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Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009 - 09:53 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hello All,

Precious: Based on the Novel Push has gotten 3 Golden Globe nominations: Best Drama, Best Actress - Gabby Siobert(sp), Best Supporting Actress - Mo'Nique. Carey, how can the movie get a Best Picture nod, but Lee Daniels did not get a Best Director nod for the movie? Now, lets see how this turn.
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Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009 - 05:50 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thump, I don't understand it either. I hate to play the race card but doesn't this smell like a Spelburg rerun?

BEST ACTRESS... Gabby?! That's a joke. Imo, she didn't have to do much acting.

This is mess [director], because in my opinion, the director's role is huge, especially in a movie like Precious. But wasn't there some controversy over who really directed this film?

I haven't look at the nominations but I did see Julia & Julia. Glenn Close nailed that part but the movie got on my nerves. Hell, even "Julia" got on my nerve with that voice. In fact, I didn't watch the whole movie. Three quarters of the way trough.... and I was done. It was too predictable and never grabbed me.

Have you seen Public Enemies? I have.

Hey, there's this movie that came out this year, it's called Hurricane, (not boxing movie) have you seen it. I have not.


Personally, I didn't think Precious deserved a nod. Well, maybe I should modify that opinion. I mean, I don't know what movies it's up against, but overall it wouldn't qualify as an Oscar type movie (I'm hard on movies). It was a good movie but I was more entralled by the acting.
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Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009 - 08:09 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hello All,

Carey: I have to disagree with you. Precious does deserve the nominations. Gabby did a superb job. She had a lot of acting to do, it was all in her face. She do a hellified better job that what Holly Hunter did in The Piano, making all those goofy as_ faces!

Second, I know my Ol' Grayhead is getting up in years when he don't know his actresses. Glenn Close was NOT in Julia/Julia, that was MERYL STREEP!!

Mixing up Glenn Close with Meryl Streep, it's time for you to sit out this movie season, get some rest, relax, find a hobby and get back with me next season. Glenn/Meryl?? I have a mind to pull your credentials over that one!
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Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009 - 11:13 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh Lawd, I blew that one. And man, I was wondering why I couldn't find a movie I was looking for under "Glenn Close". I was locked in stupid for about a week. I had even told myself that Google didn't know what the hell it was talking about *lol*. Yep, I was looking under the filmology of Glenn Close and I couldn't find that movie.

Tell me, I was looking for a movie in which the actress got caught-up with this guy in a southern town. I believe it was in the swamps of florida. She was an older woman, and the guy turned her on to a drug or a plant, that acted as an afrodissiac. I remember the movie opening with a car wreck? It was a fairly violent scene. I think the woman was a reporter or something like that? Who is the actress, and what was the name of the movie.

But Thump, can I keep my card? I mean, can a man make a mistake.

But my positions stand. As I said, I didn't see the rest of the nominations, but I just wasn't head over hills about Precious.

So it was in Gabby's face? I hear what you are saying and maybe if I had seen her in other performances, I could appreciate how far she had to stretch.

Oh, I still did not like Julia & Julia... **Sticking out tongue**

Glenn/Meryl/Darryl, it was slow and it sucked.
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Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2009 - 10:17 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"So it was in Gabby's face? I hear what you are saying and maybe if I had seen her in other performances, I could appreciate how far she had to stretch."

I said this before about her not getting an Oscar nomination. Everybody is looking at this woman, and saying--she's fat, she' dark skinned--of course she's not acting.

She has to be good to make it look like she is what she is playing--here is some race and colorist and weight issues out there--what can you do?

It's just like Idris Alba. People look at him and figure he talks like Stringer Bell. He's British--his natural voice is British accented (so is the actor who played McNulty)

Do you think the people who made this movie would get a real retarded ghettoite to play the part?

Of course she is acting. Doing a bang up job"
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Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2009 - 11:03 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Chris, I did NOT say she wasn't acting. You implied that I thought/believe she was just being herself. Move away from that dumb shit.

I said I didn't see her stretch out. That's what I said.

Yes, her facial expressions told a story. However, the emotions the director was trying to deliver, were helped by the off camera narrative voice. That's an aid to the actor. That "voice" might have taken 50 takes. AND, it was laid over the scene.

When we factor in all the elements that move humans, one has only to reach inside oneself. Since we have touch, smell, sight, taste and hearing, when a group of thosse senses are brought together at one time, the message or intended messages are recieved with more clarity.

