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Cagedbird
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Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 11:20 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Great job, Carey. Thanks 4 sharing!
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Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 01:53 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Have I missed something? What is this demo tape for, Carey?? I must say that when it comes to the subject of yourself, you do have the gift of gab.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 10:49 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cynique, that was just another adventure I am pursuring. I don't know if I should take your post as a compliment or not. But, thank you anyway because that is what I do ...gab about myself. Not exactly in that fashion, that was very restrictive in that I was trying to sell myself. I don't like working from a script. What leaves the heart finds another's. I don't know if that clip conveyed that.
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Carey,

I'm really pissed you took the clip down.

You can't be a weakling and be in this
business, King.

You looked HANDSOME as hell in that clip
and much younger than your years.

I appreciated what you had to say.

SO WHAT if it was all about you--that's
what I was interested in hearing about
...YOU.

Don't ever be intimidated by people, Carey
--EVER.

Whenever people try to tell you that you
can't do something----Kick their fukckk'n asses!

God knows I've kicked everyone's ass on this
board that ever attacked me(except ABM's).
And that's because he was my favorite
attacker.

(NOTE to RIFF-FAFF: I won't be back to
argue with those attackers who would claim
that I haven't kicked their asses on this
board. CAREY knows the SCORE and I'm too
busy to respond to your jealous chicken
scratch.)

Carey, my love,

You need to put that clip back up and
continue with your first thought and
your first expectations.

You're absolutely GREAT.

And no matter who says what.

Trust me--eventually you'll win.

I really believe in you.












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Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 02:41 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola, did you get my emails?
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Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 09:38 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Carey:

That's YOU in that clip!! *wink* Kudos! And you found your ending, I see. ;-)

You are wearing that suit, f'real!

I wish you much success. When will you hear back from the producers?
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Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 10:13 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hello All,

Carey: Who's da man in the clip? *eyebrow raised* I done seen pictures of you before...so who's da man in the clip?
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Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 10:28 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hello

Thump, I am going to throw one back at you, "don't hate me cuz you ain't me" *LOL*

Stop it. Now you got people thinking that ain't me. What pictures are you talking about? I got that same response from someone else on the board. What did you see, my mug shot. She said it sounded like me but didn't look like me. I don't know how to take that. Maybe it's just like my suit. As I've mentioned, it was black but came out looking like I borrowed it from Prince. Another one said I looked like Steve Harvey. I don't know how to take that one either.

Stop it Thump, you're killing me.
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Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 10:34 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I bet you didn't know I played the piano *lol*.

LOL, nothing surprises me about you anymore, Carey.

And you're most welcome. It's always my pleasure to give you feedback because you don't come asking me to just tell you "it's good!"; instead, you're always seeking to make your writing even better.
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Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 12:08 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hello All,

Carey: It's true the video sounds like you. At first I didn't think it was you but then I notice that the camera did not go for any close up so I couldn't see any of the loose skin and wrinkles that I know you got. *eyebrow raised* *LOL* But, then good black don't crack so that could explain it and not any Doris Day camera technique. I loved the suit though. But then you came from the old zoot suit days so you know all about wearing a suit.
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Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 01:20 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hey, good job, Carey! (Both the audition and the piano playing!) What is entailed in this effort you're trying out for? (Sorry if I missed a previous conversation about it.)

At any rate, best of luck. I know you'll keep us informed.
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Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 05:18 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Why do you need help, Carey? I would think that the only requirement to make the cut on a reality to show would be that you are a unique person. Other's can't endow you with this quality. Once other people start telling you how to act, your genuiness is polluted.
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Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 06:53 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hey Carey,

I'm writing book three so I haven't been on here much lately, but I had to come on here and throw up my support for you! The video is GREAT. I love it when you do you! When you do you are at your best!

I hope you get the show. MUCH LOVE!

Me.
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Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 09:41 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Carey..I thought you was an old man..in his 70's
::running to da corna::
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Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 09:52 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hey A_womon,

Be careful what you ask for because you know I will wake you up in the middle of the night and ask you to read something. I am so proud of you. I remember when you first came to the board acting like you didn't have any sense. But ....what about a time called now!

What did you tell me after I wrote some mess and asked you to read it. It was something like "shut up and listen". You and kitty are somewhat alike. She doesn't say shut up she just say something like "you can take it or leave it but this is what I think".

