I disagree. Of course my statement is based upon viewing many book trailers. Carey while you admit you have not see many book trailers. Can you point to one that you actuqally like? Or do you dislike the whole concept of book trailers? What do you think is the best way to sell and promote a book? (nevermind I'm going to make this a question for a separate post) Quality of the trailer aside. Clearly the goal of the video is to get people to buy the book. Again, on this front, Booker's video does a great job particularily when compared to the other trailer I've viewed. Of course if one has no interest in the book's subject matter it would be a much harder sell. Plus personal reactions book trailers, book covers, banner ads, commericals are very individual. Over the last decade I've become a pretty good judge of book covers (based upon the ability to predict relative click through rates on book cover ads). Book Trailers are relatively new and it is harder to collect data to support my own opinions which is why I asked for feedback. It would be great to get more opinions. Side Bar for Carey: Do you give your own posts a star rating? | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 14440 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: |
I thought the book trailer was quite well-produced, Troy, - a very professionally executed effort utilizing visual techniques that, along with the personal touch provided by the author's input, effectively marketed the product. In addition, the unobtrustive voice-overs offered just enough information to make the viewerer want to learn more about the book, - which I would be interested in reading. **** | ||
| Libralind2 AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Libralind2 Post Number: 1262 Registered: 09-2004 Rating: N/A |
I voted for your post Ms Cynique because you answered the question..clear and concise liLi | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2519 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: |
Troy: "Can you point to one that you actuqally like? Or do you dislike the whole concept of book trailers" No Troy, I can not point to one that I actually like. But don't get me wrong, from the technical aspect, the trailer was well done. Yet, so was the trailer for the movie "Water World". I didn't mean to imply that it wasn't well done. On the whole trailer tip, of course it's a great idea. Many music CD's would be lost without their video counterpart. To be honest, I think a good trailer could sell a book, even if the book was garbage. However, then we might be back to "what's good"? If "good" is BET good, then naked ass and stupid niggas is the formula that may be missing from ol'boy's trailer. For real, think about it. This trailer in question did little, imo, to push that book. The voice-over was a good idea but his voice was wrong for the part. The gun was a good idea, but that's played. I mean, give me something that wakes my soul. Even the lines that were read, did not move me to want to read more. They actually exposed a writing style that may play into the belief that "those" types of books are inferior. Plus, the author's ending comments may have been preaching to the choir and not his market. I doubt if the readers of this genre are looking for words of wisdom. Again, the trailer idea is an excellent one, however, in reference to this trailer, I wonder who the author was trying to please? I see it grabbed you, Cynique and LiLi. Troy, over the 10 years that I've been visiting this board, I don't believe I've ever given myself a star. I mean, the star thang wasn't always around but giving stars is not my thang. Don't hold me to that but it's really not my cup of tea. You may have me mixed up with the queen of stars. We all know who that is. Shit, I think mine is worth 10 stars from the jump... who doesn't :-) So Mr. Sly Johnson, what was the point of your question? Let me help you. It appears you thought someone was wrong for assigning stars to my post. Is it possible that they agreed that the trailer lacked substance? | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 14441 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
Yes, Carey, this trailer grabbed me because it did what a trailer is supposed to do. It piqued interest. It was, after all, a trailer not a movie. I don't think anybody on this board makes a habit of giving themselves 5 stars. If people gave themselves 5 stars there wouldn't be all of these posts that just get one star because giving themself 5 stars would bring the star count up. And who is this queen of stars that we all know? You have the NERVE to call somebody "sly". Why don't you name names since you you seem to be in the know, while stating your opinion as fact. | ||
| Troy AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Troy Post Number: 2075 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
Carey, I asked about the start thing, becuase it just struck me as odd that my first post would get 1 star, while yours, seemingly simultaneously, and by the same person would get 5. The post did not even seem significant enough to be to even be worth rating. I assumed that the 1 star rating was associated to what I wrote rather than being an assessment of Booker's book trailer. But again only the rater would know. Cynique, thanks for your feedback. | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 14444 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
I must confess that I am very often surprised when a post of mine gets 5 stars and this has caused me to wonder if there is a lurker out there who is on my wave length. | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2520 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: |
Cynique: "I don't think anybody on this board makes a habit of giving themselves 5 stars. If people gave themselves 5 stars there wouldn't be all of these posts that just get one star because giving themself 5 stars would bring the star count up. And who is this queen of stars that we all know? You have the NERVE to call somebody "sly". Why don't you name names since you you seem to be in the know, while stating your opinion as fact" But see, Cynique, it appears that you missed something. Then again, maybe you didn't. You mentioned 5 stars, I nor Troy, did the same. You also said "makes a habit". Your statement appears to be a back door. I don't think I have to explain that. Okay, thanks for correcting me. I did say "we all know" and that was wrong of me. It's a good bet that most visitors can narrow the list. Correct me if I am wrong, but do YOU think your name would be somewhere in the mix? How's that? I am only asking because you raised your hand. You know a fox smells it's own hole. Lets turn an opinion into a fact. Right are wrong, I believe you've dropped a few stars in all the wrong places. Now tell me I am wrong. Tell me I am wrong... with a straight face. Btw, "it was, after all, a trailer not a movie" AND? A resounding SO WHAT? | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2521 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: |
