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Posted on Saturday, July 11, 2009 - 11:32 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

http://newpittsburghcourieronline.com/articlelive/articles/45208/1/CommentaryTho ughts-for-and-about-Michael/Page1.html
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A very obligatory piece. IMO, Michael Jackson is not about being a misguided black man, influenced by the white dominant culture. He was a psyhchologically dyfunctional individual whose talent probably sprung from the same matrix as his lunacy. He and his brothers were raised in the same environment and none of them turned out like him. Don't dress it all up and blame Michael on society. Blame it on the fact that, like all genuises, insanity tainted his tortured soul.
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Posted on Saturday, July 11, 2009 - 02:49 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

They say the sky’s the limit
And to me that’s really true
But, my friend, you have seen nothin’
Just wait ‘til I get through

—Michael Jackson, Bad, 1987

Kinda eerie, ain't it?
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Don't dress it all up and blame Michael on society

"But why did his insanity choose to manifest itself in this quest for whiteness?

Did he become unbalaced after reading Melville's "Moby Dick"? Did he, like Capt Ahab, lust after the Whiteness of the Whale?"
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Michael was more about capturing his lost childhood than about escaping his blackness. His quest for whiteness was a part of his make-believe mind-set.
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Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 11:29 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Good assessment, Cynique. "Capturing," "creating" whole-cloth--whatever. But he did seem to be about that fantasy at least as much as any "anti-blackness"...

I can;t wait for the first post-MJ-death PhD dissertations to come out! LOL
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Posted on Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 10:40 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

His quest for whiteness was a part of his make-believe mind-set.

"But why whiteness? Why pretend to be white, knowing all the baggage this is going to carry with you.

Let me tell you, although Black folk seemed to accept him as white (?) the only white folks who did were those junior pedophiles that formed the backbone of his Jacko Nation.

The man was sick. He didn't want to be black. Fine. I seen all those niggas lined up by his casket was sposed to be his family.

And then how about all you Jackomaniacs, trying to recapture the "Black Angel Good Michael" ressurecting all those old photos.

You shot yourselves in the foot.

All the youngsters were saying, Who dat? Dat ain't Michael jackson. Then you had to explain how he reguarly doused hiself in acid trying to look white.

Shameful.

All his success was useless to him.
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Posted on Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 11:12 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Stop predicating your arguments on false assmuptions, chrishayden. Black folks did NOT accept Michael Jackson as white. They complained about how he had bleached his skin all of the time! YOU just didn't hear it, because you were watching the 3 Stooges or had your nose stuck in a comic book.

In Michael's make-believe world, whiteness didn't "carry baggage"! With his child like mentality, whiteness would make him live happily ever after. Which is why nobody on this board disputes that he was emotionally dysfunctional.

Now that he's gone, grown ups don't have to apologize to youngsters for how Michael transformed himself. All they ever have to say is that no matter how MJ looked his music was great. Nuff said.
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Posted on Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 11:20 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

All they ever have to say is that no matter how MJ looked his music was great.

"I knew another guy who really could cartoon. Sit down and draw any character you want cold. He was eventually executed for the murders of several old folks--killed them and took their money and food. Thought they didn't need to live. Showed freezers full of the stolen food to his cousins. Told 'em where he'd got it. Dead folks food as good as any.

I bet you think we should put out a book of his drawings. Praise him to the skies.

He was a helluva cartoonist...
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Another lousy analogy. Your whole premise is based on character assassination. Michael Jackson was acquitted of the charges brought against him because they could not be proven and cases have been made that he himself was the victim of extortion. He was adored by his children and defended by his friends. He was victimized by predators and imprisoned by his own demons but nobody has ever accused him of being a malicious monster; only a pathetic neurotic - who made great music. Fondling and cuddling with young boys is one thing, but it has never been hinted at or leaked that MJ was penetrating the anuses of young boys. There are degrees of pedophilia and close observers say MJ was actually asexual, if anything.
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Posted on Sunday, July 19, 2009 - 09:41 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hey Chris, because I like you so much I decided to kick your week off right...

The Top 10 Bestselling albums this week all belong to (drum roll) Michael muthaphukkin Jackson!

No one, Black or White, young or old, tall or short, fat or thin, dead or alive - NO ONE - has ever accomplished that; not Elvis, not The Beatles, not The Rolling Stones, not Sinatra, not Bing Crosby - no one! Go 'head, Mike. Setting records from the grave.

1. Michael Jackson, "Number Ones"
2. Michael Jackson, "Thriller"
3. Michael Jackson, "The Essential Michael Jackson"
4. Michael Jackson, "Off the Wall"
5. Michael Jackson, "Bad"
6. Michael Jackson, "Dangerous"
7. The Jackson 5, "The Ultimate Collection"
8. The Jackson 5, "Best of Jackson 5: 20th Century Masters, The Millenium Collection"
9. Michael Jackson, "Greatest Hits: HIStory - Volume 1"
10. Michael Jackson, "HIStory: Past, Present and Future Book 1"

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/charts/chart_display.jsp?g=Albums&f=Top+Pop+Catal og

I wanted to post this here for posterity's sake because people will be so busy talking about the pills, the injections, the cosmetic surgeries, the allegations, the settlement, the trial, the eccentricities, the custody battle, the kids ain't his, how he pissed away a billion-dollar fortune, and just dogging the man in general, that this RECORD BREAKING FACT will mostly go overlooked.

Here is my favorite tribute to Michael Jackson:

Stephen King Pays Homage to Michael Jackson
Entertainment Weekly, Special Tribute Issue, July 10, 2009

Sixteen years ago, the King of Pop called the King of Horror with an idea: What if they paired up to make the scariest music video ever?

“One day during preproduction, I was in on a conference call about the choreography, and Michael fell asleep. On another occasion, he called my wife, wanting the phone number for wherever I was that day. She gave it to him. Michael called back five minutes later, on the verge of tears. He hadn’t had a pencil, he said, so he’d tried to write the number on the carpet with his finger, and he couldn’t read it. My wife gave him the number again. Michael thanked her profusely…but never called me.

"The video contains some of the best, most inspired dancing of Jackson’s career. If you look at it, I think you’ll see why Fred Astaire called Jackson ‘a helluva mover.’ You’ll also see Jackson’s sadness and almost painful desire to please. Yes, I am strange, his eyes say, but I am doing the best I can, and I want to make you happy. Is that so bad? This is a sadness that’s all too common in people who possess talent in amounts so great it has become a burden instead of a blessing. Despite being extraordinarily beautiful (although he had probably already begun the elective surgeries that would ruin those amazing looks), Jackson was painfully shy, and difficult (sometimes impossible) to talk to, but watching that old video still makes me happy…and no, that’s not bad.

"It’s worth noting that he was never convicted of anything in criminal court, and when I asked Mick—who hung out with Michael occasionally—he was emphatic in his belief that Michael Jackson was indeed innocent of the abuse allegations. In the court of public opinion, however, he was found guilty of Weirdness in the First Degree, and ended up secluded in one haunted castle after another. Finally, he died in one. Strange man. Lost man. And not unique in his passing. Like James Dean, Elvis Presley, Kurt Cobain, Heath Ledger, and a dozen others we could name, he just left the building far too soon. Because, man oh man, that guy could dance.”

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