Speaking of shutin' up and listening. Do you remember that storyline you asked me about. If you forgot, let me refresh you memory. Your editor told you to get that mess out of here but you then replied that E. Lynn Harris thought it was a great idea. I was with your editor, i didn't think it had much weight but who am I. Maybe you should have ol'E.Lynn buy all your books and forget about your editor and publisher *lol*.

Thanks for your support. I am still waiting on that first cup of coffee since you said you wouldn't share a room with me :-).
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Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 10:32 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Enjoyed the video!!!!
Certain that your varied life experiences will successfully enrich your literary and/or performance efforts. Hope that you will look within yourself, as you have in the past, not others for directions to your success/survial.
BTW you have posted on TC more than 10 yrs. I started at age 70, now 83, you and Thumper was on board, you as the gatekeeper quized me about Maya Angelou's work.

HI CYNIQUE!!!!
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Posted on Friday, February 27, 2009 - 12:14 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I enjoyed the video too. Seems to me you have the right kinda personality for one of those reality TV shows.
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SESE! It so great to hear from you. I was down in New Orleans last week and I thought about you. I went down to the lower 7th ward. I think it was the 7th. Man, the television doesn't do it justice. I believe I was in the ninth ward as well. I usually try out some of the local food and on this trip I stoped at a chicken shack over by the black catholic church. It seemed to be a very popular spot. The church was an old large cathedral type. It's said to be THE black catholic church. And, I had a poorboy sandwich like nothing I've eaten before. Listen to this; it was made with fried Oysters and fried catfish ...on the same sandwich. Talking about goooooood!

Wow, Sese, it's been a while since you've dropped in. Even back 10 years ago, you wouldn't have a lot to say but when you talked everyone listened. You brought back memories. I remember talking with you on the phone. If I never told you, thanks for the call.

You know I will take your advise very seriously, thanks.
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Posted on Friday, February 27, 2009 - 11:25 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Carey..I haope I dont have bad news to share..have you seen this and is this the one your trying to be a part of..???

Cyrus Webb Back in Business

by Adam Lynch
February 25, 2009

Brandon resident Cyrus Webb has a knack for botching public events. In 2006, Webb—president of Conversations Book Club and the Rankin County Arts Alliance—promised many Jackson metro residents an elegant event presenting Mississippi’s Best Awards. Webb told attendees—who paid $50 per ticket—that the event would include dinner, appearances from notable celebrities such as Morgan Freeman and a fashion event. What he delivered was an evening of disappointment with no celebrities, no food and paltry awards, which Webb printed himself on his personal computer.


Two years later, Webb is promoting a new project: “The Write Stuff: America’s First Literary Reality Show.”

Webb claims that the show will arrange for 14 candidates to compete for a one-book deal with Hollygrove Publishing, as well as 10 CD copies of the winner’s book, “a detailed marketing plan written specifically for the winner by a (as yet unspecified) New York Times bestselling author,” a Dell laptop, and a print and online marketing campaign complete with promotional materials provided by The Risque Cafe.

Webb also promises that the winner will be featured in a host of print and online publications including Conversations Magazine, Crunk Magazine, Hype Magazine and Poetic Monthly.

Webb and talent agent Glenn Toby claim on the reality show’s Web site that the program will air “primarily on select CW networks (as well as some MY Networks and ABC affiliates [sic]) throughout the country, reaching over 20 million households weekly!”

CW’s corporate headquarters in Burbank, Calif., however, claim no connection with the show, with CW spokesman Paul McGuire saying CW “has nothing at all to do with this contest.”

Webb told the Jackson Free Press that the show is a “paid program” that will not be on all CW networks.

“It’s kind of like an infomercial,” Webb said. “When I was on WAPT-16, I would buy a block of time, and you have 28 minutes and 30 seconds. That’s basically how it works, only instead of selling a blender, it will actually be a show. The hours kind of vary by city. In some cities, it will air Sunday mornings. In Jackson, it’s 6:30 to 7 a.m. on Saturday.”

Webb emphasized that “it’s not a show that’s going to be on every channel at CW, just on the markets listed on the site.”

But the markets listed on the Web site are shrinking even as Webb touts them. Last week, the site listed CW’s Jackson affiliate CW 34 WRBJ as a market, although CW 34 Program Manager Keith Smith said the broadcasting company had never agreed to air it.

“Apparently what happened was Webb was trying to negotiate buying some time from us, but it never happened. We’re not going to be running his show,” Smith said. “I talked to our corporate person who handles that, and she said there were some problems with what they were trying to do, so we’re not running that.”

Smith would not elaborate on the problems.