Troy wrote: "The post did not even seem significant enough to be to even be worth rating. I assumed that the 1 star rating was associated to what I wrote rather than being an assessment of Booker's book trailer. But again only the rater would know" Troy, I agree, your post was just your opinion. So I can only assume that the rater, must have vehemently disagreed with your opinion that the trailer was the best of all time. But again, it's your opinion so "I" wouldn't object to that. Hell, I voiced my opinion. It appears many people use the star thang as an attack. They seem to lack the skills to voice their objections, so their lazy ass throws up a star. There is however a place for the stars. Some don't want to argue but yet they desire to champion a point. But man, to imply that I would give you 1 star while giving myself 5 stars was a low blow. Especially for those types of comments. I have no problem voicing my objections. None at all. I have no fear of feedback or haters. In short, I knew what you were trying to say, and I am pleased that you came back and explained your question. ChrisHayden said you might gain a little knowledge by going to playah school. I agree. You're a good man, a smart man, but you could use a little glide in your stride *lol* | ||
| Yvettep AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Yvettep Post Number: 3761 Registered: 01-2005 Rating: |
I don't like the idea of "trailers" for books. Heck, I barely like them for movies--nowadays trailers give away too much of the plot. A lot of times I feel, after I have watched a trailer, that I have no need to spend money on the actual film. With regard to books, I'd rather authors/publishers offer a free print chapter on line or as an iPhone download or something. | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 14445 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: |
What you need to be corrected about, Carey, is talking what you don't know and have no proof of. Your paranoid suspicions carry no weight so you need stfu. For somebody who claims not to be into the star thing, you pay an awful lot of attention to them. And, again, you have the NERVE to call Troy's remark a "low blow" but, of course, your insinuations are above board. Puleeze. You're full of it. As for the trailer not being a movie, since it isn't, it should not be subjected to the scruntiny that is given a movie, especially by a hack like you who is admittedly not familiar with the book trailer genre. | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 14446 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
I'd rather watch a 5-minute book trailer than to have to plow my way through a chapter from a book that may not be interesting. | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2523 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
Yvettep, I agree, some trailers give away to much of the movie. In this day and age, I think the idea behind trailers, is directed at the instant access crowd. Blow up car or show a little nudity and the viewer is hungry to see more. I refuse to watch a trailer of a movie I plan to watch. That reminds me, I was watching a rented movie and the thang would not allow me to skip forward past the previews. I could fast forward but the old "stop hand" came up when I wanted to go directly to the movie. Cynique wrote: "As for the trailer not being a movie, since it isn't, it should not be subjected to the scruntiny that is given a movie" My Cynique, you are again, woefully wrong. They may not require the exact scruntiny of a movie, but their purpose and goal should be/is the same! Consequently, I would think they should be open to the same critical review. Pick out a book or pick up a movie, they are both forms of entertainment, correct? The best way to draw a crowd to your product, should be of utmost importance. Do you have a hard time saying you may be wrong? | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 14447 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
I don't consider your answer proof that I am wrong. Especially since your conclusion was full of non sequitors. You admitted that the trailer the trailer was well done but - you didn't like it. I thought the trailer was effective and just because you didn't, doesn't prove that you were right. All a trailer is required to do is to generate interest so all of the superflous gripes you voiced were irrelevant. Bottom line is that this trailer commanded your attention. | ||
| Carey AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Carey Post Number: 2525 Registered: 05-2004 Rating: N/A |
Okay, we're done. | ||
| Troy AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Troy Post Number: 2077 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
Trailers are a form of advertising that use a variety of tactics to get someone to pay to see a movie. This is a completely different beast than the actual movie. A movie's goal, typically, is to entertain and/or inform. Trailers can be entertaining -- sometimes more entertaining than the actual movie -- but again the trailer's goal is to get you to pay to see the entire flick. Promoters use print, and video to promote movies both formats appeal diffrently to different type of people. Similairly, I think it is smart for people who promote books to use print and video too. I've created some videos myself for this purpose. None of what I've done however can touch Booker's Trailer. My videos were decent 'cause there was very little else out there that was any good. Carey I don't think believing you might give me 1 star for a post while given yourself 5 is a low blow. I would take more issue with what you write about my opinions than your star rankings. :-) I was just curious tis all. | ||
| Yvettep AALBC .com Platinum Poster Username: Yvettep Post Number: 3763 Registered: 01-2005 Rating: |
I finally looked at this "trailer." It seems to be as much a mini-interview with the author and mini book reading than the type of trailers I associate with movies. I agree it is well done. I also agree that I am no more inclined to read the book than I would have otherwise--say, from reading the inside book jacket or something. Perhaps it is just me, but still the main things that will make me want to read a book is an intriguing review and a recommendation from a friend or close associate whose opinions about books I respect. Incidentally, the review does not necessarily have to be "positive"--just interesting enough to pique my interest, perhaps as a challenge to see if I agree with a negative "professional" assessment. | ||
| Chrishayden "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Chrishayden Post Number: 8428 Registered: 03-2004 Rating: N/A |
I don't know because for some reason it kept sticking--wouldn't play. maybe my server or something. I would never buy or get a book from a trailer. I might be interested enough to take a look at it when I was in the bookstore or library. I would never buy a book off the web either. I have to be able to leaf back and forth, I usually read some of the first chapter, something out the middle, the last page, and make a decision from there-- | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 14449 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: |
Like Troy says, a book trailer is just one of the methods used to sell books. It's not the "end-all-be-all" in deciding whether or not you want to read what it is selling. I still think you can tell a lot about a book from a visual promotion of it. Which is to say that a trailer may also help you determine that you don't want to read the book it is touting. |