This may be a little to deep for many to catch, but check it out. To illustrate my point on a primary level, turn off the sound to your television and then see what information you lose. Pinch your nose and see if your coffee or beer tastes the same. Cover your face and have a conversation with another person.

Schools out.
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Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2009 - 11:35 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I said I didn't see her stretch out. That's what I said.


"What did you want, the sililoquy from Hamlet? She was playing a mentally regressed girl. How the hell was she supposed to stretch out? Wouldn't that have defeated the whole thing?"
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Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2009 - 12:47 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You're missing the point. In every walk of life, or situations we may find oursleves in, our range of emotions are numerous. It's safe to say that today, you have experienced 50+ emotions.

Anger and outbursts are secondary emotions.

Sometimes... sometimes "thought", which leads to an action, requires a deeper level of exploration. Sometimes... sometimes we become lazy, and consequently, speak before we really know what we are talking about.


School's out again.
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Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2009 - 01:08 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Has anybody seen Gaby being interviewed on TV?? OMG, she talks like a teen-aged white girl from Beverly Hills. Like, - awesome. Her persona is nothing at all like the character she portrays. She had to do some acting to give the convincing performance she did.

I'm sure she will get an Oscar nomination, but I don't think she will win because she hasn't paid enough dues to beat out seasoned veterans for an Oscar or a Golden Globe. But - she could win by an upset.
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Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2009 - 05:27 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thump, I see why Lee Daniels got locked out. He was up against a few formidable foes.

KATHRYN BIGELOW
THE HURT LOCKER

JAMES CAMERON
AVATAR

CLINT EASTWOOD
INVICTUS

JASON REITMAN
UP IN THE AIR

QUENTIN TARANTINO
INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS
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Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2009 - 06:42 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Pretty soon Precious will be de-rigeur viewing for all recruits into the Republican Party, the German SPD, Berlusconis Italian right wingnuts, and all neo-fascist wackjob rightists worldwide for information on "black America". This Perils of Pauline tearjerker is even more convincing than the Birth of a Nation.
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Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 07:12 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yes, Cynique, I heard her the other day! She is a real Valley Girl! LOL

Well, it's holiday time and in my extended kin we are looking for a movie we can all (3 generations) see as a family. Of course I'm the one dragging down the rest of the clan with all my hypercritical commentary on each possibility. I've already nixed The Blind Side and Invictus. Precious, I do not think is a family-type film.

We may do Princess and the Frog, tho my kids have already seen it. Or Avatar. Or, just stay home this year. :-)
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Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 10:25 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Pretty soon Precious will be de-rigeur viewing for all recruits into the Republican Party, the German SPD, Berlusconis Italian right wingnuts, and all neo-fascist wackjob rightists worldwide for information on "black America". This Perils of Pauline tearjerker is even more convincing than the Birth of a Nation.

(They don't need that. They got Obama. They got that Black guy or woman who got that job they wanted or had the temerity to move in next door. They got Skip Gates. They got all you Negroes who though cuz you got a degree and a suit and a nice car you got a pass--

This is the Word

YOU are what they hate. They hate you more than that Negro on the screen or that Negro on the corner because they can handle him.

They got Tiger Woods. They got OJ.

500 years in this country and Negroes still don't know how it operate--but they are learning. And they WILL learn.
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Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 10:29 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Has anybody seen Gaby being interviewed on TV?? OMG, she talks like a teen-aged white girl from Beverly Hills. Like, - awesome. Her persona is nothing at all like the character she portrays. She had to do some acting to give the convincing performance she did.

(This is what I been tryin to say. I have been around acting, actors, directors. They got a rule. You always cast against type.

You never get an alchoholic to PLAY an alchoholic. They will do it all wrong. You never get a bad guy to play a bad guy, a thug to play a thug, a saint to play a saint, and on and on.

A woman who was really like Precious would never be able to do it. But I'm sure everybody thinks she is just like that because of her size and dark skin.

She is playing a "troubled teen" in some tv movie--she should move away from those roles quick before she is hopelessly typecast)
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Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 11:40 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Ava DuVernay | Tilane Jones
The DuVernay Agency
818.995.0050

AFRICAN-AMERICAN FILM CRITICS ASSOCIATION
SELECTS “PRECIOUS” AS TOP FILM OF 2009

Organization Will Present Awards at First Annual Live Event

Los Angeles, CA (December 14, 2009) – The African-American Film Critics Association (AAFCA) has named “Precious” as the Best Picture of 2009. Directed by Lee Daniels, the Lionsgate release captured a majority vote by the organization, which is comprised of African-American media professionals from across the nation. Founded in 2003, AAFCA will present this year’s honors at its first live event tonight, Monday, December 14, 2009, at the historic Ebony Repertory Theatre in Los Angeles.