The Web site removed CW 34 last week, but still lists CW 69 in Atlanta among the many markets. CW 69 Vice President Tom Canedo claims the show is not scheduled.

“We were only aware of the show because the network brought it to our attention, and I made sure we didn’t have it scheduled. If it were to come to our attention, we probably wouldn’t air it because we believe it’s produced without our approval,” Canedo said. “In fact, we’ve actually contacted the network in an attempt to take the CW association off its flyers and what-not.”

When the JFP showed Canedo the “Write Stuff” Web site still listing CW 69 on Feb. 19, he said, “(Webb) needs to get that off of there.”

Webb countered claims of his shrinking market with arguments that the show will also be featured on YouTube.

Former JFP Managing Editor Brian Johnson addressed Webb’s ability to mismanage events in 2006, pointing out that “nearly two months after the Mississippi’s Best Awards turned into a debacle, with promised entertainment and food undelivered, event organizer Cyrus Webb has yet to repay debts related to the event and has offered shifting accounts of finances.”

Marilyn Moering, the executive director of the non-profit Building Bridges Inc., said the news hadn’t changed in more than two years. Moering was on the Mississippi Best Awards planning committee and had loaned Webb $3,800 hours before the event in hopes that Webb would finally rent the facility housing it. (Webb had failed to rent the TelCom Center until the last hour).

Webb had assured Moering—who had not been planning to finance the rental—that he would soon repay her.

“I’ve had to pray a lot,” Moering told the JFP. “Some of the things he did were done on purpose. Everything didn’t hit the fan until we got there that night.”

Webb confirmed that he had not paid Moering her money: “I definitely want to pay her back, but at the time I don’t have the money, and I’m not bringing in a lot of money from these other projects,” he said, and denied that the Mississippi Best event was a scam.

“People perceive that I make everything about me, but it’s not about me. I’m not sitting on all this money,” he said. “It was something that financially was trouble.”

Webb promised a dinner that Saturday. He had already canceled a fashion event the day before—without telling either the planning committee or the public—and he kept his poker face intact and unreadable as late as Friday afternoon.

On Saturday, Webb still hadn’t booked a dining room or hired caterers, eradicating any chance of food at the event, even though he had published menus promising smoked salmon and apricot pork loin, among other dishes. The awards themselves were paltry, with Webb printing out certificates on his personal computer with frames bought from Office Depot.

Promised entertainers such as Freeman, Mysterious from the TV show “Making the Band,” Terrence J and Rosci, who host BET’s hit show “106 & Park,” and a contributor to OutKast’s single “Morris Brown,” never made it because Webb had neglected to book them.

An event that Webb initially claimed to have generated $6,080 from 175 tickets in November became, in December, a 109-ticket event generating $3,805—with $5,534 in expenses. (Webb claimed $2,000 of the original $6,080 as income on receipts to the planning committee.)

“I’m trying to find him and get my hands on him actually, but he doesn’t make himself available,” said hip-hop artist and developer Brad “Kamikaze” Franklin, speaking on the event that also featured him. “You can’t catch him. You can’t find him. He’s some type of slippery little worm. He owes several people money and continues to invest under the auspices of poetry or hip-hop events. The Rankin County Arts Alliance is the vehicle for him to do his thing these days, but nothing he’s ever done was legit.”

Rankin County validates Webb in more than one way. The Rankin-Ledger, an enterprise owned by statewide newspaper The Clarion-Ledger, continues to feature Webb as a guest columnist, publishing columns as late as Jan. 17, despite the fact that The Clarion-Ledger wrote on the Mississippi’s Best fiasco in 2006.

It was not the only financially troubled event in which Webb participated.

Webb also organized a 2005 talent contest featuring local rap artist Lil’ Shane, who supposedly won $2,000. Webb promised Shane that he would get his winnings in about a week, along with a meeting with Jackson Mayor Frank Melton. All Lil’ Shane got, however, was another computer printout from Webb’s overworked home printer of an award certificate in a cheap frame.

“It cost us about $30 to register in the contest,” said Lil’ Shane’s father Jeff Roberts. “There were maybe 90 kids involved, and my son was the top winner. Cyrus had little books that he gave us to go out and get sponsors to buy. And we went out and sold $600 worth of sponsorships. The sponsors were supposed to get one of those books, and they never got that. Then he sold tickets for $7. He was supposed to feed everybody, all those kids, but there wasn’t any food. There wasn’t anything. There was even this doctor who stood up and gave $400—$100 for each winner. Cyrus didn’t give us any of that.”

Webb’s version claims the doctor—whom neither Roberts nor Webb could name—donated $200, and that the donor had intended to donate the money “toward the contest.”

“He did not specify it to go to the winners. It was supposed to go toward the project,” Webb said. “Look, the Lil’ Shane project, that hurt me, too, because there was no money made, and a lot of that, honestly, came from poor planning. It was not a fraudulent thing. As far as the $600 in sponsor money, that’s not true. I can understand why he’s upset with the way it turned out, but the money they made was not anywhere near what they’re saying it was.”

Webb said local stations would charge $600 a month, about $150 per week, to air “The Write Stuff,” prior to Smith shutting down the Jackson show. Webb admitted, however, that “there’s no way I could afford that on my own,” and has enlisted outside help to pay for it.

“The executive producer helping with Jackson is out of Atlanta. His name is Glenn Toby. He’s helping offset the cost, and is helping with the production,” Webb said.

The appearance of Toby presents a new facet to the issue, according to Wendy Day, founder of Rap Coalition, a non-profit created to protect artists from exploitation in the music industry.

Day says she helped pull Kamikaze and his former partner, Jackson rapper David Banner, out of “a predatory contract” with Toby almost 10 years ago.

“I remember that contract,” Day said. “(Toby) took 50 percent of their income as a production company, another 20 percent as a manager, and 100 percent of the publishing, which is the actual ownership of the music, so every time the music was used in a soundtrack or something he got paid, not them. Now you see why I remember this so well, even though it was 10 years ago.”

There are four ways to get out of a rotten contract: appeal to the contractor’s sense of righteousness by showing them the shadiness of the deal and hope they feel guilty enough to surrender the contract; find a breach in the contract and take it to court—though most music artists can’t afford that option; wait for the contract to expire in about seven years (about twice the career lifespan of most rappers); or buy yourself out of the contract. Toby apparently wasn’t open to the first option, according to Day.

“I recall we paid him $20,000. He was probably afraid I was going to make more trouble than it was worth.Ҕ

Kamikaze claims he and Banner lost thousands of dollars under Toby’s guidance, and Day has little regard for the man: “I’ve never heard anything good about him,” she said. “My personal experience with him regarding (Kamikaze and Banner) is that he’s somebody extremely shady and unconscionable who I wouldn’t do business with.”

Day also says Toby is not a major figure in the entertainment industry: “His name just doesn’t come up very much. He’s sort of a non-entity,” she said. “And when his name has come up it’s always been negative—but here’s what weird to me: When his name comes up it always keeps coming up out of Jackson, Miss. Why does he always keep going to the same spot to rape people?”

Toby could not be reached for comment.

Katy, Texas, contestant Geremy Howard, who is confirmed for Season 1 of “Write Stuff” initially said the show’s promoters had instructed contestants to refer all media calls to Webb, but then called back after Webb granted him permission to talk.

Howard offered scant details about the show or what it required of him.

“We know it starts in June. We don’t know anything beyond that. They haven’t given us much. I saw a newspaper article. They asked me to write about myself, and I read it in front of a panel of judges, and they made a decision based upon my essay and my personality,” he said. “I have no idea what I’m getting into, but I’m excited.

http://www.jacksonfreepress.com/index.php/site/comments/cyrus_webb_back_in_busin ess_022509/
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Posted on Friday, February 27, 2009 - 11:27 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I watched The Reader and it is good but very slow
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Posted on Friday, February 27, 2009 - 03:44 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sheeze, Carey, would you buy a used car from this guy? If he asks for a down payment on your dreams, get your hat.
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Posted on Friday, February 27, 2009 - 03:46 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi SeSe! Good to hear from you! :-)
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The glass is half full, the car is running and I am in it. I didn't put any money in the gas tank and my dreams will not be stolen if the car runs out of gas. I have several hats and several dreams. This is great, I couldn't write a better story!
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Umm Carey..you didnt read the article. Go read some of the comments (in the link) from people who have had dealings with this person. Listen to Cynique
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Posted on Friday, February 27, 2009 - 04:44 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I did read the article and others that were sent to me by other concerned individuals. But if each of you would stop for a second ...take a breath ...and then try to understand my position. I want you to be honest and open and list "my" worst case situation. Can this adventure steal a dream? Can I lose more than I gain? Will I be less of a man for seeing it to the end? Will I learn from this journey?