Morgan Freeman was selected as Best Actor 2009 for “Invictus.” Nicole Beharie earned AAFCA recognition as Best Actress 2009 for “American Violet.” With the first unanimous vote in an acting category in the organization’s history, Mo’Nique was selected Best Supporting Actress for “Precious.” Anthony Mackie earned Best Supporting Actor recognition for his performance in “The Hurt Locker.” Lee Daniels was named Best Director for “Precious,” with a tie for Best Screenplay between Ron Clements, Rob Edwards, John Musker for "The Princess & The Frog" and Geoffrey Fletcher for "Precious."

“In 2009, the film community produced a dazzling array of performances from African-American talent both in front of and behind the camera,” states Gil Robertson IV, AAFCA Co-Founder. “This year’s selections give a strong indication that the film community is becoming more committed to a wider range of stories that entertain and educate.”

AAFCA bestows Special Achievement Award to Michael Jackson, whose seminal film “This Is It” captured a lifetime of exemplary creative expression.

The organization’s Top Ten list of film honors includes “Up In The Air,” “The Hurt Locker” and “Good Hair.” “The films selected for 2009 reflect a fascinating combination of work that both entertains and addresses themes and issues of cultural importance,” remarks AAFCA President, Wilson Morales, editor of Blackfilm.com.

A complete list follows.

AAFCA 2009 Film Selections

The African-American Film Critics Association’s Top Ten Films of 2009 are as follows in order of distinction:

1. Precious
2. The Princess and The Frog
3. Up In The Air
4. The Hurt Locker
5 This Is It
6. American Violet
7. Goodbye Solo
8. Medicine for Melancholy
9. Good Hair
10. Up

Best Actor - Morgan Freeman, “Invictus”
Best Actress - Nicole Beharie, “American Violet”
Best Supporting Actress - Mo’Nique, “Precious”
Best Supporting Actor - Anthony Mackie. “The Hurt Locker”
Best Director - Lee Daniels, “Precious”
Best Screenplay (tie) -
Geoffrey Fletcher, "Precious"
R. Clements, R. Edwards, J. Musker, "The Princess & The Frog"
Special Achievement - Michael Jackson

About AAFCA
The African American Film Critics Association (AAFCA) is the only organization of African American film media professional. Founded in 2003, AAFCA’s members represent a geographically diverse cross-section of media covering the cinematic arts. The organization honors excellence in cinema by creating awareness for films with universal appeal to black communities, while emphasizing film about the black experience and those produced, written, directed and starring performers of African descent. The association actively reviews the quality and standard of black talent, content and media coverage. AAFCA also supports the development of future black film critics and filmmakers. AAFCA is based in Los Angeles.


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Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 11:44 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have not seen any of these movies, but I never agree with their selections. I had zero interest in seeing Precious, but I will see it on DVD when it comes out as I have to see Monique performance as it has been hyped so much.

The next mvide I see with be Avatar in 3D Imax -- Yeah Baby!

Cynique, how do you know that Gabbie interview on TV was not acting? I guess either way she must be a good actress -- nevermind...
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"Cynique, how do you know that Gabbie interview on TV was not acting? I guess either way she must be a good actress -- nevermind..."

Good point Troy. I don't know if Cynique was saying or implying that Gabbie was far removed from the character she played, but I also wondered how the interviewed person, relates to the core of "the real person".

Not that it down plays her performance or hypes it, I was just wonder ....
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1. Precious
2. The Princess and The Frog
3. Up In The Air
4. The Hurt Locker
5 This Is It
6. American Violet
7. Goodbye Solo
8. Medicine for Melancholy
9. Good Hair
10. Up

I've seen them all. I have a few problems with the selections.
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Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 02:28 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh, Puleeze. Why make something simple so complicated.

I saw Gabby when she appeared as a guest on the David Letterman show. She said she was a second- generation African born and raised in New York City, had attended regular schools where her upbeat personality earned her popularity among her classmates, and was attending college to become a teacher like her mother when she auditioned for the role of Precious and, much to her surprise, got it. She acted nothing like Precious but like a typical bougie black girl. She came across the same way in her interviews on the "Today" and "Extra" shows. OK?
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Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 04:33 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Who made it complicated? It was just a question. We didn't see the interview and you did. Not complicated at all.
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Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 05:47 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It was complicated by your wondering "how the interviewed person, relates to the core of "the real person"." - whatever that means.

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