Of course one could be totally cynical and reply in a flippant and ambiguous manner, but really, what do I have to lose that outweighs the rewards of the journey. I did list a few and I am open to others that might swing the pentulum in the other direction.

I am working with you, work with me.
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Posted on Friday, February 27, 2009 - 04:49 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Do I have any friends up in here that might understand my position but would not necessarily take the road that I am considering staying on?

Help me to understand and/or maybe support my decision to ride this out.
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Posted on Friday, February 27, 2009 - 05:54 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Carey:

I try not to offer unsolicited opinions, and I can't say what I would do if were you...I can only say what I would do if it were me...and since you asked:

My time is limited. As a freelancer, every day I have to gauge, as best as I can, if a given project is or will be worth my time and effort. As you know, some things pay immediate dividends, others longer term; some pay cash dividends; others pay in terms of experience, connections, stepping stones, and other resources.

So...if it were me, I'd gauge this opportunity accordingly. Does time spent on it take away from time spent on something that may be more of a sure or useful thing?

Then we have the issue of the producer's reputation, etc. By nature, I'm a rather risk-averse person (Vegas HATES me); I am not a gambler. (Now some would say freelance writing is a tremendous gamble, but that's about as much risk as I can handle, and you can believe I have my eggs in more than one basket, e.g., teaching and public speaking. But I digress...) This producer represents a greater risk--based on these reports--than I'd be willing to take.

But...if your cost-benefit analysis tips the scales in favor of this opportunity, then go for it. If you think the potential reward is worth the risk/gamble, then go for it.

If not...move on to the next opportunity.

Earlier, you wrote something that, if I had to sum it up, I'd say you described yourself as having a "ride or die" mentality. You also wrote about being a friend. I have to admit, I'm surprised that you would apply those admirable qualities to someone whom (based on my admittedly limited knowledge) you barely know, and who seems to have some shadiness in his character. Yes, we all fall short, but some of us make it a habit, and unrepentantly so.

Not everyone is deserving of your loyalty, your friendship, or your trust. Choose wisely. Loyalty is great, but misplaced loyalty is folly. There's nothing wrong with falling down on one's face; we learn from our mistakes. But there is something also to be said for being discerning and steering clear of folly when you can avoid it, because of course making mistakes isn't the only way to learn. There's a time to take chances, and a time to play it safe. If it were me, I would play this one safe.

At the end of the day, you have to live with your decision--not any of us here. So be at peace, whatever you decide.
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Posted on Friday, February 27, 2009 - 05:57 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Will I learn from this journey?

You don't have to continue on for this to have been a learning experience. As you told me, the writing you did for the audition was a real breakthrough for you, for example.

Sometimes, you have to get what you need, get what you can from an experience...and then get the h*ll out. But again, only you can decide when it's time for *you* to get the hell out.
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Posted on Friday, February 27, 2009 - 07:11 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks Kitty,

I think this is were I am at.

Kitty wrote: But...if your cost-benefit analysis tips the scales in favor of this opportunity, then go for it. If you think the potential reward is worth the risk/gamble, then go for it.

You also stated something about loyalty. That gave me reason to pause. Like any contract, verbal or binding, there's generally something that can void that contract. The same can be said about relationships/friendships. If you and I went to the alter and exchanged vows and then later it was found that one of us misrepresented ourself, it would be reason to get out of the marriage. I am saying this because I do value loyalty and the such but when I came into this endeavor I did not or was not comfronted with these latest issues, therefore loyalty and friendship shouldn't be part of my decision making process, just as you pointed out.

If I refer back to your earlier post and the advise of Sese ( a wise person of many years) I think I will be comfortable with my decision.

Besides, this could be a moot point. I have only auditioned.

I think my heart says to give the man the benefit of doubt and a chance to prove others wrong ...one mo' time. I have to throw this into the equation. Is there good in the man? Is there a posiblity that all the stories are not true or at least slanted?

Kitty, you are privy to major parts of my life and therefore might be able to understand why I feel this way.

Thanks for your insight and your honest opinion.

Btw, I have invited him to the board. I just talked with him on the phone yesterday. One of the articles said something about him not being accesible. I've always been able to get ahold of him.
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Posted on Friday, February 27, 2009 - 07:41 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kitty, you are privy to major parts of my life and therefore might be able to understand why I feel this way.

Yes. I did think about that Carey, and I understand...as much as I can.

Thanks for your insight and your honest opinion.

You're welcome.

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